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17571878 No.17571878 [Reply] [Original]

The Catholic argument that grace is an intervention proactively coming strictly from without is absurd. The common denominator of all grace theory is that one can do nothing to receive it, that it does not thermodynamically communicate with anyone or anything, figuratively and/or literally. However, the motif of all grace theory is that one receives it ultimately because one needs it. The contradiction here is not only typically Catholic, the world is a catastrophe even though it is God's magnum opus and such, but exclusively Catholic in that it is deliberately explicitly absurd to make one look for coherence in the implicit. Incidentally, the Catholic is once again the only one doing what he is accusing the Gnostic of. The former's encyclopedic knowledge of the latter's proclivities is a mirror. The contradiction being that, Ontologically, grace is said to come from without but its cause is not even from within but the within itself, Teleologically. I do not suppose that even the Catholic can speak of grace without a recipient, it therefore can be said that it is proactively given by God inasmuch as it is proactively needed by man. Far from being Dialectical, this suspension is a categorical subordination of the above to the below. Grace is yet another discharge of an excess or filling of a lack, going from God to man as a stone rolls downhill. Worse still, it is more thermodynamic than thermodynamics: it is not so much that it mires the Theological in the thermodynamic, rather, the thermodynamic expands to engulf both parties, the very form of all things is made thermodynamic. Moreover, grace as such is the polar opposite of an intervention from without and is only distinguished from worldly things by being the most worldly thing. It is common knowledge that all matters of Catholic Theology are merely apotheoses of (bad) Phenomenology, i.e. God the Father is the perfect predator and the Son the perfect prey, however, note the implicit perfidy that grace as such is, again, not congruent with ideas of the implicit Garden wherein grace is a perfect thermodynamic agent of a thermodynamically perfect world, but a Demiurgic comedy of a Cosmic arbeit macht frei. Explicitly, the Catholic claims worldly matters are of utmost importance yet claims that grace has practically no effect thereon. Implicitly, this contradiction has the gravest implications. Consider its resolution in the argument that grace itself is the cause of any and all things grace allegedly delivers one from. That its engulfing of sin is so great that it even gets under or behind it, to its very inscription into man, propagation into the world, and perpetuation of its own necessity; the final perfidy. Consider Reason as the true intervention. Its very form, opposing the Empirical, is literally the only thing not of the world. Salvation is a truly abortive process, not the Earthly bud blooming into the Heavenly flower, but the egg cracked from the outside.

>> No.17571891

>>17571878
>absurd
It’s called a miracle you dirty prot

>> No.17571927

>>17571878
>Grace comes from without
It would help if you weren't misinformed about Catholicism. Then you could write a different rant.

>> No.17571946

>>17571927

Where does is allegedly come from then?

>> No.17572269

>Salvation is a truly abortive process, not the Earthly bud blooming into the Heavenly flower, but the egg cracked from the outside.

beautiful. very gnostic. keep going

>> No.17572291

>>17571891
>prot
he’s a gnostic, brainlet papist

>> No.17572583

>>17572291
>brainlet papist
Is there any other kind of papist?