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17616486 No.17616486 [Reply] [Original]

When did you realize we're living in it?

>> No.17616489

a few days ago

>> No.17616540

Living what? A search for the meaning of justice?

>> No.17616544

>>17616540
In Plato's Republic.

>> No.17616603

>>17616544
nonsensical statement.

>> No.17616689

>>17616486
I wish we were living in it. Most politicians and soldiers only care for money, at least in Latam.

>> No.17616863

>>17616603
the shadow governments operate like how Plato's Republic is described

>> No.17616877

>>17616863
They operate much more like Aristotle's Oligarchy you giga-brainlet.

>> No.17616900

>>17616863
Not in any aspect at all you schizo. Go actually read the book. Besides, it's a metaphor for the human soul not an actual city-state dumbass.

>> No.17617103

>>17616540
He's probably referring to the breakup of the extended family unit and the attempt to normalize single motherhood, and probably his opinion that women's rights is a sort of eugenics program. Also the noble lie in Plato does line up suspiciously well with our current understanding of genetics. There is a lot of stuff in there that has direct analogy to the modern world.
>>17616900
>its a metaphor
I've never heard that take. I've heard that it was a satire which is possible, but I always figured he was being serious, because Aristotle addresses some of the policy recommendations in a serious manner in The Politics. And also because of his authoritarian attitude in Cristo. Anyways, why do you think it was a metaphor?

>> No.17617110

>>17616900
>it's a metaphor
No it isn't, stop coping. It was always taken literally

>> No.17617115

>>17617103
Crito*

>> No.17617124

>>17617103
>Anyways, why do you think it was a metaphor?
He literally says at the start.
>Lets view, on a city sized scale, a just state of being. This will show us, on the micro scale, what a just man looks like

>> No.17617134

>>17616486
>>17616489
A few months ago for me.

>women are in the work force
>wives are held in common
>children are raised by the state

>> No.17617143

>>17616900
>it's a metaphor for the human soul

I see this argument brought up here over and over again, but it seems like everybody from Aristotle to Bertrand Russel took it literally, not just 4chan retards.

>> No.17617176

>>17617124
I might have to reread, but I think he was trying to describe a just state in hopes that it would reveal the just man. Which means he was in fact trying to describe his ideal state. I think you are right that people overemphasize his political recommendations when that wasn't his ultimate goal, but I think he was serious.

>> No.17617192

>>17616900
>i-it's a metaphor a-anon
>that's why it doesn't make any sense