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[Anonymous No.17602558]

Holy shit

[Anonymous No.17602565]

Well they ain't wrong you know...

[Anonymous No.17602574]

>>17602558
Based. Antinatalism is the only truly moral stance. You have no right to make someone else exist

[Anonymous No.17602580]

The lizard's ancestors are the cause of its being hunted.
—Abul ʿAla Al-Maʿarri

[Anonymous No.17602593]

>>17602580
Get you muizze shit out of here shill

[Anonymous No.17602616]

>>17602558
Based. If you're so miserable that you hold antinatalist believes, you should actually don't have any children. Not that you would have the chance anyways

[Anonymous No.17602621]

Antinatalists are low caste, high IQ.

[Anonymous No.17602628]

>>17602574
You don't know what moral means. But yes, antinatalism is pretty emphatic with human suffering.
Anyway, if you don't reproduce, retards will, and our whole evolution will be in vain. I preffer an entire race of evil virtuosity, than a race of good degeneracy.

[Anonymous No.17602631]

>>17602616
>Bro alot of people suffer, I don't thinks is moral to put another life on the line
>Lol you're a miserable bro you won't have sex incel antinatalist just

Woah... Such the power of the breeder logic

[Anonymous No.17602643]

>>17602628
Bro, you will be dead the nigger and retards overrun the earth, and, if you're smart, you won't put a child to live through this hell.

[Anonymous No.17602651]

>>17602628
It's emphatically clear you don't know what moral means either

[Anonymous No.17602661]

>>17602628
evolution is a spook

[Anonymous No.17602669]

>muh morals motherfucker

Bet you won't say morals when your child will get sick and died.

[Anonymous No.17602676]

>>17602643
You clearly have no intellectual background. You are talking about "goodness", or kindness, making it equivalent to "intelligence". It doesn't work like that. Jews are pretty intelligent and are one of the most vicious and evil cultures on history. Antinatalism has nothing to do with "being smart", or intelligent, it is pure vulgarity.

[Anonymous No.17602680]

>>17602661
Evolution its cope.


>>17602676
>The joooss bro

[Anonymous No.17602692]

>>17602676
Also, this is a generalized problem amongst antinatalists: most of them are illiterate and write with the intellectual abstraction a third world catholic priest would write.

[Anonymous No.17602694]

>>17602676
Clearly you a /pol/tard that think that know shit, read more, midwit

[Anonymous No.17602703]

>>17602631
>>Bro alot of people love being alive, I want to share my joy with my loving partner and bring another life in this wonderful world
>>Lol you're a selfish asshole why won't you be so miserable like I am

[Anonymous No.17602704]

>>17602680
>implying jewish culture isn't deceitful
What I said has nothing to do with nazi antisemitism.

[Anonymous No.17602706]

>>17602558
>"NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO YOU CAN'T HAVE CHILDREN, W-WHAT IF THEY GET UPSET EVERY NOW AND AGAIN? D-DON'T YOU KNOW THAT EXPERIENCING ANYTHING AT ALL THAT FALLS OUTSIDE THE BINARY CLASSIFICATION OF "GOOD" IS LITERALLY A FATE WORSE THAN DEATH?!?"
My life is pretty shit but I am glad to have it. This is because, since my life is shit, I know what it feels like for life to be shit and realise that it's not a big deal. Spoiled upper middle class coward (antinatalists) on the other hand, feel that the world is ending as soon as they prick their finger. Read something like "Road to Wigan Pier", see how fucking shit life can be and then realise that people not only thrive in such base conditions, but can even be quite happy and utterly unwilling to relinquish the little that they do have.
Tbh I just wish all the antinatalist retards and shills would follow their own principles and relieve us from their company. Unfortunately, as I said, they are generally overly sensitive cowards, so they prefer to whine and hog attention rather than "end their suffering".

[Anonymous No.17602707]

>>17602692
Then, my dear anon, give one good arguments against antinatalist besides "kek, killuself sad nigger" that people generally give.

[Anonymous No.17602724]

>>17602706
You know, just because you endured living a shitty life, you don't know if you child would enjoy it, you don't have a crystal ball to know, well, you are just gambling with your child's life and, from my point of view it make you look very evil and pretty dumb.

[Anonymous No.17602731]

>>17602707
>human reproduction is extramoral
>human material life can't be measured by happiness, but by creativity and production
>nature is antitheleological
>life means nothing on natural scales, because nature works with agency, which inorganic matter can supply
I could go on, but most of it is about the philosophical consitency lack of antinatalism.

[Anonymous No.17602730]

>>17602704
So you can say about muslim culture, indian culture, stop being selective midwit

[Anonymous No.17602744]

mfw a birther tries to tell me i'm "acting unreasonable" and forces his normalfag morality on me

[Anonymous No.17602746]

>>17602730
>So you can say about muslim culture, indian culture, stop being selective midwit
No, because jews are the smarter amongst the cultural religions in the west. I didn't choose them because they are jews, but because of the intelligence/godness confusion.

[Anonymous No.17602764]

>>17602746
>Jew are smart at outcompeting other ethnicity and dominant thing that ensure their ethnicity survival at the cost of another races

Sounds reasonable and pretty based.

[Anonymous No.17602766]

>>17602744
You cant breed, you are an incel, not an antinatalist.

[Anonymous No.17602771]

>>17602731
>Human life is measuring by consooming and working

Holy shit

[Anonymous No.17602772]

>>17602724
Well from my point of view you are a gay nerd and I really couldn't care less what you think.
>"Oh nooo, but what if your child can't handle experiencing BOTH the good AND the bad parts of life, like literally every other conscious being on earth?"
Then he can fucking rope. The exit button is one noose away. People choose for how long they stay on this Earth on their own.

[Anonymous No.17602783]

>>17602771
>creativity and productivity = consooming and working
What? This is just worthless, antinatalists are truly ignorant and mentally handicaped. I'm leaving, have fun talking about stuff you don't know.

[Anonymous No.17602787]

>>17602772
Top tier father, is this type of people that will put 6 children on this world. Truly the human pinnacle

[Anonymous No.17602793]

>>17602772
>F-from my point you are GAY!
>MY CHILD CEN FUCK KILL HIMSELF

Nice parents you're going to be anon.

[Anonymous No.17602831]

[Anonymous No.17602866]

>>17602787
In the same breath that you proclaim human beings are too pathetic to continue to exist - presumably extrapolating from your own experience - you condescend towards those who manage well by implying they are a lower, cruder sort and therefore inferior. The irony is not lost.
Here's the thing, fren. You can't save everyone. You can't carry everyone on your back. Some people are born pathetic, raised pathetic, identify as pathetic, live pathetic lives and die a pathetic death. These people are always miserable regardless of their circumstances, they always complain, they whine, they whinge, they cry and speak their mouths off denouncing life and destiny. These people are worthless. No matter how hard you try to save them, they will ruin themselves, be it with suicide or otherwise. If my child, by some chance, turns out to be like this, then what am I supposed to do, other than give them the liberty of choice over their own life, which in the first place I have no right or capacity to deny anyone? I have dealt with people like this already. I can't fix them. They don't want to fix themselves. All you can do is let them be the way they like to be - miserable, high off their minds or dead. I am not going to live my life half heartedly just because a bunch of you guys are worthless cowards who can't deal with their own feelings. My way is forward. Your way is a dead end. Do as you like, but at least have the decency to cease your bitching.

[Anonymous No.17602885]

>>17602793
>"nooooooooooo life is too hard, you can't bring people into this world, what if it makes them want to die!"
>"then they can die...?"
>"NOOOOOOOOO OH MY GOD YOU D-DIDN'T JUST SAY THAT OH MY GOD NOOOOOOOOOOOO"

[Anonymous No.17602896]

Any person who is serious about antinatalism is unable to breed in the first place.

[Anonymous No.17602906]

>>17602885
>>17602866

Sound coping as fuck, you don't have children to know the pain of loss, at bet you both are underage midwits that thinks that life is fucking happy ride all the time.

[Anonymous No.17602912]

>>17602896
>y-you d-don't have s-sex! you are an incel antinatalist coper!


Nice one there, friend, why are you assuming that antinatalist are incel? Why the projection?

[Anonymous No.17602944]

>>17602906
>muh pain of loss
I am not saying losing a close one would be painless, you fucking retard, my point in the first place is that there are both painful and pleasant things in life and neither of those are "bad". You can experience pain without roping yourself. In fact, it's REALLY easy. You have to actively go out of your way to be a bitch in order to rope.

[Anonymous No.17602954]

>>17602912
By proxy they more or less are.

[Anonymous No.17603098]

>>17602896
>>17602766
Basically this.

[Anonymous No.17603162]

>>17602744
>NOOOOO YOU CANT JUST FORCE YOUR MORALITY ON ME
>ONLY I CAN FORCE MY MORALITY ON OTHERS

[Anonymous No.17603171]

>>17602574
>right

[Anonymous No.17603352]

>>17603162
don't have sex

[Anonymous No.17603870]

Bump

[Anonymous No.17603888]

>What do I care for your suffering? Pain, even agony, is merely information before the senses. Data put into the computer of the mind.
Has not been refuted to this day.

[Anonymous No.17603893]

>>17603888
What?

[Anonymous No.17603903]

>>17602896
Yeah I sterilized myself

[Anonymous No.17603922]

>>17602558
the hebrews are responsible for this

[Anonymous No.17603928]

>>17602616
based
kinda hurts

[Anonymous No.17603959]

These people who act out of insurmountable faggotry never understood the prospect that death and suffering is what gives life and hope any form of meaning. How can someone unborn love you without knowing what life is like without you?

[Anonymous No.17604005]

>>17603893
Antinatalism is a hedonistic philosophy which assumes that all pain is bad and then argues from there. But far from calling either suffering and pleasure absolutely good or bad, they are not even worth considering besides pragmatically. That is to say, pain and pleasure are only good or bad incidently, in view of their consequences, rather than in themselves. There are some examples, of course; exercise and study is commonly considered a type of suffering, yet those activities are still evaluated as worthwhile for the acquisition of strength and knowledge, respectively. This can be applied to all forms of suffering, and even to pleasure too. So in the end, all observations of suffering are as relevant as saying 'the chair is red'. Merely information for the mind.

[Anonymous No.17604013]

>sexual dysfunction listed among life's greatest sufferings
anti-natalists can't help themselves

[Anonymous No.17604028]

>>17602558
The problem isn't people having children, the problem is people having children they're not willing to put a lick of work into raising. The big true is that most fathers are absent as shit because they get hounded by the mothers, and once the honeymoon period of 'oh my gosh chubby baby' wears off she checks out too. Lazy parenting is a social ill.

[Anonymous No.17604079]

>>17604005
What benefit is there to suffering? Stop trying to sound like you are intelligent you just come off as being stupid

[Anonymous No.17604091]

>>17604005
to loneliness*

[Anonymous No.17604118]

>>17602580
Based

[Anonymous No.17604130]

>>17604079
There are as many benefits of suffering as there are detriments of suffering - nothing beyond itself.

[Anonymous No.17604154]

>>17604130
I mean what benefit is there to loneliness?

[Anonymous No.17604171]

>>17604079
>>17604154
To better your situation, whether through internalizing your character or externalizing into action.

[Anonymous No.17604173]

>>17602558
But having kids eliminates a good deal of MY suffering by giving me a child to raise and mold and I get sex and a sense of dynastic accomplishment and save my line from ending. My suffering is lessoned and that's what matters. The kids can get used to this life or an hero after I'm dead but they better breed first or I will haunt them and beat their ass if possible.

[Anonymous No.17604187]

>>17602706
>Road to Wigan Pier
Cringe. Read a book about some real suffering, like Jean Amery's At the Mind's Limits. Or maybe just visit your local abattoir.

[Anonymous No.17604196]

>>17604154
Loneliness is not an activity but a state, much like sickness and ignorance. To answer your question, there is nothing positive about it; even Nietzsche's Zarathustra was tired of his loneliness, hence why he sought fellow creators.

[Anonymous No.17604200]

>Antinatalists are so cringe bro
>The stoics? The Buddhists? I love those guys!

[Anonymous No.17604421]

>>17602730
Not really, Islam supports a whole civilization. It doesn't have the Jews' parasitic modus vivendi