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Hello /lit/, any chart that gives books/texts that discuss the concepts of power? (I.e., sociological, political, and philosophical aspects of it?)

Here are some questions I have that might help out:

1.) How do we perceive power? (Why are some people who are objectively powerful have trouble influencing others?)
2.) Why do people tend to gravitate towards a "leader"? What makes them a leader? (this ties in to 1.)
3.) This will sound redundant but what is the fundamental motivation to obtain power?

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>> No.17631355

a brief history of neoliberalism by david harvey.

>> No.17631537

The Unique and his property

>> No.17631893

>>17631304
libido dominandi

>> No.17632056

Naked Lunch

>> No.17632086

>>17631304
Rate of work done (from physics pov).
From a metaphysical pov, it's more like the capability of one thing to influence the other thing.
Eg: high quality genes dominate low quality genes or low quality genes gravitate or associate with high quality genes.
2)Master slave morality
3)the capability to influence or infect other's perception of reality like ideologies or memes in general.

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>> No.17632123

>>17631304
Watch the schizo comments on this video.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mGztoQF0HyQ
To spread Ur structure and preserve it so that the quanta of that structure could self reflect. Everything in existence is trying to achieve that from the patriots of mgs to the supposed strings of string theory.

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picrelated

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Foucault, Nietzsche, Voltaire

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>> No.17632549

>>17631304
If you have trouble with such trivial aspects of power then i can only tecommend you start with 48 laws of power

>> No.17632576

>>17631304
Kojima's new book. I hate him so fucking much.

>> No.17632583

>>17631304
>1.) How do we perceive power? (Why are some people who are objectively powerful have trouble influencing others?)
>2.) Why do people tend to gravitate towards a "leader"? What makes them a leader? (this ties in to 1.)
This is a simple one. What makes them a leader? General superiority over the others, how do we perceive power? General superiority over the others. Unironically read Pareto.

>> No.17632591

Der Wille zur Macht by Fred Nietzche

>> No.17633280

>>17631304
1. Force x speed.

2. Having answers, plans, and solutions that can bring visible results. No one cares about prophets until they start performing miracles.

3. To shitpost on a Paraguayan ice-sculpting forum.

Kidding. It's because the management role is inherently less physically taxing than the role of the laborer, as well as less cognitively constricting. The laborer must toil for a plan that is not his; the manager must create the plans and ensure his laborers work. In a more primal and primitive form, this sort of dynamic is mirrored in nature as predators and their prey- the prey must live their lives around predators, whereas the predators may control the lives of prey (more or less) at their whim. Obviously, this is all an oversimplification, but the takeaway is that it's inherently hierarchical- no pig is going to just set up a den in the middle of a pride of lions, and (for the most part) men are, as beings of free will and physical body, disinclined to act in manners they do not immediately see as being in their own self-interest or working on projects to that end.

The problem with a lot of philosophy is that it can often rely on arbitrary and artificial assumptions to get to its conclusions, forgetting that anything not built on axioms is built on sand.

>> No.17633357

Burnham’s The Machiavellians and de Jouvenal’s On Power

>> No.17634639

>>17632304
>>17632313
>>17632382
these. but also:
The Prince, Machiavelli
48 Laws of Power
Cicero's speeches
Agricola, Tacitus
Hamlet, Macbeth, King Lear, The Tempest, Shakespeare
Consolation of Philosophy, Boethius (for a view on power contra fortune)
Old Testament — read Moses and the Judges as military-dictators
Oedipus cycle — human power contra divine power
Analects — power as a ritual form
Wealth of Nations — economic power, structure of rent, wages, etc.
Han Feizi / Homes, the Path of the Law — law as a compulsive power
Philosophic Investigations, Don Giovanni — sex and communication as power

>> No.17634655

>>17634639
Why do people always hold up The Prince but seemingly noone has read the Discorsi when it's arguably the better book.

>> No.17634667

power is when i nut in your ass even though you said not to, bitch

>> No.17634679

>>17634655
The Discourses on Livy are good as well. I personally didn't enjoy them, so I didn't recommend them

>> No.17634734

Physical power is the ability to get work done in a unit of time. It's formulated mathematically but the definition is still sound, power is the ability to get work done in time. In physics work is always physical, but in a broader sense work can be intellectual or artistic, that does not affect the nature of power.

>> No.17634745

>>17634679
I just find it odd, especially considering that he discusses power in a democratic context.