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[Anonymous No.17677579]

So let me get this straight. Successful """communist""" countries were successful because they were actually capitalist countries pretending to be communist?

>China implements free market policies through the 70s
>Per capita income triples over next 20 years
>GDP quadruples in the same period
>Exports see a ten fold increase
>Government declares free market consistent with Marxism

LMAO

[Anonymous No.17677583]

>>17677579
>Government declares free market consistent with Marxism
yeah, this is common knowledge

[Anonymous No.17677584]

[Anonymous No.17677585]

>>17677583
Funny how they declared consistent only the policies that worked. When they failed they called it capitalism.

[Anonymous No.17677592]

you have to be fucking brain dead to think socialism and markets are contradictory

[Anonymous No.17677599]

>free market is consistent with no private property

[Anonymous No.17677605]

>>17677592
controlled economy and free market are *precisely* contradictory lmao

[Anonymous No.17677609]

read how mao died, there was a lot of infighting and the capitalist roaders won

[Anonymous No.17677615]

>>17677579
But you're wrong. China is decidedly socialist. You have to have literally zero knowledge of chinese economy to think it is capitalist. It's effectively a contract between China and a given western company.

[Anonymous No.17677620]

>>17677605
The concept of a free market might be contradictory to a controlled one, but in practice a free market requires a ton of market intervention and government investment.

Do you think a private company would ever build a power grid? Lol.

[Anonymous No.17677624]

>>17677579
Marxism is an analytical science and is completely consistent with market economics. “Communism” and “socialism” were always just political aesthetics or secular religions that technically don’t even exist or have never really been implemented according to actual Marxism. China was smart to move on from experimenting with dogma and just functioning as a normal country albeit with a Marxist view of political economy and development

[Anonymous No.17677629]

> you have to be fucking brain dead to think socialism and markets are contradictory
>oh actually they are contradictory h-haha but western social democracies don't actually have free markets therefore um privace companies would never build a power grid!

[Anonymous No.17677634]

>>17677624
Posts like this are the purest cope. I am a Marxist and there's literally no way to justify what China is doing as consistent with Marxism, even Lenin's NEP, which is the origin of Dengism, he acknowledged was a reactionary and capitalist policy.

If Lenin can acknowledge that the NEP was a step back, then the CCP should aswell, if they can't they are deliberately engaging in propaganda or self-deception, I don't care which.

[Anonymous No.17677639]

ITT: Marxist cope

[Anonymous No.17677653]

>>17677583
Anon you should try reading a book one day

[Anonymous No.17677660]

>>17677634
How many millions need to die before you stop hating your parents and get the fuck over Marxism?

[Anonymous No.17677664]

>>17677634
It’s Marxist, I didn’t say it was socialist or anything. Marxist as in China believes it needs to meet the prerequisites of capitalist development in order to transition to socialism using Marxist dogma as its justification. Does this mean China is actually going to be socialist by 2050? No, I don’t think anyone is even expecting that to happen, but that’s what the country claims and it still clearly uses Marxism as its basis albeit where they likely won’t deliver what they promise. Not like it matters since again most of this boils town to political aesthetics and branding

[Anonymous No.17677670]

>>17677660
>How many millions need to die
If you really think about it......

[Anonymous No.17677675]

>>17677624
>Marxism is an analytical science
bait

[Anonymous No.17677677]

ITT: flumpflets and midwits
Xi is hardcore socialist.

[Anonymous No.17677683]

>>17677677
The Chinese economic model more closely resembles NatSoc Germany than the Soviet Union.

[Anonymous No.17677684]

>>17677677
>Xi is hardcore socialist.
Show me some evidence

[Anonymous No.17677688]

>>17677624
>Marxism is an analytical science

[Anonymous No.17677695]

[Anonymous No.17677714]

>>17677695
Based