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What does the forbidden fruit symbolize? It’s usually taken to symbolize sex, but I’ve heard claims that it symbolizes some wacky shit the adoption of agriculture.

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>> No.17627637

It likely has inherent sexual connotations to the majority of people but depending on how it's used, it can mean anything.

>> No.17627707

>>17627625
>I’ve heard claims that it symbolizes some wacky shit the adoption of agriculture
This is way less wacky than it symbolizing sex.

>> No.17627717

In the bible it's knowledge of good and evil.

Meaning morality itself was the first transgression.

>> No.17627742
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>>17627625
The foreskin

>> No.17627769

>>17627707
How?

>> No.17627794

>>17627769
In the garden of Eden, Adam and Eve didn't have to work. When they get kicked out, they are cursed to "eat in the sweat of their brow." How are you not seeing this?

>> No.17627809

>>17627625
The allure of ontological independence?

>> No.17627956

Consciousness

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>>17627742
What? You wanna talk to the foreskin?

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>>17627625
The simple fruit symbolizes plenitude; its metaphysical analog —that of the tree of knowledge— contains the sap of wisdom; the fact that Ialdabaouth forbade to eat of it is not a factor to this.

>> No.17628959

>>17628613
>...[analogue]...

>> No.17628976

>>17627625
temptation and bad mistakes

women often misuse forbidden fruit to symbolize "something I want" completely forgetting the whole fall of man thing that came afterwards. Stephanie Meyer thought it meant "choice."

>> No.17630729

>>17627625
Eating the fruit elevated humans from animals to sapience. It is the fall because now, unlike animals, we live apart from the concordance of nature, and most importantly, construct our own values of good and evil, attempting to usurp God and put ourselves at the forefront of universal importance.

>> No.17631142

>>17627625
Consciousness...the moment eve took a bite she was doomed to know Death, so she tempted Adam so she would not be alone in Death.

>> No.17631147

>>17627625
Conciousness, fucking obviously.

>> No.17631150

>>17627625
Loss of innocence.

>> No.17631156

>>17627956
This. It's the biblical equivalent of the fire theft.

>> No.17631170

>>17627625
Some symbolist poet said that sexuality was the fruit of death on the tree of life.
Heard that self-consciousness was the fruit on the tree of knowledge of good and evil. But also heard that it was agriculture too, think it was an anarcho primitivist that said that.

>> No.17631204

>>17631170
Conciousness is fundamental for agriculture. The whole notion is planning for the future and thus understanding that there is a future.

>> No.17631209

>>17631204
This, not to mention that it is what allows for the knowledge of death.

>> No.17631216

>>17628613
>>17628959
Your posts aren't of high enough quality to warrant a trip, fag

>> No.17631320

>>17631170
Just remembered it might of been knowledge of the destructive power of sexuality that was the fruit of death on the tree of life. Not just sexuality itself.

>> No.17631344

>>17627625
No symbolism, it's literally the ingestion of Satan into the constitution of man

>> No.17631351

>>17630729
Man was created to be different from the animals, created in the image of God. Adam named the animals

>> No.17631352

>>17631344
They ate the snake egg?

>> No.17631356

>>17627625
The knowledge of good and evil, it's literally stated in the text. There is possibly a connection to sex as Adam and Eve become aware of their nakedness. Also, in the Epic of Gilgamesh, Enkidu becomes civilised by having sex with Shamhat.

>> No.17631359

>>17631356
The knowledge of good and evil is just consciousness.

>> No.17631516

>>17627956
>>17631142
>>17631147
>>17631204
>>17631359
Define "consciousness"

>> No.17631521

>>17631516
define define

>> No.17631534

>>17627625
Knowledge. Cunning, basically. They saw they were naked and they were ashamed, because they saw how they could exploit the other one to get their own desires, and that made them realize their own vulnerabilities. Very different from being a simple creature that merely accepts what is given to it.

>> No.17631542

>>17631516
Idk man go ask a fukken dictionary

>> No.17631547

>>17631359
No, it is not; consciousness pertains to the tree of life.

>> No.17631581

>>17631547
gonna cry?

>> No.17631600

>>17631547
Who, or what, then, was the serpent?