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17655485 No.17655485 [Reply] [Original]

>therefore my friends we shall now sail BEYOND GOOD AND EVIL
What did Nietzsche mean by this book?

>> No.17655530

Bravo Nietzsche.

>> No.17655933

>>17655485

>therefore my friends we shall now sail BEYOND GOOD AND EVIL

>frogintuxedoholdingamartini.jpg

>> No.17655945

It's such an old joke, but I can't help laughing every time.

>> No.17656022

>>17655945
what's the joke me dumb

>> No.17656044

>>17655485
its a bad translation
in context at the end of the book after all the work he’s done establishing this it comes as a fine statement about moving past limiting ideas of “evil” and into more objective “good and bad”.
its not a novel where you name your book after the theme it’s literally an exploration of moving beyond slave morality of good and evil

>> No.17656045

>>17656022
The title drop.

>> No.17656049
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>>17655933
Based

>> No.17656050

>>17656044
good and evil is the same as good and bad but nietzsche does a lot of mental acrobatics to pretend otherwise

>> No.17656060
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17656060

Nietzsche's philosophy is unironically just German inferiority complex against Anglo intellectual superiority

>> No.17656072

>>17656060
He is right though. Anglo life is shit and so is any philosophy they produce.

>> No.17656074

I'm pretty sure he does actually say "Beyond good and evil" in the book though

>> No.17656082

>>17656074
Yeah lol

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17656185

This sounds eerly modern

>> No.17656488

>>17656050
It’s really not. evil as a concept has more to do with rising above to pack and achieving individual greatness, something discouraged by modern christian morality in a rather stupid way
bad just means poor quality
read the book before you respond and read it deeply, he explores it more in genealogy of morals
>>17656060
he criticizes everyone in the same breath, no one culture is massively superior to the others
europe should be one, as it is now, is what he was arguing for not just “we’re good they suck”

>> No.17656802

>>17656050
>good and evil is the same as good and bad
For fuck's sake, at least read the book before commenting on it.

>> No.17656876

>>17656802
filtered

>> No.17656880

Masturbate freely. Of course.

>> No.17656883

>>17656488
>It’s really not.
they are on a fundamental level
>>17656488
>he criticizes everyone in the same breath
nah, he criticizes brits much more than frenchies or others

>> No.17656976

>>17656050
Retard who hasn’t read Nietzsche

>> No.17657850

nah

>> No.17658515

>>17655485
It’s funnier when you do it so the title is the final words of the book. You wrote it like it’s uttered at the beginning.

>> No.17658539

>>17658515
that's because it's basically a quote from the book

>> No.17659717

>>17656060
Anglos are the worst Europeans, even worse than slavs and turks. Nothing of value would be lost if Hitler nuked London and NYC

>> No.17660369

>>17655485
I want to start with Nietzsche, is this book a good start?

>> No.17660464

>>17660369
No. You need to read Plato, Aristotle, the Stoics, Augustine, Aquinas, Descartes, Locke, Hume, Berkeley, Kant, Hegel, and Schopenhauer before Nietzsche. Then you start with Untimely Meditations, Human all too Human, The Birth of Tragedy, The Gay Science, and then maybe you can read this (though I'd recommend going through Nietzsche's books chronologically). Take your time dude, there's no point reading it now and not understanding anything.

>> No.17660477 [DELETED] 

>>17660464
You absolutely don't need Aquinas

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>>17655485
>and these were my confessions
Augustine CANNOT keep getting away with it

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>>17659717
pic related
>>17660369
Start anywhere except maybe Zarathustra, they're all trash and easy readings

>> No.17662166

>>17660464
retard

>> No.17662295

>>17662166
Thunder, just go back to /pol/ or reddit already.

>> No.17662600

>>17662295
>muh /pol/ and r*ddit
You're embarrassing

>> No.17664012

>>17660464
I read Sophie's world, is that enough?

>> No.17664075

Can folks on this board please read something besides Nietzsche !!

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>>17655485
>"But our love," she asks, "is not its name Tristan and Isolde?"
Bravo Wagner.

>> No.17664130

>>17655485
Morality is stupid because it is relative. There are times when you have to do evil in order to save something you love. Intentions trump actions.

Too bad he rambles and shit talks the entire book before getting to a thesis.

>> No.17664311

With a sudden, inexplicable feeling of trepidation I lifted the receiver.

At first, my straining ears could make out nothing, until — oh horror! — out of that awful, ominous silence emerged the sound of breathing. This was no product of human lungs, nor indeed could I possibly attribute it to any animal as yet catalogued or imagined by our zoology. It was a ghastly breathing — a wet, slow, sucking, fishy breathing — a blasphemous mockery of all earthly modes of respiration.

Then I heard the click of a replaced receiver.

I fell back into a chair. No longer could I cling to hope, and tell myself that those monstrous and indescribable forces had passed me by. No longer. Not after receiving the call of Cthulhu.

THE END