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[Anonymous No.17585004]

What do we think?

[Anonymous No.17585023]

>>17585004
"Anti-woke" leftist women read Lasch, "anti-woke" leftist men read Baudrillard, and neither of them can say anything coherent or interesting

[Anonymous No.17585423]

>>17585004
A gem.

The first 5 or 6 chapters hold up to today's narcissism.
The part of sports, children and after are skipable.

[Anonymous No.17585445]

>>17585004
dated

>>17585423
I agree so much!!! This was my exact opinion. It starts out solid and then just nosedives. The chapters on sports and promiscuity seemed especially out of touch to me

[Anonymous No.17585464]

>>17585023
Weird, I read history for context in the world and insofar as voting or caring about it, I remember which party wants to lower my property taxes and call it a day.
It's almost like the opinions unemployed clerks are unnecessary to the process.

[Anonymous No.17585546]

While modernity has been obsessed with politics, it may be equally true that postmodernity is possessed by the idea of the clan.

the endless pointing to the examples of narcissism and the evolution of individualism, in a number of sociological or journalistic articles, represents thinking at its most conventional. They are of little merit unless to illustrate the profound upheaval occurring within the ranks of intellectuals who have difficulty understanding anything of the society which is their bread and butter and who thus try to impart a kind of meaning in terms appropriate to the moral and/or political realm in which they prosper.

it is fallacious to draw a parallel between the end of politics and the withdrawal into the self, or what is termed the return of narcissism. This is a short-sighted perspective; in fact, I would postulate that the saturation of the political form goes hand in hand with the saturation of individualism. Paying close attention to this fact is another way of investigating the masses. The conformism of youth, the passion for likeness within groups or 'tribes', the phenomena of fashion, standardized culture, up to and including the unisexualization of appearance, permit us to claim that what we are witnessing is the loss of the idea of the individual in favour of a much less distinct mass. This mass has no need of the notion of individual, national, sexual identity, which was one of the most important conquests of the bourgeois order.

the wandering mass-tribes are less a question of belonging to a gang, a family or a community than of switching from one group to another. This can give the impression of atomization or wrongly give rise to talk of narcissism. In fact, in contrast to the stability induced by classical tribalism, neo-tribalism is characterized by fluidity, occasional gatherings and dispersal. Thus we can describe the street scene of modern megalopolises: the amateurs of jogging, punk or retro fashions, preppies and street performers invite us on a travelling road show.

beyond a surface individualism or narcissism, we must pay closer attention to the group attitudes that develop in our societies.

[Anonymous No.17585605]

>>17585546
This passage is the first I've read from someone who seems to have a strong opinion against what Lasch is saying.

>The Time of the Tribes: The Decline of Individualism in Mass Society
Did you find this insightful and accurate? Your post makes it sound pretty deep to me

[Anonymous No.17585656]

>>17585605
I became intrigued by the idea of declining individualism, contrary to the popular narrative, based on something else I had read and looked if anyone had written a book about it. I found that. I actually found it incredibly convincing.

[Anonymous No.17586781]

>>17585023
>moishe

[Anonymous No.17586804]

>>17585004
I think we can all agree: Anna K is sexy.

[Anonymous No.17586812]

>>17586804
Never read the book, by the way.

[Anonymous No.17586835]

>>17585656
Interesting perspective indeed.

Any book(s) that you would recommend of this sort?

[Anonymous No.17586851]

>>17585656
Didn't Deleuze point out that we are not individuals (a single unit that is not divided) but dividuals (divided into many fractions)?

[I hate women No.17587164]

>>17585445
You type like a woman

[Anonymous No.17587168]

>>17585004
Narcissism is a heroic trait

[Anonymous No.17587346]

>>17585546
Narcissism isn't individualism necessarily since narcissists deeply need others to reify their self image.

TLP has that turn of phrase: "There is no such thing as a narcissist on a desert island".

[Anonymous No.17587567]

>>17587168
Explain, this statement alone is horribly wrong

[Anonymous No.17587747]

>>17585445
this !!! so much this !!!

[Anonymous No.17587764]

>>17587168
wrong

[Anonymous No.17587883]

>>17586781
>moishe
>rubin
>heinrich
All three of them, Anon, all three of them.

[Anonymous No.17587955]

>>17587883
Based

[Anonymous No.17588200]

>>17587164
Women seem wicked when you're unwanted.