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At what point am I allowed to move on from the Greeks to the Russians?

>> No.17725016

>>17725014
In 12 more years.

>> No.17725020

>>17725014
I guess you would have to start with the French.

>> No.17725144

Honestly? Once you have read Plato, Aristotle, Euripides, Aeschlyus, Homer, Ovid, Virgil, Seutonius, Catallus and Cicero.

You should always return to read the rest in due tome, but reading those will give you more than the necessary knowledge to continue on. Could even cut that list a little honestly.

>> No.17725189

>>17725014
You can go read Ward No.6 if you have the main anecdotes of Diogenes the Cynic memorized.

>> No.17725213

>>17725144
>Not reading the plays of Aristophanes
ngmi

>> No.17725323

>>17725014
NEVER

>> No.17725866

>>17725014
To start with study maps, work up to reading place names on maps, then for your first book do Pausanius. See how many places you remember from the maps.
Read the first section of Thucydides for overview of Cimon and Thermistocles.
Work backwards through all of Aristotle and all of Plato
Homer, with a guide, ideally Pope's translation.
Skip Hesiod.
Read Menander thoroughly, read a plot summary of Aristophanes at most.
Avoid Tragedy besides Ion, Cyclops, and The Persians (supplement by NOT reading Herodotus)
Xenophon on hunting with dogs is the broadly accepted end point, unless you plan on learning Linear B and moving onto the pre-Anaxagorids.
Supplement all with a lot of wine.

>> No.17725873

You skipped the French

>> No.17725902

>>17725014
The beginning and the end is Apllonius' Arginautica books 3 and 4, and Euripides Medea. Understand Medea (properly) and you understand it all. And don't think it's about women or gender or feminism or anything, for or against. Assume Medea is a man as you read, but read these two stories about her until she clicks. The chariot at the end of Euripides? That's not a chariot. I'll leave it to you.

>> No.17725903

>>17725014
Have you read the Romans? Aquinas and Augustine? Descartes, Bacon, More, Machiavelli, Hobbes? Your real goal is work up to fully understanding Hegel, which will likely take years of study.

Do not attempt the Russians without at least giving Hegel a try. If you're ignorant of him on a first reading, it will forever spoil them for you.

>> No.17725911

>>17725014
It’s not really worth it. Every one of Dosto’s main characters are autistic.

>> No.17725932

Russian history and the bible are far more important than the Greeks for your purpose

>> No.17725943

>>17725014
you go from the greeks to the romans and then the italians. The russians are much, much further down

>> No.17726280

>>17725902
>Apllonius' Arginautica
this one's really bad, don't even bother

>> No.17726366
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17726366

>>17725866
>avoid Tragedy
>read On Hunting with Dogs