/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.17601011]

What are some ridiculously overpriced and hard-to-find books?
Sun and Steel comes to mind, it can cost between $40-$400 for an English language version, despite being a hundred page essay.
The Art Forgers Handbook costs over a grand for a new hardcover, softcover used editions are $300 a piece.
Anyone else know of any books like this? It blows my mind that in the days of mass printing these books can cost so much money.

[Anonymous No.17601022]

>>17601011
I got it from my university library. Didn’t realize it was this hard to get.

[Anonymous No.17601029]

>>17601011
You can get it for a normal price from one of those dissident publishers

[https://youtu.be/mOYZaiDZ7BM No.17601047]

>>17601011
Take the moneys you'd pay for this and buy as much yasunari kawabata as you can with it instead
You'll thank me

[Anonymous No.17601067]

Of Cosmogonic Eros

[Anonymous No.17601075]

>Mishima touted as some kind of fascist role model
>pick up one of his more famous works
>opening describes how his self insert wanted to be a beautiful twink, then a female noh performer, going so far as to break into his mother's closet to try on her kimono and makeup
I don't get this, he's supposed to be like a trad overman or something? sounds like repressed trans to me

[Anonymous No.17601076]

>>17601029
I doubt that, they'd get shut down fast making risks like that.
Been seriously contemplating printing a run of textbooks and selling them outside my local uni.

>>17601047
I only buy books for the meme value and to resell them at a mark-up once I own all the copies on the market.

[Anonymous No.17601102]

>>17601067
Small run art publishing doesn't count. Those guys probably stitched the book together by hand and are selling it at cost

[Anonymous No.17601149]

>>17601076
>I doubt that, they'd get shut down fast making risks like that.
That's why I didn't mention their name but look and ye shall find, I think I got my cope for 12 or 15 and it's normal quality.

[Anonymous No.17601154]

>>17601149
>I got my cope
copy kek

[Anonymous No.17601157]

>>17601011
I downloaded it as a pdf and printed it out using the printer from my job lel

[Anonymous No.17601187]

>>17601011
just get the ebook

[Anonymous No.17601192]

>>17601075
A lot of /pol/ people love authors that can just be loosely considered “far right”. Case in point is Julius Evola. He’s loved by the dissident right. Yet, if you actually read him as a /pol/ or alt-right type person you’d inevitably find that he’s totally at odds with your thinking. Mishima is the same. The thing is that a large swathe of fascism is simply reactionary. It’s become a catch all term for anyone to the right of classical liberalism, repressed and latent homosexuality or not.

[Anonymous No.17601211]

>>17601149
based

[Anonymous No.17601253]

>>17601011
Why is it so expensive? Can’t even find a used one?
>>17601029
Link?

[Anonymous No.17601258]

>>17601192
I suppose that's why Eco characterizes fascism as a colorless totalitarianism. In what other kind of political system would they so fiercely demarcate their adversaries yet take in all and sundry

[Anonymous No.17601357]

>>17601011
Print it out at your school/job. My uni just lets you print anything for free 24/7

[Anonymous No.17601364]

>>17601075
Have you seen the kinds of people who post about Mishima on /pol/ and /fit/? I wouldn't even call them repressed.

[Anonymous No.17601399]

>>17601253
It hasn't been in print for something like 20 years.

[Anonymous No.17601427]

>>17601192
Fascism is worse than reactionary. While reactionaries seek return to a history that once existed, fascists mythologize a past that never was, and ironically it tends to destroy whatever residual culture it touches.

[Anonymous No.17601493]

>>17601427
Fascism is a modernist movement at its heart. Ironically the first fascists hated what the movement turned into after Mussolini started appealing to the Conservatives and Monarchists.

[Anonymous No.17601686]

>>17601258
>>17601427
wtf I'm a liberal now

[https://youtu.be/Ofn2A1p13Sg No.17601793]

>>17601011
I think lupercal by ted hughes is now. I got it on amazon for 20 dollars but the seller never sent it and last time i checked the same version was priced at 700 bucks

[Anonymous No.17601985]

>>17601011
Pirate the pdf and print it at your local library. No excuses.

[Anonymous No.17601994]

>>17601011
Just download the epub.

[Anonymous No.17602173]

Why isn't there any fanfic of Mishima getting railled? I need it for cooming purposes.

[Anonymous No.17602230]

>>17601011
Mike Hoare’s book was a few hundred dollars when searched in the past, but it’s not even available on Amazon now.

[Anonymous No.17602815]

>>17601075
>wants to be a woman
>committed suicide
Checks out

[Anonymous No.17603343]

>>17602230
>Thomas Michael Hoare (17 March 1919 – 2 February 2020[1]), known as Mad Mike Hoare, was a British mercenary leader and adventurer known for his military activities in Africa and attempt to conduct a coup d'état in the Seychelles.[2]
lmao what a nut

[Anonymous No.17603513]

>>17601011
I read The Machiavellians from my Uni's library. Paying the $150ish fee for a lost book (stealing it) would still be cheaper than buying it.

[Anonymous No.17603837]

>>17601075
mishima wasnt a fascist dumbo

[Anonymous No.17603885]

>>17603837
basically he was, just a different flavour of fascism

[Anonymous No.17605404]

>>17601011
Czech translation of Mishima's Temple of Golden Pavilion, I saw it only once and the seller wanted about 250 dollars for it. Only chance of getting is by stumbling upon someone who doesn't know it's price, however these people usually don't sell their old books and just keep pile of them somewhere in box.

[Anonymous No.17605486]

>>17601011
not surprising any heterodox literature can have its rights squatted on for a long time

[Anonymous No.17605490]

>>17601011
The Consumer

[Anonymous No.17605502]

>>17603885
monarchy is fascism leftoid brainlets are embarrassing

[Anonymous No.17605515]

>>17601075
You're saying it like being a fascist and being trans are not compatible
Ernst Röhm was gay and he was even more fascist than Hitler himself

[Anonymous No.17605779]

>>17601102
Yes. No small publisher is making much profit on hardcovers. And Theion was selling it for only $50 if you pre-ordered it.

[Anonymous No.17605920]

>>17601075
Most writers who are considered /pol/ memes (Jünger, Evola, Mishima, etc.) are united by this overarching theme of dealing with mechanization and modernity a lot more than they are united by espousing any particular brand of politics.

[Anonymous No.17606191]

>>17601427
>fascists mythologize a past that never was, and ironically it tends to destroy whatever residual culture it touches.
And that's a good thing

[Anonymous No.17606233]

>>17603885
no you retard. mishima was a imperialist who wanted to see japan go back to their imperialist era free from western intervention. not fascism. there wasnt anything remotely fascistic about him.

[Anonymous No.17606751]

>>17603513
>$16 on Amazon

[Anonymous No.17606838]

>>17601427
>fascists mythologize a past that never was
sure, that's why futurists were such a big influence on them in Italy, nobody like a futirist to mythologize the past that never was.

[Anonymous No.17606886]

Will O' the Wisp, 500 dollars on amazon. The version translated as The Fire Within is like 200.

[Anonymous No.17606892]

>>17603837
>mishima wasnt
Cope.

[Anonymous No.17607125]

>>17601427
How can you justify this statement? Fascism barely even existed (few years in the 1940s) after which the West started a process of continuous self-humiliation all in fear of resembling fascism.
Then, China starts doing fascism a few decades ago (after its pursuit of a totally different ideology eradicated the residual culture THAT ideology touched) and they're doing better than ever.

Your definition of fascism would have to be totally theoretical to say it had the ability to destroy what culture it touched. Which cultures has it destroyed?

[Anonymous No.17607858]

>>17607125
fascism was around since the 1920's pal not just the 40's ffs

[Anonymous No.17607868]

>>17601075
>sounds like repressed trans to me
Why do you think /pol/ loves him

[Anonymous No.17607940]

>>17605502
yeah when has fascism ever collaborated with a monarchy lol

[Anonymous No.17609033]

>>17601075
fascists are autistic which is commonly comorbid with gender dysphoria

[Anonymous No.17609820]

>>17601253
Rogue Scholar Press

[Anonymous No.17610065]

>>17607125
Fascism manifests so differently from place to place because it emerges as a form of wish fulfillment and is therefore tailored to a given .

[Anonymous No.17610077]

>>17607940
by that logic all communists are neo liberal as they collaborated full retard

[Anonymous No.17610718]

>>17601427
I swear this board gets more retarded by the day.
Hard to imagine that it used to be good

[Anonymous No.17610857]

>>17601011
Pic related is printed and can be found from many other sites
>>17602230
Mad mike's books can be bought for 30 USD from his website that his son runs

[Anonymous No.17610863]

>>17601076
>they'd get shut down fast making risks like that.
???

[Anonymous No.17610896]

>>17601192
No one who criticises Evola has actually read him. Especially the "muh poltard" types

[Anonymous No.17610902]

>>17601011
basically impossible to find for cheap

[Anonymous No.17610907]

[Anonymous No.17610921]

>>17610896
I read him. He's the reason that the dissident right is so distracted/obsessed with metaphysics and pseudospirituality. Guenon is worse, though

[Anonymous No.17611001]

You can't find a copy of On the Marble Cliffs for less than $100. The last time the book was 1984. Why won't they reprint the damn thing?

[Anonymous No.17611257]

>>17601075
I mean he wasn’t a fascist.
So that’d be a big part of your confusion.

[Anonymous No.17611288]

>>17611001
Because everyone who doesn’t read Junger thinks he’s a fascist and therefore printing him is in bad taste.

And the 18 people who do are all aesthetes living in their gardens too busy playing with beetles to care enough to reprint anything besides Storm of Steel.

[Anonymous No.17611330]

anyone know why i see copies on amazon for 30$

I got a copy of subliminal seduction for 10 cents

[Anonymous No.17611347]

>>17611330
What am I supposed to be sexually aroused by? It's a glass with a lemon peel in it.

[Anonymous No.17611353]

>>17611347
"sex" is written the ice cubes

[Anonymous No.17611355]

>>17611347
Because that lemon peel is clearly a dirty slut

[Anonymous No.17611358]

>>17611353
I don't see it.

[Anonymous No.17611504]

>>17606751
Ah, that's cool. It appears they reprinted it December of last year.

[Anonymous No.17611785]

Burnham's The Machiavellians: Defenders of Freedom. It's insane that it hasnt been reprinted yet

[Anonymous No.17611812]

The Camp of the Saints went up 1000% since he died

[Anonymous No.17611822]

>>17611812
yeah glad i got mine for 14$

[Anonymous No.17613643]

>>17611347
the lemon peel is the top cube's dick and it is penetrating the cube just below it

[Anonymous No.17614229]

>>17601011
>>17601075
I never get why Americans of all people enjoy Mishima. I can get Europeans enjoying him, because Americanisation is destroying European culture like it has Japanese culture.
I'm noy saying "muh mutts have no culture". Americanisation and loss of traditions is just something that didn't happen in the US like it happened in the rest of the world.
Any mutts care to explain?

[Anonymous No.17614383]

>>17611347
The glass has nice curves.

[Anonymous No.17614387]

>>17614229
I like mishima because jonathan bowden once gave a speech about him.

[Anonymous No.17614402]

>>17602815
heh

[Anonymous No.17614499]

>>17614229
Because there are always dissidents to every political zeitgeist in every nation.
The people that like Mishima (that aren't discord trannies) are probably the Americans who want to preserve the little culture they have left, for example.

[Anonymous No.17614503]

>>17611347
>>17611330
Because Americans are permanently in a state of subversion lol

[Anonymous No.17614512]

>>17611288
Not true. Fire and blood and war as an inner experience were both translated to English and published recently

[Anonymous No.17614521]

>>17610921
Plenty of those on the 'right' understand his works and subscribe to his thinking. As you say, there is a broad spectrum of political beliefs across the right.
His works are esoteric and clearly not everyone can understand them, but they were not meant to be understood by all.

[Anonymous No.17614530]

This will be one that no one can find cheaply, and that I would love to be reprinted.

The divine and the decay (aka the leap) by Bill Hopkins.

[Anonymous No.17614536]

>>17601011
An Evening Etched in Gold is like 700 dollars

[Anonymous No.17614565]

>>17601493
That's a key difference between italian fascism and most other brands of fascism (german nazism, romanian iron guard, etc).

[Anonymous No.17614576]

>>17614499
I mean that makes sense, but wouldn't we expect the proportion of Americans of Mishima then to be relatively small since the appeal in America is less broad? I guess it is an unanswerable question because there are a million things that play into the popularity of a writer besides cultural appeal.

I do feel like the American cultural myth / heritage of plucky freedom-loving rebels is falling apart at the seams at this point. So I can see how that would cause appeal for Mishimas work.

[Anonymous No.17614579]

>>17614530
It is available on archive.org if you're interested. I grabbed all of the pages as pngs a while back and I can upload if you want.

[Anonymous No.17614619]

>>17601011
Technical books on specifics about engineering, math, science.

[Anonymous No.17614748]

>overpriced and hard to find
it's 1 USD in my native russian version

[Anonymous No.17615205]

>>17614579
If it is still available as a PDF on archive.org then I'll download it there. Is it readable?

[Anonymous No.17615225]

>>17607125
You could argue that Chiang Kai Shek was the first fascist ruler

[Anonymous No.17615235]

>>17601011
Sun and Steel by Mishima

[Anonymous No.17615238]

>>17610077
They are.

[Anonymous No.17615240]

>>17615225
you'd be right
but also wrong.

[Anonymous No.17615249]

>>17610077
they are you fucking brainlet.
Why do you think mcCarthy failed and was portayed as a sociopath for the rest of history?
Because he made the error of the tail wagging the dog.
It was not the commies infiltrating state department.
It was state department ruling over the commies.
That's all it has ever been.

[Anonymous No.17615285]

>>17615205
If I recall, I had trouble getting it as a PDF because of their loan system, but I can't remember. Here's a random page.

[Anonymous No.17615294]

>>17611347
Is that Edgar Allan Poe’s face in the bottom right cube?

[Anonymous No.17615301]

>>17615285
Could you upload the images then please? Cheers

[Anonymous No.17615478]

>>17614229
I’m an American who hates America

[Anonymous No.17615517]

>>17614229
Yeah. You have an absolutely terrible reading of Mishima and Americans and the Americanization meme in general. The man had American friends, some of his closest even. Americans also aren’t this monolithic globohomo culture totalizers you seem to think they are. Europe has a higher percentage of LGBT and is much more post-nationally progressive than we are for instance. Honestly, why are Europeans so desperate to differentiate themselves knowing that a lot of what they’re referring to isn’t actually Americanism but is rather modernism, Westernism generally, and to the extent it is Americanism, is something you all practically begged for. It’s getting pathetic. I see this so much on this stupid site it is getting really annoying because it is just so unbelievably clueless. Lastly, where does this idiotic idea that ideology lives in a vacuum come from? Do you really believe that ideology and personality exists monolothically across nations and people even across time? How dumb is that? Am I supposed to think that every French citizen is a Jacobin and therefore can’t read someone who isn’t? It’s real fucking dumb, dude. Use your brain.

[Anonymous No.17615531]

>>17614576
>I do feel like the American cultural myth / heritage of plucky freedom-loving rebels is falling apart at the seams at this point. So I can see how that would cause appeal for Mishimas work.
Think about how stupid this is. You are literally fantasizing that Americans just by default share the ideals of the people who founded America and hence latch into Mishima because they want to preserve that. That is stupid, my guy. Honestly, think about how dumb that is.

[Anonymous No.17615638]

It's Me, Eddie by Limonov

[Anonymous No.17615671]

>>17601011
Darconville's Cat

[Anonymous No.17615702]

>>17615301
Here it is.
https://anonfiles com/B2ydQ34fq9/leap_zip

[Anonymous No.17616780]

>>17606233
He didn't even want that. He was too aware to consider the success of his movement a possibility. The coup and suicide were his attempt at asserting his self on the physical world, the synchronization of thought and action in such a way as too leave no doubt to their union. Mishima was obsessed with that duality, and by transforming his life into a work of art he hoped to transcend it. Like the zen koans, the truth is the paradox.

[Anonymous No.17616795]

>>17616780
I think you’re definitely right here but to the other anon’s point, he most definitely held certain political and philosophical ideals. The two aren’t even really totally separate or able to be separated.

[Anonymous No.17616885]

french versions of Shestov's "all things are possible" are averaging around 150 euros (second hand). no recent translations nor recent editions. I just want to read this book ffs ...

[Anonymous No.17617092]

>>17616795
I believe the specifics of politics were means to an end. The thing that mattered to Mishima was that whatever he did checked a certain number of boxes. There had to be a dramatic death, there had to be eroticism, an individual alone facing an insurmountable force, the impossibility of success, a doomed romance for a long lost love. The suicide/coup reflected all that and then some. Mishima was a very self aware artist, and I believe his every action needs to looked at as such.

[Anonymous No.17618251]

>>17601029
>dissident publishers
Kek

[Anonymous No.17618565]

>>17614576
>What appeal does Plato have to non-Greeks?
>What appeal does Marcus Aurelius have to non-Romans?
>What appeal does Rousseau have to non-French?
>What appeal does Kant have to non-Germans?
>What appeal does Hume have to non-Scots?
>What appeal does Chekov have to non-Russians?

[Anonymous No.17619490]

just contact CarThule off twitter and buy one for $15