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Has anyone got experience teaching high school? I stupidly went for a PhD in Eng Lit and there are literally no academic jobs unless I want to move across the country for a terribly paid 9 month contract. However with my qualification I could go for some of the better private/independent schools, better pay, holidays, etc. Don't really know what else I'd do since I don't want to leave England.

>> No.17675135

I can’t help you. I’ve been interested in teaching but I don’t have a PhD and teaching America’s public school system looks like absolute hell.

>> No.17675455

>>17675011
anon do not become a highschool teacher with a PhD

>> No.17675469

>>17675011
Private high school maybe?

>> No.17675487

>>17675455
What else is he supposed to do if he can’t get a faculty job?

>> No.17675501

>>17675469
This is the correct answer. Try to get a job in a very rich, uppity private prep school.

>> No.17675544

>>17675455
Why not? Community college is another option.

>>17675501
Is that possible?

>> No.17675559

I teach in a high school. AMA

>> No.17675609

>>17675011
>across the country
How long of a drive is that

>> No.17675615

>>17675609
And yes I know you would have to move but like how far

>> No.17675710

>>17675544
>community college
Enjoy being an adjunct professor. Regular uni is also that bad.

>> No.17675739

>>17675710
Don't community colleges hire on a full time basis since you're basically just a teacher? Why would you be an adjunct

>>17675559
How do you resist the ptp

>> No.17675754

>>17675011
Cant believe Im in a timeline where people with PHDs have to consider working in high schools. That is just wild. I can only imagine the qualifications that are going to be needed in the future.

>> No.17675761

>>17675739
prime teen pussy

>> No.17675848

my teacher in high school had a phd, he was a lazy pleb

>> No.17675868

>>17675739
I go to a cc, and many of my professors are adjunct.
>>17675754
It's probably because public education pays more because you have a guaranteed full time teaching position. Also, I think you only need a masters in education to tech hs. If you need extra cash, you can always be a private tutor.

>> No.17675932

>>17675011
Get QTS
then work in an international school, maybe?

>> No.17677043
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17677043

Anyone who cannot grasp why a PhD is in this position should skim these articles:

https://www.theatlantic.com/education/archive/2016/04/bad-job-market-phds/479205/

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/05/upshot/academic-job-crisis-phd.html

https://newrepublic.com/article/123334/vanished-world-stoner

A miniscule number - less than 10 percent (!!!) - of PhD grads land tenure track jobs. The number able to land any academic jobs at all is barely higher. These prospects are particularly dire in the humanities, where an opening for a contracted, short-term, $28k adjunct position attracts over a thousand applications.

OP, I pity you, but you really should have done your research first. By all means go for a prestigious private/independent school as you mentioned. In the UK you can go for a PGCE, and do a lead practitioner certification which really boosts your salary up to £50k+ a year. Becoming a headteacher can see you on over £100k. But you could have done all that with just a Masters, and 4 years earlier. Best of luck.

>> No.17677091

>>17675469
>>17675501
Yeah that's what I'm considering. Still doesn't pay. A great amount, but if I wanted money I should've taken up the law school offer when I finished my undergrad. This is where following your passion gets you, folks. This is from a top 10 uni in the UK, too.

>>17675609
>>17675615
Like 5 or 6 hours. Not commutable and there's no way I'm moving for a 9 month long position that never gets renewed because it costs the university less money to keep it that way. Everything is done by adjuncts and junior lecturers being paid unironically less than supermarket workers. My friend worked at tesco during Summers on 24k and has just taken an adjunct position at a university for 23k. Another friend is going into journalism and never wants to include 'Dr' next to their name out of shame.

Only three of our cohort got half decent academia jobs, two are in other countries (Hong Kong and Dubai, also not options for me) and the other did research on feminist theory. The memes are real, feminist/LGBTQ/postcolonial etc is all the rage and top academia spots want someone who's specialised in a 'woke' area.

>> No.17677118

>>17675011
I taught Mathematics in high school for one year before getting a PhD. Shoot away

>> No.17677130

>>17675011

teaching adolescents is bound to get even worse than it already was simply by the natural browning of the population..

>> No.17677140

>>17675868>>17675011

>>17675754
No. it's because secular humanists dont understand supply and demand, so when they decided that even the peasants should get diplomas so far reserved only the upper class, they devalued the diplomas and now they are worthless because everybody has one.

>> No.17677204

>>17675011
I know a high school teacher. Unless you went to a great teaching program and have connections they'll likely stick you in the jobs nobody wants - the shithole schools where success is keeping a sliver of order in the classroom rather than facilitating any learning. It's a bitchy, backstabbing environment where everybody who doesn't want to be a glorified social worker is doing everything they can to switch to a better school, and so on until you reach the 'good' schools, where the parents make your life a living nightmare.

High school is a daycare.

>> No.17677220

>>17677091
If you were actually passionate about it you would do it despite the shitty pay and having to move across the country for it. It sounds like you made the decision to go for an academic career on a whim. I can't imagine how anyone can even do that, especially since every single professor I came in contact with told me not to do it.