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17641218 No.17641218 [Reply] [Original]

>Read Spinoza
>Regard everything that I should do as necessary
>No longer can deny its existence, therefore it occupies the chief position in my mind, as long as I regard it as necessary

Thank you Spinoza for teaching me how to have unlimited motivation, you beautiful jew

>> No.17641224

>>17641218
Life is a moment, the present. Your actions are predetermined, your intentions are your own free will.

Yeah, Spinoza is good.

>> No.17641228
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17641228

>>17641218
Happy for you fren

>> No.17641233

>>17641218
spinoza is another atheist mental midget who created a cope

this is what happens when you reject god

>> No.17641253

>>17641233
you should read at least a book before larping

>> No.17641254

>>17641218
The only based jew

>> No.17641437

>>17641233
cringe

>> No.17641534

>>17641218
>Read Spinoza
>Regard everything that happens as necessary
>feel lazy
>"well, I cannot deny its existence, its there for a reason"
>just sit around doing nothing
>????
>profit

>> No.17641548

>>17641534
If you feel lazy then you obviously do not consider it as necessary, because if you did you wouldn't feel lazy Q.E.D

>> No.17641556
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17641556

>read Spinoza
>think what he would look like if he was a girl
>realize this thought originated from God since everything is one substance
>mfw

>> No.17641652

>>17641548
>if you did you wouldn't feel laz
why? laziness and necessity do not contradict each other

>> No.17641668

>>17641652
yes they do
If someone pointed a gun at you and asked you for money, would you be lazy to give them? Of course not

>> No.17641708

>>17641668
you're conflating the meeting of laziness and external necessity with the necessity of laziness itself. There are no contradictions between those two anyway. You can feel the necessity to be lazy, just like your laziness can be overcome by external necessity.

>> No.17641720

>>17641708
Oh yeah you're correct, well then you must bring a bigger and contrary emotion to that lazyness to remove it, and regard that emotion as necessary. Thats what I do when I feel lazy

>> No.17641778

>>17641720
I like this way of thinking, forming greater forces, making big commitments help overcoming melancholy. Then its not something that is an expression of hidden character, but something maleable

>> No.17641881

>>17641778
How would one go about it tough?

>> No.17642025

>>17641881
Various philosophers following Spinoza gave different answers to this problem. Spinoza himself believed in the power of reason, so if you follow his line, you should use your reason and enquire into the causes that subordinate you and make you lazy. Reason can overcome emotions. Nietzsche would probably advocate an approach more focused on the body like diet, physical activity etc. Deleuze would root for experimentation, changing up things, combining them into new formations that work in unexpected ways etc. As simple thing as changing your posture or the chair you are sitting on can produce big effects. I find myself combining insights of all of these approaches.

>> No.17642034

>>17641233
Lame

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17642057

>>17641778
>>17641881
>>17642025
reminds me of pic related

>> No.17642067

>>17642025
Good perspective

>> No.17642089

>>17641556
looks like my sister

>> No.17642090

>>17642057
That image is basically to just conduct a scientific investigation into your affections. Might as well just read Aristotle lmao he tells you the same thing

>> No.17642091

>>17642089
Same lol

>> No.17642100

>>17642057
Forgot to add that that looks like meditation for the western/logical man

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>>17641218
If regarding something as necessary is a precondition for said event's necessity then it isn't ultimately so, and regarding is as such is committing to an erroneous worldview. It's both logically and functionally deluding yourself.

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17642126

>>17642105
I don't care

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>>17642126
Good call.

>> No.17642287

So does Spinoza like Socrates think it's impossible for a person to reason their way into acting like a complete cunt?

>> No.17642398

>>17642287
Yes

>> No.17642416

>>17642398
How do you look at humanity and believe this to be the case?

>> No.17642428

>>17642089
>>17642091
Tell them to hmu

>> No.17642472

>>17642416
I dont believe this is the case