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17630030 No.17630030 [Reply] [Original]

Honest question, what books show what it's like to be a girl?

>Dostoevsky writes some of the most hollow women I have ever read.
>IJ's reflections on womanhood are either an embarrassment or intended as a joke
>Nabokov's women are enigmatic. If he understood women, then delivering insight on them isn't on his agenda
>Hoellebecq's women are the most convincing I have ever read. But absolutely unenlightening since they just mirror my own absolutely remote perception of how women act. I am thinking specifically of the discotheque girl in Whatever
>Gravitys Rainbow is really a book about men doing things. Women are there and have thoughts but never really stand alone.
Like, maybe women are really like this, but

OP is an effortpost by some anon in a thread that just got deleted, I feel like it was written by a man, though.

>> No.17630054

>>17630030
god that was the dumbest thing i've ever read
they're literally given everything and it's still not enough

>> No.17630066

>>17630054
yeah it was awful and deranged but what makes them think like that??? what is going through their heads?? does anyone understand

>> No.17630087

>>17630030
It's kind of telling how women think most female characters written by men are "hollow and stereotyped", because that just means most women do act like hollow and stereotypical women in front of men but they're not intellectually honest enough to see the truth.
Obviously you can't blame them, because anyone would revile those who looks into your soul, wades through all the lies you tell yourself and finds utter emptiness.

>> No.17630093

>>17630030
OP screenshot clearly written by a FTM

Also read Ursula Le Guin and Emily Bronte (who absolutely mogged her much more prolific sister Charlotte)

>> No.17630095

>>17630030
Bovary and karenina.

>> No.17630099

>>17630054
>never grew out of boys vs. girls in gym class
really fucking sad.

>> No.17630106

>>17630030
Esmenet from the darkness that comes before

>> No.17630141

>>17630066
after becoming the most privileged class in society, they want to even appropriate suffering, so they can cry out in pain while they strike you with both power and victimhood
>>17630099
will you tell me to "get laid" too? should i just stop thinking and focus on fleshy pleasures, so i can acquire more socially acceptable opinions?

>> No.17630225

>>17630099
as you read it, keep in your head a picture of women you know irl and their objective life circumstances, like how hard you have seen them work and the success they reap from it.

for me with this image in mind it is a pretty bad essay

>> No.17630347

>>17630030
It’s something I’ve wondered about for a while, too. The closest thing I ever got to understanding the shittier parts of being a woman was when I (straight) went to a gay club with some friends, and an Austrian guy tried to grope my ass. Safe to say I gtfo’d right after, but walking home I felt like maybe that experience was a sliver of the predation women feel in public on a regular basis.

>> No.17630349

>>17630141
>so they can cry out in pain while they strike you with both power and victimhood
The most telling part is how the OP describes living in both "fear of men and with full power over them" simultaneously. If you have full power over rats, does it make any sense to be scared of them? Just use that power.

Maybe I am oversimplifying and girls don't like having to use that power, or it exhausts them to use it so constantly. Still, who told them the only alternative was fear?

>>17630225
I read the paragraph and I see my sister as well as a close friend from school. It describes both their thought patterns very well.

>> No.17630359

>>17630030
Well, one of the books I want to write centres around a mother grieving the death of her child. I have dealt with minor loss, but never to this extent. Are there any books that might help me understand this?

>> No.17630368

>>17630030
Jane Eyre

>> No.17630369

>>17630030
how the fuck is a non-girl supposed to answer this anon?

>> No.17630416

>>17630030
The answer is and must always be George Eliot. Read Middlemarch, dude. Blow your fucking mind.

>> No.17630461

>>17630349
I don't really agree or empathize with OP's screencap, but I can see it.

You have power over someone in a specific situations, but none in another. You can get any guy to have sex with you if you wanted, but you couldn't stop one from raping you in the other. I empathize with female weakness in that regard, but women are hard coded differently then men and don't really have the same aversion to being weak or an inferior to the way men are.

>> No.17630463

>>17630030
>I feel like it was written by a man, though.
As a femanon, I can absolutely guarantee you it was written by a man. Femininity isn’t a suffocating or exhausting experience. Some parts are shitty. But, I find the experience as a whole really fulfilling. And, that’s not even coming from a hyper-feminine person as you can tell from the fact I’m on his forsaken website.

Unfortunately, I don’t really know how to answer your main question about girl books. It’s kind of too big for me to recommend any one book to you. Really the best way to study women would be from female friends in your life

>> No.17630472

>>17630463
male hands typed this post

>> No.17630534

>>17630472
Fuck off. For somebody writing about the worst parts of being female, they didn’t even write about periods. Literally spent the whole time lamenting about developing tits and being a cum dumpster. It’s a fking larp written by a incel

>> No.17630544

>>17630534
>tranny mentioning periods as a false flag
you cannot fool me

>> No.17630548

>>17630030
That isn't a missive against the patriarchy or femaleness, she's complaining that she has a nature at all, rather than the godlike power to arbitrarily will her preferred reality into existence. She should probably go work on a farm or something.

Hawthorne, maybe? I keep recommending the Blithedale Romance to everybody because I think it's super underrated, and it's mostly about womanhood and the relationship between masculinity and femininity.

>> No.17630629

>>17630534
So’s this though

>> No.17630643

>>17630534
>they didn’t even write about periods
“She’s” not doing standup comedy

>> No.17630649

Read Jane Austen.

>> No.17630653
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Lolcow is a great place to experience what femanons are actually like.

They're also miles smarter than /lit/ scrotes.

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>>17630463
>I find the experience as a whole really fulfilling

>> No.17630687

>>17630678
tranny or happy slave, what do you reckon?

>> No.17630708

>>17630653
>What femanons are actually like
Based on that post, self-aggrandizing, egotistical, and pedantic?

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>>17630653
just checked that thread out
ahahahahahahahhahahaha holy shit
why are femanons like this

>> No.17630755

>>17630722
>board full of women is obsessed with men
wow didn't see that coming

>> No.17630760

>>17630653
It takes a real genius to get mad at the pajeets and spics on /tv/.
>oh oh I watched Le Samourai! I'm special for watching a movie every French art student loves!
>I know about the two most popular soccer clubs in the world, my favs include Messi AND Ronaldo!
>I read Ligotti, the PLEBS on /tv/ have probably never even HEARD of him. It all started with BUDDHISM and GNOSTICISM, my two personal fav philosophees :(
But really watching Rick and Morty and talking about being high test says all you need to know.

>> No.17630797

>>17630030
This is very clearly written by a man considering their life as a woman.

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>>17630653
>lolcow
bleak but accurate

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>>17630653
>>17630722
>even entirely female forums don't pass the bechdel test
what did women mean by this

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>>17630844
>>17630760
pathetic fucking scrotes

>> No.17630886

>>17630030
Read Virginia Woolf or Edith Wharton

>> No.17630911

>>17630864
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/9845018/#:~:text=Abstract,at%20very%20high%20T%20levels.
>The relationship between serum total testosterone (T) level and fluid intelligence (Cattell's Culture Fair Intelligence Test) was studied in young men and women. There was no significant difference between IQs of men and women. IQ tended to increase with T in men, except at very high T levels. It was concluded that (i) T may be associated with IQ, even in samples with no sex-related IQ difference; (ii) too low or too high T may be disadvantageous for fluid intelligence in women; (iii) T may be advantageous for this kind of IQ in men, except very high T levels.
Pretty sweet that my sex organs make me smart while hers cause debilitating pain once a month until she's 45.

>> No.17630917

>>17630369
Well, the answer is, listen to some takes by women
As >>17630095 points out, Karenina is a prime example. Zadie Smith called Karenina something like "as close to a perfect representation of a woman that a man could write"

>> No.17630921

Rape should be legal

>> No.17630933

>>17630921
Some men would very quickly start raping men, which would soon outlaw the practice as men cannot tolerate being victims

>> No.17630938

>>17630921
Same I’d love to rape you

>> No.17630946

>>17630933
>women are so weak that they would just get raped instead of outlawing it like men

>> No.17630951

>>17630946
Don't kid yourself pal. In fantasyland where rape is legal, all the legislators and constituents are men

>> No.17631035

Just assume everyone only cares about themselves but also is constantly lying to themselves about what a selfish piece of shit they are. You'll almost never be surprised again.

>>17630653
Women are like those really physically inadequate guys who compensate with good boy points and judgemental seething.
Is that what women are like? Sitting around circlejerking about how such and such said something that they didn't like so they made a face at them and blah blah blah.
Then reading this thread its kinda hard to see any reason to bother with people.. is everyone just this hollow and lame?
On one hand you've got men who are all a bunch of horny sociopaths, then you've got women who are a bunch of judgemental sociopaths, and whats left? It sure as hell isn't the trannies.

>> No.17631054

>>17631035
Yes, people everywhere are shitty self-absorbed mutations of their same-sex parent. The only answer is to renounce the rat race and embrace art. It won't make you any less of a peace of shit but at least it'll distract you from the smell for a while

>> No.17631060

>>17630921
Giving an orgasm for free to a woman is already legal. What are you a janny?

>> No.17631069

>>17630030
Cannibal Cheerleader

>> No.17631077
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17631077

>>17630653
scrotes on suicide watch

>> No.17631091

>>17631054
Art won't put food on the table. You can embrace art but in the end even that will hurt you.

>> No.17631097

>>17630030
>ctrl+f
>no Bell Jar

>> No.17631099

>>17631091
Nigger please, you can feed yourself on a part time job and food stamps (I've done it). Art requires sacrifice

>> No.17631106 [DELETED] 

>>17631099
shit i live like that normally anyways (but with obamacare instead of foodstamps)

>> No.17631108

>>17631077
Can we mutually agree that all users of 4chan and lc are low value members of society

>> No.17631113

>>17630030
Girl, Interrupted

>> No.17631119

>>17630030
Why is this in second person?

>> No.17631136

>>17630030
>activate windows

I lost

>> No.17631140

Wonder what her ass looks and smells like.

>> No.17631143

>>17631140
Fat and rank

>> No.17631148

>>17630106
this. bizarre how everyone online just seethes over this when the female characters are great.

>> No.17631162

>>17631140
It's attached to a scrotum

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>>17630347>>17630030
>>17630066
>>17630141
>>17630349
>>17630369

women can't get their easy life without getting men to compete for them. competition implies that some men will be bolder than others to be chosen by the woman for casual sex. Women are at the top of the sex market and they like it. THis is why women are communist for anything but sex, and they still want sex to be a free market, because they are the alpha predator only on this market.

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guys thats great and all but what if I don't hate women

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>>17630722
>>17630653
>scrote
>scrotish

these are amazing words, i'm adding them to my shitposting ammo box

>> No.17631350

>>17631336
you lying scrote

i'll bet you're festering with libidinous rage

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>>17631350
you'd like for that to be the case wouldn't you

>> No.17631372

>>17630030
the book of 'how women act' gets bigger the more people who read it. they always wish to be found worthy of being understood further.

>> No.17631422

Men write female characters like they're a walking pair of tits, women write male characters like they're women without tits. Just one of the hazards of reading fiction. The ideal would be for a man and a woman to co-write a book, each writing only their own gender.

>> No.17631427

>>17630349
>The most telling part is how the OP describes living in both "fear of men and with full power over them"

This makes complete sense. Think about it. Men want desperately to fuck women, and in many cases will work, fight, or otherwise debase themselves in order to to get what they desire. Women can use this to their advantage if they have the skill and the coldness to manipulate men, hence the power, but this also means that men might use coercion or violence to get sex from them, hence the fear.

>> No.17631431

>>17631422
Or just have good female friends and see what they have to say about your female characters. It helps alot more than you think.

>> No.17631434

>>17631431
>consulting women on what female characters should be like

after the rey fiasco, i have to disagree

>> No.17631440

>>17631434
When I say good female friends I meant ones that are conscious beings and unpozzed. They do exist.

>> No.17631462

>>17630030
That pic is pure disordered thinking, she has no one to blame for her unhappiness other than herself. If you want more of that, feel free to look absolutely anywhere whatsoever, and you will find some

>> No.17631466

>>17631422
Ayn Rand writes women as men with tits and balls and men as men with or without cocks and balls.

>> No.17631474
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I grew up with three sisters and the primary parent to raise me was my mother, so perhaps my perspective is somewhat different than some Anons in this thread. But I've never found women particularly alien or difficult to understand, or especially to get along with. Are they different than men? Yes. But I've never found them especially inscrutable or hard to decipher. They're not some grand enigma. They'll also usually be pretty honest with you if you bother to be frank with them and not put on a front yourself.

>> No.17631484

>>17631474
men who grew up in all-female households have their testosterone suppressed and are basically eunuchs unless they actively turn their lives around

you're a beta, and women get along with you because they see you as a harmless clown without genitals

>> No.17631492

>>17631462
It's classic borderline personality disorder.

>> No.17631536

>>17631474
anime watcher are pedophiles, just letting you know.

>> No.17631549

>>17630030
>Dostoyevsky
>Dude just make every woman character a combination of my wife and madonna in various ratios lol
Dostoyevsky is a man though, can't be blamed for not writing for women.

>Hoellebecq
He writes about degeneracy and black pills, that's why his women are accurate.

Go read the Brontes or some shitty YA romance you cuntoid.

>> No.17631550

>>17630030
All of this is stupid. The only thing that makes being a woman suck is that you are retarded and will never think of anything original or will never do anything actually impressive

>> No.17631557
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>>17631536
Whatever you say, Anon.

>> No.17631559

>>17631484
>If women actually tolerate being near you it is only because you're a low-test beta

Okay. How do women act around alphas?

>> No.17631567

>>17631492
I thought BPD meant bad person disease

>> No.17631587

>>17631474
Woman are incredibly easy to understand, never understand the cliche stating the opposite. They are simpletons who act and think based exactly the same based on a few instinctual triggers

>> No.17631602

>>17631587
That's not really the truth either. They are definitely more emotional than men are, but they are nonetheless not inscrutable to men. If you give a woman enough time to just feel her emotions she will eventually, inevitably, TELL you what she feels. Actually this is kind of a way in which women are different than men. Men tend to keep things bottled up. Whereas if you don't intrude on her and just let her be, a woman will almost always very plainly tell you exactly what she feels and why she feels it. I have experienced this within my own family as well as with multiple women I have encountered.

Just shut up and let them talk. Don't talk over them. You can talk when they're done. If you let them talk, they'll listen to you, in turn, when you speak. You might even get some love from them as a result, because you've been a quiet, strong pillar of manliness.

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>>17630030
>what books show what it's like to be a girl?
Who cares? Literature is not for them. They shouldn't even be taught how to read. Quit being a simp, faggot.

>> No.17631615

>>17631567
Borderlines are fun to fuck and fight but not see long term.

>> No.17631635

>>17631602
>Just shut up and let them talk. Don't talk over them. You can talk when they're done. If you let them talk, they'll listen to you, in turn, when you speak. You might even get some love from them as a result, because you've been a quiet, strong pillar of manliness.
Don't do this. It will only make you her emotional tampon. Guys who fuck definitely don't do gay shit like that.

>> No.17631656

>>17631602
>Just shut up and let them talk. Don't talk over them. You can talk when they're done
I already know what they are going to say and 99% of the time it's useless information or stupid opinions. I cannot help talking over them. I know their entire thought process from their facial expression, first three words, and conversational/emotional/cultural context

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>>17631635
>>17631656
You all sound very unsympathetic.

I don't want to fuck. I'm a volcel. I've had my chances to have sex and I've actively turned them down. If I just wanted to fuck I'd pick up the girls I pretty easily encounter at bars (even during COVID), or I'd just hire a hooker, of which there are plenty in the places where I go. But that's not what I want. I want to get married and have a family and have a love that never dies. I want to have tons of kids and be married to my wife until the day we both die. I want a love that is everlasting, and a woman who I can know as my other self. I want a woman who I know better than she knows herself, and I want her, in turn, to know me better than I know myself. I want an immortal beloved.

>> No.17631703

>>17631677
lol

>> No.17631712

>>17631677
>unsympathetic
Sympathetic equals simp + pathetic.

>> No.17631721

>>17631677
If you really want all of this, you really need to work on your unhealthy view of sex.
Rejecting sex entirely is as bad as basking in it, you need to get a healthy view of sex, one where love is tied to it.

>> No.17631724

>>17631466
Ayn rand isn't a writer. Just propagandist

>> No.17631737

>>17631559
Think about every flirtation cliche you've ever seen on TV, pack it into 1 minute of hair twirling. That's how long it takes for a women to signel interest to average alpha

>> No.17631738

>>17631721
>Rejecting sex entirely is as bad as basking in it
enjoy your samsara lol


>(When a monk) with fully developed intuition and knowledge, calm, guarded, endowed (with knowledge), always restrained, perceives (a woman tempting him), he should consider within himself: what will this person do? The greatest temptation in this world are women. This has been declared by the sage. (4)

When strongly vexed by the influence of the senses, he should eat bad food, mortify himself, stand upright, wander from village to village, take no food at all, withdraw his mind from women. First troubles, then pleasures; first pleasures, then troubles 4: thus they are the cause of quarrels. Considering this and well understanding it, one should teach oneself not to cultivate (sensuality). Thus I say. He should not speak of women, nor look at them, nor converse with them, nor claim them as his own, nor do their work. Careful in his speech and guarding his mind, he should always avoid sin. He should maintain this sagedom. Thus I say. (5)

https://www.sacred-texts.com/jai/sbe22/sbe2227.htm

>> No.17631742

>>17631721
>Rejecting sex entirely

I'm certainly not doing this. When I'm married I will happily have all the sex I want. I'll even prod my wife to have tons of sex.

I'm just saving myself for marriage, is all. I don't see anything wrong with that. It's simply cleaner and neater. I don't have any wayward children to deal with as a result, for example.

>> No.17631747

>>17631677
Keep fighting the good fight. Ignore the replies from 19 year olds

>> No.17631840

>>17631737
Come on. Call it cope or whatever but there exists no "alpha" who can elicit this reaction from all or even most women. I am friends with an extremely attractive e-boy who gets constant horny messages from chicks on social media and whose tinder is always blowing up and even he doesn't have every woman he meets spontaneously react like this. Any decently attractive man with confidence will have a girl react to them like this once in a while, but most of the time women will treat you like a normal person, and that does not mean you are a beta or some shit. You need to get out more if you think there are mythical 6'6" gigachads who immediately make every women they speak to uncontrollably horny prowling the streets.

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>>17631742
>>17631737
>>17631712
>>17631677
>>17631656
>>17631635
>>17631587
I often remind myself that we’re all puppets trapped in a decomposing cage of flesh and bone, with a million desires whirling around us at all times like sirens attempting to lure us to our doom. That these desires are nothing but the conjured demons of economics, society, and evolution and while they promise fulfillment they will only use you to their own ends, increasing their strength over you, leaving you a slave and a broken human. The world of phenomena is a test, projected by the noumena, and to conquer it you must conquer yourself.

Although I might try to convince myself that life has some external value, after a night drinking with “friends” or a sexual encounter with woman, it quickly becomes apparent that most friends are not worth having, and that woman’s sexual desires are so perverse and banal that their even having desired you bears the weight of a bad conscience. What man does not disgrace himself by submitting to a woman’s desires? He becomes a fool, a brute, a scoundrel, a cuckhold, all at once— and looses himself in the process. What man benefits from society? He devoured his life’s work to the machinations of warfare and industry, he trampled the earth, he becomes bound up in stories told to gullible children, he is sold slavery and like an idiot wears his chains with pride.

Service originates in the Latin word "Servi”, meaning slave. That’s what society, friends, woman the whole world, asks from you, your slavery. In English, the familiar for of “you”, “thou”, has long since died from the language. For those lonely men in Anglo countries seeking company, this should be (with honest reflection) enough proof that you will never find it. We live in a civilizational world-spirit which lacks even the words to express friendship, closeness.

There are two things in life worth their weight in gold: freedom and silence. How many men exchange these treasures for paper? Or for a soft touch of flesh? Or for some false sense of meaning to disguise their emptiness?

In books, there is the peace of forming a genuine connection with another person. If you cannot read, write. If you cannot write, read. If you are still lonely, hire a whore; it is less demeaning and less expensive than going to clubs. Logos is the breaking free of the soul from the flesh, embrace this and turn your eyes from the treachery of desire.

>> No.17631865

>>17631677
I respect this anon but for your sake I hope you belong to a religious community because I can't imagine being able to find someone who is down to wait until marriage for sex if you don't.

>> No.17631901

>>17631077
based guy, hope he isnt simping anymore

>> No.17631916

>>17630141
Men complain as if they have to fight in wars when they don't.
Women complain as if they have to birth and raise 10 children when they don't.

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>>17631865
I've lost a girlfriend over this. She was one of the most beautiful women I've ever met. She seemed desperate to have sex with me, and when I actively dissuaded her from it we broke up.

I'm dating with more religious girls these days. I'll find her. I believe in destiny. I know she's out there. I know she's out there, and I'll wander the world until I find her, and she finds me. We'll meet and we will be together until the very end, and we'll have, like, ten kids. And we'll be so happy, to the end. We'll have our disagreements, but I'll be honest with her, and she'll be honest with me, and we'll always work it out. We'll have a great marriage. I know we will. This is my destiny.

>> No.17631965

>>17631951
I don't understand this. The best traditional larp is to get her pregnant and marry quickly to hide embarrassment.

>> No.17631970

>>17631854
>What man does not disgrace himself by submitting to a woman’s desires?
It is an understated point that being 'dominant' with women means giving them what they want, when they want it, how they want it. In effect it's submission.
The most submissive thing a woman can do is be barefoot and pregnant in the kitchen, which is exactly why this phrase has become a joke. People pre-empt that reality by mocking it. Nonetheless it's unarguably more submissive than engaging in mock-rape or other 'submissive' behaviours which are in reality easy things women choose to do because they are fun.

>> No.17631995

>>17631951
Most traditional societies just rush you into marriage while you're young and not jaded.
You're putting way too much weight into an imaginary relationship. Stop fantasizing and go marry a woman so you can unironically have some much needed sex.

>> No.17631997

women want rough sex and gangbangs

women absolutely hate to be told i love them during sex. they want to be told they are hot and sluts

when the fucking is done, women want to hear they are a princess and that I love them and I am devoted to them.

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>>17631995
I'm actively looking for a girl, friend. I might not even care if she's a virgin. I want her to be mine. That's all. REALLY mine. I want to bind her to me, and for her to be bound to me. That's what I want.

>> No.17632059

>>17630030
>I feel like it was written by a man, though.
Everything on this board is written by men

>> No.17632074

>>17630864
all this is teaching me is that cynical female sociopaths aren't that different from the cynical sociopaths on /lit/

>> No.17632097

>>17630225
in school I remember girls working a lot more/harder on average and boys not caring as much and just fucking around. In college/the workplace effort exerted by gender seems to be about equal

>> No.17632106

This thread is overrun with incel shit. This is why there's less women on 4chan every year. I'm one and I have female friends from her and they're not that different from men. If you read books by female authors you also see that the two sexes aren't radically different. there's a lot of cultural baggage attached to being a woman, but that doesn't affect cognition that much, mostly sensibilities.
Of course there's biological differences too: Women are often more emotionally unstable and empathetic whereas men are massive degenerate coom monsters, pointlessly aggressive, and just generally predatory in a way that is very rare with women.

One trend I did notice is that many women like close male friendship, even homosexual love between men. I don't really get the latter part, but male friendship gives me a funny feeling too. So cute and pure... I assume this is similar to men idealizing female friendship and yuri, which seems mostly targeting men, not lesbians, perhaps for that reason.

>> No.17632129

>>17630030
women have no perspective, they have animal soul but not rational spirit and can be only completed by marriage.

>> No.17632169

>>17632054
Good god anon.

Chaucer was writing tracts about woman being unfaithful whores; they all are, no matter the time or period, they all act exactly the same.

Consider, if men could EVER actually get women to behave in a way amenable to them why is history filled with so much angst and suffering surrounding women? Their nature is to be adversarial and difficult.

>> No.17632176

>>17632106
You will never be a woman tranny.

>> No.17632185

>>17632106
never gonna pass, no no no.

>> No.17632186

>>17630722
>women love a philosopher whose entire philosophy is about muh fee fees > reason

surprising ain't it

>> No.17632190

>>17632176
>>17632185
Obsessed.

>> No.17632202

>>17632190
Spending time on a mongolian shadow puppet theatre website won't make you any more of a woman tranny

>> No.17632208

>>17632106
>male friendship gives me a funny feeling
I believe they call that sexual arousal.

You started so well and then along the way started to babble. You're probably not even a woman.

>> No.17632212

>>17630463
you’re a girl? wowza...

>> No.17632228

>>17632208
It occurred to me while writing the post that I got a lot of recommendations with such themes from female friends and most of the books were written by female authors, so I think there's something to it.

Maybe an element of romanticizing an other-ed experience.

>> No.17632279

>>17630030
I used to know a /lit/ girl who seemed cute at first because she was always reading and seemed pretty smart at first. But it turned out she was a total bitch who just gobbled up NYT bestseller trash and had no values and was not interested in discussing the classics or philosophy at all. She was 100% brainwashed by Barack Obama's book that she bought a fancy hardcover copy of for $25 and carried it around town and to work every day. She once got so mad she turned red in the face when I told her I wasn't going to vote in the 2020 election.

>> No.17632574

>>17632106
toasty tranny

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>>17631997
>>17631997
>women absolutely hate to be told i love them during sex. they want to be told they are hot and sluts

>> No.17632886

>>17632279
women gain many advantages in atheism, so they seethe when they hear some people don't care about politics in the atheist democracy

>> No.17632888

>>17631172
But wouldn’t you do the same? It’s in your own personal interest to be a pragmatic alpha predator. Having been romantically unsuccessful my whole life I understand the frustration over the hypocrisy of females having a nurturing mindset + being pragmatic and self-interested, but I think I would do the same and I don’t think anyone ever lives fully up to their own values. I mean, it’s hard to blame a person who acts in their own interest in any other marketplace. I think if you’re going to point the finger at women for making the most of their advantage in the SM you also need to point the finger at people with great financial advantages or whatever— basically lib shit. Yet few of these incels are going around campaigning for equal rights for animals, environment or lower classes because these imbalances have nothing to do with their own sense of alienation and sexual frustration. The world is fundamentally unbalanced, in ways far worse than women not wanting to date you (though it is very painful). You need to surmount your own limitations (no guarantees here) or you just have to temper your desires or you’ll always live with this pathetic rage.

>> No.17633042

>>17632106
>This is why there's less women on 4chan every year.
sounds good

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>>17630030

>> No.17633436

>>17633168
not this again omg

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girl does science in 2021

>> No.17633613

>>17633504
why does this make me so angry? (Not with her per say)

>> No.17633709

>>17630722
>same with Kratos using the dead body of Hera he just killed to solve an environmental puzzle
KEK

>> No.17633742

>>17630653
>scrotes don’t understand the deeper meaning of the philosophy
>brings up “scrote” philosophers
Is this bitch serious?

>> No.17633816

I'm volcel and I want a wife that is also a virgin but I'm approaching my mid 20s and it seems less and less likely but I also don't want to devote my life to being a slave for international capitalism. Always wanted a son but children with single parents end up fucked even if I think I'm smart enough to educate him I don't possess female qualities. No idea what to do with my life at this point desu.
>inb4 make money fuck whores
I'm already wealthy enough and I'm not into materialism or sticking my dick in a heavily used hope purely for pleasure.

>> No.17633873

>>17631602
I think any talking about your feelings is inherently a distortion of the truth. Our true lives are beyond language, and any attempt to render them within words is our culture appropriating us into its own concepts. So many of our social-psychological issues today are the result of an oversaturation of language, a degrading public form of psychoanalysis where every minute action and splitsecond feeling produces reams of useless commentary.

Someone talking to you about their feelings is their attempt to talk themselves into a certain character for the listener to validate. Perhaps from time to time someone benefits from hearing an alternate perspective, but this is almost never what women seek in expressing their opinions. It's a modern contrivance that constantly spouting your opinions is necessary or useful--at this point it's an active distraction from the more difficult and necessary task of honest introspection.

>> No.17633936

>>17630030
That pic is unironically a pretty good argument against feminism. It fills women with ideals that they can never reach and they hate their very bodies because of it.

>> No.17633986

>>17633816
Being single and celibate is perfectly fine. Really in this day and age marriage is not worth it unless you find a truly good woman.
Are you religious? Do you fap/watch porn?

>> No.17634003

>>17633936
Feminism promises women something they were never meant to have and are not physically and psychologically equipped to have. It’s a big fucking scam, a fantasy. Precisely the sort of thing that deceives the eternal Eve.

>> No.17634028

>>17633816
question your dream of wanting a family. Also In atheist democracy, am marriage have no meaning and you jsut end up being fucked as they change the rules regarding the divorce.

>> No.17634038

>>17633436
calm down, Gardner.

>> No.17634041

>>17631854
How dooes one get rid of his fapping and porn addiction? I've almost achived everything you typed in that post (even though I haven't read Schopenhauer yet), but my fapping and porn addiction is still there.

>> No.17634063

>>17633504
>>girl does attention-whoring in 2021

>> No.17634108

>>17634041
Whores

>> No.17634111

>>17633504
>>17633613
Not only do women expect to be praised in every aspect of life, no matter how debased or useless, they additionally have to formulate a faceless "They" as an enemy so they feel like they are triumphing over something. Without this "They," Dani is doing nothing other than using her greed for more money to justify commercializing her sexuality, but because "They" oppose it, debasing herself for quick cash becomes a moral victory. Of course, never in her life has someone told her, "You can't be a scientist and a go-go dancer." If such reservations were voiced at all, it was likely in the sense of, "It wouldn't be in your professional interest to be a sex worker," yet this would have been an intolerable constraint on her self-conception. So instead, she summons a Big Other via the defeated morals of the past, simultaneously spitting on the morality of her foremothers while giving it power by casting it as a boogeyman despite it no longer holding any cultural sway.

>> No.17634121

>>17634041
Pray and ask for deliverance from the slavery of lust, in the name of Christ. Believe it and it will happen. Relapse? Pray right after with full accountability for your actions. No excuses.
Continue praying and eventually you will be given the gift of permanent “post-nut clarity” —for lack of a better term.
I cannot stress enough how liberating it is to be free from that constant carrot on a stick.
t. Haven’t fapped for a year and in better physical than ever in my life.

>> No.17634122

>>17630093
It’s crazy how much of a chad Emily is compared to her sisters. Jane Eyre is genuinely incel lit

>> No.17634126

>>17634121
What prayer do you say when praying, anon?

>> No.17634146

>>17630066
This read like a mentally ill FtM gay fantasy. So much self hate. I guess reverse transbians like this exist even if they are 1 in a million kind of rare. It doesn't even come close to how a normal woman feels.

>> No.17634156

>>17631549
>Dude just make every woman character a combination of my wife and madonna in various ratios lol
>who is nastasja
>who is aglaya
>who is katerina from BK
>who is katerina from TRW
>who is grushenka
>who is tatyana pavolvna
>who is varvara petrovna
>who is liza Khokhlakov
ah yes, all madonnas, sure
as always, people on this board who shit on dosto have never read anything beyond C&P yet feel as if they are experts on the subject
you are pathetic, go read some more

>> No.17634189

Pride and prejudice

>> No.17634244

>>17633873
What are you using to introspect with? language no?

>> No.17634346

>>17632106
>One trend I did notice is that many women like close male friendship
This is true, but I feel like women are attracted to social status regardless. Like men are coomers all the time, but if you put women in a room with some flashing lights and some sexual music they immediately turn into gigacoomers. If you point the flashing lights at yourself and say something into a microphone that elicits a positive response, then nearly every woman in the crowd is going to want you.
The flip side is that if you show any weakness as a man at all women will want nothing to do with you. There's no faster way to make a woman despise you or cut you from her life than by crying in front of her or being in a state of weakness or vulnerability. It's also pretty evident that women love men who passively bully other men in conversations. Women complain about men being sociopathic manipulative douchbags, but that doesn't reflect the men I know in my life, mostly it reflects the kinds of men woman love to surround themselves with and sleep with who really make up a small minority of men.
I hate men but it's a hard sell to convince me I shouldn't hate woman too.

>> No.17634375

>>17634126
The words don’t matter so much as the intention of your heart and your stubborn persistence anon. Take full accountability, without blaming anything or anyone other than yourself, and express your heartfelt desire to repent (i.e change your behavior).

>> No.17634402

>>17634346
>There's no faster way to make a woman despise you or cut you from her life than by crying in front of her or being in a state of weakness or vulnerability.
>tfw gf once got frustrated at me because I was sobbing over the death of my dear grandma
She didn’t say it because of course she knows it’s fucked up, it but it was obvious she was frustrated. Any sign of weakness from men disgusts women beyond belief.

>> No.17634458

>>17630349
I'm gonna try these against the lefty trannies on /tv/, it's gonna be great against chudposting

>> No.17634465

>>17634402
It makes them scared. No matter how we might act on the surface, deep down we still follow old instincts, and the one of women tells them men are here to protect them. So when a man acts vulnerable it hints he might not be able to do his job, so a woman is scared and confused and goes on the offensive as a typical reaction when someone doesn't know how to deal with something.

>> No.17634471

>>17630030
That picture is retarded

>> No.17634473

>>17634244
Meditation allows you to become aware of concepts without relying on language. Prayer as well can lift everyday language to the Absolute, thus surpassing the limitations of our culture. I'm not even necessarily against thinking about yourself in terms of language as long as you make a sincere effort to be truthful; it's "communicating" your feelings to listeners and broadcasting it to the public that makes you a slave to cultural concepts.

>> No.17634483

>>17630653
>radical feminism is not enough
Lol

>> No.17634493

>>17632888
Seeing as you claim that you understand someone being pragmatic and self-interested, why do you blame incels for not caring about stuff like animals, environment etc. and preferring their sexual needs over them?

>> No.17634504

>>17634402
Yeah I got dumped by a girl once because I'd lost my job and my apartment got broken into the same day so I turned to her for emotional support
>oh err gee sounds like you've got a lot of issues you need to work through, maybe you should consider talking to somebody
I barely even like women any more. Someday I'll be financially comfortable enough to just pay for hookers and that'll be fine by me.

I've heard lots of women bitching about how men have it so easy so them showing any kind of weakness or pain is just a disgusting sign of their failure as human beings and their entitlement. It's fucked up how little they care, most men are just a walking dildo and wallet for them (and more often than not most men don't even have the dignity of being both things at once).

At least with men I can be myself.

>> No.17634534

>>17634465
So why should men treat women as anything but disposable trophies then? If being with them entails being successful, not having any vulnerability, basically acting like a high functioning sociopath... then once men reach that state they can have any choice in women they want. So why settle for one girl or try to provide her with a decent relationship or emotional support or crap like that?

>> No.17634557

>>17630349
>>17630141
I wonder if it's really true though, meaning women are on the top of the sexual marketplace. Because I suspect it's not the case, Chads are at the actual top of the pyramid as women have no options just to throw themselves at them because if they don't, other women will surely do.

>> No.17634592

>>17634465
>>17634504
>>17634534
This is incredibly blackpilling anons... the more I learn about women the less I love my gf.
Lately I have just been enjoying trashing her and breaking her ego through bullying. Wanna know what’s the worst part? She is treating me better. Giving me more high-effort and expensive gifts. She’s been nicer and sweeter to me in general.
I guess you can learn to have fun being an asshole, but I just can’t love her like this. I need a whitepill.

>> No.17634606

>>17634534
Women themselves discovered this and thus perverted divorce and family courts enough to fuck any man who dares to leave them. At this point the only reason to have a long term relationship is to have children and even then you'll be praying that she won't get bored and ruin your life on a whim.

>> No.17634607

>>17634534
When you keep one girl around for longer time she gets emotionally attached to you enough that she freely accepts the good and the bad. At that point she might even accept you crying and comfort you.
But usually it's best to keep really good buddies for that, much like she has her female friends. There are relationships that very successfully double as best friendships, but most people need time for themselves and friends of their own gender.

>> No.17634635

>>17634402
My ex used to look down on me for a false rape accusation that ruined my career.
She didn't give a fuck about the accusation, she didn't even seem to care if I had did it or not, it was the fact that I had lost my career and was a social pariah over it that she hated. She used to call me a pussy because I'd lost over half a decade of job advancement over that shit and would mope around, and would say I need to stop being lazy and feeling bad for myself. Then her friends would talk shit about me and refuse to talk to me or be around me (over something I didn't do) and she'd come home angry at me for causing her problems in her social life.
One time a group of kids tried to threaten/intimidate me at a party because of these accusations, and while I held my ground I cried after we got home. Some of these kids were black and after that point she'd often talk about how black guys are tougher than white guys and passive aggressive shit like that. Just because I cried about not being able to live a normal social life, like I had failed to perform as a man according to whatever dumb shallow standards for masculinity she had going on in her head.
One time I almost got murdered and she didn't even come to the trail against the dude who tried to do me in. I doted on this women, and she treated coming to my attempted-murder trial like it was an unreasonable chore I was forcing on her. Then she'd turn around and complain about me failing to be supportive enough of her.

tl;dr, when a woman whines about 'toxic masculinity' I want to smash them in the head and break their nose.

>> No.17634648

>>17634592
Perhaps take solace in the Buddhistic conception of personality that there is no one "real" you. If someone wants you to treat them badly and you do, it's not tarnishing "you." Of course, this only helps if you give up the desire that anyone will ever "truly" understand you. The best we can do is recognize other people's conceptions of what they think we are and act based off that, hopefully building up their conception to the point that we're comfortable playing that role.

>> No.17634685

>>17630030
>Activate Windows
kek

>> No.17634691

>>17630864
Their entire imageboard could be destroyed with just scroteposting. Imagine being so weak.

>> No.17634707

>>17634607
So no reason?
>just invest yourself in an emotional relationship for a long period of time and if you let this girl fuck you for long enough she might even become emotionally dependent enough to care about you
>just make sure you've also got friends in case things get bad because friendship with a woman might be expecting too much
Pussy isn't that good. I'd rather keep my time, money, and self respect.

>> No.17634708

>>17630921
But that's property damage.

>> No.17634715

>>17630463
Agreed. It's much too introspective to have been written by a woman.

>> No.17634719

>>17631108
speak for yourself, homo

>> No.17634724

>>17634707
Yeah, you sound like any relationship would be doomed from the start cause you are too bitter about it all.

>> No.17634741

>>17634635
Women have no interest in the truth. It doesn’t attract them or drive them in the least. Not in the way it does for men.
All they care about is strength. They will follow whatever the socially accepted “authority” says regardless of whether it is true or not.
This is what Jung meant when he said they are not creatures of Logos. Truth is not their goal. This is why it is pointless to argue with a woman. This is why a woman should never hold authority.

>> No.17634748

>>17630030
This reads like it was written by a (possibly repressing) FtM tranny

>> No.17634761

>>17631172
That's a man

>> No.17634766

>>17634122
>Jane Eyre is genuinely incel lit
What do you mean by this?

>> No.17634767

>>17630030
Swing Time by Zadie Smith shows it pretty well

>> No.17634781

>>17630030
>that pic
I'm 99% sure that it was a MtF tranny who wrote it. Women don't write like that, and not even those who go on 4chan are this introspective.

>> No.17634788

>>17631854
Sounds like gibberish only a loser who hates life tells himself because he never experienced the good parts.

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>>17630030
>ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME

Oh God, just shut the fuck up.

>> No.17634810

>>17634724
Currently I'm too poor and depressed for it. No woman has a reason to care about me while I'm living on the streets, friendless, mentally ill, etc.
I just don't plan on forgetting about this when my life fortunes turn up and I've got disposable money and a social network. Relationships are overrated because deep down you're completely alone and the moment things go bad nobody will have your back. It makes more sense to put energy into accumulating power because that will actually guarantee some security and love coming your way-- while investing energy into a relationship just guarantees that it'll hurt more when you're inevitably disappointed.
>>17634741
This is true. I'm focused in on accumulating power now, that's all that matters to people.

>> No.17634816

>>17632106
>This is why there's less women on 4chan every year.
Good, and now fuck off, hole.

>> No.17634818

>>17634724
Thanks for the blackpill. It was convincing.

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>>17630864
>men, who make wars and are slave masters and just love violence and rape

>> No.17634833

>>17634788
Yes and? Do you really feel morally superior because your life has consisted of nothing but "good parts"?
You sound like a self-important mongrol who thinks having an easy life makes him a big shot.

>> No.17634855

>>17633504
>that schnoz

Oy vey...

>> No.17634865

Women really have a pretty hollow personally OP. Sorry. It’s not like everyone agreed on this up until the mid 20th century, or anything.

The closest you can come by reading contemporary fiction juxtaposed with romance novels.

Romance novels are the books that women absolutely love to read. Usually it’s about some giga chad who fucks tons of girls and then falls for the protagonist. The book is generally about the woman’s adoration and obsession with the male. This is essentially what the female personality is like. Theyre not putting on makeup for half an hour a day because it makes them feel good lmao

Contemporary fiction novels are the books that women WANT to want read, the books that their higher feminine self aspires to read, the books that they would like to tell people they read. But they don’t actually enjoy this. They enjoy them because it’s a status symbol that ornaments their personality, and let me tell you, they’re wearing these novels like jewelry because the guy their interested in acquiring in intellectual or pseudo-intellectual. Women interested in acquiring a more athletic type of guy do not read novels.

The entire life of a woman is dedicated to acquiring a male. There are some exceptions throughout history but these are always in spite of their femininity.

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>> No.17634894

>>17632106
>Women are often more empathetic
HA. Bullshit. For animals and children maybe. Towards men? No a drop of sympathy. Be strong and provide or die is the message we get.
>whereas men are massive degenerate coom monsters
True. But then again, so are women. Both sexes should practice abstinence from cooming because it is the source of most evil.
>pointlessly aggressive
Only the men who seek bad boy points from women, because women like it. Again, born from the desire to coom. See previous point.
>and just generally predatory in a way that is very rare with women.
This is true.
>One trend I did notice is that many women like close male friendship, even homosexual love between men. I don't really get the latter part, but male friendship gives me a funny feeling too. So cute and pure... I assume this is similar to men idealizing female friendship and yuri, which seems mostly targeting men, not lesbians, perhaps for that reason
Men do not idealize female friendship at all. Kek. We think it is fake and lacks purity. 2D girl friendship doesn’t count because it is just fantasizing cope for men who choose escapism.

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>> No.17634922

>>17634892
>feel shitty about herself
>project it on some innocent dude
Heh. Typical woman.

>> No.17634924

Thread theme:
https://youtu.be/7pOtlFDcMOE

>> No.17634927

>>17634635
In a sane society you would simply slap the woman (open hand) for insolence.

>> No.17634942

>>17634028
My problem with this kind of MGTOW thinking is that it's defeatism at it's core. You should be asking yourself instead: what is the most you can afford to lose?
Also the risk of divorce is overstated because it's mostly a low IQ and poor people thing. Are you any of those? If not, divorce shouldn't be such a central issue to you.

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This is my favorite one of these.

>>17634894
>Men do not idealize female friendship at all. Kek. We think it is fake and lacks purity.
I would like to see good examples of it but yeah I mostly see women being vicious and disloyal to eachother. It seems very shallow. One of the things I pity women for most is that they can't seem to just be friends. With men, the men always have an ulterior motive. With women, it's always a contest and hierarchy, and you have to stick your neck out big time just to do normal trust level between friends shit. At any moment, your "friend" will be in a bad mood and lash out cattily at you, using your neck as a stepping stool to feeling better about herself.

Women seem very short sighted in general. I guess because they're driven by their emotions. I wonder if with better training, for example to find better outlets for their feelings of insecurity, especially inferiority to fellow women, they could be better people, and thus happier?

The insecurity thing is the real killer. Women seem perpetually unstable and unhappy, always a single jolt away from lapsing into some kind of cruel, bridge-burning takedown of someone who trusted them.

>> No.17634966

>>17631353
your shitposts are like how I imagine refined redditor humour would be

>> No.17634979

I actually find the way how not-really-existing most women's lives are horrifying. Like, imagine living a life where none of your choices matter, you don't need to do anything to be taken care of, and just never really exist in any real sense of the word beyond satisfying your craving for sustenance, shelter, and alpha cum. Being born a man always meant a much higher likelihood of meeting an awful end (killed, died without passing your genes on, etc.), but I don't think I'd ever trade that element for a life that is completely weightless and without drama.

>> No.17634990

>>17634979
It is weird to imagine women just sitting around doing nothing other than "what they feel like." Where's the drive and purpose?

I guess they sort of lie to themselves in college that they're all junior intellectuals and everyone admires them. But it's not connected to anything objective, they don't really want to bleed and suffer for any real thing beyond themselves the way men do. It's just a show so they can feel good in the moment. Women will go from pretending to be future astronauts to pretending to be BASED CODERS AND TECH GURRRLS within 2 days and not feel embarrassed. They take one intro class in something and start bragging about how they're doing it. That can only be the result of a lack of ambition, a lack of ability to even form ambitions. When men do that, other men instinctively shame them and they instinctively feel ashamed, because it's fucking gay and childish.

>> No.17635041

>>17634990
It's just childish self-aggrandizing. The tone with which they say "I'm a WOMAN so y'all better WATCH OUT because I am NOT to be trifled with ;)" completely unironically in a fucking workplace full of adults is the same exact tone that a little child has when he goes "Um actually my mommy says I'm the smartest kid ever?" or pretends to take some political shit he saw on the internet seriously but in subtly a childlike way that reveals he doesn't understand all the stakes or context involved and he's just posturing.

I even asked women who don't do it, "do you notice when other women do it?" Does it make you angry that they're infantilizing women as a whole, and lowering men's expectations? They said they have no idea what I mean. How can you not see it? It's a thirty year old woman with a PhD going "as a strong, BRAVE, talented woman ;) ;) ;)." What man jacks himself off in public like that? How can you think to yourself "I want to be the equal of a man, I want to be an equal participant in society and a fully mature human being" and then start declaring how brave and cool you are like a spoiled little fucking wiener kid?

>> No.17635059

I come to 4chan to get the expert's opinion on intersex relationship dynamics.

>> No.17635076

>>17635059
People who are naturally successful with women couldn't explain why they're successful even if you asked them to, the elements that make them successful are so deeply ingrained in their being that it all operates on a completely subconscious level. It's like asking a lion to explain how to hunt gazelles, lions don't "know" how to hunt gazelles, they just act out their natural instincts.

>> No.17635090

>>17634948
You seem to be simply projecting your hatred of women on them. Most women I know have healthy relationships with friends of both genders. Most of my friends are women because they're usually more accepting of demonstrations of vulnerability and emotion.

>> No.17635108

>>17634990
>they don't really want to bleed and suffer for any real thing beyond themselves the way men do.
To be fair they kind of do this every month, in a very profound way that men can't understand.
Just appreciate them for what they are.

>> No.17635112

>>17635090
>Most of my friends are women because they're usually more accepting of demonstrations of vulnerability and emotion.

They see you as an asexual eunuch, just so you know.

>> No.17635129

>>17635108
>Just appreciate them for what they are
Garbage?

>> No.17635136

>>17630030
Just read books by female authors. You don't read a book to "learn about females" you just come to understand them through exposure.

>> No.17635137

>>17634832
What the fuck is this? Some sort of weird feminist art project?

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>>17635136
Are you sure you want repeated exposure to this?

>> No.17635154

>>17635145
I hate women so much it's unreal.

>> No.17635158

>>17635112
I've had sex with some of them (that's how the friendship started with most of them anyway). Some others, I don't view as sexual prospects, so it doesn't really make a difference to me as long as I have companionship for activities and deep conversations.

>> No.17635184

>>17635158
So you're content with being used as an emotional tampon for the occasional pity sex?

>> No.17635189

>>17635145
Oh no... people having fun with their friends. Literally the worst.

I'm so much happier being around lonely acne faced faggots shitposting in front of their computer all day.

>> No.17635208

>>17635189
>I'm so much happier being around lonely acne faced faggots shitposting in front of their computer all day
I have more in common with those types than someone addicted to social media, hanging out at a sporting event they don't even care about, just because they don't have actual hobbies.

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>>17635189
Uh oh, your woman brain is stuck in default mode where all you can do is call people unpopular sexless losers for saying things you don't like. Can we try a hard reset?

Let's try again. "A majority of women are frivolous and stupid, thinking only of preening, mate-seeking, and their momentary whims."

Now you respond to that, this time without proving it correct.

>> No.17635213

>>17635158
I can't help but feel like your posts are highly insincere. I don't know whether it's outright lying, naivety, or coping over truths you don't want to admit, but you just stink of falsehood. It's not even like I desire to have you agree with me; there's just an overwhelming sense that your views will soon meet calamity, whether in a false accusation or disastrous relationship or the like. I don't wish you harm but I can't ignore the feeling that disaster awaits you. Take that as you will.

>> No.17635241

I hope you guys know there are women on 4chan too. We’ve probably shared some good times, you just didn’t realize you shared it with a woman.

>> No.17635248

>>17635189
They're not have fun with their friends, you fucking idiot. They're using their friends as stage props to dissimulate a carefree life on social media. Whatever pretense of an experience they're having in the real world is just a excuse to further their narcissistic self-mythologizing online. You dumb fuck.

>> No.17635261

>>17630347
Kek. Experienced something similar about 10 years and fucking hell did it feel horrible, especially considering what a shy virgin I was back then. Actually spent the night glued to the girl that had come with us in order to feel safe.

>> No.17635264

Shame /lit/ is so full of incels.

>> No.17635268

>>17635241
Way to ruin all my great memories of this place.

>> No.17635270

>>17635184
I have people around me to have meaningful, pleasurable exchanges and conversations with, and some others with whom I can have just-for-the-fun-of-it sex in addition to that. So yeah, I'm very content with my life as it rolls down my 20's because I feel like that's what I need right now Little bit of love for myself and for others, little bit of emotional contact, and good books. Are you content with all this hatred inside you, anon? I hope so.

>> No.17635272

>>17635241
Kill yourself you worthless cunt :)

>> No.17635271

>>17635241
Exactly. Keep it that way. The purpose of posting here is to be anonymous; it's only out of general convenience that I assume most posters are men. Any woman who tries to post here and outs herself as a woman fails at using this website.

>> No.17635275

>>17635241
We are trying to keep the shitty women away so the good women can continue being here as fellow anons, equals, and human beings. You don't want a bunch of nagging cunty bitter normie women doing to 4chan what they do to every other social platform, reverse engineering it into a toothless social venue for themselves, where you can no longer just be one of the group but have to be A WOMAN first and foremost.

4chan is one of the only places in existence, in human history, where a woman can just talk and post normally without being assessed at the door first for her appearance and her possession of a vagina. What do you think happens if we normalize the sins of the lower members of your gender here? It will become like everywhere else.

>> No.17635282

>>17635241
>there are women on 4chan too
In relation to men on this site, they might as well be a drop in the ocean.
>We’ve probably shared some good times, you just didn’t realize you shared it with a woman.
No. Woman posting is easily identifiable on account of them either being a woman like Butternigger and having to announce it, or a larping tranny, which is just a male larping. Either way, they're despised.

>> No.17635293

>>17635264
What an insightful contribution!

>> No.17635308

>>17635264
I don't know why I thought the dialogue would actually be better on this board, it's the exact same shit as everywhere else but this time with a 'book' coat of paint

>> No.17635312

>>17630030
most women are hollow, this critique is quite hollow. the average woman's issues and women's issues in general are far less complex and demanding than that of the average man.I don't want to rant post here but men have nowadays far higher requirements to be successful, sure the successful white guy has better chances but the average white guy is seen as a constant offender to all things good and all things holy while working the worst jobs and being the foundation most of this complain-society relies on.
If I was socialist I'd call for another revolution to overthrow these shitty societies.

>> No.17635323

>>17635282
There are good woman posters here, Butterfly is not representative, she is an anomaly. Trannies get run out quickly enough because, oddly enough, the one thing they DO have in common with the normie women they want to be so badly is that everything has to be about them and the whole discourse has to bend to comfort them whenever their mental illness demands it.

There are lots of girls here who don't fit into normalfag hell. I agree that they should continue suppressing their gender to prevent simping, since most men are pathetic faggots who would sell out their own communities in a heartbeat just to talk to a girl online. But there is no special reason to make them feel unwelcome if they're already fitting in.

4chan might unironically be incubating a future generation of women who will subdue the present, unrestrained culture of roastie hedonism. Or at least planting the seeds of it, since it may take a thousand years. This may be one of the first places in human history where relatively large numbers of women can learn the value of being simple members of a collective without being valued primarily for their pussy. It's literally a new experience for many women, and many of them take to it (although many admittedly relapse into thottery, as I said it's a slow process).

>> No.17635328

>>17635312
Wow guys, you have no idea how hard is being white... I'm literally shaking rn

>> No.17635333

>>17633986
It's not for religious purposes no. I find it revolting to be with someone who has been with another and I want to have a lifetime partner.
I don't fap or watch porn either.

>>17634028
I probably wasn't going to have a government marriage just a private ceremony where we exchange vows etc since there's no benefit in having the state listing you as married here, perhaps in child custody battles but that won't happen. What are your dreams/goals?

>> No.17635346

>>17635241
What reason would a woman have to be here, when she could literally be on any other website where people worship the ground she walks on?

>> No.17635351

>>17635328
It is and just because chuds like you jump in any time someone talks about it doesn't make it any easier.
Nobody else has to put up with this shit. Its like you think a total lack of empathy for white people makes you a good person.

>> No.17635353

>>17630030
While it's a bit 2edgy4me, the post is mostly true.
Men go through something similar, though. We are all born as mere consequences to causes that precede, surround, and shape us in ways that have little to do with what we want, or are.

Also, can we get a Butters' opinion on the gender of the person who wrote that bloc of text?

>> No.17635363

>>17635346
I think you answered your own question there, eh?

>> No.17635371

>>17635351
Today's tasks:
- Trigger a snowflake
- Status: Done

>> No.17635381

>>17635346
>>17635323
There was one woman poster in here in a thread yesterday who showed a lot of insight about how woman are treated but not in the OP thread. There were lots of simps, though

>> No.17635388

>>17635371
If I knew you irl I'd shank you first chance I'm given.
Just to let you know. Tick tock, eventually white people are going to stop putting up with your shit

>> No.17635390

>>17634966
>not hating women is a "redditor shitpost"

>> No.17635393

>>17635363
I'm doutbful as to whether women would rather expose themselves to this place when they could remain in their safe incel-free bubble. As a man you're used to people calling you a faggot here unless you say something actually interesting, but women are so miscalibrated in this regard that I'm not sure if any of them could handle this place with all its vitriol.

>> No.17635412

>>17635393
Not nearly enough women "expose themselves" to this place,if you know what I'm saying.
Its the least they can do in exchange for all our hot takes and wojack edits.

>> No.17635416

>>17635271
I agree that women should not out themselves, not because it goes against the purpose of 4chan but because it will derail the thread. The point of 4chan is to be able to post whatever you want, which women unfortunately can’t do to the extent that men can. Men reveal their gender all the time, it’s just that no one cares if they do.

>> No.17635424

>>17630030
>you are born into a society that's hell-bent on stamping out your personality

Stopped reading, you'd have to be stupid to believe modern western society doesn't do everything at the behest of women

>> No.17635432

>>17630653
>scrote
Did I switch timelines again?

>> No.17635435

>>17635388
You know "shanking" people isn't as easy in real life as it is on Call of Duty, right? That was the most pathetic try at a threat that I've seen these days.

>> No.17635445

>>17630030
>hates being sexual, hates being a woman
I'm now fully convinced that I was correct in my gender hypothesis; both genders design the opposite to be what they want to be.

>> No.17635447

>>17634473
Are satisfied with just awareness through meditation? Seems to me that to fully understand the concept you've become aware of, it takes a conscious effort to place it in your own metaphysics. Which unless you're 500 IQ requires language.
No disagreements on cutting out the rabble though.

>> No.17635475

>>17635158
>I've had sex with some of them
And they are still your friends? This is not supporting your argument that women are good. Imagine being the boyfriend, or God forbid, husband of one of those women, and having to hang out with her male friends she fucked. To think these women are going to become mothers some day makes me sick.
The absolute state of women and of you, effeminate cunt.

>> No.17635479

>>17635435
>haha no way violence could ever touch me haha that only happens in video games. I can do and say whatever I want without consequence, after all, not like anyone will 'cancel' me for racism against whites
Fantasy world. Try screaming 'nigger' in a ghetto and see what happens.
Poor white people are just as angry and have just as little to loose, and you should be grateful they continue to put up with your shit.

>> No.17635481

>>17635475
lol

>> No.17635485

>>17635475
Are you not friends with any of your exes?

>> No.17635494

>>17630030
What effect does women's average of 4 billion fewer brain cells in their neocortex have on their writing?

>> No.17635503

>>17635485
Only one and she used to send me nudes when she'd fight with her bf.
I wouldn't tolerate that kind of shit from a girl desu. Woman really think it's okay to be in a relationship and have three guys on standby they can fuck if things go south.

>> No.17635508

>>17635494
I think a man wrote the post because women are not self aware

>> No.17635513

Women of the future will be genetically engineered to be tall, thick, beautiful, and become sexually aroused whenever they have a maternal instinct response.

>> No.17635517

>>17630653
>x is better than y
She can't explain why

>> No.17635523

>>17635513
>future
>genetically engineered

It's all mutts and dysgenics while they ban any notion of this

>> No.17635524

>>17635513
>and become sexually aroused whenever they have a maternal instinct response.
Based. That's all I, a man, am really asking for.

>> No.17635526

>>17635211
Not just west; men being disposable flesh to be thrown at the grinder is commonplace and completely normalized in every society.
>It's perfectly legal to mutilate, damage and traumatize slave gender babies and children in a painful ritual
>The corrupt thoughform amoebas, also known as states and laws, completely dominate male-flesh, to the point they can use it freely in combat against other corrupt thoughtform amoebas
Women are nigh immune to laws, and women selectively bred men to be disposable and easily manipuolated; then whine when pathetic thoughtforms take over men. They were just jealous men had better things to do than simp for them; things like civilization.

>> No.17635534

>>17635523
No one can stop the genetic engineering revolution.
>>17635524
Men will be modified to be small and cute and energy efficient.

>> No.17635539

>>17635534
>women are elves
>men dwarves

THATS RIGHT LADDY THE BEARD GETS THE GIRL

>> No.17635544

>>17635416
>The point of 4chan is to be able to post whatever you want,
on the right board. If you want to post about your personal life, go to /soc/ or /r9k/ or /b/ or whatever other board might be relevant, but posting about yourself otherwise will get you derided for "blogposting." You can't for instance come here and post about how a character in a book reminds you of a girl you know because everyone will rightly tell you to shut the fuck up. I know guys get slightly more of a pass on this but that's really more because they can nothing by confirming everyone's assumptions that they are in fact male.

>> No.17635548

>>17635539
>dwarves
More so shotas or gnomes or halflings or whatever. But yes unironically this is what the species will become.

>> No.17635550

>>17635534
>No one can stop the genetic engineering revolution.
If that is true, it needs to come quickly.

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>>17635548
>halflings

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>> No.17635564

>>17635475
Wow anon, I can smell the insecurity from here. It's just sex, not a contract of ownership. If you're not able to let the past be past, things could get pretty complicated in that little noggin and you could develop some issues through your life. Maybe yours has something to do with your relationship to your mother, anon. What was it, did she hit you? Did she marry a stepdad that was mean to you? Talk to me. And calling me effeminate isn't an insult, because I don't see "traditionally feminine traits" as inherently bad. See you around, hope you get around to working on yourself!

>> No.17635567

>>17635390
not what I wrote or even insinuated. b2r

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>>17635539
Men are already halfway to sasquatch, the sex-fetish of women. If they had taste, they would go for beauty as well, but no. Hair is a must, bestiality is a must.

>> No.17635571

>>17635550
Japan actively funds research into modification of the germline.
America does not actually have any laws against human genome modification or germline modification.
>>17635551
lol

>> No.17635574

>>17635485
Of course not. I cut all ties the moment we broke up. Would I like my gf to be friends with their exes? No. Would I like a society where mothers have fucked their entire friend circle? Do such women raise the kind children that will build the society I would like my daughters and sons to grow up in? Absolutely not.
If you don’t understand this thought process, you think like a woman. Aka “muh feefees”.
Of course I feel like I miss my ex every now and then. But to contact her AT ALL would not only be to wrong her future prospects, but also to wrong my current gf.

>> No.17635584

>>17635479
I ain't talking about poor white people, I'm talking about delusional little cunts on the internet fantasising about how they're about to be part of some racial uprising where they're gonna go on the streets "shanking" people with colors of skin that they think is ugly

>> No.17635588

>>17635564
>ur just insecure!!11
>let each person do whatever they want!!
>u don’t own my body!! :(((
You even argue effeminately. Faggot. If you could think rationally like a man you would understand this >>17635574

>> No.17635609

>>17635544
I think men get more of a pass than you claim, gender can come up and be relevant on some hobby boards and when discussing books. Though it’s usually not a problem, as you say.

>> No.17635610

>>17635447
>Seems to me that to fully understand the concept you've become aware of, it takes a conscious effort to place it in your own metaphysics.
Concepts come fully formed during insight meditation. It takes almost no effort at all to put them in language since it's a matter of intuition for them to arise in the first place. Tracing out their philosophical consequences is of course a matter of linguistic complexities, but concepts themselves are simple. You either understand how they operate or you don't.

I won't claim that I'm particularly good at meditation or insightful about myself. I just think the idea that through a conscious discourse you can learn deep truths about yourself is harmful and leads you vulnerable to self-serving narratives.

>> No.17635611

>>17635564
Not that guy, but I hate people like you because I'm poor and was always kind of an outsider growing up so this was never an option for me, nor is it for most men. You have a harem of women, but part of the appeal women see in you is simply the fact that you have a harem of women. Meanwhile people can smell the loneliness on me and look down on me.
Even if I manage to succeed to the point where I've got enough money to frequent the gated communities attractive upper-middle class people hang out in and I can blend in, I'm still most likely going to end up seriously dating one of the girls you've been boning for years out of sheer desperation, and she'll more likely than not loose interest in me sexually after a couple of months.
Most men don't have a harem of attractive women who fuck them when they get horny. Most men (on 4chan anyways) are completely alone and alienated, and add in poverty and mental illness and you've got a toxic combination that really repulses foids. I'd be willing to bet you're above average in looks, dick size, and parental income, so it's not a surprise that most men would resent you.

>> No.17635620

>>17635584
You're laughing at the notion a white guy could suffer. It has nothing to do with your skin colour, you're just a cunt.
Eventually if you're a big enough cunt for long enough somebody will teach you a lesson or pay you back with interest.
Take that for what it is.

>> No.17635621

>>17635485
Why would I even be in contact with someone that has no reason to be in my life anymore?

>> No.17635622

>>17635564
Kill yourself

>> No.17635629

>>17635544
Thats not true. Imagine a woman trying to talk about relationship shit the way men here do.

>> No.17635642

>>17635609
Yeah, it's not fair but that's a good thing. 4chan is still one of the only places online or IRL where there's some exclusivity. It's not that I want a boys' club per se, but if women are more scared off by gatekeeping, then so be it.

>> No.17635643

>>17634927
Sean Connery knew what was up.

>> No.17635649

>>17635564
I know what he means lol. You write like a snarky bitch.

>> No.17635651

>>17635588
You seem to care a lot about who your mother has or hasn't fucked. You sure you don't have any mommy issues? Because I certainly don't really care about my mother's sexual life, or anyone else's beside my own for that matter. And again, calling me names isn't going to do anything for your argument, as these aren't really offensive to me. You're just coming out as an angry little gnome trying to get people to accept your delusional concepts of right and wrong for no reason at all other than an internal concept of morality that you seem to get from the disgust that you feel when you picture your mother having sex with friends. Try a different approach, maybe?

>> No.17635656

>>17635629
damn I'm really missing out on hearing about women's relationships. can you guys tone down the sexist gatekeeping? I desperately need to hear women talk about their relationships.

>> No.17635667

>women
Literally who fucking cares

>> No.17635668

>>17635651
Post tits

>> No.17635671

>>17635667
A lot of people it seems

>> No.17635675

>>17635651
I fucked your mom breh.

>> No.17635687

>>17635656
You respond with a shitpost because he’s right desu

>> No.17635711

>>17635651
>angry little gnome
Not him but all men will be physically small and cute in the future. This is not an insult.

>> No.17635732

>>17635656
I don't give a fuck about women, but I hate your self important hypocrisy and willful ignorance even more. Deny that a thing is the way it is then lash out when somebody points out the truth without sugarcoating it. Typical normie behavior.

>> No.17635735

Holy shit I didn't know so many incels were on lit. PLEASE go back to pol and r9k I beg you.

>> No.17635736

>>17635711
I ain't talking about physical, I don't even know how big he is

>> No.17635739

>>17635736
I misunderstood.

>> No.17635746

what kind of girl thinks like this? is this autism?

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>>17630030
>image
Oh noo! Honestly, if it was that horrible they would curse men with it. They don't, because having a lower class of ugly retard simps is more advantageous.

>> No.17635768

>>17630030
>over 300 replies
>only a few superficial attempts to respond to OP question

>> No.17635775

>>17635768
yea seriously they're all incel shit. Lit is doomed

>> No.17635790

>>17635775
>all incel shit
I haven't written anything of the sort in this thread.

>> No.17635802

>>17635775
>women blackmail dissidents and nonconformists out of sex
>world is turning more and more diabolically evil and tyrannical
Rice of incels is the rise of dissidents. Just don't kill yourself because of the anti-human and demoralization propaganda.

>> No.17635825

While obviously not representative of an entire sex, Stoner's depiction of women is sadly accurate to a portion of them (the same portion people are bitching about in this thread, apparently).

>> No.17635882

>>17635611
You see anon, I'm a poor guy too. Both my parents never finished high school and I live in a 3rd world country. Currently I have no job, and even when I had, it was nothing to write home about. I'm not conventionally attractive either, I'm under 6'0, very skinny and have the ugliest hair. For most of my life I looked down on myself because of these exact things, and this led me down this path of hatred of others and society in general, specially of men that I thought of as "hoarding all women". I lost my virginity at 21, to a girl that didn't even like me that much. All I had to do was go to therapy, where I discovered I had body dysmorphia, bipolar depression and some other little things. Didn't even have to take meds, simply switching my world view and looking at people like they're people (and that's in general, not only women) made me have better relations with others. It's more simple than it looks. You don't need money, you don't need these "attractive upper-middle class people" either. You just need to legit enjoy other people's company and see yourself as a valid, unique human being with the potential to spread love to the lives of others and to let go when it's necessary. And don't call it a harem, dude. I don't own these women, they're just my friends, and they happen to be confortable enough around me to have casual sex with when we feel like it. Bottom line is, seek professional help, even if it's just to try it out and see if it helps at all. But be open minded about it.

>> No.17635894

>>17630347
the difference is that you were a straight male getting groped by another male...

>> No.17635898

>>17635825
Rape victims?

>> No.17635909

>>17630347
Women bred men to be like men are today. Men dindu nuffin' - we're kawaii like pitbulls. Nothing wrong with the breed, nothing wrong with the breeders, no sir.

>> No.17635916

>>17635610
I'm genuinely intrigued, can you give me an example of this? If it is possible to put into words.

>> No.17635928

>>17635746
Female brained girls think like this.
Male brained girls are the ones you always see incels rage about. They treat themselves as a girl and not a person, like OP image has said, and they take advantage of that, even if they don't realize it

>> No.17635933

>>17635564
YWNBAW

>> No.17635948

>>17635928
>Female brained girls think like this.
>Male brained girls are the ones you always see incels rage about.
Uh-huh.
>They treat themselves as a girl and not a person
You merely call all npc's men. Not very nice, and very, very disgusting of you to selectively breed a race of NPCs.

>> No.17635977

>>17635916
It's not as exciting as I'm making it sound. A comparison would be when a memory pops into your head. You don't need to consciously think "I am remembering the time my brother hit me but then I got in trouble because he said I hit him." It's just that suddenly it's presence is there and you get to decide if you want to think about it in words or pictures or what have you.

In terms of my personal life, if I want to meditate on a specific thing for insight, I can set an intention on a specific thing and then observe what reactions arise. It's not like I'm consciously thinking about it, but more that I'm directed "towards" that subject. For instance I've meditated on being nervous that my brother dislikes me more than he lets in but found that most of the evidence I used in support was based on fears about the future that haven't materialized yet. It wasn't a conscious weighing of thoughts and memories but moreso a sudden lack of the fear making sense.

>> No.17635985

>>17635651
I would definitely discipline my mother or any other female family member if she started acting like a whore. Your kind of attitude is the reason your western societies wont exist in 50 years anymore

>> No.17636001

>>17634833
>morally superior because your life has consisted of nothing but "good parts"?
Never said that and it's not true in the slightest. I consider myself unlucky in many things and I tend to have a pessimistic outlook generally. It's just that disregarding the nice things in life is just as dishonest as pretending that everything's lovey-dovey all the time.

>> No.17636008

>>17630030
As a man, here are my observations:

What is most remarkable about people is not how bad they are, but that they have bad impulses, that rise up against their better nature. These impulses are always with us, so if you understand them, I think you understand everyone to some degree.

Women are exactly like men. Both have the same impulse towards destructive behaviour. Men have two reasons to be destructive; to shape their destiny and to feel powerful. This means hard drinking, gambling, getting into fights, and having sex with the wrong women. Later in life, it means climbing a ladder and face-planting and dying waiting for an ambulance, because fuck it and who wants to live if they have to wear diapers and wait for their kids to screw in a light-bulb? Such men are known to other, wiser men as loose-cannons, although all men are guilty to a greater or lesser degree, because nobody is so self-assured that they don't want to make sure that they can "hold their own" in a barfight, or in bed, or with too much liquor.

Women are really just like men, except that they are physically weak, and therefore they know that they can't win a fight, and can't drink harder than men. Therefore they admire the power of men and seek to manipulate men and make them do their bidding, because this makes them feel secure. This means that women are destructive through men. they do this both out of admiration and fear; they admire man's strength, and fear having no control over him. So they do different stupid things than man; they commit adultery in the hope that their husband will punch out their lover, or that their lover will punch out their husband, they convince men to prove themselves before other men, and later in life they gossip and turn people against each other, just to see them fight. Also they do constant shit-testing just to prove that you're loyal to her.

Such women are bad women, but every woman will have these impulses to a greater or lesser degree. Anna Karenina is a great example.

>> No.17636015

>>17635882
Thanks man, you're a genuinely good guy and you're right.

>> No.17636068

>>17635090
What he says about female friendships is mostly true though, women don't have friends, they have frenemies.

>> No.17636228

>>17636015
No he isn't right he's a hedonistic faggot and modern day hippie without any of the good sentiments. Don't sell yourself short on who you'll marry either anon, just continue to work on yourself and you'll end up with the girl that's right for you or you won't and you'll figure out how to be happy in some other way. Either way this love everyone bullshit will get you nowhere, why are you considering anything that comes out of the head of a guy who's main friend group is women, who he fucks sometimes when they both want easy casual sex. Pull yourself together man.

>> No.17636274

>>17635882
>they're just my friends, and they happen to be confortable enough around me to have casual sex with when we feel like it.
ALL casual sex is degenerate, for both women and men. If you have sex outside committed, long-term relationships you are directly contributing to the moral degradation of your own community and society at large.

>> No.17636305

>>17630054
Foids are eternal consumers. Nothing is enough. Give them more and they want more.

>> No.17636311

>>17630463
ywnbaw

>> No.17636335

>>17636228
He’s the typical effeminate faggot who always felt inadequate among men, so he surrounds himself with female “friends” and derives his sense of masculinity from the sexual “conquests” he had with women. This is what is is truly going on psychologically in him. He will never admit it though. As the other anon pointed out, he is not truly being genuine. Everything he says sounds copey and insincere.
It really shows how he is surrounded by girls because men will call out that bullshit.

>> No.17636353

>>17636008
I quit alcohol after seeing it ruin enough lives even if I think I'm perfectly fine with controlling myself while drunk and controlling my drinking.
I barely gamble and I don't do so with any amount of money that would make a difference in my life (unless you count crypto or stocks which I don't see as gambling).
I've gotten into pushing matches and heated arguments but I've always been bigger than the other person physically and the only guy who came close to fighting me was a manlet trying to show off for his girlfriend.
Finally, I don't sleep with low quality women.

Does this make me less of a man in your eyes or too controlled or what?

>> No.17636368

>>17636335
I agree completely. I've never met a man in my life that spent his time with women this way who wasn't gay or a complete loser just doing it because he thought it improved his social standing when it reduces it.
Can't wait for this thread to die and all of this larping nonsense to end.

>> No.17636438

>>17636368
>I've never met a man in my life that spent his time with women this way who wasn't gay or a complete loser just doing it because he thought it improved his social standing when it reduces it.
Not only that, they are also the biggest creeps. My sister pointed out to me once how all the men that have ever been touchy-feely with her and tried to get her to drink alcohol were effeminate men who have many female friends/hang out with girls all the time.
Case in point the last post in >>17631077
I do not trust effeminate men. Period.

>> No.17636455

>>17636353
I'm just making an observation of worst impulses, a caricature-sketch. I even write this bit quoted below in the hopes of being understood:
>These impulses are always with us, so if you understand them, I think you understand everyone to some degree.

>> No.17636486

>>17636353
You have self-control. That’s one of the pillars of masculinity. Every man respects a man who can dominate his own passions.

>> No.17636492

>>17636455
I got that anon, I was just wondering about your thoughts on what it means to overcome these impulses as some would see this as being less human but I see those who can't control themselves as such.

>> No.17636582
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17636582

>>17635137
oh boy you fucking wish, man

>> No.17636600

>>17636582
lol

>> No.17636611

>>17635189
I'm gonna break into your house tonight and piss on your face while you're asleep, but I'm gonna do it with a buddy. I'm having fun with my friend. Got a problem with that? Have sex incel, let people enjoy things.

>> No.17636621

>>17636008
Why did you post this twice? Are you so desperate for attention?

>> No.17636680

>>17636621
Take your meds anon, you're seeing things again

>> No.17636790

>>17636228
>>17636335
>>17636368
>>17636438
you guys seem like you are made for each other.

>> No.17636857

>>17630921
based

>> No.17636898

>>17636790
why are women like you incapable of understanding men

>> No.17636934

>>17634635
This is because you are weak and did not put her in her place

>> No.17636940

>>17636898
I'm a guy and mostly hate women. It's really funny how you guys are bitching about this single fucker, almost like jealous whores gosiping about stacy.