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17559019 No.17559019 [Reply] [Original]

>tfw too tired from wageslaving all day to read or write

>> No.17559023

Stop wageslaving you sorry excuse of a man.

>> No.17559026

>>17559019
>ttw too numb and detached due to NEETdom to write

>> No.17559033

>>17559023
Either I make rent, share a building with people I hate or sleep rough. Overpopulation sucks

>> No.17559036

>>17559033
Just sleep in the forrest faggot.

>> No.17559059

>>17559036
>Just die of exposure faggot
If you can't offer good advice then shut up

>> No.17559069

>earn enough money in a year to live two years
>can't stop working for a year because if I do I won't get a job again
>have to keep investing so I can retire at 50 or 60
>probably will die early and then it's wasted
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>> No.17559072

>>17559059
>sleeps in forrest
>dies
That‘s natural selection baby. Don‘t resist it.

>> No.17559080

>>17559072
>Middle class offers bad advice
>Killed by arson in peasant rebellion
Natural selection, it just takes a while

>> No.17559098

>>17559080
Glad we agree anon. Let‘s let it all crash and burn. Might the worthy ones survive and never mourn the weak.

>> No.17559100

>>17559069
isn't it wondrous how like for all the decades since the Industrial Revolution a worker's income was the precise level of someone who has to keep working?

>> No.17559113

stop sleeping and read and write in those unused nighttime hours. start by limiting your sleep to 3-4 hours a night, then 1-2, and finally transition into 2 hours every 48 hours. the human body adapts. i used to work concrete in ghana and our foreman got us on a 2 in 48 schedule for this one rush government contract we were doing. didn't see any loss of work performance after the initial adjustment period and about half the guys kept on with this sleep schedule long after the contract wrapped. i fell back into my old sleeping ways a few years ago as a concession to my wife when she had my son, but i still think about those years without sleep and know one day i'll be back on it.

>> No.17559116

>>17559033
>Overpopulation
Retard

>> No.17559181

Consider speed

>> No.17559189

>>17559181
consider sneed

>> No.17559193

>>17559189
Consider feed

>> No.17559203

>>17559193
consider that it was formerly known as Chuck's

>> No.17559217

I'm considering living in a van and so should you OP.

>> No.17559220

>>17559116
He's right

>> No.17559394

>>17559019
I write only an hour or two a day despite being a NEET. I fear for the day when I have to actually get a job.

>> No.17559452

>>17559019
what do you do? covid has been the best thing imaginable for me to reconcile waging and lit things
>wfh cuts out 1.5 hours of commute time
>read or write during slow hours when i'd otherwise be pretending to work
>no distractions to go out on weekends

>> No.17559464

literature is an aristocratic pursuit. relax after a day of wage labour with some monsanto weed and vidya. leave the books to the pros.

>> No.17559465

>tfw too tired from NEETing all day to read or write

>> No.17559471

>>17559019
just keep making excuses for yourself. easy to play the victim, aint it?

>> No.17560550

>>17559465
Hello me.

>> No.17560573

I’m about to quit mine since I just can’t take it anymore. I have no idea what I’m going to do after.

>> No.17560656

You can make money or find fulfillment. Welcome to capitalism.

http://groups.csail.mit.edu/mac/users/rauch/worktime/hours_workweek.html

>> No.17560804

same but a bit different, I have a wagie job but barely work any hours, its just that my family is so insufferable its hard to find time to read and where I live in the countryside theres no decent library unless I drive which I dont feel like doing just to fucking read

>> No.17560825

>>17559019
Hey OP, fellow wagie here. Here's what I do:

>read 1 hour before work
>read for 30 minutes during midmorning break (this is a bundling of all coffee, smoke, and water breaks other employees might take
>read for 1 hour on my lunch break (I eat a prepacked snack as well)
>Read for 30 minutes during my midafternoon break. Again, this is a bundling up of many small breaks others might take

and in such a way I manage to read for 3 hours before my workday has even ended. of course, i also read when I get into bed for at least an hour.

>> No.17560840

>>17560656
oh shit I didn´t know that,I actually tought they worked like mad. I need to dive into industrial revolution critiques asap

>> No.17560846

>>17559019
drink coffee bro

>> No.17560861

>>17559452
it really has. no more pretending to work... gives me a couple hours a day to shitpost

>> No.17560877

>>17559113
I would do this but isn't there numerous health risks associated with this pattern of sleep? or am I mistaken?

>> No.17560893

>>17560825
> mid morning break
> lunch break
> mid afternoon break
Lol. I have enough work where I work nonstop from 8 through 5, no breaks and I make less than a manager at Wendy’s. The only thing I have energy for after work is either going for a walk to unwind or simply mustering enough willpower to not end my existence on the spot. In fact, I’m not sure the latter can hold much longer.

>> No.17560910

eat breakfast
go to bed earlier
make the fewer hours higher quality
work in a store not a place that requires brain power, so you can meditate while managing wares and customers

>> No.17560930

>>17560840
>implying the issue is industrialization and not capitalism

>> No.17560931
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>>17560656
>those 19th century work hours
Holy shit the luddites were right; No wonder so many people turned to Communism

>> No.17560999

>>17560930
False dichotomy.

>> No.17561001

>>17560930
whynotboth.jpg

>> No.17561023

>>17560877
Yes, do not listen to this retard. Depriving yourself of sleep to read more is stupid.

If anything, sleep more (8 hours). You will have more energy after work to read. Also read in breaks/lunches at work.

Best advice you will find here

>> No.17561036

>>17560656
And before agrarian society we worked even less hours

>> No.17561050

>>17560656
Think about what is actually said here. The actual time spent laboring was lesser (most of you spend literally no time laboring today) and the working time was intermittent but the work day was sunrise to sunset. Sleep was required because of the work, as were intermittent breaks for meals. They weren’t “leisure” of the sort the author implies and time that belonged to neither were dedicate to an abundance of chores, which were done by hand, not outsourced, and were time intensive. I’m not at all a defender of capitalism or something, but this is just a nonsensical fantasy written up by the sort of leftist who is simply against “work” in all its forms, to the point that he might consider a mandated nap so you could labor harder in the afternoon “leisure” as long as it can critique his vague idea of “capitalism”.

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>>17560931
>All told, holiday leisure time in medieval England took up probably about one-third of the year. And the English were apparently working harder than their neighbors. The ancien règime in France is reported to have guaranteed fifty-two Sundays, ninety rest days, and thirty-eight holidays. In Spain, travelers noted that holidays totaled five months per year.

>> No.17561235

>>17559019
Wake up two hours before work, have two cups of coffee while reading. Finish work and go straight to bed.

>> No.17561509

>>17560999
>>17561001
Valid point. I will research this further.

>> No.17562715

>>17561050
keep in mind only men worked

half the population working half the time

>> No.17563001

Someone who is more well read than me give their opinions of fascism and communism on 'wage slaving'

>> No.17563116

>>17559113
Retard

>> No.17563128

>>17559220
he's not

>> No.17563134

Faulkner managed to write As I Lay Dying while working at a power plant, if you don't have any motivation to do it, then maybe writing isn't for you.

>> No.17563252

>>17559113
>i fell back into my old sleeping ways a few years ago as a concession to my wife when she had my son
why would you have to do that if sleeping very little had no negative effects on you? Being used to stay up all night would be super useful with a newborn

>> No.17563254

>>17563134
Working at a power plant in Faulkner’s day was a much different experience than a modern office job.

>> No.17563345

>>17563254
There's still plenty of jobs like that, which involve minimal slaving. You've just got to find them, for those who care.

>> No.17563374

>>17563345
E.g a job in a rail depot as a manager or something like that

>> No.17563376

>>17563345
If by plenty, you mean at all common or easily attainable then I just totally disagree.

>> No.17563384

>>17563374
And you don’t think that’s vanishingly rarer than it used to be while being increasingly unattainable for a person?

>> No.17563394

>>17563384
>>17563376
Depends on the country bro. Euros can find them easy, diesel and electric

>> No.17563410

>>17563394
>>17563384
>>17563376
Some faggots don't help themselves at all and then all they do is complain.
I'm not saying I don't pity them, but it is mostly pathetic

>> No.17563430

>>17563394
It’s not common in the United States. I can tell that.

>>17563410
Way to dismiss the challenge without addressing. What I’m saying is true and you just want to brush it off and deny to prove your petty point I guess.

>> No.17563442

>>17563430
There’s also a false equivalency going on here. The sort of job an engineer, for example, did in 1968 and what an engineer does today, are simply not the same job or even close.

>> No.17563462

>>17563442
I agree
>>17563430
Meh, these threads get boring. Not that I agree with or like wage slaving or the effects it has. But there's only so much whining that you can stand on this sub

>> No.17563466

>>17559019
read or write on work, lol. Imagine actually waging instead of just showing up at a job and collecting paycheck while doing what you want/nothing.

>> No.17563468

>comfy slow job where I have time to read a couple of hours at work
>still enough energy to read every day, do sports, cook for myself and my loved ones every day

Life is good my dudes.

>> No.17563489

>>17563468
I envy you. I've been NEET for 2 months and accomplish nothing. Work in an office where I did nothing for a year and still feel drained as fuck. Don't have desire for anything

>> No.17563520

>>17559059
Lmao just stop, sell all your shit you don’t need and escape if you truly want to write. It’s your fault not societies.

>> No.17563534

>>17560877
No, sleep isn’t necessary for 8 hrs. Sleep is just biological repair from stress physical and mental. Look at cats for clues

>> No.17563556

>>17563489
the structure and security my job provides for me is a blessing. I've been in college on my own where nobody gives a shit if you finish or not and I didn't get shit done either. I hope you find a good support system soon, then you will have the stability to improve in other areas. Take care.

>> No.17563561

>>17560877
Yes, don't listen to that retard

>> No.17563597

>>17560877
No, look at the Indians or Buddhists over in tibet

>> No.17563617

>>17559203
stop it with the plebbit replies

>> No.17563640

>>17559220
Overpopulation isn't why people have to wageslave lmao. It's a cultural issue.

>> No.17563715

>>17561064
So they lied to us all this time?

>> No.17563734

>>17563597
Compromising sleep so you can squeeze more time out of your day is just a recipe for misery.

>> No.17563755

>>17563462
If you find it to be whining and annoying, why do you participate in the thread?

>> No.17563896

>>17563715
of course (((they))) lied

>> No.17563929

>>17559100
The final red pill is when you become self sufficient and don’t spend money on useless bullshit do you can retire early

>> No.17563958

I just got a job as a secuirty job at a college. 10 hour shifts, four days a week. Dealing with 20 year olds being drunk all the time is going to suck. I think I may just ignore them and read my whole shift , may even bring my laptop and try to start writing again. I'm 29 and feel like shit because I only have a two year degree from a community college. Watching these young kids fuck around and knowing that most will have a bright future is depressing. I think I'm envious.

>> No.17563981

I write better when working. I always think stuff up during the workday and copy them down on my phone during the breaks. Then when I get home, it's easy to organize and pump out a couple more pages.
But when I have unlimited free time, it feels like its way harder to sit down and put it all out there. There's no time pressure

>> No.17563999

>>17563958
I did that in college. It does suck dealing with drunk college students. In fact, I would recommend you do it for only a short while and get a normal security job instead in all honesty. That said, you will have time to read and write. Just expect a lot of distractions and a lot of people making comments about what you read.

>> No.17564007

>>17563958
It will also become plainly obvious to you that most of them will, in fact, not have a bright future so while I would condemn your petty jealousy, it’s misplaced.

>> No.17564032

>>17559033
>>17559220
then kys if you think overpopulation is a problem

>> No.17564050

>>17563116
you're the fucking retard for falling for obvious bait?

>> No.17564067

>>17564007
I'm honestly ashamed of myself for feeling envious/ jealous. I just got this job and start Friday. I finished my training over the weekend. When he told me I would not be patrolling and I would be in the dorms I immediately started applying for other jobs. I just have no idea what to apply for. If I could find a bookstore in ATL and make $12+ an hour I would jump ship quick.

>> No.17564093

>>17559113
Enjoy your Alzheimer's, buddy

>> No.17564126

>>17559100
you're thinking too much

>> No.17564138

>>17560656
>http://groups.csail.mit.edu/mac/users/rauch/worktime/hours_workweek.html
>Before capitalism
I really want this article to be true so I can keep shitting on modernists and promote the old ways. But when I see stupid shit like that I question its accuracy. Capitalism existed well before the industrial revolution, didn't it?

>> No.17564182

>>17559113
What an awful idea

>> No.17564184

>>17564138
Not in its current form, see mercantilism as critiqued by Adam Smith in "Wealth of Nations"

>> No.17564195

>>17560893
Just do less of the work. I am currently posting instead of working and I have tons of work lmao.

>> No.17564213

>>17563958
>Watching these young kids fuck around and knowing that most will have a bright future
They are at college, they will get some inflated piece of paper and then spend decades paying back their huge student debts lol

>> No.17564221

TBQH I think working from home is bringing me to similar levels of leisurely work pace and breaks as the medieval working conditions. Of course I would rather do work outside in a beautiful natural environment surrounded by my tight knit community, all of us God fearing, eating natural foods and living a very ordered life in general. But hey, wfh is a massive step in the right direction.

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>working from home
>take 10min breaks every 30mins just to read
>end up reading like 60 pages a day
i love covid

>> No.17564361

>>17559019
do it on the weekends or days off

>> No.17564670

>>17559113
Dis nigga got dementia

>> No.17564691
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17564691

You had 10 years

>> No.17564880

>>17564138
>Capitalism existed well before the industrial revolution, didn't it?
Sort of but it was not everywhere or everything

>> No.17564899

>>17564241
>>17564221
Ahhhhh, another WFH day
Time to do 2 hours of work over 8 hours

>> No.17564907

>>17560656
its like capitalism is evil and doesnt care about human happiness

>> No.17564916

>>17564213
not everyone is American anon. In Europe we actually have decent states that pay top-tier colleges for us

>> No.17564926

>>17564907
So do we have any viable alternatives, unironicly asking? Can it be combined with another ideology to be less shit? Is there any pre-industrial replacement? Is there any new technology that would make a new ideology viable to displace it? Can we combine pre-industrial ideologies and communism to create something that can partially preserve traditions? Is it already over and I can only watch it all grow slowly worse until it is an actual Capitalist dystopia?

I have grown to hate Capitalism, but that only gets me so far if I have no idea what to replace it with.

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>>17564926
>but that only gets me so far if I have no idea what to replace it with.

the only way is forward, its time to accelerate capitalism

>> No.17564974

>>17564949
Yeah you're right desu. God, I hope I get to see the glimmer of light at the end of the tunnel or that my end is not too painful

>> No.17564987

>>17564221
My work has gotten significantly worse since working from home.

>> No.17564997

>>17564067
Oh. I thought you meant you were going to be security in bars or something. Campus security I bet is not nearly as bad, or maybe it is. I don’t know. Honestly though, there really is no reason to envy them at all.

>> No.17564998

>>17559220
Wealthy land owners cuck people out of owning property anon.
>>17559033
>does not read or write
>thinks over population is real
it checks out

>> No.17565033

>>17559113
You should sooner train yourself to think in your dreams than attempt this.

>> No.17565042

>>17565033
you can do this

if youve ever been seriously stressed about something you dream about the problem all night long

>> No.17565420

>>17564926
We're rapidly advancing automation. At that point the labor system would be moot.

>> No.17565853

>>17560893
just end it bro existence is gay af

>> No.17566240

>>17559100
https://www.britannica.com/topic/subsistence-theory-of-wages

>> No.17566327

>>17564987
Why?
>>17564899
Comfy.
>>17564926
The alternative is not to focus on economics but to focus back on religion and have the economics fall into place after.

>> No.17566332

>>17559033
>Overpopulation
kek

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>>17564213
imagine actually believing in this meme

>> No.17566470

>>17566344
It’s true.

>> No.17566521

>>17564926
>watch it all grow slowly worse until it is an actual Capitalist dystopia?
In Marxist historical theory that is called end-stage communism.

>> No.17566562

Don't worry guys. We only have to work for another 50 years.

>> No.17566623

>>17566470
It might be true if you get some retarded degree or your masters in social work incurring ridiculous amounts of debt, but by every metric, statistically, college grads make more money by a good margin then non college grads.

If you believe someone racking up 200k in debt to pursue a degree in Persian History is the fault of capitalism or the government, you are a fucking idiot.

>> No.17566633

>>17559023
Give me money then bitch.

>> No.17566635
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17566635

>haven’t worked in months from winter layoff and am bored enough to contemplate suicide in my existential awareness of placement in the universe at large

>> No.17567847

>>17559019
Goddamn I miss being a NEET so much. Wagecucking is the worst hell. It drains me of all energy and all joy in life. Half the time on my days off I'm too anxious about having to go to work again soon that I can't even derive any pleasure from them. How do normies cope with this horrendous fate? I'm this close to losing my mind.

>> No.17567856

>>17566635
you must read anon, it is the only path to salvation. And, failing that, it's something to occupy your mind.

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17567876

MFW I made enough from Gamestop to last me 2 years

>> No.17568081

>>17560804
>doesnt read epub or pdf copies in his computer
NGMI.

>> No.17568147

can't relate desu
>>17568116

>> No.17568207

>>17567876
But you can't actually fucking enjoy it because if you stop working for two years, Stacey in HR will never give you a job again. It's a fucking cult, wageslavery is.

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>>17559113
Enjoy a couple hundred nanograms of testosterone, faggot.

>> No.17568242

>>17559019
Too tired to read? You’re fucked in the head

>> No.17568258

>>17564926
Enforce a maximum level of income (like 500k a year)
Automate as much as possible, especially agricultural food supply
???
Profit

>> No.17568290

>>17559113
>i used to work concrete in ghana and our foreman got us on a 2 in 48 schedule

>> No.17568596

>>17568207
He just needs to play it smart and go FIRE, then Stacey in HR can go fuck herself when the day comes because he won't need another job.

>> No.17569252

At least you have a job. I can't even get an internship.

>> No.17569265

>>17559033
Why not find people you like to share a building with?
With all that overpopulation going around, I'm sure you'll find someone

>> No.17569268

>>17559019
Test

>> No.17569272

>>17559059
Sounds like it would be good inspiration for a novel tho

>> No.17569283

>>17559069
Whenever I see this AAAAA i assumed it was meant to imply panicked screaming, now it seems to me like more of a sneer, used to show disagreement. Which one is it?

>> No.17569293
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>Found actual qt girl that is a philosophy major
>Gave her my shitty book and she came back, annotated it and actually had a conversation with me about it
>We discussed Spengler together
>We ran together on Valentine's day
>Went on a few dates nothing ever happens but I told her I like her romantically
>First time in life I see myself with someone seriously
>daydreaming.jpg
>feel like I could marry her although I'm against marriage and have left girls before because they were trying to force the idea on me
>Call her over to watch a Tarkovsky movie
>She agrees, but says in a few days because a girlfriend from abroad is here this week and she wants to spend time with her since no opportunities
>days are passing, haven't heard from her since
>no texting
>can barely drag myself to work
>get home just lay in bed and stare at ceiling

>> No.17569666

>>17560825
>drinking water to replenish your vital bodily fluids requires taking break time
Wanna know how I could tell you're American?

>> No.17569723

>>17561050
I think you're reading a bit too much into this. Just because people worked less, doesn't mean life was generally better in that time because people also enjoyed less amenities and personal freedoms.
I dont get the impression that the author of the article is trying to say things were better for peasants in the middle ages. He's just pointing out one specific aspect of life which differs from life in industrialised society.

Also, I'm pretty sure that most activities we would today call 'chores' such as cleaning, gardening, preparing meals etc would have been included in one's job as well during the medieval period

>> No.17569739

>>17563374
I've heard train drivers get a lot of time to themselves to read

>> No.17569756

>>17569293
this is cringe, just read more of your obscure philosophy books to get over her

>> No.17569763

>>17563374
Or a Technical Officer of the Watch on a coastal dredging ship. They typically spend about half their watch just sitting in the Engine Control Room and reading

>> No.17569777

>>17563466
King

>> No.17569778

>>17566623
>by every metric, statistically, college grads make more money by a good margin then non college grads
False and that hasn’t been the case for over 20 years. The average time to pay off student loans is 15 years across all age categories and the majority people 22-29 with a bachelor’s degree are both living at home and unemployed/underemployed.

>> No.17569782

>>17569293
you're too invested faggot. Also, 99% of women are extremely volatile so NEVER take what they say or their feelings at face value, one day she loves you the next she thinks you're a faggot

Just do what you want and don't overthink it

>> No.17569789

>>17569763
I’ve been looking into maritime jobs but it seems like the only ways in are either through the Navy or a Maritime College. The rest are deck hand jobs which don’t require anything but are even still hard to come by. Pretty much the same deal for aircrew and air transport.

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>>17563466

>> No.17569811

>>17559069
>can't stop working for a year because if I do I won't get a job again
Fucking hate this shit. I have enough money to not have a job for years but I know after that I'm fucked.

>> No.17569823

>>17569811
Just enjoy those years and commit suicide when you are out of money. This shit system is unsustainable and is going to start crashing and burning very soon.

>> No.17569828

>>17563556
I feel like it's pretty difficult to be productive in general if you dont have a network of people to discuss your interests or hobbies with.
This strikes me as a gendered issue as well. Most women I know seem to love meeting up to exchange baking tips or make arts and crafts projects together; whereas men tend to work away at their secret projects alone, isolating themselves and eventually losing interest. Maybe try joining a book group?

>> No.17569853

>>17569823
>This shit system is unsustainable and is going to start crashing and burning very soon.
That sure feels true but I’ve been a bit surprised to read authors saying the same thing back in the 1930s...

>> No.17569854

>>17569811
ARe you sure about that or are you just thinking out of fear? I really doubt there's no plan to get a job after a long hiatus

>> No.17569875

>>17569811
Not really. You could always lie about what you did those 2 years, or better yet, actually do something with those 2 years instead of just playing video games.

>> No.17569880

>>17569854
It's some dumb shit that the HR departments are anal about. They see holes in your resume and throw it in the trash.

>> No.17569893

>>17569880
Jesus fuck, is that true? I'm finishing college this year and was thinking of doing a 6 month hiatus but now you're scaring me lmao

>> No.17569902

>>17569789
Working as a rating obviously is a lot of hard work and not well paid (depending on where you're working). I used to work for a company that does general maritime services in and around the harbour and there's often a lot of paid downtime while you're travelling by ship or waiting for the tide to change so you can continue working. Sometimes they just need someone other than the skipper to be on board for emergencies/mooring and you spend the rest of the time sitting around. That's just my experience though so dont assume it's like that everywhere

>> No.17569926

>>17569811
Maybe a dumb suggestion, but have you considered just working part time for a few years? At least then you could have something on your resume and would still have half your week free or whatever

>> No.17569955

>>17569811
It's cowards like you who make these sort of practices and HR departments acceptable. If more people were willing to just take time off and not dedicate their lives to working the rest of us wouldn't have to it's how the free market works.

>> No.17569958

>>17569902
I’m from a totally landlocked state in the US so I know nothing about Maritime. I worked for a brief period in the oilfield, which is another job where there’s technically paid downtime but it’s not at all actually downtime. It’s more like you spend 30 minutes sitting in a truck with 2 hour intervals on a 16 hour shift. I hated it but as much as I hated it, I just can’t do the office job thing anymore. I’m planning on giving my resignation for the summer and I have no backup. I hated the oilfield and that’s probably not even really an option anymore but I still have sort of romantic ideas about jobs like the military, maritime, air crews, stuff like that while I work on my writing. There just seems to be huge barriers no matter where I look. In the military it’s signing away 8 years for an affirmative action briefing. In maritime, it’s having to go to merchant marine academy. You know? I also worked as a ranch hand for a while and simply put, it’s not a job that anyone other than a young illegal immigrant can live off and you work non-stop.

>> No.17569968

>>17569955
What a stupid thing to say. Spare us the free market theology. The guy has no power and neither do the other people who need jobs. If everyone took breaks? There’s a lot of people with mouths to feed who couldn’t take breaks even if it was okay. Is that their fault too?

>> No.17570006

>>17569955
I just want a few years to enjoy my youth. I don't see how that makes me a coward.

>> No.17570019

>>17569968
Europeans have triple the vacation days than Americans dude look at.

>> No.17570020

>>17570006
You're not, that guy is retarded

>> No.17570028

>>17570006
You're a coward because you're not going to do it

>> No.17570036

>>17570019
Its never good to use America as a comparison, that country is a disgrace in every way

>> No.17570048

>>17559033
Move out of SF you fagget

>> No.17570063

>>17570019
The downside that it's essentially impossible to go FIRE unless you start a successful business to sell.

>> No.17570243

>>17570019
First of all, just because they’re not legally mandated doesn’t mean nobody gets them so it’s not at all a hard fact. Second, that really has little to do with what I said. If anything, it actually reinforces what I said. If it really were just subject to market demand, then Americans would get to take way more time off but they don’t.

>> No.17570257

Why do I get nervous when I screw something up at my job even though I don’t care about it all and would actually be happy if I got fired.

>> No.17570280
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17570280

>>17570257
Vaccilation of the spirit, you can have contrary emotions at the same time, until you resolve the contradictions, you won't have peace of mind

>> No.17570437

>>17559019
Read in bed in the morning with a coffee, and enjoy audiobooks on the way to work.

>> No.17570482

>>17569893
I think 6 months is fine. In fact large (but not loo large like 2+ years) unemployment gaps are fine if you can justify them even though it might decrease your odds of getting hired. It's still by no means a killer.

>> No.17570489

>>17559019
It's over. I'm sorry. You're out.

>> No.17570505

>>17559019
Bullshit. Fatigue is an illusion

>> No.17570551

>>17565420
>>17568258
What stops automation from just making things even worse like the Industrial Revolution did?

They made a lot of promises that the industrial revolution would eventually make work completely obsolete, but all that happened is that they started giving workers busy work to justify their hours.

What stops an elite from just creating a plague to wipe out the angry plebs once Automation picks up enough and starts displacing jobs?

>> No.17570583

>>17570280
Well, I’ve resolved to quit in the summer even though I have no back up and never work an office job again so I guess there it is.

>> No.17570598

>>17570551
>What stops automation from just making things even worse like the Industrial Revolution did?
Nothing. Not only will full economic automation never even happen, but if it did, people would end up living to serve the system even more. Those who don’t realize that at this point are living in the dark.

>> No.17570627

>>17570551
That's using the ole noggin. Once the plebs labor becomes obsolete what purpose do they serve for the global elite? Disgruntled poverty stricken plebs with too much free time on their hands are a liability. Your options become appeasement through handouts and busy work or pleb disposal through mass global depopulation and the construction of a parallel self sufficient breakaway society for you and your fellow elites.

>> No.17570694

>>17560825
You have long breaks. I have about half as much as you and work 8 to 5.

>> No.17570723

Too tired to read? Are you dyslexic? It doesn't take energy. I have to be basically falling asleep to not be able to read

>> No.17570791

>>17563534
No, sleep helps consolidate memories, clean waste products, and much more.

>> No.17570823

Just have fun with it
The best part about being a wageslave is that you can at least larp as a human and write about the other automatons

>> No.17570942

>>17569958
I totally get that, which is why I still haven't gone into a maritime academy.
I'm an AB, after going through a 3 year apprenticeship, but I'm in Germany so i dont know how that can help you. Good luck!

>> No.17570990

if you WFH there should be no reason why you can't read "on the job"

if you're like every other office worker you're day can probably be consolidated into ~4 hours. leaving you with ~4 hours of paid reading time, not including breaks. no more pretending to work.

for example I work 2 hours in the morning and 2 hours before the end of my shift.

>> No.17571015

>>17563520
does long period of isolation make you a good writer? what other skills can you develop in isolation if you don't have a lot of resources like in a forest

>> No.17571125

>>17570243
I'm not exactly a proponent of a completely free market. If corporations have a constant stream of cheap labor coming in from 3rd world countries then American citizens are competing with people of a lower quality of life standard and this is just makes it harder for them to negotiate in have leverage over employers. I've worked with people from the back woods of the world and it astounds me how they even find them.

>> No.17571131

>>17570990
I WFH and I have so much work that I can’t do anything but work from 9 to 5. WFH for me just means now you’re on call 24/7 and getting you to do things is just a Teams message away.

>> No.17571141

>>17563520
I don’t have any shit to sell. I actually can’t even afford furniture.

>> No.17571230

>>17563466
he's probably micromanaged af that's why he's tired

>> No.17571243

>>17559113
i did something like this in college and i feel i could not retain anything and think clearly compared to the days i slept properly but making myself suffer like this made me feel good on some level illusion of hard work i guess

>> No.17571251

>>17563597
sauce?

>> No.17571282

>>17571131
set boundries my man. you're not on call 24-7 unless you're being paid for it.

when im not working from 11-3 im still "on call" as it were but after 5 im done

>> No.17571417

>>17571282
>you're not on call 24-7 unless you're being paid for it.
I literally am though. I am paid a salary and if you look at my employment contract there’s stipulations like “willing to work additional time as needed” as is the case for most salaried employees.

>> No.17571426

>>17571230
Yeah. I am and that’s a big part of it. My boss checks in with me twice a day to know what I’m working on and get progress reports. It sucks.

>> No.17572627

>>17569926
>Maybe a dumb suggestion, but have you considered just working part time for a few years?
It's the ideal suggestion for anyone who can afford it, I absolutely recommend it. It's the 40h work week that is making people exhausted, dull and depressed, because they are only living weekend to weekend anymore. Cut that time in half and it will do wonders for your wellbeing. You will still feel accomplished from doing your share of work, but work won't dictate every waking moment of the week anymore. Hell, depending on your job you might become even more productive than before. Humans were not designed to stay concentrated 8 to 10 hours every day. That said, employers don't merely keep you working for 8 hours for your productive output. The 40h work week is just as much a helpful tool for controling the working class. Keeps the peasants eternally preoccupied so that they don't try to improve their lot in life. Anyone who knows what's good for him should break free of it.