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Which was the patrician's poem of choice?

>> No.17592674
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>>17592665
The Iliad

>> No.17592703

>Odysseus reuniting with Telemachus
More powerful than anything in the Iliad

>> No.17592741

was achilles stronger than goku?

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>>17592665

>> No.17592761
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The Aeneid, Greeks are retarded

>> No.17592765

>>17592674
this
>>17592741
yes

>> No.17592778

It is the nature of epic poetry to be at ease in regard to its subject matter, to be free from the strain and excitement of weaker and more abstract forms of poetry in dealing with heroic subjects. The heroic ideal of epic is not attained by a process of abstraction and separation from the meannesses of familiar things. The magnificence and aristocratic dignity of epic is conformable to the practical and ethical standards of the heroic age; that is to say, it tolerates a number of things that may be found mean and trivial by academicians. Epic poetry is one of the complex and comprehensive kinds of literature, in which most of the other kinds maybe included--romance, history, comedy; tragical, comical, historical, pastoral are terms not sufficiently various to denote the variety of the Iliad and the Odyssey.
The circumstances of an heroic age may be found in numberless times and places, in the history of the world. Among its accompaniments will be generally found some sort of literary record of sentiments and imaginations; but to find an heroic literature of the highest order is not so easy. Many nations instead of an Iliad or an Odyssey have had to make shift with conventional repetitions of the praise of chieftains, without any story; many have had to accept from their story-tellers all sorts of monstrous adventures in place of the humanities of debate and argument. Epic literature is not common; it is brought to perfection by a slow process through many generations. The growth of Epic out of the older and commoner forms of poetry, hymns, dirges, or panegyrics, is a progress towards intellectual and imaginative freedom. Few nations have attained, at the close of their heroic age, to a form of poetical art in which men are represented freely in action and conversation. The labour and meditation of all the world has not discovered, for the purposes of narrative, any essential modification of the procedure of Homer. Those who are considered reformers and discoverers in later times--Chaucer, Cervantes, Fielding--are discoverers merely of the old devices of dramatic narration which were understood by Homer and described after him by Aristotle.
The "common life" of the Homeric poems may appeal to modern pedantic theorists, and be used by them in support of Euripidean or Wordsworthian receipts for literature. But the comprehensiveness of the greater kinds of poetry, of Homer and Shakespeare, is a different thing from the premeditated and self-assertive realism of the authors who take viciously to common life by way of protest against the romantic extreme. It has its origin, not in a critical theory about the proper matter of literature, but in dramatic imagination. In an epic poem where the characters are vividly imagined, it follows naturally that their various moods and problems involve a variety of scenery and properties, and so the whole business of life comes into the story.

>> No.17592795

how do you pronounce Fagles?

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>>17592761
basadus atque rubricatapotiatus

>> No.17592838

>>17592795
/fægliː/
the s is silent

>> No.17592841

>>17592795
fag les

>> No.17592874

>>17592795
fag lay

>> No.17592895

>>17592795
I always pronounced it "Fay-gls"

>> No.17592974

>>17592778
nice post. who else apart from Shakespeare and Homer would you say achieve this?

>> No.17592994

>>17592974
Megan Boyle

>> No.17593036

>>17592994
she cute, at least

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>>17592665
Shahnameh