/sffg/ - Science fiction and Fantasy general

[Anonymous No.17608698]

"Sandro Cosplay" edition.

Previous Thread: >>17602797

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[Anonymous No.17608713]

>>17608698
First for "I would actually watch that Telenovela".

[Anonymous No.17608719]

I enjoy Bakker completely unironically.

[Anonymous No.17608722]

Fuck. E William Brown better publish two fucking books in 2021.

[Anonymous No.17608740]

I think Bakker SUCKS!!!

[Anonymous No.17608770]

What upcoming books are you looking forward to, /sffg/?

[Anonymous No.17608781]

>>17608770
Confirmed?

[Anonymous No.17608783]

OK Bakker, print out this meme, pin it to the wall, throw darts at it, and whatever they land on can be the plot for the sequels.

[Anonymous No.17608799]

[Anonymous No.17608808]

>>17608698
>Wolfechads in second place and gaining

[Anonymous No.17608809]

Robert E. Howard > J. R. R. Tolkien

[Anonymous No.17608837]

>>17608809
he was a RACIST

[Anonymous No.17608912]

>>17608809
Wrong.

[Anonymous No.17608937]

>>17608698
>All those fag authors
>No Zelazny
OP is an retard

[Anonymous No.17609026]

What's your desktop background or phone wallpaper /sffg/? I'm currently using pic related

[Anonymous No.17609043]

Children of Hurin. Very unironically what was Tolkien smoking?

[Anonymous No.17609047]

>>17609026
A hot elf on my phone because I'm a filthy phone poster. No bulli

[Anonymous No.17609061]

To what extent does Chorae undo magic and return the world to the state of God's creation?

It clearly protected from the heat given off by conjured fire, same with the concussive force of shockwaves from magical explosions
Which makes sense, as it's much more than simp anti-magic

But like, what would happen if someone dropped a regular boulder at you with magic?

[Anonymous No.17609086]

>>17608770
The No-God trilogy :,(

[Anonymous No.17609090]

>>17609086
>trilogy

[Anonymous No.17609092]

>>17609043
South Farthing's pipe-weed. The best weed of all the Shire.

[Anonymous No.17609103]

>>17609061
If someone dropped regular boulder at you with magic you are fucked.

Also threadly reminder to read Bakker. Start with The Darkness That Comes Before. The Second Apocalypse series is part of the /sffg/ canon. Not understanding Bakker memes renders you blind to most of the relevant discussion that goes on here.

[Anonymous No.17609147]

>>17609103
I feel like this chart is missing some Cishaurim representation. Maybe replace the Chorae with Meppa? but idk. I feel like Meppa would be more towards Salvation. Though it works because he would be on the same axis as Fanayal/the fanim rebel.

[Anonymous No.17609169]

>>17609061
It protects you from direct effects only, not indirect attacks. Akka collapses a building on a bunch of chorae guards in warrior prophet.

[Anonymous No.17609186]

>>17609026
This one

[Anonymous No.17609200]

>>17609103
I don't know about No-God being chaotic
nor the Chorae having any particular alignment

Judging Eye looked upon a Chorae, right? I can't properly recall. But I think it wasn't glowing damnation at her

[Anonymous No.17609221]

>>17609200
The Chorae should be dead center if anything. They're just tools without any intent of their own. The No-God may be similar depending of your interpretation.

[Anonymous No.17609234]

Does Bakker ever go into detail on the rules and functionality of his setting's magic?

[Anonymous No.17609244]

>>17609234
No, and thank God for that.

[Anonymous No.17609247]

>>17609026
This, but in all honesty I see my wallpaper so rarely that I often forget. My monitors are usually browser/discord on one and Steam on the other.

[Anonymous No.17609252]

>>17609221
>just tools
Yeah, but on one hand they seems pretty fucking damned considering who made them

On the other hand, they don't do anything evil. Rather the opposite by removing damnable magics.
Also, one was given out by a literal God, no qualms about it.

[Anonymous No.17609264]

duh, the alignment chart’s super inaccurate, but desu so are all the other charts for every other series. i also don’t really feel like spending hours to redo it, especially when everyone and their mother has a different opinion about who should go where. but i strongly encourage other anons to make their own OC and memes.
anyway i want to spend more time working on my novel than shilling for the aspect-author, especially since he seems so disinclined on giving his beloved readers anything more than the occasional obscure neuropsych shitpost.

[Anonymous No.17609293]

>>17609264
I'll probably add a thing to the chart, once I get the time.

[Anonymous No.17609301]

>>17608698
>the forever war
>[Spoiler]ends[/Spoiler]
btw it really bothers me when authors write shit like "no that's too complex for your brain to understand", nah bro you're just bad at explaining

[Anonymous No.17609321]

>>17609234
I was reading through the first book and a mage was getting all kinds of expository, so I was bracing myself for some Skyrim/Eragon crap, were the ancient words for 'Fire' starts a magical fire, etc. magic being that limited and structured on language

But then, that didn't really happen at all.

At the point were someone summoned a demon, and it started fucking them up, I was thoroughly happy about magic being messy enough, to be,, actual magic
As well as stuff clearly beyond the scope of that one wizards understanding of magic, his particular brand of magic is language based (right?), but that wasn't everything magical, at all

[Anonymous No.17609322]

>>17609301
>one day I'll learn how to use this website and it'll be glorious

[Anonymous No.17609331]

>>17609321
>Skyrim
Brother PLEASE do not get us started on Elder Scrolls lore.

[Anonymous No.17609339]

>>17609331
Who was in the wrong?

[Anonymous No.17609352]

>>17609339
The Stormcloaks, obviously.

[Anonymous No.17609354]

>>17609352
Based.

[Anonymous No.17609358]

>>17609339
Ulfric.

[Anonymous No.17609368]

>>17609331
>>17609339
>>17609352
>>17609354
>>17609358
>>>/v/
>>>reddit

[Anonymous No.17609373]

>>17609368
Huh?

[Anonymous No.17609390]

>>17609368
There are multiple Elder Scrolls Novellas.

Lick my anus.

[Anonymous No.17609407]

>>17609331
;(
I couldn't recall any more archetypical examples of magic being magic-words

[Anonymous No.17609413]

>>17609390
don't mind if I do

[Anonymous No.17609420]

It’s my dream to get Bakker to read my novel. The idea of being able to send it to him for his review keeps
me going. It’s good, it’s original, it’s
inspired, and I think he’ll enjoy it, or parts of it at least. 1500 words written this weekend.

[Anonymous No.17609423]

>>17609407
For what it's worth I only now realize you were referring to the Thu'um which is indeed "magic words", but also isn't the primary form of magic in the setting.
Could also apply to Sword-Singing, I suppose.

[Anonymous No.17609446]

What in the fuck even IS jnan? Clearly some form of etiquette, but what?

[Anonymous No.17609469]

>>17609446
Jnan is just some a form of "etiquette" that's used in the three seas mostly.

[Anonymous No.17609497]

Speaking of Elder Scrolls, what's your favourite lore book(s)?

[Anonymous No.17609516]

>>17609497
Probably barely counts but I enjoy both Beggar Prince and A Game At Dinner

[Anonymous No.17609643]

https://www.strawpoll.me/42645655/

https://www.strawpoll.me/42645655/

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https://www.strawpoll.me/42645655/

https://www.strawpoll.me/42645655/

VOTE VOTE VOTE

[Anonymous No.17609745]

>>17609643
Bakker-sama, I prostrate myself before you!

[Anonymous No.17609747]

>>17609643
Sanderbros, where are you?

[Anonymous No.17609770]

>>17609643
Holy shit, is Bakker this popular? I knew that he was a meme, but I wasn't aware of this.

[Anonymous No.17609783]

>>17609643
>500 votes
doubt

[Anonymous No.17609786]

>>17609783
Some sperg spammed this on multiple discords.

[Anonymous No.17609797]

>>17609770
of course not retard
he is still pretty popular though

[Anonymous No.17609799]

>>17609786
Bakker's fan club discord?

[Anonymous No.17609807]

>>17609783
heckin lurkarinos, and it's been going for like 5 threads at least by now

[Anonymous No.17609816]

>>17605301
true but it's also pre-napoleonic being used in 17th and 18th century and if i recall right there was maybe just England in that time on the eve of a proto-industrial revolution.
>>17602955
non-urban 19th/2th cent. seems cool actually. I've a vague idea concerning maybe supernatual stories set in Appalachia (Mignola I think wrote something inspired by those folktale), late western setting/late frontier, witches of some sort, dying natural magic users etc... .

[Anonymous No.17609819]

>>17609799
Also, but multiple others.

[Anonymous No.17609835]

>>17609497
I posted pic related previously, but my favourites are "The Ebon Arm" and "Five Songs of King Wulfharth".

[Anonymous No.17609856]

>>17609819
>>17609786
Then the poll’s integrity has been compromised and it should be abandoned. (I made the original poll btw) I inteded this poll to be for /sffg/ posters only (all 50-60 of us), and then lurkers voted, bringing the total to 184. It sat there for a few days before the spammer outsourced it to his discord trannies. Like
I said, it’s no longer reflective of our little club here on /sffg/.

Interestingly enough though, Bakker’s 30% majority has held steady, not changed up or down after the spammer got it.

[Anonymous No.17609867]

>>17609856
Make a new one then. But don't miss "any" author this time around. Too many people voted on other.

[Anonymous No.17609878]

>>17609867
You make it.

[Anonymous No.17609881]

>>17609878
No.

[Anonymous No.17609889]

What are the coolest megastructures in science fiction?
Pic is a dyson sphere

[Anonymous No.17609894]

Is the Dying Earth series good?

[Anonymous No.17609898]

>>17609889
The YraiD-Ym.

[Anonymous No.17609919]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B7qouhT-W4E

I bet this guy reads Bakker.

[Anonymous No.17609941]

>>17609894
yes

[Anonymous No.17609944]

>>17609894
Very

It's also an unusual read, if you are unfamiliar with older stuff. A novel experience for me.
Cugel's Saga is REALLY fun, some great humour in it

[Anonymous No.17609953]

>>17609889
The Halo ring is pretty cool.

[Anonymous No.17609968]

>>17609919
some might say it's the reverse

[Anonymous No.17610028]

Does it trouble you?

[Anonymous No.17610034]

Who has the most fleshed out technomancers

[Anonymous No.17610037]

>>17610028
YES, I NEED MORE ART!!!

[Anonymous No.17610071]

>>17609321
We only get vague descriptions of how it works. You have the imperial school, who’s magic works through metaphor (aka summon a dragon head to breath fire). The fanim sorcerers, which is based on channeling raw emotion. The gnosis, which is like speaking magical formula, and the more variables you add the stronger your magic becomes. But beyond those rough descriptions it never gets too much deeper than that.

[Anonymous No.17610073]

>>17610071
very simplistic and uneducated take

[Anonymous No.17610086]

>>17610073
>very simplistic and uneducated take
What did he mean by this?

[Anonymous No.17610097]

why can't i put an electric guitar in my fantasy book?

[Anonymous No.17610108]

>>17609953
Of every developer and filmmaker that loves to make SF, only Bungie really seems to respect scale. The Destiny games aren't particularly good but illustrate this extremely well.

[Anonymous No.17610109]

>>17609889
Alderson disks are fun if impractical.

[Anonymous No.17610110]

>>17610097
Write a fantasy book about a medieval knight who is transported to our time and thinks all the technology is evil sorcery

[Anonymous No.17610114]

>>17610110
>write an isekai

[Anonymous No.17610116]

>>17608808
Reading the Wizard Knight as we speak. It's a great book. Are there any more that are as easy to get lost into as this book?

[Anonymous No.17610118]

>>17610110
that's literally like 20 Hollywood movies

[Anonymous No.17610126]

Which Sci-Fi/Fantasy authors don't completely suck at politics?

It's becoming unbearable to read at this point.

[Anonymous No.17610128]

>>17610097
using electricity isnt exactly fantasy. you can make up an instrument thats basically the same thing though. i have a character in my story that has one, except the setting is in a dying earth type setting, so its more sci fi fantasy

[Anonymous No.17610130]

>>17610126
robert heinlein

[Anonymous No.17610132]

>>17610114
Should write a sword and planet story instead.

[Anonymous No.17610142]

>>17610118
Ya but you could write it from the Knights Pov and not make it obvious. Also the initial question was dumb so the answer was a swell

[Anonymous No.17610150]

>>17610126
>Which Sci-Fi/Fantasy authors don't completely suck at politics?

Philip K Dick. Become schizo-pilled and accept that Satan has placed a veil upon the world as we wait for the savior to be reborn as an alien child.

[Anonymous No.17610163]

>>17610128
>using electricity isnt exactly fantasy.
why not

what if it's electricity in a different way than we use it. Like they tap into an energy field which charges the shit. I understand that's dipping into tesla esque sci fi shit, but that sounds pretty magically to me

[Anonymous No.17610170]

Is Bakker a pedophile/ephebophile? He seems to have an uncomfortable fixation with every noble having a harem of young boys or teenage girls.

>>17610163
So what, using lightning magic as an electrical power source?

[Anonymous No.17610185]

>even with phonefags the IP count never exceeds 70 in these threads
>poll somehow has 500 votes
Seems legit.

[Anonymous No.17610195]

>>17610142
>Also the initial question was dumb so the answer was a swell
>a swell
fuck you

[Anonymous No.17610196]

>>17610185
It is legit.

Cope.

[Anonymous No.17610197]

>>17610110
this is so fucking reddit

[Anonymous No.17610200]

>>17610170
no

[Anonymous No.17610206]

>>17609889
mmh dunno if much used but i like the idea of synthetic artificial but otherwise perfectly habitable on the surface planets that are also like battlestations/ships (command, tunnels inside) or maybe true natural planet turned spaceship retaining all natural planet feature, portable alternate dimension where you put your planet and navigate space in it (so you're protected from the outer universe).

[Anonymous No.17610207]

>>17610170
>So what, using lightning magic as an electrical power source?
maybe. maybe there's just an ancient energy field from a lost ancient civilization that people tap into without knowing where it came from.

[Anonymous No.17610212]

>>17610196
Yeah, legit phonefagging. Seethe.

[Anonymous No.17610224]

>>17610207
>fantasy that's postpostapoc on a technicality
Anon, please.

[Anonymous No.17610227]

>>17610212
Are you taking a shit? Because you clearly changed to your phone.

[Anonymous No.17610233]

>>17610227
No, Skeletor.

[Anonymous No.17610242]

>>17610197
Giving a fuck what fags like you think is reddit

[Anonymous No.17610253]

>>17610224
yeah i guess

[Anonymous No.17610255]

>>17610207
on that note, i like the idea of a civilization that lost completely any technical knowledge and prowess and just benefit from its use in a completely unaware manner.

[Anonymous No.17610270]

>>17610233
y skeletor?

[Anonymous No.17610274]

>>17610233
Oh no no no no no

[Anonymous No.17610276]

>>17609321
EVERY instance of demon summoning in all the 7 books went wrong. No exceptions, to the point where I wonder why would mages even bother with summoning demons in the first place, knowing they'll get flayed and burned in tar for all eternity by THAT DEMON?
Bakker's demons are cool though (and all his monster types are cool if I'm being honest). I wonder if you could summon a demon and just talk with it about the nature of the Outside and what gods really are?

[Anonymous No.17610290]

>>17610276
I haven't finished the series, but the initial ones looked like desperate attempts to fuck everything up

[Anonymous No.17610292]

BAKEK

[Anonymous No.17610293]

>>17609953
never played Halo, but isn't that basically just Ringworld?

[Anonymous No.17610299]

>>17610292

[Anonymous No.17610307]

>>17610292
>Being this new

[Anonymous No.17610310]

>>17610307
baka desu senpai

[Anonymous No.17610313]

>>17610276
it's the opposite


>demon summoned to fight akka
it fights him and loses

>demon summoned to kill cisharium
it kills lots cisharium, think it dies eventually

>demons summoned to fuck up golgotterath
they fuck up golgotterath




and I don't think you could since demons find existance in the matieral world terribly painful

>No exceptions, to the point where I wonder why would mages even bother with summoning demons in the first place, knowing they'll get flayed and burned in tar for all eternity by THAT DEMON?

well if you are a sorceror you are damned anyway, does it really matter who is flaying you at that point?

[Anonymous No.17610321]

>>17610310
desune deska yamero

[Anonymous No.17610332]

>>17610292
Cuck

[Anonymous No.17610336]

>>17610332
Bakker's Cuckolding Report, loved by cucks worldwide.

[Anonymous No.17610343]

>>17610313
>well if you are a sorceror you are damned anyway, does it really matter who is flaying you at that point?
I'd rather be flayed by a literal who demon, than by a demon I used to control. Also all the Outside monsters seem to have personality, so it's not unrealistic to believe a demon who you controlled would be particularly hateful and cruel to you. I'm a coward, I'd try to get chummy with the Outside and suck their cocks so I don't get flayed for eternity. Or at least get flayed only a little UWU
That or
LITERALLY JOIN THE GODS DAMNED CONSULT

[Anonymous No.17610356]

>>17610293
It's a ringworld, yes. But with the added feature of exterminating any organic beings, within a certain radius, should worse comes to worst.

[Anonymous No.17610367]

>The professor had been stricken whilst returning from the Newport boat; falling suddenly, as witnesses said, after having been jostled by a nautical-looking negro who had come from one of the queer dark courts on the precipitous hillside which formed a short cut from the waterfront to the deceased’s home in Williams Street.

[Anonymous No.17610378]

Joining the Consult is unironically the best choice.

[Anonymous No.17610395]

>>17610356
now I want a story set on a giant handgun in space, settled by stranded nomads.

[Anonymous No.17610411]

>Sandersoys trying to read Bakker

[Anonymous No.17610418]

>>17610411
bacuck *but in caps*

[Anonymous No.17610423]

>>17610356
sg1 had similar things i remember

[Anonymous No.17610426]

>>17610418
Oh no no no no no no no...

[Anonymous No.17610434]

>>17610426
anough of this
have at you

[Anonymous No.17610439]

>>17610378
I'm angry and relived that Bakeque made the Consult so comically evil. Otherwise I see no fucking reason why you wouldn't join the Consult.
>good Consult
Imagine a world of 144.000 souls only, aided by souless bio-machinery. 144.000 is the size of a good nice city. Enough people to get by, enough resources for everyone, everyone lives a life of luxury, gets good education and life opportunities to pursue arts or sports or sciences or literature or philosophy or magic or anything else they want. The world is big, you might just as well go explore, or build a shack in the mountains and live the rest of your life as Leweth and his dogs.
And when you finally die of good, old age, surrounded by friends and family of humanity, you finally get rest

[Anonymous No.17610467]

>>17609898
What is this? I looked it up and found nothing

[Anonymous No.17610476]

>>17610467
>HE ACTUALLY FELL FOR IT

HOLY FUCKING SHIT, IMAGINE BEING YOU RIGHT NOW!!!!!!!!

[Anonymous No.17610485]

>>17610476
I hope your PP turns into an anthill.

[Anonymous No.17610493]

>>17610467
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1UtRnGn5hc

[None !SFFG.n1h7M No.17610511]

>>17608698
The Fifth Season, The Broken Earth #1 - N.K. Jemisin (2015)
If you're someone who needs each novel to have its own resolution, then you may have a problem with this. This is a single book split into three. The first book sets up the world and establishes the primary characters involved. As for the writing, I've seen several people express dissatisfaction with its usage of "you", but I thought that was fine. There's almost always something happening so there aren't really any dull moments or times where the story is lacking in action, but if you're looking for regularly occurring warfare, battles, or heroic combat, this isn't that. There are a few impressive demonstrations of magic in combat and otherwise though.
In terms of themes, anger and resentment are the foundational concepts upon which the entire narrative relies from start to finish. Oppression and injustice are primary concerns of several of the characters. Jemisin is very passionate, perhaps excessively so to the point of indiscrimination, about her beliefs in whichever medium she engages. How you feel about that may greatly impact your enjoyment.
This may be a grimdark dying earth series. It starts with a traumatic event and many more follow. Their civilization follows the cold equations of survival due to the precarity of their existence since at any time there could be a global catastrophe that wipes out everything they've built since the previous catastrophe and there have been many. One could reasonably argue that all of the characters are villains and that it's only a matter of scale depending on how many, how much, and how often they harm others.
Magic is inherent and biologically based. However, it can only be actively used by those whose magical organ is overdeveloped. Everyone else can only passively sense what is happening. The magic seems to be based on thermodynamics, where potential energy is drawn from a source, which decreases its temperature, to affect the target with kinetic energy. A few different ways to use it are shown, but overall it seems limited in application so far, at least compared to the typical magic system. This could be considered a moderately hard magic system, though Jemisin has a blog entry titled "But, but, but — WHY does magic have to make sense?" arguing against systematized magic, but that precedes this book by three years.
Its strongest point for me was its novelty. It isn't a standard science fantasy novel by any means. If you're looking for something relatively fresh, then you may be interested in this, as I found everything about it to be interesting. It certainly has left me wanting to know and read more.
I'll be reading rest of the trilogy, though I hope it doesn't go how I think it will. The rating is provisional based on whether my assumptions are correct. This would be rated higher, but what I speculate to be the overarching goal is utterly disagreeable and extremely corrosive to my enjoyment.
Rating: 3.5/5 (provisional)

[Anonymous No.17610514]

>>17610126
Jules Verne

[Anonymous No.17610526]

>>17610511
>As for the writing, I've seen several people express dissatisfaction with its usage of "you"
Hated this, it was good in the first few pages to establish emotional connection. No point in continuing with it.
Otherwise I liked it, but not enough to read the other books. It was a good 1 book but no more.

[Anonymous No.17610537]

>>17610467

[Anonymous No.17610540]

>>17610493
the fact that it's 4:3 trigger my nostalgia

[Anonymous No.17610559]

>>17610313
>>17610276
It was a forbidden art for a reason, desu

[Anonymous No.17610595]

>>17610126
In which sense?

In that their actual politics don't make you cringe or in that they portray believable and interesting polical intrigue and systems?

[Anonymous No.17610598]

Why don't we have a booktuber mascot?

[Anonymous No.17610619]

>>17610595
In the sense that I have to drop the book because the politics do not make sense, at all! Like author's that get themselves into political clusterfucks, but are incapable of dealing with them in a "realistic" manner. Sanderson comes to mind. Some of them outright ignore politics, which cheapens the books immensely.

[Anonymous No.17610621]

>>17610511
Liked this series initially, but less and less by each book
Making this cool world, only to shit it up with plot holes and clichés

Also, this book's take on oppression,, like, I was legit upset at the end

[Anonymous No.17610629]

>>17610598
tiene boobas?

[Anonymous No.17610646]

>>17610598
Kat is my mascot

[Anonymous No.17610660]

>>17610646
Did she review Bakker though? That's a pre-requisite.

In fact, I haven't seen a single female booktuber review Bakker with 4+ stars.

[Anonymous No.17610663]

>>17610343
>>17610378
The Outside is pliable. We should seek to harness it, not shy away from it.

Also, the Consult being so evil follows from the same selfishness that makes them willing to kill millions of people to save themselves. When they are so self-absorbed, empathy and things like that are bound to fade.

[Anonymous No.17610673]

>>17610526
There seems to be more reason than to establish emotional connection, which is mentioned at the end of the book, but I don't think it'll be fully known until the end of the trilogy.

>>17610621
I'm concerned this is how I'll feel as well.

[Anonymous No.17610676]

>>17610598
She looks like Frank from Hellraiser right before he gets pulled to pieces by all the hooks and chains.

[Anonymous No.17610728]

>>17610660
Yeah because he's shit.

[Anonymous No.17610735]

>>17610728

[Anonymous No.17610753]

What books series has the most satisfying ending in your opinion?

[Anonymous No.17610758]

>>17610753
My diary desu.

[Anonymous No.17610764]

>>17610753
Lord of the Rings is melancholically satisfying.

[Anonymous No.17610796]

redpill me on Mistborn

[Anonymous No.17610799]

>>17610753
Depends on the book and the story. For a typical cookie cutter happy ending I'd say Codex Alera fits that bill. All the main characters are alive, get their story arc resolution and have love interests, and the protagonist becomes the king or whatever and his tomboy barbarian gf becomes queen.

>>17610758
I agree. The part where you killed yourself was pretty satisfying.

[Anonymous No.17610801]

>>17610796
Depends. How high is your IQ?

[Anonymous No.17610810]

>>17610801
87

[Anonymous No.17610815]

>>17610810
You'll love it!

[Anonymous No.17610818]

>>17610439
bugman

[Anonymous No.17610827]

>>17610511
only good thing about this series was the pedo android and the slutty teenager

[Anonymous No.17610831]

>>17610336

[Anonymous No.17610860]

>>17610796
Comfy. I'll always associate Mistborn with one of the best periods of my life.

[Anonymous No.17610874]

>>17610860
So, is it YA?

[Anonymous No.17610878]

>>17610831
largemouth bassed

[Anonymous No.17610879]

>>17610831
low effort, the guy should be norsirai

[Anonymous No.17610885]

>>17610818
From a strictly hylic point of view, the Consult is an obvious choice.
However the metaphysics of Earwa make it very hard to side with the Gods.

[Anonymous No.17610886]

>>17610874
Yes, but worse.

[Anonymous No.17610904]

>>17610831
>>17610336
>Anime
>Cuckold obsession

[Anonymous No.17610908]

>>17610885
How shall I get a copy of the 1st book? None of my local bookstores have it

[Anonymous No.17610912]

>>17609889
The xeelee ring made out galaxies punching a hole in the universe is neat.

Vacuum diagrams has a weird planet, where the sky is also a planet, but both look like the other when looking from the surface of one another. It has some weird geometry going on.

Glitter Band in the revelation space series.

Pandora's Star Dyson Prison is very cool.

Matroska Brains in the Jean Le Flambeur series are very cool.

The Count to the Eschaton Sequence takes everything to the fucking extreme, Whole galaxy clusters act as one

In fact many sf books have very cool megastructures, it seems to be a staple of the genre.

[Anonymous No.17610930]

Reading Cradle, does the main character ever grow a spine? Every fucking time he interacts with someone he goes "gratitude, this one apologizes for..." and then proceeds to bow down like a fag.

[Anonymous No.17610931]

>>17610904
That's why Bacuck is based. He combines all the things that I love.

[Anonymous No.17610955]

>>17610930
He gets stronger but never loses the pussy attitude.

[Anonymous No.17610956]

>>17610908
book depository or amazon? abe books as well

[Anonymous No.17610959]

>>17610930
Better get used to it.

[Anonymous No.17610965]

>>17610930
not really

[Anonymous No.17610988]

How exactly do Skin-Spies work? Are they part of the body they claim to be? Do they construct their own bodies/have them constructed for them? Or do they kill someone and take their face?

[Anonymous No.17611006]

>>17610930
At the start of the series he does it because he's genuinely a weak piece of trash who nobody takes seriously so he has to grovel to get attention. Later on when he gets ridiculously strong it seems he does it just to mock people unless he's interacting with someone stronger than him in which case he does it for real.

[Anonymous No.17611010]

>>17610931
Sorry about impregnating your wife.

[Anonymous No.17611018]

>>17611010
Joke's on you, she has AIDS. I'm a cuck because it lets me spread her disease to non-whites.

[Anonymous No.17611026]

>>17610988
They have their own body, and they do not need to kill someone to use their face. Although there are instances of people dying without a face. I'm still on book 5 and that hasn't been fully explained yet.

[Anonymous No.17611056]

>>17611018
https://vocaroo.com/1bMEfIfYsGjV

[Anonymous No.17611058]

While we're on the topic, what are some fantasy protagonists that genuinely get cucked?

[Anonymous No.17611062]

>>17611026
I took that as removing the primary identifier from a corpse so that they may be more easily replaced.

[Anonymous No.17611072]

>>17611026
In that case what's the point of having a detachable face?

[Anonymous No.17611084]

>>17611062
>>17611072
>I took that as removing the primary identifier from a corpse so that they may be more easily replaced.
It might be, but since I haven't finished the series yet I was thinking that it might be a mechanism used by the Inchoroi

[Anonymous No.17611086]

>>17611056
Which is it? Am I a married cuck or a tranny with a festering wound?

[Anonymous No.17611092]

>>17611056
fucking gold

[Anonymous No.17611095]

>>17610988
how they are created is unknown, instead of a face they have muscles etc that can shift and shape themselves into a fake face.

They typically kill individuals in secret and then assume the disguise and replace that individual without anyone knowing, they probably mutilate the face of an hide the body of the victim so that nobody will be able to identify them and thus realise that prince number 10 is dead so what the hell is current prince number 10 (skinspy)

[Anonymous No.17611096]

>>17611062
Honestly I think the skin-spies simply enjoy the torture of skinning someone. They don't necessarily need someone's skin. Only appearance. However it might be easier for them to copy someone's face if the wear their face. But also remember that their masters wear human skins like clothes and they're all creations of decadence and horrid practices. Most likely they just like inflicting pain, nothing else.

[Anonymous No.17611098]

>>17611058
anon's diary desu

[Anonymous No.17611099]

>>17611010
Making me seethe with that image. That guy's self-respect has to be in the pits if pity sex keeps him going.

[Anonymous No.17611108]

>>17611010
Sad. He only got a chance because she needs someone to look after her and the baby long enough, for her to get back into shape and go back on the walking onahole market.

When the coochie is healed up and she loses the baby weight, he will get cucked. It's sad to see what men have to go through just to find some small slivers of happiness. Just like akka.

[Anonymous No.17611113]

they definitely don't need someone's face to transform as can be seen when


TTT spoilers
moeenghus kills "serwe" and another skin spy quickly replaces her and "serwe" (no2) helps cnauir bury "serwe"

or when skin spy imitates kellhus

[Anonymous No.17611129]

>>17611108
At least Akka redeemed himself

[Anonymous No.17611130]

>>17611010
this is pretty sad. I'll believe it's a joke. it's for the better.

[Anonymous No.17611134]

>>17611099
it's fake you oversensitive faggot. The real pic simply says I'm Dad, not the whole step shit that literal, actual nonironical incels made because that guy looks like le soijack meme
I fucking swear to god you guys are fucking souless. Just vaguely human shaped material goo

[Anonymous No.17611145]

Why are we so fast today?

[Anonymous No.17611152]

>>17611145
>Some one bring up Cuckoldery

Can't beat that. These incels simply cannot pass on that.

[Anonymous No.17611176]

>>17608698
What are some good writing/worldbuilding outline programs? I know WorldAnvil is bogus, what about Campfire? Is the Worldbuilding Pack worth it? What about Scrivener?

[Anonymous No.17611178]

akka hearing esmenet cum be like

[Anonymous No.17611181]

>>17611152
Rather be an incel than a cuck, Richard.

[Anonymous No.17611194]

>>17611176
just crack it bro

[Anonymous No.17611199]

>>17611178
This is actually so sad. God damn it man, Akka can't have a break.

[Anonymous No.17611201]

>>17611178
whore after all

[Anonymous No.17611210]

Where do new souls come from? How do they enter Eärwa – do they come from the Outside, or from the God Itself? We know that the No-God, in collapsing subject and object, rewrites the rules of existence. But how does this affect the ability of new souls to enter the World?

[Anonymous No.17611212]

>>17610411
I unironically finished Bakker before I knew who Sanderson was. Your argument is invalid.

[Anonymous No.17611213]

>>17611178
The people at Disney clearly have mental issues. Thank God I grew up watching Shrek.

[Anonymous No.17611231]

>>17611194
>just crack it bro
Is the Worldbuilding Pack able to be pirated then? If so, please direct me there? And anyway, the question was also about whether or not it was worth using at all, or would you recommend Scrivener or something else?

[Anonymous No.17611233]

>>17611210
who knows

>But how does this affect the ability of new souls to enter the World
they don't

[Anonymous No.17611243]

>>17611058
Achamian

[Anonymous No.17611245]

>>17610439
>MUH NUCLEAR FAMILY
>MUH SUPERIOR GENETICS
>YOU LITERALLY CAN'T ENJOY LIFE WITHOUT PROGENY REEEEEEEEEEEEE
It was a good dream.

[Anonymous No.17611248]

>>17611058
Kaladin

[Anonymous No.17611249]

>>17611178
That movie made me uneasy when I was a kid.
Now I'm older I realise why. Unrequited love. Chad walking in and stealing a girl you were pining for.

You do know that if the world ended, and they were the only people on an island, she would eventually fuck him.

[Anonymous No.17611252]

What are some lesser known mythological beasts I can turn into cute monster girls? There's a lot of good stuff in celtic folklore like selkies, but I know nothing about Chinese mythology. Are there any good monsters from Africa?

[Anonymous No.17611255]

>>17608698
I'm working on a fantasy story where imagination and creativity, and to a lesser degree willpower, are key aspects to the story and setting. I want to have the major characters, both male and female, and maybe even a villain or two, with names associated with that, but I cannot find any good names associated with those concepts, do you have any suggestions, or at least better places for me to look than where I have been? "Ace" is my best idea so far, but I'm not sold on it.

[Anonymous No.17611261]

>>17611212
Does it trouble you?

[Anonymous No.17611263]

>>17610598
Because spending time on youtube watching people pretend to be celebrities makes you an irredeemable faggot.

[Anonymous No.17611268]

>>17611255
women should be very weak in this universe assuming

>magination and creativity, and to a lesser degree willpower

correlates with power.

Joseph

[Anonymous No.17611269]

>>17611263
Sorry, but your mother is not a celebrity.

[Anonymous No.17611274]

>>17611268
>>17611233
brainlet takes and reddit spacing. go back, plebeian.

[Anonymous No.17611275]

>>17611269
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=89PKBpGm4bQ

[Anonymous No.17611289]

>>17611134
Well now you're seething so you can't really judge

[Anonymous No.17611295]

>>17610796
Probably the best thing Sanderson has finished. Good story, good characters, excellent window into greater cosmere lore if you stick out all 3 books. Highly enjoyable if you're not an effete literature snob who cares only for prose.

[Anonymous No.17611297]

>>17611268
>Joseph
Alright, thanks, that's one down, I just need at least a couple more for each gender and I can hold on for now.

[Anonymous No.17611306]

>>17610874
It's not written as YA, but it's acceptable for that audience as it's basically the equivalent of a PG-13 film.

[Anonymous No.17611315]

>>17611295
You need to be 18 to post here.

[Anonymous No.17611322]

>>17611306
So, it's basically a kids book?

[Anonymous No.17611328]

>>17611269
And, knowing this, you still play the irredeemable faggot watching her pretend on youtube? Helluva weird cope there chief.

[Anonymous No.17611332]

>>17611322
Yes. These people are the typical discord söys you'll se on gamming conventions. Mistborne is objectively terrible.

[Anonymous No.17611334]

>>17611231
i like campfire

also i bought it, i just assumed ii was an idiot for doing so and it was on piratebay or something. my bad.

[Anonymous No.17611336]

>>17611315
>not actually knowing the rules
Eat shit and go back.

[Anonymous No.17611340]

>>17611336
How old are you?

[Anonymous No.17611342]

>>17611252
selkie

[Anonymous No.17611343]

>amazon store only has the Book of the New Sun in compilation versions
>can either buy a 4-in-1 or two 2-in-1s
>no way to buy the individual books
I seethe hard

[Anonymous No.17611349]

>>17611332
>Mistborne is objectively terrible.
Why?

[Anonymous No.17611350]

>>17611343
Search on another amazon. (UK/CA/US etc...)

[Anonymous No.17611352]

>>17611340
I'm 18 :^)

[Anonymous No.17611354]

>>17611350
Ah, excellent, thanks anon

[Anonymous No.17611360]

>>17610126
Read Reverend Insanity. The only chinkshit that actually comes up with a believable and logical system of politics robust enough to drive the plot.

[Anonymous No.17611361]

>>17611352
Translation 14

[Anonymous No.17611365]

>>17611336
>>17611352
Imagine backpedaling this hard.

No wonder you enjoy Sandershit.

[Anonymous No.17611369]

>>17608837
Yeah. It helped make his writings even better for me.

[Anonymous No.17611370]

>>17611349
This is you average Sanderson prose. Read at your own peril.

[Anonymous No.17611374]

>>17609293
Here it is.

[Anonymous No.17611376]

>>17611365
>I literally don't know what backpedaling means
TROLLED HARD!

[Anonymous No.17611380]

>>17611376
I accept your surrender.

[Anonymous No.17611385]

>>17611370
>I don't know what the word average means
>I'm a pretentious prosefag
Hugely embarrassing.

[Anonymous No.17611391]

>>17610796
I thought it was decent, but the last book made me hate Sanderson and never read anything he wrote ever again. It tuns out, after an ENTIRE SERIES that all the plotholes, narrative bullshit, poor characterization, etc... were INTENTIONAL and actually WERE bullshit. The prophesies were being rewritten by the villains, who also brainwashed and mind controlled several of the characters including the MC. Which is a great TWEEST, but only at the cost of SUCCESSFULLY tricking me into thinking the story was shit and made no sense. The literary equivalent of "IT'S JUST A PRANK BRO!"

[Anonymous No.17611394]

>>17611380
>I literally have autism
I know.

[Anonymous No.17611401]

>>17610796
Sanderson, according to a reputable member of his own community.

[Anonymous No.17611404]

>>17611391
>filtered by sandershit
Literally everything is tied up into a nice neat package that all made sense by the end, what are you even complaining about?

[Anonymous No.17611406]

This thread has inspired me to write cuck fantasy. Thank you anons for fueling me with your endless autism.

[Anonymous No.17611414]

>>17611404
>>17611394
>>17611385

[Anonymous No.17611415]

>>17611401
>only actual complaint about his writing is it's "serviceable"
Why do you repost this perpetually? It's not even that damning.

[Anonymous No.17611417]

>>17611255
>I'm writing a story about imagination and creativity
>I can't think of any names
How ironic.

[Anonymous No.17611423]

>>17611414
Nice comeback, now try being original for once. Or can you not overcome your autism long enough to stop shitposting from your folder and have an original thought?

[Anonymous No.17611425]

Daily reminder to ignore the Sandersoy threads.

It actually admitted to spend 1k on Sandershit.

[Anonymous No.17611427]

>>17611401
that's hilarious

[Anonymous No.17611429]

>>17611026
I think they just cut those people's faces off so the bodies couldn't be identified. There can't be two people with the same face and name walking around.

[Anonymous No.17611431]

>>17611423
Does it trouble you?

[Anonymous No.17611432]

>go on reddit writing feedbacks subs to get an idea for what im competing against

>people posting stuff with obvious grammatical errors in the first line

looks like im gonna make it

[Anonymous No.17611435]

Fellas, does anyone else get the struggle of picking up the next book after finishing one? I just finished Darkness That Comes Before and while I'm extremely invested in it and have already purchased Warrior Prophet, the thought of immediately starting it feels almost exhausting.

[Anonymous No.17611439]

Where have you gone, Father? Without you, your Zaudunyani are distraught, derelict; and the Thread falls to threshing madness.

Father, do you like the memes I've made in your honour? I truly hope you do, and I hope they have boosted your book sales to some. small extent. Please name a scene from the books and I'll meme it with exquisite care.

[Anonymous No.17611440]

>>17611401
>3.5k posts
>Going full "it's actually trash" mode

Jesus, his fan-base is irredeemably autistic.

[Anonymous No.17611441]

>>17611425
Sandersoy can be ignored. Bacuck can't. Bacuck has a legion of active shitposters. Or one troubled individual.

[Anonymous No.17611443]

>>17611435
yeah i switch from series to series. after i finish the darkness that comes before ill probably read oathbringer

[Anonymous No.17611448]

>>17611425
No, I called you retarded and asked how anyone could possibly spend $1000+ on cosmere books when I put in $250 for those. You never did have a good answer for this elaborate fantasy you can't stop imagining. Again, if I were a woman I'd be worried about cyberstalking, but I almost want to see your ass start some shit IRL just for a change of pace.

[Anonymous No.17611451]

>>17611448

[Anonymous No.17611453]

>>17611431
>>17611423

[Anonymous No.17611455]

>>17611435
I recommend reading the entire Prince of Nothing trilogy back-to-back, then taking a break to cleanse your palate, then reading the Aspect-Emperor series.

[Anonymous No.17611460]

>>17611448
>I put in $250 for those

[Anonymous No.17611461]

>>17611210
It appears souls are projections of specific neurological structures on the Outside. Sranc and skin-spies have special brains.

[Anonymous No.17611466]

>>17611451
>more keyboard warrior shit-talk memes
I'll be waiting for you.

[Anonymous No.17611478]

>>17610116
You lucky stiff, that's his worst book.

[Anonymous No.17611479]

>>17611466
>I'll be waiting for you.

Jeez, can we slow down on the cringe?

[Anonymous No.17611490]

>>17611479
I'm getting more of a seared bite on the Impossible Whopper, than I'm getting on the actual-

[Anonymous No.17611493]

>>17611448
>He actually spent 1000$ on Sandaro

How is that even possible?

[Anonymous No.17611509]

>>17611493
I didn't. It's not. It's $250 for a pair of leather bounds and almost as much in various physical copies of other Sanderson books. Some people just have brainworms.

[Anonymous No.17611527]

>>17611461
>specific neurological structures on the Outside
Elaborate, please

Eärwa's metaphysics have a strongly Gnostic character. The ciphrang and Gods, essentially archons, can be interpreted as fragments of the God-of-Gods (what another anon calls the Zero-God). In keeping with this Gnostic reading I would like to think that the souls of Men and Nonmen were likewise smaller fragments of the God, embodied in flesh and. trapped in the prison of the Objective (ie. the World).
>The World is a granary, and our souls are the wheat.
This is identical to David Lynch's description of the world as a convenience store for the powers outside.

[Anonymous No.17611528]

>>17611425
Well, at least I found a new use for these.

[Anonymous No.17611535]

>>17611490
Shut the fuck up /ck/

[Anonymous No.17611536]

>>17611334
>i like campfire
Do you have the Worldbuilding Pack as well? What do you think about it?

[Anonymous No.17611543]

>>17611536
>Worldbuilding Pack
no

[Anonymous No.17611548]

>>17611528
>new
>use
This is at least the 5th time you've reposted this in fewer days and I don't see your trash being used for anything. Still.
>ESL in charge of trolling

[Anonymous No.17611549]

>>17611528
Yes, I too roll torn pages and insert them into my urethra.

[Anonymous No.17611572]

>>17611548
>and I don't see your trash being used for anything. Still.
Do you want me to take a shit on it?

[Anonymous No.17611585]

>>17611549
You do? That's fucking disgusting. I only use them to wipe my ass.

[Anonymous No.17611587]

>>17611585
Obviously I put them in my urethra AFTER wiping my ass.

[Anonymous No.17611614]

We should do science fiction and fantasy generals separately

[Anonymous No.17611617]

>>17611614
I can't tell you how many times people have said this. Go and do your own science fiction general then.

It will die before it even reaches 50 replies. People have attempted that before.

[Anonymous No.17611624]

>>17611614
>>17611617
for that matter why the fuck is speculative fiction a separate general

[Anonymous No.17611631]

>>17611543
>no
Why not?

[Anonymous No.17611632]

>>17611624
It's just a bunch of retarded losers that can't use filters. That thing is never gonna make it.

[Anonymous No.17611635]

>>17611631
No as in I don't have it

[Anonymous No.17611639]

>>17611617
Don't challenge me, I'll do it right now

[Anonymous No.17611655]

>>17611624
Make a thread for whatever you're reading. Guaranteed to find better discussion there, and also suggestions based on the topic. General threads always attract supreme autists that eventually destroy everything.

[Anonymous No.17611661]

Damn, even reading Unsong isn't giving me much inspiration. What else can I read to loosen my juices?

[Anonymous No.17611663]

>>17611527
Big Moe vivissected skin-spies and the Dunyain dissected Sranc. Of the Sranc it's told their brains don't have the parts required for self-reflection. Meanwhile, skin-spies cannot grasp paradoxes which is a common trope for robots and AIs.

Now, it's pretty clear that Sranc and skin-spies are in fact inteligent, sensitive creatures, because the narration describes their sensations and thoughts. So it can't be subjectivity that makes the soul, or these weapon races would have souls too.

As for the GOD, he doesn't seem to particularly care one way or the other. Being a completely self-moving soul, as the Dunyain would say, His fragments, if any, can't be said to be trapped *against* His will because he can't be conditioned by something external to Himself without invalidating the proposition that He is a self-moving soul.

[Anonymous No.17611665]

>>17611614
We need a general for things I like and a ban on things i don't like

[Anonymous No.17611690]

>>17611572
Do... Do you wanna take a shit on it?

[Anonymous No.17611696]

>>17611572
>>17611690
>Let's discuss the shit between us.

[Anonymous No.17611700]

>>17611665
They're called subreddits

[Anonymous No.17611704]

>>17611614
is this a meme now?

[Anonymous No.17611727]

>>17611704
I mean, on an imageboard full of spoiled manchildren who are also literal fascists, you'd get a lot of milage

[Anonymous No.17611739]

>>17611735
>>17611735
>>17611735
>>17611735
>>17611735

[Anonymous No.17611744]

>>17611727
Faggot wtf I am not a fascist at all..
also, that behavior is natural like water

[Anonymous No.17611856]

>>17608698
I just realized I've never read any of the fantasy books aimed a adults; I've only been reading ya books all my life - such as Percy Jackson, Harry Potter, Dresden Files, Mistborn, Visual Novels, manga, and a plethora of chinese and japanese light or webnovels.
If I wanted to read something with more substance or depth, something aimed at adults, where should start? And please don't day Tolkein, I hate his shit

[Anonymous No.17611867]

>>17611856