The conservative 'protect the kids' people were right

[Anonymous No.17656013]

Everyone makes fun of the silly parenting the silent generation did, like taking away pokemon cards because it's satanic or saying videogames cause mass murder, but their heart was in the right place.

No video games don't cause school shootings, but it's obvious that boys playing violent videogames from an early age all the time is a waste of time, makes them impatient and snappy, and is general bad for them.

Same for all their complaints about the music being too sexual. We are witnessing just the beginning of a generation raised truly with close to free range parenting en masse and it's a fucking disaster. The kids have seen thousands of hours of hardcore porn before they get 'the talk'. The boys are nihilistic and oscillate from passive to violent. The girls are psychologically destroyed with record smashing levels of depression and anxiety. All the insane political extremism and gender bullshit is just a symptom of the problem.

[Anonymous No.17656083]

sounds based to me

[Anonymous No.17656089]

Ok, now what?

[Anonymous No.17656115]

the problem with video games, ironically enough, is that they don't make you violent. they pacify you to a damaging degree

[Anonymous No.17656140]

>>17656013
Americans really don't know how insane they are, do they?
In Europe you just talk to your kids like the human beings that they are and they don't even think of shooting up a school.

[Anonymous No.17656146]

>>17656140
Massive cope. I'm a Euro too and it's just as bad here as it is in the US. Everything is downflow from American progressivism - John Dewey, B.F. Skinner and the likes.

[Anonymous No.17656153]

>>17656146
>and it's just as bad here as it is in the US
No. Not even close. Americans are batshit about parenting, their kids are sheltered beyond belief.

[Anonymous No.17656154]

>>17656153
Prove it

[Anonymous No.17656159]

>>17656013
is the action to revolt enough...?

[Anonymous No.17656181]

>>17656154
Prove what. There is like a million articles on the differences.
First article: https://reason.com/2019/01/21/after-living-abroad-kids-strug/

I have lived in both continents and witnessed the difference in person. Their colleges are glorified daycares, it is embarrassing.


For concrete stats: There is one about physical health but that does not capture the whole picture:
https://www.unicef-irc.org/publications/pdf/rc11_eng.pdf

[Anonymous No.17656195]

>>17656013
Pornography in particular has ruined this generation.

[Anonymous No.17656208]

>>17656195
I can't for the life of me figure out how can someone not be coomer. Even without porn, your mind is just constantly filled with lewd thoughts.

[Anonymous No.17656216]

>>17656195
>>17656208
I’m a 19 year old virgin and I’m completely disgusted by pornography. I just can’t stand it, naked women in general disgust me. I’m not gay, I jack off to women, but if their naked I have no interest. What’s up with this?

[Anonymous No.17656227]

>>17656216
Quit pornography.

[Anonymous No.17656230]

>>17656216
Maybe it's a form of masochism where being denied nakedness and sex is more exciting to you.

[Anonymous No.17656235]

>>17656013
Its not about individual parenting, theh. When you bar your kid from all this popular stuff you ruin him even more than just by letting the stuff influence him. Stuff likes that requires collective action, for example starting with banning advertisement targetted at kids.

[Anonymous No.17656246]

Getting high is LITERALLY the only thing I care about, so maybe you’re right. Too bad for you, I guess.

[Anonymous No.17656256]

>>17656208
that's because you have been raised as idolizing girls

[Anonymous No.17656262]

>>17656013
I fucking hate how the current contrarian wave is being a conservative evangelical granny fuck fuck shit nigger this has got to be the worst 4chan has been ever I blame the fucking americans for this shit

[Anonymous No.17656272]

>>17656013

No, Boomer parents were lazy fucks who only did the bare minimum to try and shield their children from subversive influences and they chose their targets poorly. Its much tougher yet far more rewarding to homeschool, if you're not doing that you might as well not have kids tbqh

[Anonymous No.17656275]

>>17656140
>>17656153

Part of the problem in the US is the gun culture; not only how easy it is to obtain one but the general glorification of weapons.

[Anonymous No.17656279]

>>17656262
It’s a joke. You can thank our shitty partisan politics.
Trump’s out of power tho, so it will definitely subside significantly since the funding runs dry.

[Anonymous No.17656296]

>>17656208
Lewd thoughts is not the same, because you are restricted to your own creativity. Porn induces weird fetishes in you.

[Anonymous No.17656385]

>>17656013
>b-but muh authoritative personality!

[Anonymous No.17656394]

>>17656230
shut the fuck op you fucking pseud

[Anonymous No.17656425]

>>17656216
Idk man, introspect on it, the idea that naked people are disgusting is understandable, it probably has to do with your preferences due to your experience/lifestyle
>>17656230
Degenerate

[Anonymous No.17656446]

>>17656013
Yeah this is bullshit because these methods bred assholes and mental illness too. Plenty of kids have been ruined by overbearing overly religious parenting. The world is complex and can't be dealt with in such a black and white manner. There are cultural problems in America but it isn't from a lack of puritanism, that's for damn sure.

>>17656140
The average European is much more collected and understanding than the average American I feel. Every other person here is fucked up because of our societal standards and stringent rules.

[Anonymous No.17656464]

>>17656140
keep coping, am*ricanism and globalisation have ruined european society, we are just perpetually 5 years late on the new am*rican retarded idpol bs and thanks to s*cial m*edia the gap is closing, fast. thanks to the internet every "advanced" society is the same culturally. we're fucked so hard it's impossible to think of a way out of this neoliberal hellscape.

[Anonymous No.17656473]

>>17656013
Whats with the bizarre almost fetishistic obsession with authority lately, all y'all niggas talk about is religion, monarchy, fascism, traditionalism LMAO wtf is wrong with yall

[Anonymous No.17656479]

>>17656473
>yall

[Anonymous No.17656495]

>>17656208
That girl looks like she's fucking nine years old anon

[Anonymous No.17656503]

>>17656479
Nice pavlovian response doggy. Yall yall yall yall yall lets see if the npc catches on fire now

[Anonymous No.17656509]

Idk I want to argue against it but I'm seeing it anecdotally with my cousins kid which they did mostly hands off parenting with and he's some loser slob incel.

[Anonymous No.17656513]

>>17656503
speak properly

[Anonymous No.17656528]

>>17656473
we live in a fucking sick culture that creats narcassistic isolated men and rotten bipolar women
something has got to change, we went way too far against the mainstream and destroyed our culture and values in the process

[Anonymous No.17656540]

>>17656528
Sounds like you're projecting a bit. Sorry about your shitty parents bro

[Anonymous No.17656541]

>>17656013
You are not wrong OP. But it is not necessarily means we should go back to implement the past parenting ways into the modern world just because the outcome as such.

What parenting needs is a balance between restriction and freedom. Something that will satisfy children to have their own freedom while we are watching them.

[Anonymous No.17656543]

>>17656115
This unironically. Video games give you too much of an outlet when you're a kid. When you're upset, frustrated, angry etc you can just go shoot people in game and feel better, when in reality you should be training to beat the shit out of everyone who tries to fuck with you. Virtual violence should be a motivator for kids, instead it becomes a replacement for the real thing.

[Anonymous No.17656555]

>>17656262
Contrarians can't pick their ideas, they just have to do the opposite of the mainstream, which is now, well, you know

[Anonymous No.17656569]

>>17656540
suicide, divorce, mass spread of anti depressants, etc are all on the rise. you might be okay but this is a serious problem thats only made worse by a culture of shallowness, drug abuse, and utterly dysfunctional social hermits

[Anonymous No.17656617]

>>17656013
Errrr are you fucked in the head? This generation is the opposite of 'free range parenting'. It may be more 'permissive' in certain regards, but it's also way more cloistered -- not allowed to play outside, strong stranger danger indoctrination, helicopter parenting over grades, etc. Plus, studies show that all that disciplinary crap doesn't work and just turns kids into psychopaths.

[Anonymous No.17656621]

Never really got the "family values" stuff with Christian, until I realized that my life had literally been ruined by my family being shit. It used to be funny to me that religious people would forego economic arguments and employ draconian media regulations in favor of this one thing, "family values", but really everything in society starts with the family. i'm a deadbeat emotionless husk from blowing my childhood playing vidya, my parents were either away from the house or plugged into a device of their own, I literally would not be so autistic if one of them had managed to get me outside the house. I'm a weird combo of being sheltered and given free reign - during the week I would live with my mother who was always working but when she was home she was a helicopter parent who emotionally manipulated us with that PC mind control shit, she wouldn't yell at us to clean our room but would say that we should want our room to be clean instead. Then on the weekend we'd go to our dad's three-room shitbox apartment where he would just sit in his room watching pornos all day and let us kids play whatever video games we wanted, look at whatever we wanted online all day and late into the night. I'm not saying "trad" christian raising is infallible or anything but maybe if I had had that instead of what I got I wouldn't be a jobless porn addict with no sense of identity.

[Anonymous No.17656642]

>>17656555
this, it fucking sucks being one

[Anonymous No.17656651]

>>17656617
He doesn’t know what he’s talking about. He just wants to kvetch about the modern world because he feels alienated.
But you’re right, the more recent generations of parents have been criticized for having a much more helicopter-style of parenting rather than being hands-off like parents from the Greatest Generation who infamously totally ignored their boomer children.

[Anonymous No.17656655]

>>17656617
>Plus, studies show that all that disciplinary crap doesn't work and just turns kids into psychopaths.

did work for thousand years but suddenly you have studies who say it doesnt while we see what they advice doesnt work and makes things worse but oh well there's studies.

[Anonymous No.17656670]

>>17656655
>trust me bro I'm a thousand years old

[Anonymous No.17656677]

>>17656089

[Anonymous No.17656686]

>Overparent your kids becomes a psycho
>Underparent your kids becomes an aimless incel

Centrist bros why do we keep winning

[Anonymous No.17656691]

>>17656621

[Anonymous No.17656694]

Literally every single social problem in the U.S can be traced to the deindustrialization that started in the 1980s, and this includes the breakdown of families.

If people do not have gainful employment, everything else literally decays and is annihilated.

[Anonymous No.17656705]

>>17656686
The reality is that humans are just retarded and 50% of them should be purged, take the Thanospill

[Anonymous No.17656753]

>>17656655
You have to go by the empirical evidence. You can’t go, “Well, this FEELS a certain way.” That’s not a way to run society.

[Anonymous No.17656780]

>>17656753
The academic establishment does not actually have that much credibility, especially when it comes to the soft sciences.

[Anonymous No.17656786]

>>17656651
And then the problem, as it’s conceived as, becomes that these kids can’t do anything themselves and be independent because they relied on their parents too much.

That’s the criticism I hear about modern parenting, but some childless reactionary loser (and repressed homo) wouldn’t know that. He doesn’t know anything about parenting despite being paternalistic.

[Anonymous No.17656788]

>>17656464
This. Please end it. I want to escape this reality.

[Anonymous No.17656795]

>>17656780
It doesn’t have credibility with you, sure. But you’re some fringe wacko posting on a forum for anti-social weirdos.

[Anonymous No.17656808]

There are too many humans unconsciously fucking themselves, eachother, and the planet. Of course they're going to start culling themselves and eachother unconsciously. This is normal, healthy behavior for a species that has overflowed its boundaries and over-valued its own importance to the ecosystem. The birds are laffing through all this. There is no right answer beyond your own introspection and acceptance of what you've been avoiding. "Good parenting" toward this effort is largely hands off once you've got your kid up and going and stable. You gotta trust them. You don't know shit about what people need or need to go through and former sinners have been far more effective saints than many virginal life-long devotees. NOBODY OWES YOU ANYTHING AND YET YOU DESERVE THE COSMOS. This is something you must express if you want the change you're looking for. Changing the rule-set isn't gonna fix the game. You gotta change the player. Games don't fucking play themselves.

[Anonymous No.17656872]

>>17656275
weapons have been a constant throughout all of history. it is extremely unlikely that they are the problem

[Anonymous No.17656873]

>>17656795
more than half of “studies” arent replicable we’re living in a terrible time for science
“empirical evidence” is just hivemind talk for not shaking up the system. I do not believe for a second that we as a species are smart enough to create some perfect society, its better to correct when we are wrong than to pretend science says one thing when its so obvious that american psyches are on the verge of collapse

[Anonymous No.17656889]

>>17656694
you never get to that without the federal reserve's decoupling from a gold standard, and the communist civil rights act which breaks the constitution

[Anonymous No.17656890]

>>17656808
Based

[Anonymous No.17656894]

>>17656694
Hadn't divorce rates been climbing for twenty years by that point already?

[Anonymous No.17656901]

>>17656873
You can’t ignore science just because some studies can’t be replicated. Which studies are those, btw? The ones relevant to this subject? Do you even know?

You don’t even know what the problem with modern parenting is. You throw out little factoids other delusional ideologues post on here and think you’re somehow wiser than researchers who study these topics for a living.
You think any credible researcher endorses helicopter-parenting? No, that’s not backed up by any research. Yet you’re trying to conflate your problems with academia and trends in modern parenting and there is no connection whatsoever.

[Anonymous No.17656923]

>>17656901
>You can’t ignore science just because some studies can’t be replicated.

[Anonymous No.17656947]

>>17656923
based

I can’t wait until we replace your pathetic religion with the AI supergod and its technocratic world government.

[Anonymous No.17656952]

>>17656901
academic institutions are objectively riddled with lying subversives, women, jews, commies. EVEN IF some of them are good, you have no way of knowing that without further investigation because the entire process is (((corrupted))). which means you cannot delegate trust to it. which means it is worthless (since you have to do the work yourself anyway). it follows immediately that anyone defending academia is a total loser who only swarms to defend it because their "credibility" (read: the purchasing power of their "expertise" in society at large) is implicitly what is being threatened

[Anonymous No.17656966]

>>17656947
hyperbasado !

[Anonymous No.17656969]

>>17656013
>but it's obvious that boys playing violent videogames from an early age all the time is a waste of time, makes them impatient and snappy, and is general bad for them.
No it isn't. But but perhaps there are some negatives to spending to much time playing video games and not doing other things.

[Anonymous No.17656989]

>>17656140
Your kids all listen to mumble rap and use instagram stop with the Euro-LARP. There's BLM protests in Helsinki. You live in a globally homogenized monoculture.
>>17656275
You could mail-order machine guns and anti-tank weapons after the First World War. Gun control was only really implemented in Europe in the 20th century. More cope.

[Anonymous No.17656993]

>>17656901
do you hear yourself right now?
http://ds-wordpress.haverford.edu/psych2015/projects/chapter/replicationreproducibility/
you really dont have to read more than the first page and you can google it yourself.
Psychology and sociology are just manipulation its so easy to self report incorrect data on a survey, its so easy to create spurious connections because you asked bad questions
dismantling the entire system our species has lived out lives by for millennias (family, culture, faith, gender) because “science says so” is huffing your own farts and being surprised you get brain damage from it

[Anonymous No.17657022]

>>17656642
based reluctant contrarian!

[Anonymous No.17657039]

>>17656969
Thats exactly what he said. young men should be out there talking to women, networking, making meaningful life decisions and getting involved with the church/community/sport/buisness but instead we’ve built hyper addicting rocks and glass you can stare at for hours, years and decades without realizing how much you missed out on until its too late
I promise that none of you are going to be on your deathbeds wishing you’d consumed more products, and watched more porn. You just do not find fulfillment in isolated, dopamine breaking, meaningless and sterile consumerism

[Anonymous No.17657049]

>>17656993
>http://ds-wordpress.haverford.edu/psych2015/projects/chapter/replicationreproducibility/
>you really dont have to read more than the first page and you can google it yourself.
Ok, but which experiments, is it developmental psychology? It is relevant to this narrow topic whatsoever?
And these are experiments, which doesn’t encompass all of research anyway.

> dismantling the entire system our species has lived out lives by for millennias (family, culture, faith, gender) because “science says so” is huffing your own farts and being surprised you get brain damage from it
This is an absolute strawman and based on your own fart-sniffing.
Nobody is dismantling any system based on empirical research. If you think otherwise, show me which research you’re referring to and how it’s being implemented in society.

Parenting trends are not following any research. There is no connection. You didn’t even read what I said.

You are a loser and not very bright.
You need to stop interfering in other people’s lives before something very bad happens to you. And it will. You’re already due for something very bad.

[Anonymous No.17657057]

>>17656446
>Plenty of kids have been ruined by overbearing overly religious parenting.

like? kids dealing with silly evangelist parents are far better off than the eunuch trannies. it's gotten so bad children are mutilating themselves.

[Anonymous No.17657068]

>>17657057
>pretends to care about children
>is against transitioning besides being well known that untreated gender dysphoria can lead to suicide

[Anonymous No.17657069]

>>17657049
>You need to stop interfering in other people’s lives

not that guy, but it's become morally imperative to actively interfere in people's life. children aren't qualified to vote before 21, they shouldn't be qualified to chop off their penis, remove their breasts, or take body-altering hormones before 21 either.

you say something bad will happen to that anon, but in truth, the badness is to lose your child to the tranny mind-rot going on.

[Anonymous No.17657078]

>>17657068
"treated" body mutilation still leads to suicide. they are insane, and they need to be treated as such. they are not women. they are not women no matter how they dress or what they do to their body - to say otherwise is a complete lie.

[Anonymous No.17657080]

>>17657039
They are for the most part.
4chan is not representative of the average experience. I don’t know why you can’t comprehend this.

The average young person is not like the average person on this website.

[Anonymous No.17657084]

>>17656275
"Gun culture" isn't the problem fuckwit. Social ostracism and cluster a personality disorders are. The lack of community is the problem. Lack of male role models and a common mythology is the problem. None of these spazzes even come from a "gun culture" family.

[Anonymous No.17657090]

>>17657039
>muh networking
>muh connections
I agree that computers are bad, but you are a soulless protestant piece of nigger shit.

[Anonymous No.17657098]

>>17657068
>Transition
>kys anyway

[Anonymous No.17657104]

>>17657069
It’s not your place to parent other people’s children, especially when you’re a childless repressed homo weirdo.

[Anonymous No.17657107]

>>17656808
Based Gamer

[Anonymous No.17657119]

>>17656275
Nope. There are countries with high guns per capita -- Switzerland, for example -- that have very few gun-related deaths.

You're looking for a scapegoat, in the same way someone blames videogames or music, rather than personal responsibility.

[Anonymous No.17657131]

>>17656013
Violent games have been linked to increased aggression, and let's be real here it isn't hard to see how the normalization of images of shooting people violently can make a school shooting seem less outlandish to an angry kid.
You say that porn affects people so why wouldn't violent video games?

[Anonymous No.17657134]

>>17657104
Based and that's why I'll be giving my children their first gun at age 8 and their first "assault rifle" at 14 as well as teaching them to hunt, fish, gut, skin, and pluck.

[Anonymous No.17657137]

>>17657104
It is our place - as a society. Parents have certain limitations in regards to their children, and enabling themselves to physically mutilate their body is one of them. Parents do not have a moral carte-blanche to do whatever they like to their kids, there has always been a limit.

>childless homo

you're projecting. i'd crush your skull in seconds, freak.

[Anonymous No.17657150]

>>17657137
Your choice is between parents being able to abuse children and the state being able to abuse them, someone is always going to have authority over the children and that person/group will be able to abuse them if they choose. Of these options two the former is vastly preferable since parents are much more likely to genuinely care for their kids than the state is.

[Anonymous No.17657162]

>>17657150
The church is the safest corporation to care for children.

[Anonymous No.17657165]

>>17657162
The church(depends which church) is usually better than the state, but the family is on average best, especially if it's an extended family.

[Anonymous No.17657166]

>>17657150
the concern is WHAT the state or the parents allow; and the state has the responsibility to disallow immorality like child transitioning.

[Anonymous No.17657172]

>>17657134
I don’t care. People used to do that all the time.
It’s better than trying to brainwash them into some cult or something.

>>17657137
It’s not your place. What you’re talking about falls under the purview of the law. Of course abuse is outlawed. But that’s a matter of the law, not some general moral attitude.
Abusing children is a pretty non-partisan issue.

>you're projecting. i'd crush your skull in seconds, freak.
Then go hit the gym to “lift” and check out the other guys in the shower afterwards, eh?

[Anonymous No.17657183]

>>17657166
The state solution is totalitarian, inorganic, crude, and ineffective.

[Anonymous No.17657185]

>>17657078
If you spent 5 minutes googling instead of coping talking points you would know that transitioning actually lessens suicidality.
>they are insane, and they need to be treated as such. they are not women.
They are obviously not biological women, but transitioning is the only known way to treat gender dysphoria.

[Anonymous No.17657187]

>>17656013

protect the cum

[Anonymous No.17657195]

>>17657162
Unless it's the Catholic Church

[Anonymous No.17657204]

>>17657195
Catholic church still has lower rates of abuse than the state-run public schools so he's correct

[Anonymous No.17657222]

>>17656089

Just enjoy the ride as society collapses around you.

[Anonymous No.17657228]

>>17657204
state run public schools don't cover up child abuse rings

[Anonymous No.17657266]

>>17657228
So what, they still have higher rates of abuse, and the entire institution of mandatory schooling is practically abuse in the first place

[Anonymous No.17657268]

>>17657222
I am an old effete British man who enjoys stalking younger men to tell them about the impending collapse of society and to encourage them to forsaken all women and only read fringe rightwing literature for a living. I intend to stroke my micro-phallus on the shitter as I read Ebola and as I erupt, I shall shout, “PLAAAATO!”

[Anonymous No.17657286]

>>17657049
You are, as Yuri Bezmenov put it, completely demoralized. Anyone could try to shower you with facts, ideas, and research going contrary to your worldview but it won’t change anything, because you are the person in this picture going “This is fine” while the world around you goes up in flames. It’s not just one thing you’re wrong about, you’re fractally wrong at every level. You worship the cult of scientism and credentialism, your inner instincts and intuition have been utterly disabled, if someone with a PhD tells you, “Actually, we live in the BEST time of human history” you believe it, you’ve invested your entire personality into the system.

>It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society.

Jiddu Krishnamurti

[Anonymous No.17657298]

>>17656208
because all media is porn these days

[Anonymous No.17657313]

>>17657090
Ok you dont have to make money from it if you dont want to. If you wanna just hang out with family that's fine too
>>17657080
There has been a sharp increase in loneliness in america. suicide is now the 10th leading cause of death and the amount of people who report just having just 1 close friend has doubled. white males (the most isolated group) account for about 70% of the suicides especially when they reach middle age and realize just how alone they are and how little their dysfunction emotionally stunted lives have meant

[Anonymous No.17657353]

>>17656296
Exactly. I don't think masturbation is necessarily bad. Everyone does it. It's pornography that is the problem. It corrupts you.

[Anonymous No.17657364]

>>17657172
I'm the guy from earlier you called "loser" and I typed a whole fucking essay but it got deleted because I had to reload the page.. whatever.
(bowling alone, anti-fragile, coddling of the american mind, the body keeps score) etc are the books I wanted to talk about and how generational trauma and interest groups have put short term interests above long term societal health. I am a big believer in incremental change and not in major reshuffling that's the core of my argument.

I'm not even homophobic but more and more science is showing that being gay is caused by environment. not having a father, spending too much time with women, not having male role models all causes confusion. they've done studies on twins and normally their both gay only a negligible amount of the time
modern scientific parenting is the cause of your own problem. church, dads, family etc (all of which are on the decline) all help children develop a normal healthy relationship to gender in this way this "live and let live" scientific stuff doesn't. (the greeks were pretty gay tho so I do think it's a cultural thing too)

[Anonymous No.17657368]

>>17657286
I’m demoralized by reactionaries. But they’re about to be out of my life entirely, so I’m not worried about it.

Generations of research on a topic is not going to have the problem of reproducibility. Plenty about parenting has literal decades of research behind it.

I like this time in history just fine. My problem thus far has been because of the US government and reactionaries such as yourself of late who have tried their darndest to make me miserable so I would have some kind of epiphany about how dreadful modern society is.
Their efforts failed and now it’s time for us to part ways forever.

>>17657313
>There has been a sharp increase in loneliness in america. suicide is now the 10th leading cause of death and the amount of people who report just having just 1 close friend has doubled. white males (the most isolated group) account for about 70% of the suicides especially when they reach middle age and realize just how alone they are and how little their dysfunction emotionally stunted lives have meant
I cannot trust these studies, sorry. There’s a reproducibility crisis.

[Anonymous No.17657380]

>>17657368
>I’m demoralized by reactionaries. But they’re about to be out of my life entirely, so I’m not worried about it.
What are you talking about lel

[Anonymous No.17657398]

>>17657364
>I'm not even homophobic but more and more science is showing that being gay is caused by environment. not having a father, spending too much time with women, not having male role models all causes confusion.
Which research is this again? The Heritage Foundation?

> modern scientific parenting is the cause of your own problem.
There’s no such thing. Most parents don’t follow what research says to do.
No research encourages being an overbearing parent, which is the most common criticism for modern parenting.

[Anonymous No.17657407]

>>17657368
thats fair. honestly I'd just see it more or less as a big reset. climate change is gonna strike in a few decades and when we will have billions of refugees fleeing to the west I doubt this current trend of kum-by-yah is gonna stick around I just hope we can strengthen our traditions and have a healthy society before that; rather than pretending we can cram all sorts of disaffected people on top of each other with no problem

[Anonymous No.17657409]

>>17657380
I’m stalked by reactionaries in my personal life.

There’s about to be a changing of guards in the government though and they’re going to get the boot.

They were some of the most obtuse and oblivious people I’ve ever interacted with and I’m not exaggerating.

Time to part ways for good. The reactionary paternalism has run in its course.

[Anonymous No.17657413]

>>17657398
There is a difference between disciplinary and over-bearing, in fact a lot of over-bearing parents are reluctant to discipline their kids at all, they just keep them on a kind of leash in a padded room so to speak.

[Anonymous No.17657417]

>>17656275
Guns and every weapons (even pepper spray) are illegal in my country, and yet everyone has guns. Don't fall for the "gun control" meme.

[Anonymous No.17657419]

>>17657413
Isn’t that what being grounded is?
That’s discipline.

They did that in the ‘50s.

[Anonymous No.17657427]

>>17657409
Well that sounds a bit schizo m8, did you actually do something to attract their attention, like you're a public figure or? And the 'guards in gov' are already on your side, the alphabets are definitely not reactionary.

[Anonymous No.17657444]

>>17657419
>grounded
I was thinking more light corporal punishment, or being forced to work or whatever. When these were more common kids were much freer in terms of going out by themselves. I'm not drawing any conclusions about this btw, I just think these are separate axes we're talking about here.

[Anonymous No.17657462]

>>17657427
The Trump administration did it as some kind of modern MK-Ultra thing to embolden chauvinism in young men such as myself. They found me on here and thought I needed it because I was some kind of loser in their minds but also look masculine, so they told me I was brainwashed and this and that.
They ended up making my life hell for 4 years with nothing of value coming from it. It actually prevented me from moving forward with my life and created disaster after disaster for me.

> And the 'guards in gov' are already on your side, the alphabets are definitely not reactionary.
Under Trump they were.

I’m still being stalked by these people, but their reach is petering out. I have a feeling it will stop entirely soon.

[Anonymous No.17657468]

>>17657398
It's very hard to research and it's heavily being buried but all my gay/trans friends either had military or absent fathers and spent grew up with sisters. I'm not gonna link articles here because it's not easy to research but just keep checking in years to come I guess. Science these days is not funded/printed unless it supports a certain conclusion but your your own person and can make your own beliefs

>There’s no such thing. Most parents don’t follow what research says to do.
they do listen to the talk shows and their churches who listen to whatever their propaganda post is. The news in the 80's and nineties and it's focus on crime drove the trend in helicopter parents we're just seeing the effects of it now and how it's greatly affected robust emotional control. I have so many early 20's friends on antidepressants because they grew up alone in their rooms staring at instagram or whatever. people just werent made to live like this

[Anonymous No.17657475]

>>17657462
don't forget to dilate

[Anonymous No.17657482]

>>17657462
Take your meds

[Anonymous No.17657492]

>>17657462
>The Trump administration did it as some kind of modern MK-Ultra thing to embolden chauvinism in young men such as myself. They found me on here and thought I needed it because I was some kind of loser in their minds but also look masculine, so they told me I was brainwashed and this and that.
Can you explain what this means slightly more in detail, because this still sounds highly schizo, and I swear I am not trying to be an asshole to you

[Anonymous No.17657493]

>>17657468
>people just werent made to live like this
Yeah, no shit, which is why I found it bizarre the reactionaries were the ones trying to isolate me. They were trying to make me hate society.

But I don’t hate society. I want to go to the fucking rave and do drugs with everyone else.
The drugs your friends are given are just so an industry can profit. It makes plenty of people worse.

[Anonymous No.17657505]

>>17656013
I think that the main problem with video games and also senseless movies and somesuch becoming so popular, other than them being a huge waste of time, is that it makes people think of violence as something fun, trivial or even exciting. All this is happening while the real society tries to remove all references to real violence in the name of "safety". This leads to a generation of people who have no respect for death or real violence since they have never experienced it who now actively think that violence is good since it is the anti-establishment view. Violence is necessary, yes, but these people (perhaps subconciously) equate violence with excitement. They think that if a revolution was to happen it would be like a fucking superhero movie with a good ending, since this is what they have been conditioned to believe. All-in-all you have a lot of people who are eager to do your biding since they do not know any better. Eventually some open conflict will come about and these people will volunteer like Paul and his friends in All quiet on the western front. Sad

[Anonymous No.17657507]

>>17657228
That's only due to governmental incompetence.

[Anonymous No.17657510]

>>17657493
>focus on the symptoms, goy. you need drugs to correct those symptoms of course. mere chemicals in your brain. but DO NOT look at the cause, the reasons those symptoms may manifest. no goy, that way lies misery. it is better that you leave it alone. p.s. can i interest you in some more porn, goy? and how about a loan with that porn to buy a black hooker with, we can denominate it in shekels if you like

[Anonymous No.17657517]

>>17657475
Why should I dilate? They tried to break me because they thought I was too liberal/hippie-dippie, and I outlasted their bullshit.
They were trying to break my mind, but they didn’t understand my childhood was much worse than any of this. By far.
My childhood was actually hellish.

>>17657482
I don’t need meds at all. I just need ketamine, mushrooms, CBD, and MDMA on occasion.

>>17657492
They found me posting on here. They saw me calling myself a witch and a hippie and they got a bug up their ass about it, and they tried to make me more “masculine.”

China’s doing a similar program now.
The Trump administration and China were in a oneupmanship constant on trivial things because Trump is a fool.
The Trump administration used me as pawn with China and created this, sort of, reality TV show where they showed me off as if the government could take somebody dysfunctional and improve them.

But I embarrassed the government because I figured it out and I spent four years telling them how stupid and wrongheaded all of this was while they continued with the kabuki theater to impress China.

This is NOT how my life normally is. All my interactions with others have become this contrived kabuki theater put on by the US government.
I don’t know why we have to pretend to be like the Chinese. Who wants to be like that?
I’ll work and be mostly good. But I’m not going to be some robot for the government. I’m a dirty crazy hippie.

[Anonymous No.17657521]

>>17657492
Assuming that he's not taking the piss, he clearly is an actual schizophrenic

[Anonymous No.17657528]

>>17657510
The black hooker was to piss off the reactionaries because I thought it would be funny (and it was).

I wouldn’t be miserable whatsoever if I stopped being stalked and harassed. I feel really balanced.
If I had some ketamine and was going somewhere, I would be on cloud 9.

[Anonymous No.17657533]

>>17657517
>They found me posting on here. They saw me calling myself a witch and a hippie and they got a bug up their ass about it, and they tried to make me more “masculine.”
>China’s doing a similar program now.
>The Trump administration and China were in a oneupmanship constant on trivial things because Trump is a fool.
>The Trump administration used me as pawn with China and created this, sort of, reality TV show where they showed me off as if the government could take somebody dysfunctional and improve them.
>But I embarrassed the government because I figured it out and I spent four years telling them how stupid and wrongheaded all of this was while they continued with the kabuki theater to impress China.
>This is NOT how my life normally is. All my interactions with others have become this contrived kabuki theater put on by the US government.
>I don’t know why we have to pretend to be like the Chinese. Who wants to be like that?
>I’ll work and be mostly good. But I’m not going to be some robot for the government. I’m a dirty crazy hippie.
anon this is Trump, for four goddamn years I told you to stop posting on 4chan and what happens the second I step out of office? You're back here. And you were doing so good during our time together. Sad!

[Anonymous No.17657538]

>>17657517
>Schizo believes he's living the Truman Show, self-medicates with psychs and dissociatives, fucks hookers out of spite, and yells at invisible cameras that he will never be a chink
I'd watch your reality show anon

[Anonymous No.17657550]

>>17657517
Wow, I’m actually impressed now spot on I was in my post without even having heard everything. Rest assured that we all feel great sympathy toward you, and do not view you as an enemy, but a tragic victim of modern insane society.

>>>17657286
>You are, as Yuri Bezmenov put it, completely demoralized. Anyone could try to shower you with facts, ideas, and research going contrary to your worldview but it won’t change anything, because you are the person in this picture going “This is fine” while the world around you goes up in flames. It’s not just one thing you’re wrong about, you’re fractally wrong at every level. You worship the cult of scientism and credentialism, your inner instincts and intuition have been utterly disabled, if someone with a PhD tells you, “Actually, we live in the BEST time of human history” you believe it, you’ve invested your entire personality into the system.

[Anonymous No.17657552]

>>17657505
^ and so many young men dont realize they can live any other way. my friends just got divorced because he would rather play world of warcraft all day than take care of his sick wife and never learned how to be man.
>>17657493
I'm being a hypocrite for sure. drugs are fun but I think my life would've been better if I never tried them to begin with. my relationship with my dad would be waaaay better.
a lot of therapists are just as mentally ill as the people they treat (they all have therapists of their own too). one of my friends therapist said her doing street molly while clubbing was "great" for her ptsd. its the blind leading the blind

[Anonymous No.17657555]

>>17657533
I stopped posting for almost 6 months at one point and they still continued to bother me, so I figured it didn’t matter at that point.

>>17657538
Oh, I bet you would.
It’s mostly incredibly boring tho except for the petty melodrama they try to stir up from time to time. But even that is repetitious and monotonous.

Their interference has slowed to a crawl tho. I’m hoping it’s going to be phased out altogether soon and next season will be cancelled.

[Anonymous No.17657577]

>>17657550
>a tragic victim of modern insane
I really am! That’s funny thing about it.
Part of the reason I was chosen, I imagine, is because I’m a fringe person and they thought I would be easier to gaslight and discredit if need be.

>>17657552
>drugs are fun but I think my life would've been better if I never tried them to begin with.
Drugs were forced on me since I was a child. They had me on all the latest SSRIs by the time I was 10 or so.
I had very painful mental and cognitive issues my entire life starting in my childhood. They’ve only recently dissipated almost entirely, which leads me to believe they were caused by an injury.
> one of my friends therapist said her doing street molly while clubbing was "great" for her ptsd.
Sounds like good advice to me.

[Anonymous No.17657580]

>>17657068
40 percent is rookie number, you gotta bump those up you can do it!

[Anonymous No.17657619]

>>17657577
damn, I do not envy you on that one
It's really strange how much guesswork there still is in medicine yet how much it's sold that you can just pop a pill and forget about it
molly is fun, but theres a huge fake pill problem and I've had friends of friends overdose on just one or 2 pills. you seem smart enough to do your own research though, buy a test kit and make sure you trust the guy you get it from.
everything drugs give you you owe back to them and it does break brain chemistry and can make you depressed later in life

[Anonymous No.17657647]

>>17657619
>it does break brain chemistry and can make you depressed later in life
It depends what drugs you do and how you use them.
The drugs I like are among the safest.

[Anonymous No.17657674]

>>17656013
>god saw that my parents were horrible and my childhood was a living nightmare
>to make me feel better he psychologically and physically butchered the entire next generation so i don't feel alone in my suffering

Sorry for breaking the universe and civilization but I had a sad. Thank you God. God is good.

[Anonymous No.17657687]

>>17656275
DO EUROFAGS REALLY HAHAHAHAHA

[Anonymous No.17657700]

>>17656275
there is no gun "culture" problem if you are white. my father taught me to shoot and pounded the safety rules into me. i've never shot up a school. i own one firearm--a daily conceal carry. boomers and chocolate americans are the ones with issues around guns. you know, mods, eating all that chocolate does things to their brain, real awful. makes them hysteric.
>>17657119
this. when someone talks about muh guns i point to switzerland. there are places in america like south carolina, montana, etc that have guns all but for sale in vending machines, and they're the safest places you can be. the only gun crime is actually GANG crime and comes from thug "culture". stop blaming law abiding citizens for what criminals do. it's not a gun problem, it's a ------ problem.

[Anonymous No.17657709]

>>17657407
lmao, they said that last decade you scientard bugman

[Anonymous No.17657715]

>>17656216
You are ascended. A superior specimen.

[Anonymous No.17657731]

>>17657172
>What you’re talking about falls under the purview of the law. Of course abuse is outlawed. But that’s a matter of the law, not some general moral attitude.
Legalism is a piss poor foundation for anything.
It is ridiculous to focus on the law and dismiss the importance of the "general moral attitude", as the law is the product of the general moral attitude of society.

You say "of course" abuse of children is outlawed but you don't put any thought into why it is, and you just assume that's the natural stable condition of things when it's actually the product of the "general moral attitude" you think it's "not your place" to police.

The immorality of child abuse is not an objective aspect of reality, if it were child abuse would not occur. If child abusers are allowed to shape the "general moral attitude" without pushback from the person you are shaming as a busy body, then the law will shift to fit the demands of passionate supporters of child abuse since they do not encounter a political counterforce because you suppressed the voices that oppose them.

That is how things which were formerly immoral become moral.

[Anonymous No.17657743]

>>17657228
>state run public schools don't cover up child abuse rings
Horseshit. Administrators of state run schools cover up scandals all the time.

[Anonymous No.17657754]

my parents buying me a pc was a massive mistake. i went from being a confident kid who had all the girls to a loser nerd because i was playing runescape 16 hours a day

[Anonymous No.17657756]

>>17656208
we actually have sex.
>>17656181
in america it seems like every single kid is from a broken home, families are insane and hateful, everyone has disgusting secrets, every family has the pill-poppers and the pedos and the alcoholics, and everyone is just a dysfunctional zombie held up by xanax. i just met a guy who seems normal, but a little zoned-out and overly placid. turns out he takes antidepressants and anti-anxiety pills daily. he's in his 20s, should be perfectly healthy. something like 1/3 of the population is on psych meds in america.

is it like that everywhere or is there something about this place that kills the souls of the residents? just listen to La Dispute albums if you want a taste of the american life. car wrecks, psychological breakdowns, mental illness, random crime, etc are the staples. it seems like everyone here is completely batshit insane, but who knows, maybe it's like that in europe too? you guys dont seem healthy to me either. england has insane obesity rates and tons of psych issues like hoarding.

[Anonymous No.17657785]

>>17657398
>There’s no such thing. Most parents don’t follow what research says to do.
Parents follow what state certified child welfare bureaucrats say to do though, and state certified child welfare bureaucrats do what the research says to do.

[Anonymous No.17657812]

>>17656216
You want an intimate spiritual relationship with somebody like husband and wife. And seeing this reminds you of what you don't have?

[Anonymous No.17657949]

>>17656013
I dont really agree with all that but i do think that Harry Potter should've been banned. Not because it causes Satan worship but because an entire generation now takes their morality from a fucking Young Adult novel series.

[Anonymous No.17657999]

>>17656013
older gen:
>ruins the economy
>doesn't teach their kids anything
>insists on participation trophies

older gen:
>look are these fucking kids. They're all snowflakes that got participation trophies. When I was their age I had my own house and a wife.

conservatives:
maybe it WAS the gays and the videogames

>>17656013
What's next dipshit? Gonna start bitching about Marilyn Manson too?

[Anonymous No.17658007]

>>17656901
>You can’t ignore science just because some studies can’t be replicated.
Did your brain turn inside out?

[Anonymous No.17658040]

>>17657268
Kek

[Anonymous No.17658053]

>>17657462
Based leftie schizo for once, all the schizos here are rightoids

[Anonymous No.17658066]

the kids will be all right

[Anonymous No.17658732]

>>17657068
actually the suicide rate increases after transition

[Anonymous No.17658740]

>>17657398
>No research encourages being an overbearing parent, which is the most common criticism for modern parenting.
you are a fucking moron, no one is saying to be overbearing, plenty of research shows authoritative parenting is the best, even mainstream research says no screens in the bedroom which few parents follow.

[Anonymous No.17658746]

>>17656140
We euros suffer from the same problems as yanks you faggot

[Anonymous No.17658755]

>>17656275
Average twitter tier opinion

[Anonymous No.17658790]

>>17656216
>I’m a 19 year old
Opinion discarded

[Anonymous No.17658791]

>>17656786
Seethe harder. Not sure why you're so against the idea of there being flaws with modern parenting, other than being over protective. There's certainly problems with a reasonable section of society, producing retarded kids with no morals.

[Anonymous No.17658807]

>>17657068
>This is the faggot who criticises your parenting
Hahahahahahahahaha....... Hahahahahahahahaha

[Anonymous No.17658814]

>>17656140
I hate deluded euros who think they're above americans. we're below them, americans have a good idea of where they are even if that place is inside a car with the engine running and windows rolled up. euros are happy consuming american media and american conceptions of reality without even understanding or questioning the source, there's a certain kind of naivity involved which is far more concerning