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I don't get it.

>> No.17710293

this and science of logic are nigh undecipherable works, i would suggest a reference companion reader

>> No.17710314

When a tree falls in the woods and nobody is around to hear it, the shit makes a sound, like for sure for sure.

>> No.17710332

>>17710274
everything evolves but in 600 pages

>> No.17711337

>>17710274
subject is substance and the only way you can know that is by making a lot of mistakes first

>> No.17711345

It's amazing this guy had packed lecture halls. Must have been way clearer speaker than writer.

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>>17710274
That was fast.

>> No.17712681

real recognize real

>> No.17712695

>>17710274
hegel uses obscurantism to filter brainlets, pseud status seekers, and nitwits unwilling to engage with serious philosophical material.

>> No.17712818

Hegel describes how consciousness evolves through stages towards reaching a state of absolute truth in relation with spirit. The stages describe consciousness recognition of itself and its relations to other consciousness in the world along with its perception and mediations on that relationship. The dialectics are the movements of evolution towards the absolute. Truth cannot be objective or accessed immediately but is mediated by subjects, self consciousness of beings, the subjective experiences of consciousness, dialectical movements, and relations between consciousness. Consciousness on the basis of its own experiences progressively gains access to the absolute. In order to perceive the self it must perceive others. Reality is not external to consciousness. The dialectics is the interrelationships between reality and subjective experiences.

>> No.17712829

Hegel maintains that knowledge is not separated from, or external to, absolute reality, but that knowledge is itself reality, and that reality is mental and spiritual. For Hegel, reality is rational and logical. Reality is the conceptual totality of absolute mind and spirit. Knowledge reaches its goal when it arrives at the Absolute and when it no longer has to search beyond itself, because in the Absolute it finds itself.

>> No.17712871

what the fuck is spirit, is he implying that soul exists? what a pleb

>> No.17712980

>>17712871
it is the absolute truth of reality and reveals itself in the process of the realization of the final form of human consciousness as it evolves from being to becoming

>> No.17713009

>>17712980
mystical gibberish

>> No.17713059

>>17712871
Spirit is the stage of consciousness where it realizes it is a self-knowing, actual Idea - it is "self-conscious Reason." It is Reason conscious of itself - consciousness which has Reason as its immediate object. Reason is the highest union of consciousness and self-consciousness, or of the knowing of an object and of the knowing of itself.


The Idea is truth in itself and for itself — the absolute unity of the notion and objectivity. The absolute Idea alone is being, imperishable life, self-knowing truth, and is all truth. This last shape of Spirit - the Spirit which at the same time gives its complete and true content in the form of the Self and thereby realizes its Notion as remaining in its Notion in this realization - this is absolute knowing; it is Spirit that knows itself in the shape of Spirit, or a comprehensive knowing.

It should be noted that this occurs at various levels of awareness and clarity. Thus, for instance, Spirit may exist in the mode of self-alienation. It thus exists and is conscious of itself but does not know that that of which it is conscious is itself. The Phenomenology is the appearance of Spirit in human consciousness through its successive stages of clarity until it reaches the stage of Absolute Knowledge wherein it knows that that of which it is conscious is itself.

Hegel says "The product of thinking is the thought; thought is, however, still formal; somewhat more defined it becomes Notion, and finally Idea is Thought in its totality, implicitly and explicitly determined. Thus the Idea, and it alone is Truth. Now it is essentially in the nature of the Idea to develop, and only through development to arrive at comprehension of itself, or to become what it is. That the Idea should have to make itself what it is, seems like a contradiction; it may be said that it is what it is"

>> No.17713232

>>17712871
Spirit is all. Nature, logic, mind, perception, reality, being are all expressions of spirit. In the Phenomenology of Spirit Hegel exhibits consciousness in its movement onwards from the opposition of itself and object to the stage of absolute knowing. The path of this movement goes through every form of the relation of consciousness to the object and has the concept of science (describing the process of self realization) for its result

The Absolute in itself - the subject matter of Logic, Logic is the process of Spirit's self-development (what is implicit and underlying, independent of subjective nature)
The Absolute for itself - the philosophy of Nature (As Spirit appears to itself)
The Absolute in and for itself - the philosophy of Spirit (the realization of both, nature uniting with the nature in itself, what is implicitly possible becomes explicitly existing)
The Absolute truth and Knowledge is self-realization of Spirit

In its most abstract formulation, dialectic is the movement of Reason (Idea) towards Truth (Absolute Knowledge). This is the teleological self-movement of Reason in which that which is posited (thesis) engenders its necessary limitation and negation (antithesis) which is overcome through the development of a new thesis (synthesis) which sublates (overcomes contradictions while preserving essence) the prior moments.

>> No.17713243

>>17710274
you need to be < 80 IQ to get it

>> No.17713263

>>17713059
>>17713232
dude this shit is retarded

>> No.17713292

>>17713263
>>17713243
Filtered and lower stage of consciousness detected

>> No.17713328

>>17713292
anyone taking the time to read this drivel and try to comprehend it demonstrably has a lower iq. even worse if you paid for a philosophy degree. why study these european schizos?

>> No.17713363

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2jtkakoWG4

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>>17713328
>>17713243
>>17713263
>>17713009
I guess you hate mommy gfs

>> No.17713454

>>17713407
this nigga married a monkey lmfao

>> No.17713485

>>17713059
Hegel can sound poetic at times

>> No.17713557

>>17713407
on second thought i'll read his stuff

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>>17713454
this nigga is channeling his Hegelian super powers

>> No.17713640

the reason of the hegel's success in the 19th century is that he created a philosophy:
1. compatible with religion
2. extremely hostile to science
3. fattering the academic humanistic culture (and yet irrelevant to the authors themselves)
4. politically harmless