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17581131 No.17581131 [Reply] [Original]

RIP Achilleus... mf gon die...... why??

>> No.17581175

We don't cotton to freaks here in Burbery CT. Scram weirdo, before I punch your neck off.

>> No.17581218

Powers are for the weak. I have no powers, unless you count the power to blow minds!

>> No.17581441

>>17581175
the fuck did you just say to me?
>>17581218
power to blow *****

>> No.17581710

>>17581131
Fate or something who knows.

>> No.17581919

>>17581131
Fuck Achilleus. If you actually read the Illiad you would that Hector is the actual Hero.

>> No.17581942

>>17581919
Nonsense. Diomedes towers above all.

>> No.17581943

>>17581919
This is true.

>> No.17581969

>>17581942
This

>> No.17581981

>>17581919
>>17581943
>>17581969
The guy who was chased around the walls of his collapsing empires by based Achilles before having all his sisters enslaved and raped? LMAO

>> No.17582104

What translation should I read. There is a 0% chance I learn it in its original language. Not proud of that, just being realistic. Remember reading The Odyssey in high school but I don’t even know what the translation was

>> No.17582163

>>17582104
Pope

>> No.17582167

>>17581919
Patroklos is the real hero. Literally the gods needed to take him out when two Trojan heros wouldn't suffice

>> No.17582168

>>17582104
OP's

>> No.17582180

>>17582104
Fitzgerald

>> No.17582183
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>>17582167
>the bottom faggot whose only role was to die for his butt buddy

>> No.17583829

>>17581981
Lol for real

>> No.17583846

>>17581131
He never dies in the Iliad. Happens after. But yeah he was a rage baby man he needed to die at some point buys he’s my boy.

>> No.17583972

I wish I could have a cute bf to die for.

>> No.17584172
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>>17581919
I dare you to say it to his face.

>> No.17584240

>>17581131
Ajax deserved his armor, only haters will disagree.

>> No.17584357

>>17584240
Based

>> No.17584416

>>17581919
Truth. It's so sad when he meets his wife and his little boy for the last time.

>> No.17584478

>>17584240
Yes but in fairness Ulysses is generally the best at taking advantage of anything, so it's rarely a bad move to give him stuff to take advantage of (if he's on your side ofc).

>> No.17584669

>>17582104
You'll never get a straightforward answer regarding translations. It depends what you want to get out of the book as each translation is carried out with a specific goal. You can find text samples online and compare them to each other.

>> No.17585976
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>>17581919
In The Odyssey, Achilles wishes he would have rather been a peasant farmer than the greatest warrior to ever live, as the afterlife is such shit compared to the land of the living.

>> No.17585989

>>17582104
I'd recommend the Fagles translation. Its language is easy enough to understand without dumbing it down to the point of losing all poetic merit.

>> No.17586752

>>17581919
Based except it's legit Paris

>> No.17586755

>>17581942
Dimoedes,Paris,everyone else, Achilles

>> No.17586762

>>17585976
It's because he can't kill anything anymore.

>> No.17586821

he doesn't die in this book

>> No.17586834

>>17586821
Yes but it is said several times his death is shortly to come.

>> No.17587041

>>17582104
Lattimore

>> No.17587182

>>17583846
>gon

>> No.17587190
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>>17584240
>manlet deserving anything especially over Based Odysseus

>> No.17588339

>>17581919
the one family man among a horde of flesh-eaters and rapists. I don't blame him for bolting when he saw Achilles, I would have done the same. Really, Hector was one of the few humans involved in the Trojan war, surrounded by unfeeling demigods. I still think of the scene when he goes to visit his wife and kids, caked in blood and armed to the teeth scares his children, then he takes his horse-haired helmet off and comforts them. Dante was correct in his redemption of Hector, was correct in damning Achilles desu

>> No.17588655

Nice spoiler jackass

>> No.17589175

>>17588339
dude stfu

>> No.17589317

>>17581919
I completely agree with this. I started reading The Aeneid after finishing both The Iliad and The Odyssey and I couldn't bring myself to get through it. Both the Homer works feel so much more dense and complicated while The Aeneid just feels like blatant Roman propaganda. Turnus just feels like a stereotypical "bad guy" and the whole book just feels so one-sided.