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What historical figure embodied the concept of the philosopher-king the most?

>> No.17672029

plebs will say aurelius even when what he wrote barely constitutes a coherent philosophy and not just vapid self-help.

>> No.17672082

>>17672029
Well meditations is an influential work in the genre of self help and philosophy, and his reign as emperor was pretty decent.

>> No.17672187

>>17672011
Adolf Hitler
If you don't get why, then you're a newfag

>> No.17672211
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17672211

Charlemagne. On top of being a successful leader in war, he cultivated education and knowledge by bringing together the best scholars in Europe and creating a scribe factory to preserve the writings of antiquity.

>> No.17672220

Cant exist externally. The Philosopher-king is a purely internal phenomenon of the Will. To be a philosopher-king is to reign over oneself, the empire of the soul, and live life virtuously.

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>> No.17672274

>>17672011
Lenin

>> No.17672277
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>>17672211
based Carolingian Renaissance poster

>> No.17672302

>>17672011
>“Philosopher, orator, apostle, legislator, warrior, conqueror of ideas, restorer of rational dogmas, of a cult without images, the founder of twenty terrestrial empires and of one spiritual empire: that is MUHAMMAD. As regards all the standards by which human greatness may be measured, we may well ask IS THERE ANY MAN GREATER THAN HE?”
― Alphonse de Lamartine
Muhammad pbuh, of course

>> No.17672339

>>17672187
>had one ball
>started a war he couldn’t win
>took the cowards way out

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>>17672302
This
But I would also add some later absolutists like Al Ma'mun, Al-Rashid, Timur, Suleiman the Magnificent etc

In Europe: there is no greater Philosopher King than Der Alte Fritz

>> No.17672404

>>17672011
Dionysius of Syracuse even if Plato himself disagreed.

>> No.17672443

>>17672029
Meditations were never meant to be read by anyone else other than Aurelius, it was just his personal journal. And Plato's concept of the philosopher king wasn't necessarily a guy who wrote philosophy in his free time, but a wise king who was capable of making sound moral judgements, applying philosophy to his rule in a practical manner.

>> No.17672469

>>17672339
you don't know how to die

>> No.17672550

>>17672469
How? Killing yourself in a bunker after leading your country to a humiliating defeat ?

>> No.17672706

>>17672011
Friedrich II Der Große
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2AJoLXPtkHI

>> No.17672713

>>17672011
Trump

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>>17672211
>an ingenious military strategist, a wise but ruthless leader, a cunning politician, and a devout believer who ensured the survival of Christianity in the West.
>also believed himself above the rules of the church, siring bastards across Europe and coldly ordering the execution of 4,500 prisoners.
Nice.

>> No.17672778

>>17672713
This but unironically. He created his own philosophy (Trumpism).

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>>17672011
Obviously Hitler.

You can disagree with and dislike him, but no leader has held such an intimate relation to the thought of his people before.

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>>17672011
Only one correct answer

>> No.17672954

Mao Zedong or Lenin unironically

>> No.17672991

>>17672211
he was barely literate lmao

>> No.17673268

>>17672953
Based

>> No.17673311

>>17672931
Right. Killing off your own citizens based on the religion their practice is really 'in touch'. Please explain further I need a laugh.

>> No.17673327
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17673327

Unironically Barack Obama

>> No.17673347

>>17672269
Based. I heard that the people of Libya liked him more than the MSM, especially because of his generous welfare schemes.

>> No.17673447

>>17672011
me

>> No.17673468

>>17673311
>jews
>citizens
LOL. Didn't happen anyway.

>> No.17673470

Louis XIV

>> No.17673478

>>17672931
Hitler was a brainlet though. He made several bad decisions that cost him the war and Mein Kampf isn't particularly well written.

>> No.17673499

>>17672029
He didn't intend it to be read though

>> No.17673529

>>17673499
He was just being a tsundere

>> No.17673577

>>17673478
>AcSCHUALLY, I would have won WW2!
LMAO.

>and Mein Kampf isn't particularly well written.
That's because its value is in fact defined by it being his real life. It is his story, and that is where its value comes from, it's not meant to be a great literary work.

>> No.17673595

>>17673447
This guy

>> No.17673664

>>17672011
Frederick the Great

>> No.17673668

>>17673664
This.

>> No.17673739

>>17672953
this

>> No.17673744

Napoleon

>> No.17673761

>>17672011
Stalin

>> No.17673810

>>17673577
Do people still unironically idolise Hitler in the year of our Lord Two Thousand and Twenty One?