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17641991 No.17641991 [Reply] [Original]

Hey /lit/, do you want to see some ESLs seethe? Watch this.

Are these sentences grammatically correct?
>Are you the man in that picture?
>Are you the man in this picture?

I guarantee some ESL will come in here and attempt to explain how only one of these sentences is grammatically correct. I love seeing ESLs seethe over the use of this and that. So let the seething begin!

>> No.17642015

>>17641991
Are you the frog in this picture I am holding in my hand, or are you the frog in that picture on the wall?

>> No.17642030

>>17641991
Both are correct duh
>that implies something far
>this imlplies something close
For example "that" would be a picture hung on a wall, and "this" would be a picture held on my hand. This is my intuitive ESL understanding of it

>> No.17642033

>>17642015
How about
>Are you the frog in this picture I am holding in my hand, or are you the frog in this picture on the wall
Seethe. Go on I can already feel your seethe and how you're going to ESLsplain that it's wrong.

>> No.17642054

>>17642015
This sentence is also correct
>Are you the frog in the picture that I'm holding in my hand, or are the frog in this picture on the wall.
Let the seething begin.

>> No.17642061

>>17642054
damn I mistyped meant to say
>Are you the frog in that picture in my hand

>> No.17642084

>>17642033
Silly froggy, I'm not seething, I am having fun by doing something more besides usual refreshing of the page. Thanks!

>> No.17642087

>>17642030
>>that implies something far
>>this imlplies something close
That dog next to you, is he yours?
This tree, way way over there, what kind is it?

Your response?

>> No.17642095
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17642095

>>17642084
No you can't just make fun of me like that

>> No.17642152

>>17642087
>wow this guy is retarded
And then respond normally

>> No.17642171

>>17641991
as you can see nobody gives a fuck

>> No.17642187

>>17642030
This
/thread
You should try learning other languages anon, it isn't that hard

>> No.17642192

>>17641991
Reminder that "ESL" is monolingual mutt cope

>> No.17642207

>>17642015
The more important part is if he is a man stuck in picture 1 or picture 2.

>> No.17642263

>>17642187
See>>17642087

>> No.17642273

Both are correct. I just need to know if you refer to this picture *show picture of pepe being beaten to death by anime girl* or that picture *pointing at picture of OP doing gay sex things with his friend*.

>> No.17642277

>>17641991
"ESL" fuck off English is my fourth language.
Stop projecting your monolingual subhumanity on the whole world, filthy an*lo.

>> No.17642281

>>17642207
He is in both pictures, the Groucho Marx disguise in picture 1 and the wizard disguise in picture 2 can't fool me.

>> No.17642314

>>17642273
*points at picture across the long gallery hall* This picture over here is my favorite! Let's go take a look.

>> No.17642321

>>17642273
You could use "this" and "this" and the meaning wouldn't change.

>> No.17642328
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17642328

>>17641991
ὅτι
οὗτος

>> No.17642336

>>17641991

Demonstrative pronouns are not complementary in any language that I know of

>> No.17642341

>Amerimutt had to make a seething thread just because he doesn't understand differences between this and that
A thread died for this.

>> No.17642346

>>17642314
Yeah well you have very good taste. OP for sure looks sexy here.

>> No.17642347
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>>17641991
GUESS WHAT DUMBASS? IN THIS CASE THE MOST APPROPRIATE PHRASING IS "THE PICTURE", SO NEITHER THIS NOR THAT

>> No.17642369

>>17642087

1st sentence implies distance between the speaker and the dog

2nd statement is awkward and you would use "that" instead. Although using "this" towards something distant might imply familiarity, or obviousness to perception as in the tree sticks out in your field of view despite being distant from the observer

>> No.17642395

>>17642314
That doesn't make sense.
>this picture over HERE
>but it's all the way across the gallery

>> No.17642396

>>17642281
But what if he is now trans? What then? Is it this penis or that penis?

>> No.17642399

>>17642087
First sentence is fine, second is weird. Not an ESL

>> No.17642403

>>17642395
It does if he is walking toward it.

>> No.17642419

>>17642087
probably "learn to speak correctly you fucking retard"

>> No.17642426

>>17642403
True. But not if he's standing while he says it.

>> No.17642438

>>17642314
As >>17642369 says ”this” can also imply familiarity

>> No.17642447

>>17641991
please stop baiting

>> No.17642448

>>17642438
still doesn't sound right

>> No.17642461

>>17642369
It's not you're just ESL coping.

>> No.17642476

>>17641991
>nice 1991
>engine engine numbah nine
>on the new york transit line
>if my train jumps off the track
>pick it up pick it up pick it up

or

>who this is? (this just my baby daddy)

>> No.17642489

>>17641991
OP is illiterate

>> No.17642495

>>17642438
That chair next to me isn't taken. You can sit there.

Your cope please sir?

>> No.17642499

>>17642087
Needs more context

>> No.17642589

>>17642087
Second sentence sounds weird for obvious reasons but isn't grammatically incorrect

>> No.17642623

>>17641991
Yes, this and that are interchangeable based on situational and grammatical context. I don't why this would make anyone seethe, it's not that difficult to wrap your head around.

Obligatory OP is a fag and a thread died for this.

>> No.17642641

>>17642277
Jack of all trades, master of none.

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>>17641991
>Are you the man in the picture?

>> No.17642659

>>17641991

"this" and "that" are not homologous like some retards in the thread seem to think. There is a connotation of distance or familiarity which distinguishes the meaning of the two

>> No.17642698
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17642698

>>17641991
The correct form is actually
>Are you the man in phthis picture?
>Are you the man in phthat picture?

>> No.17642750

>>17642087
Context has a distance as well, it's not just 3D.
>That dog
Extreme abstract distance taken from that dog.
>This tree [that was clearly referred to in nearby conversation], way over there, what kind is it?

>> No.17642761

I only use my writing skills in english for shitposting so who cares

>> No.17642777
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17642777

>ESL
No such thing my little anglo peasant. I speak D EVROPEVN ENGLIẞH

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euro_English#:~:text=Euro%20English%20or%20European%20English,non-native%20English%20speaking%20population.

>> No.17642797

if in addition to your native tongue you speak english badly, you're not multilingual, you're illiterate

>> No.17642895

>>17642641
Fuck being a master I embrace the ADHD hyper nomadism.

>> No.17643246

>>17641991
Fuck Ch*canos, though. At least we can all agree on that as they're essentially ESLs and SSLs.

>> No.17643258

Дa нeт, нaвepнoe

>> No.17643303

>>17642797
t. anglo monolingual