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17693883 No.17693883 [Reply] [Original]

>Start with the greeks
>Continue with the Romans


But what about Asia?

>> No.17693890

It's part of /lit/'s implicit (or explicit) racism to ignore and overlook authors from Asia and Africa.

>> No.17693893

>>17693890
kinda hard to read stick figures drawn on cave walls with human feces

>> No.17693899
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17693899

>>17693883
Finish with the Asiatics.
The Mandate of Heaven and state capitalism with Chinese characteristics are the final redpill.

>> No.17693902

>>17693893
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_African_writers_by_country

>> No.17693921

Why would you bother with asia if you dont have slant eyes? Theres a reason chinks wear western suits and europeans dont wear silk robes.

>> No.17693926

>>17693883
Start with Vedas.

>> No.17693931

>>17693921
Europeans are poor, we know.

>> No.17693935

>>17693902
wow a list of 20th century hacks look at what anon found on wikipedia! better swap the charts

>> No.17693944

>>17693883
Asia is an optional side quest. Not too great of an XP gain to justify wasting your time.

>> No.17693948

>>17693883
Because you're not Asian first and foremost so it's not relevant to you. One could argue that learning about Egyptians, Sumerians, Muslims etc. is relevant since they did influence the West either directly or indirectly. And there is no reason you shouldn't learn about Indian, Chinese, etc. civilization, it just isn't strictly necessary to understand your own civilization the way learning about Greece and Rome is.

>> No.17693960

>>17693944
I'll just go smurf there after maxing out on the EU server just for fun

>> No.17693963
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17693963

>skipping the hyperboreans

>> No.17693965

>>17693883
You can read the Asian shit, but a major problem is that not so much of it may have been preserved or translated according to geographic barriers initially. Consider that the monastic orders are in large part responsible for why we even still have as much of what we have today, for their efforts in painstakingly retranscribing texts by hand and also into from uncommon tongues into a more common language, and furthermore the transmission of those copies to other monasteries which ensured their continuity in the shadow of barbaric invasions and pillaging that saw repeat instances of localized destruction. Therefore, the actual lists of Chinese ancient writing are not at congested as Western lists. And who's to itemize what exactly was wiped out from all human record during the tumultuous cultural razings that have occurred throughout China's storied history over thousands of years? And how much of their ancient folklore was purely oral and remained ever untranscribed? I consider it a miracle that we even have two works of Homer, by all measures and considerations I don't reasonably feel like anything he performed should have made it to us, yet we still have something. Every ancient text we still have access to is a miracle, and the further away it is from the more miraculous it is. Read what they have but be thankful that there's anything at all.

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>>17693883
People say start with the Greeks when you get into philophosphy. Asian /lit/ has nothing to say about it. You could read Confucius all you want, or sun-zhou, or the I-ching or whatever but it's not gonna help you understand Decartes, Kant, Hegel, and Nietzsche.

>> No.17693986

>>17693963
They clearly skipped the three little piggies.

>> No.17693987

Advance with the Asians

>> No.17693996

>>17693981
No, you start with the Greeks when you get into anything remotely intellectual.

>> No.17694067
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Dumb frogposter, the Start with the Greeks meme is to prepare you for a proper appreciation of the Western Canon. As Greek myth, poetry, theatre, and philosophy are the foundation which the canon is built on, it makes sense to start with them. Asian literature and philosophy only lightly grazed the western Canon and not until the mid 19th century or so, and had little impact. In a word, you don't study the Asians because it will not help or inform your future reading.
Tradcathfags may be surprised to hear this too, but the Bible was originally recommended here for a similar reason as the Greeks--for it's LITERARY value and, above that, influence. It had nothing to do with its religious or theological importance.

>> No.17694094

>>17694067
Which bible(s) are good for literary/historical value? I've seen KJV suggested for it's literary influence, but I've also heard it's translation is lacking in some areas.

>> No.17694133

>>17694094
NTAYRT, but you go with the KJV because it was THE translation in the vast majority of English speaking literature. If you're going to be an autist about historicity, you're better off getting a study Bible with notes, or just getting history books.
No, the KJV isn't theologically perfect, nor is it the entire Biblical canon, but it's the translation that was widely used in the vast majority of Christian denominations from its conception until fairly recently. The only other translation I might recommend is something like the Douay Rheims or the RSVCE so you can be acquainted with the Roman Catholic deuterocanon, but the deuterocanon was of significantly less literary impact afaik.

>> No.17694692

There's just a divide. They are basically two different chronological paths. Maybe switch to Hinduism after you are finished with the Romans, then start with the Upanishads and work your way through there. Then after Hinduism go to Buddhism and after Buddhism to to Taoism, then you are pretty much done with relevent Asian philosophy
>>17693890
You have to go back
1. /lit/ is filled with Westerners so no shit they are more interested in Western philosophy
2. Both Buddhism and Hinduism are highly esteemed here
3. Africa (sub-sahara) has not produced anything significant whatsoever compared to Europe/Asia for obvious reasons