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Is mathematics the language of god?

>> No.17735832

>>17735830
>God
>Language
Try again

>> No.17735834

>>17735830
Yes. Allah used math to create the universe.

>> No.17735843

>>17735832
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

>> No.17735848

>>17735830
>Is mathematics the language of god?
it's the language of the religious people called the atheists

>> No.17735852

>>17735848
>it's the language of the religious people called the atheists
Atheists BTFO

>> No.17735856

Math is something humans came up with to explain natural phenomena, and then they went from there. There is nothing divine about math, it is entirely man-made.

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17735860

It's the godliest language.

>> No.17735862

>>17735856
damn look at this guy, he's solved everything

>> No.17735864

>>17735830
No it's Polish

>> No.17735869

>>17735862
I just replied to OP's question.

>> No.17735871

>>17735856
why is it so effective though?

>> No.17735874

>>17735856
But why does something that entirely exists in the mind correlate so well to reality? Something purely abstract.

>> No.17735876

>>17735871
That is a silly question to ask. Why is human language effective? I see objects. I name them, for example, a hand and a ball. I describe the action, for example, a hand threw the ball. Would you then ask why is human language effective at throwing the ball?

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>>17735876

>> No.17735884

>>17735881
Go fuck yourself

>> No.17735889

>>17735871
>>17735874
Because we spent millenia working on it, and it still has kinks and edges that need to be figured out. Of course it is a tool with many applications, but it is still just a tool. It doesn't create anything.

>> No.17735915

>>17735881
>>17735884
I apologize for the foul language, anon

>> No.17735938

>>17735830
If it's the language God why is it so boring?

>> No.17735939

>>17735915
i forgive u

>> No.17735940

>>17735938
>If it's the language God why is it so boring?
kek atheists on suicide watch

>> No.17735944

>>17735874
>he thinks reality and mind are separate
oh no no no

>> No.17735951

>>17735830
>Math
satanic garbage/poison. read the bible now

>> No.17735979

>>17735843
We're talking about God above God.

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>>17735830
The god of retards mayb

>> No.17735996

>>17735979
Allah? Why didn't you say so.

>> No.17736019

>>17735985
kek

>> No.17736051

>>17735830
Yes

>> No.17736062

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>> No.17736065

>>17736062
This.

>> No.17736067
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>>17736062

>> No.17736075

>>17736062
Needs more *smirk* *sniff* and so on and so forth

>> No.17736127

>>17735860
but Fourier series are literally the most unnatural and most man-made part of mathematics.

>> No.17736148

>>17735985
>Hello I would like f(z) = √z apples please
That doesn't even make sense.

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>>17736062
>big bang sentimentality
You mean big time sensuality?

>> No.17736193

>>17736067
?????????????

>> No.17736209

>>17736193
it gets even more unintelligible when you learn the context.

>> No.17736220 [DELETED] 

>>17735856
I'm study math and I agree.

>> No.17736224

>>17736209
Please enlighten me.

>> No.17736238

>>17736220
>I'm study math
Checks out.

>> No.17736240

>>17736224
>woman on the background attacks the man on the background
>they call the police
>police starts beating the man on the background while my boy dances

>> No.17736399

>>17736148
Yeah, math is fucking stupid.

>> No.17736400

>>17736238
kek

>> No.17736436

>>17735874
Reality exists in the mind.

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>>17735830
Why should I take anyone that looks like these guys seriously?

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>>17736459
I could kill all of them with one punch. Clearly math is a joke.

>> No.17736932

>>17736459
>some of the brightest minds on the planet
>wears anime t-shirt

>> No.17736938

>>17736062
A lotta words to say stuff is happening beyond current human cognition and no one cares.

>> No.17736941

>>17736938
t.fun at parties

>> No.17736951

>>17736941
What’s there to celebrate?

>> No.17737018

Nah, simple as

>> No.17737042

>>17735871
>why is the language designed specifically to be compatible with how we understand the world so effective?

>> No.17737087

>>17736459
is that nekopara?

>> No.17737100

>>17735830
It is the thoughts of God. It IS God

>> No.17737229

>>17735848
retard


"The laws of nature are but the mathematical thoughts of God" - Euclid

>> No.17737235

>>17735856
complete idiot, hopeless and worthless

>> No.17737299

>>17735874
>>17735871
>>17735889
There's plenty of math out there that doesn't describe reality at all. For example, we can construct models of 4D Euclidean Space, but we don't live in 4D Euclidean Space.

The reason math describes some things well is because people looked at things and came up with math to describe them.

>> No.17737341

>>17737299
But the way math calculates that is just an extension of how it applies to reality. A hammer was designed to hammer in a nail, but if you use enough force a hammer can also smash a rock. It just means math is internally consistent.

>> No.17737366

>>17737100
>calling your own brain god

>> No.17737371

>>17735834
SPBP

>> No.17737372

>>17737299

I think another way to put it is math represents something about how we relate to the world. Math is abstract quantities being manipulated through operations. Those quantities are empty vessels, “1” can be an apple or a death or a gallon of fuel. We relate to reality or exist in it by compartmentalizing it into objects, discrete forms of being. So we abstracted that into the pure, empty vessel of quantity. Operations represent how we perceive relationships between objects, they can be added to (like adding a gallon of fuel to another gallon of fuel), they can be divided etc.

Math is in some way immanent to our experience of reality. I imagine it has a level of objectivity as a phenomenon in the sense that other intelligent life out there likely also uses similar mathematics because it has a similar relationship to reality.

>> No.17737466

>>17737341
Certainly. I'm just referring to the whole
>why does math describe reality so well
thing. There's plenty of math that doesn't describe reality. It too is internally consistent, it just doesn't have meaning (you can have 0-52i apples, after all).

>>17737372
I would agree. "Math" is a language used to describe certain types of relations of existence. It's not that the universe operates off of math, but rather math is a means of describing certain facets of the universe, just as poetry or various other systems are. The facets of the universe that math (as a language) describes are just far more fundamental than others.

>> No.17737470

>>17735871
>>17735874
Maths doesn't correlate well at all with ''reality''
-both by facts, ie observation. That's because all the experiences run by humans are imperfectly described by maths and even mathematicians have tried to create maths just about intervals, because that's what is being measured

-and theoretically, maths has the language of nature doesn't make any sense because you have to wonder then where the fuck does the axioms and rules of inference live of whatever logic you choose to work in, since they are not inside matter and plenty of maths and logical rules are not found in nature

>> No.17738029

>>17735856
Divinity is entirely man-made too. Natural phenomena are all that there is.

>> No.17738103

>>17735939
and thee is forgaven, inshallah

>> No.17738187

>>17738029
Divinity being man-made is irrelevant to the statement that math is not divine.

>> No.17738235

>>17735830
No. God doesn't exist and math is just a convenient way of expressing logical statements.