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Why did he hate living?

>> No.17657383

>>17657376
This is /lit/, to start a thread post about a specific work.
Else go to /his/.

>> No.17657430

>>17657376
are you a tard?

>> No.17657447

he loved living

>> No.17657558

>>17657376
the curse of the 120 IQ bugman

>> No.17657707

>>17657376
he was rejected by his oneitis

>> No.17657759

>>17657376
He loved life. Read his books retard

>> No.17657809

>>17657759
>He loved life.
No, he loved the idea of loving life.

>> No.17657815

>>17657376
Whom?

>> No.17657819

>>17657376
He wish he was a heroic prince-soldier-artist of the Renaissance, free of all resentment morality, and he was a philologist with poor eyesight. He was nevertheless great.

>> No.17657824

>spend your life writing great books and live on the riviera in France and Italy
>hate living

lul

>> No.17657840

>>17657809
you're an idiot

>> No.17657843

>>17657840
its true tho.

>> No.17657846

>DUDE SUFFERING IS GREAT BECAUSE IT MEANS YOU CAN ENDURE IT!
>Why yes, I do have an easy life how could you tell?

>> No.17657857

>>17657846
Kill yourself if your life is so hard
Or become a buddhist if you're really that much of a pussy

>> No.17657864

>>17657376
For the same reason everyone else does.

>> No.17657874

>>17657376
he was a beta

>> No.17657894

>>17657874
and he knew it

>> No.17657914

>>17657846
Back plebbit, crybaby snowflake.
Suffering is a transcendental experience for the human spirit.
Praise Junger.

>> No.17657923

>>17657914
>Suffering is a transcendental experience for the human spirit.
Which philosophers wrote about this aside from Nietzsche?

>> No.17657936

>>17657923
Bataille

>> No.17657984

>>17657846
How did Nietzsche have an "easy life" and how does that even negate his philosophy as you imply you wretched imbecile?

>> No.17658002

>>17657923
As I said, Junger. Also Schopenhauer talks about this in a way. Also Kierkegaard creates a framework with the same logical conclusions, even if he doesn't say so explicitly.
Also, Jung's book on the book of job is a nice read.

>> No.17658003

ITT: Teenagers who never lived a tough life

>> No.17658008

>>17658003
I already told you to fuck off, snowflake.

>> No.17658013

>>17658002
>all people with easy lives

>> No.17658022

>>17658013
>NOOOOOO YOU CANT TALK ABOUT RACE, YOU ARE A STRAIGHT WHITE MALE
>NOOOOOO YOU CANT TALK ABOUT SUFFERING, CHECK YOUR PRIVELLEGE
Commit suicide

>> No.17658029

>>17658022
>DUDE SUFFERING IS GREAT EVEN THOUGH I NEVER HAD TO FACE REAL SUFFERING!!

>> No.17658034

>>17658029
Fucking kill yourself if you're soooooffering so much you obnoxious nigger

>> No.17658037

>>17658029
Define real suffering or genuinely consider killing yourself

>> No.17658042

>>17658029
>grew up in a house of women
>had health problems since childhood
Oh he wasn't a born a nigger in the Deep South so I guess he didn't really suffer.

>> No.17658043

>>17658029
Seriously, you won't have fun here. I am not even joking, it is for your own good. Go back.

>> No.17658054

>>17658042
He probably thinks if you didn't get Furuta'd you never truly suffered

>> No.17658669

>>17658029
I bet you're one of those type of people that always lwoer the suffering bar to the point you can only complain if you're a disabled North Korean Slave that is brutally raped and beaten up every week

>> No.17658697

He was actually depressed but Nietzsche fags are too dumb to know, modern academics are hopeless, and I cba to put in any effort to explain to a bunch of low IQ retards

>> No.17658714

>>17657376
You may literally be retarded

>> No.17658717

>>17657923
>Suffering is actually good
Imagine being such a psychopath you justify all horrific regimes in history which have inflicted immeasurable pain and suffering and relabel them as epochs of great spiritual transcendence. Amazing anyone takes this drivel seriously.

>> No.17658724

>>17658717
Still better than being a buddhist lmfao
Seethe harder loser

>> No.17658731

>>17658717
Buddhists have no soul, kys

>> No.17658734

>>17658717
>all horrific regimes in history
Go back you retard

>> No.17658737

Bro, he was poor, basically blind, had migraines, horrible stomach issues, nervous breakdowns, and a syphilis-ridden brain that eventually drove him to insanity. His life was miserable.

>> No.17658736

>>17658731
This isn't even an insult to them kek
Truly the bugman religion

>> No.17658741

>>17657376
Migraines and stomach aches.

>> No.17658751

>>17658737
>tfw I'm poor, have chronic pain and digestive issues, am extremely neurotic and have no meaningful social contact of any kind yet I still truly enjoy being alive
Honestly I don't get how people like >>17657846 exist. Life is beautiful

>> No.17658761

>>17658751
>oh boy I wish I was suffering more because then I would be enduring more!
this is your brain on Nietzsche

>> No.17658770

>>17658724
>>17658731
It's okay friends, I recognize your replies come from the place you are on your journey. I hope you find peace.
>>17658734
Ah yes, from North Korea to the communist USSR to the thriving slave trades of past centuries, they have all been in service of the great spiritual transcendence of those lucky souls who got so much wonderful suffering. If only we were all so fortunate to live such spiritually uplifting lives.

>> No.17658771

>>17658761
Why do you seethe so hard at life? Why not just kill yourself if you hate it that much?

>> No.17658783

>>17658771
>nooo stop criticizing the people who fetishize suffering!

>> No.17658787

>>17658770
Shut up you condescending faggot. Your faux-compassionate facade only makes it more obvious that you're a posturing pseud.
God western """""buddhists""""" are so cringe, reach nirvana and extinguish yourself from existence already so we don't have to hear you whine all the fucking time

>> No.17658792

>>17658771
Neetzee is the equivalent of an emo kid cutting himself because the pain makes him feel spiritual satisfaction. It's pure cringe.

>> No.17658796

>>17658783
My questions were genuine, there's no need to sperg out.
>>17658792
I didn't mention Nietzsche

>> No.17658799
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17658799

>>17658770
>It's okay friends, I recognize your replies come from the place you are on your journey. I hope you find peace.

Shut up you faggot little bitch, you digusting excuse of a religion

>> No.17658803

>>17658787
You seem awfully upset. Would you like to explore the place from which this emotion emanates? Perhaps you will not be able to have that conversation with me, but perhaps there is someone in your life with whom you could talk and reach some catharsis. Best of luck!

>> No.17658809

>>17657376
Why has Nietzsche become the biggest pleb filter?
Is it because most people base his ideas of him out of pop culture references in american media?

>> No.17658817

>>17658803
>You seem awfully upset. Would you like to explore the place from which this emotion emanates? Perhaps you will not be able to have that conversation with me, but perhaps there is someone in your life with whom you could talk and reach some catharsis. Best of luck!
Holy shit imagine being this much of an obnoxious, pretentious piece of human garbage.
Kill yourself. Though I don't have to tell you that, it's the goal of your "religion" after all. Subhuman

>> No.17658819

>>17658792
Ah yes, Nietzsche, the man who said that anyone who wasn't willing to withstand sufffering deserved no sympathy, who idolized figures like Napoleon, is the equivalent of an emo kid
Bravo anon

>> No.17658824

>>17658799
There is no need to be upset :)

>> No.17658828

>>17658803
>>17658824
I can taste your impotent seething from here kek, project harder

>> No.17658829

>>17658803
Nigger

>> No.17658838

I sincerely think that someone who can't recognize the value of suffering isn't really a person. Maybe some kind of NPC, I don't know. It's the same thing for the existence of the soul. They are self-evident to any true human being.

>> No.17658839

>>17658817
>>17658828
I seem to be stirring up quite a lot of emotions. I am literally only exhibiting good will and yet certain posters seem to be losing their minds with rage. I view this as unfortunate, and genuinely hope this resentment and bitterness subsides, although I doubt it will. As for myself, I am quite content. You could be too! :)

>> No.17658848

>>17658839
Didn't read, seethe more bugman

>> No.17658854

>>17658770
>the thriving slave trades of past centuries,
No one gives a shit r*ddit

>> No.17658855

>>17658839
You sound like the average zombie on SSRIs
Is this the power of buddhism?

>> No.17658861

>>17658838
>I l-love suffering! It's great! I am totally not rationalizing!
as bad as Christcucks claiming suffering is a test from God

>> No.17658866

>>17658861
As I said, if you don't understand, you never will. You are not human to me.

>> No.17658877

>>17658787
Buddhism has some interesting parts but the western followers are so insufferable (especially on /lit/) they've turned me off from it completely. If this is what the religion turns you into, I'd rather not get into it.

>> No.17658881

>>17658866
cope

>> No.17658883

>>17658881
You will never be a real human being.

>> No.17658893

>>17658883
Enjoy suffering

>> No.17658902

>>17658893
Yes, bug.
Enjoy spiritual suicide.

>> No.17658909

>>17658855
>No one could possibly be content without mind altering drugs
It's actually quite sad that you believe this

>> No.17658910

>>17658909
>I lack the most basic reading comprehension
Meditation has really made you braindead.

>> No.17658915

>>17658902
>"You're a bug"
>"Yes, I routinely carry on conversations with bugs I encounter, what of it?"

>> No.17658918

>>17658902
>coping so hard you start thinking suffering is a good thing
Hypocrites, if that was really the case you would actively pursue the suffering since it's so valuable

>> No.17658921

>>17658915
>he doesn't talk to bugs
ngmi

>> No.17658930

>>17658918
>overcoming suffering is the same as seeking it out
Are you capable of something else than meme retorts like "cope"? Avoiding suffering is "coping" too.

>> No.17658936

>>17658909
The point is that you don't sound content, you sound fake and weird. I get that vibe from your kind all the time, that vacuous and fakely compassionate demeanor with a hint of orientalist smugness. Your religion is a literal brainwashing cult.

>> No.17658948

>>17658936
I'm not a Buddhist or whatever else people are labeling me. I just think suffering is bad and that people who glorify the endurance of suffering are going too far and actually justify the existence of suffering in the first place, since if there was zero suffering, there would be no overcoming of suffering, therefore we must ensure everyone suffers so they can overcome it. I view that as psychopathic.

>> No.17658959

>>17658930
It's being honest and trying to avoid it is natural, enduring it and claiming it's great is just trying to rationalize it. Like trying to get over being raped.

>> No.17658963

>>17658948
>I just think suffering is bad
And overcoming suffering is good. I've never met someone who was worth talking to and who hadn't faced some kind of hardship in life; the most admirable people I know have had shitty lives and became who they are by trudging on regardless.
>if there was zero suffering
But that's never going to happen. To exist means to suffer and just because suffering exists doesn't mean life isn't worth living. The people who hate life because they hate pain are usually people who haven't suffered a lot, and are beyond pathetic.

>> No.17658964

Unironically why are /lit/ Buddhists such humongous faggots? They're up there with christniggers as the most unbearable proselytizing twats on this board

>> No.17658972

>>17658959
The point isn't that you should throw yourself into painful situations like some maniac, it's that you should face whatever painful situations arise and not avoid living in order to avoid pain, as some do. I never said pain itself was great, by the way.

>> No.17658973

>>17658963
>Eh, we should have more suffering! It makes people better!

>> No.17658979

>>17658973
>still strawmanning
I accept your concession.

>> No.17658991

>>17658963
>people who haven't suffered a lot are beyond pathetic.
Psychopath

>> No.17658996

>>17658991
See >>17658979, bugman

>> No.17658999

>>17658996
You literally stated you think people are better for having suffered. Do you deny this?

>> No.17659024

>>17658999
Yes, overcoming suffering makes people better.
You're going to keep strawmanning at me and I don't care for that though. In the end you're free to do what you want, keep being avoidant and hating life instead of living it, it's your problem after all.

>> No.17659226

>>17658717
if anything it gives the victims dignity. Isn't Christianity all about suffering as salvation too?