What canonical works disprove this?

[Anonymous No.17554802]

>The key to a woman's heart is masculinity. Being charismatic is masculine, being confident is masculine, being funny is also masculine but they don't want you to know that(girls aren't funny) having vast amounts of resources is also masculine. Women chase money but they don't want money; They want a masculine man. If you have money but you are a meek cowardly man she is gonna fuck the pool boy. You don't want to use money as a crutch. It will not end well. Instead hide your wealth, take mr wallet out of the picture because mr wallet will attract some nasty bitches.
>They want a masculine man both in and out dude. If chad acted like a fruity womanly faggot women will approach him but they will eject from him once his colors emerge. You greatly underestimate how important psychological masculinity is for women.

[Anonymous No.17554813]

>>17554802
I've been informed by a reliable authority that women actually just want to have fun

[Anonymous No.17554819]

>>17554802
None because its true

[Anonymous No.17554848]

>>17554813
That would be "girls" who just want to have fun. As far as I know the data is inconclusive concerning women, but with some luck, we may draw a similar conclusion.

[Anonymous No.17554899]

>>17554802
none because it's true

[Anonymous No.17554921]

>>17554802
Who the fuck cares. If you're over 20 and don't know how to deal with women or have not defined your masculinity, you're defective

Only through personal experience can you understand women and only can you define your masculinity. If you generate masculinity from an external source, you're just playing dress up

[Anonymous No.17554976]

>>17554802
>psychological masculinity is for women.
so what, ideals and sacrifice>anything else.
women operate for everything else over ideals and sacrifice.

[Anonymous No.17554988]

>>17554976
Ideals are feminine, practicalities are masculine.

[Anonymous No.17555000]

>>17554988
what are statues? gods, myths, and art?
practicalities are feminine.

[Anonymous No.17555012]

>>17555000
Good point but the chisel and hammer are the spear of mars, the stone is the mirror of venus. The male penetrates, the female receives.

[Anonymous No.17555019]

>>17554802
test

[Anonymous No.17555033]

>>17554813
>>17554848
"fun" is a flawed term to describe it because it may lead you to believe it's about cracking jokes every now and then. What women need like oxygen is this constant rollercoaster of emotions. They need you to make them cry, to make them angry, and to make them laugh, while you yourself remain unfazed as if you don't give a fuck. Let them wonder in insecurity what is it that you truly think and feel. As soon as you become predictable they get bored and it's over.

[Anonymous No.17555038]

>>17555033
you are making fun sound not very fun

[Anonymous No.17555059]

>>17554988
Not true. Striving for an ideal is inherently masculine. Women act upon transient emotions and whims. Masculinity is about acting based on goals and purpose regardless of emotions, aka self-control.

[Anonymous No.17555091]

>>17555038
As a man you must learn to have fun being dominant and mean to your woman. I learned this from my grandpa. They've been married for 60 years and his wife adores him.
The goal is to make her adopt the submissive role. They LOVE how that role feels because it's their place in the natural order.
That's what they mean when they say they want a man who "puts them in their place". If you can make a woman feel like a subservient dumb little girl around you she will absolutely LOVE you.

[Anonymous No.17555123]

>>17554802
Itt: virgins

[Anonymous No.17555148]

>>17555123
>EVERYONE IS A VIRGIN ON 4CHAN XDDD
This isn't 2008 anymore faggot.

[Anonymous No.17555195]

>>17555059
It's not. Striving for an ideal (as noble as it is) is feminine because ideals by their nature are generally unachievable in full, and folly is a woman's work.

[Anonymous No.17555237]

>>17555195
You are wrong. Admiration is a masculine trait while envy is a feminine trait.
What is feminine folly is to want what you can't have BECAUSE you can't have it, regardless of whether it is good or bad, aka the grass is always greener, aka the spirit of Eve.

[Anonymous No.17555277]

>>17555195
>a weak nature sets himself a difficult life-project
>a strong nature seeks to develop charm
t. Nietzsche

[Anonymous No.17555328]

>>17555033
This further complicates our analysis but I have to admit that I absolutely agree.

[Anonymous No.17555356]

This is some really cringe, low T fap material OP.

[Anonymous No.17555363]

>>17555237
>the grass is always greener
Is idealism tho

[Anonymous No.17555516]

>>17555363
Absolutely not. “Perfect Courage” or “Perfect Self-Control” are ideals to strive for. We find these ideals to be good because they abide to reason, aka what we call “morality”. “The grass is always greener” does not follow reason, but passion/emotion. Eve had paradise, but she wanted the fruit just because it’s the one thing she couldn’t have. That’s a completely different phenomenon from striving for an ideal. An ideal is rational, the “logical conclusion” of what is good, while “the grass is always greener” is completely irrational, a whim born from childish capriciousness.

[Anonymous No.17555537]

>>17555516
Oh god you're retarded.
"perfect courage" does not abide by reason but passion because courage is an emotion you imbecile. You cannot logic yourself into courage if you do not feel courage.
>the grass is always greener
Is an ideal of perfection, you utter mongoloid you.

[Anonymous No.17555544]

>>17554802
That is an incredibly satisfying webm. I chose not to read your green text and risk ruining the contentedness the video gave me.

[Anonymous No.17555552]

>>17555537
Not him, but how is courage an "emotion"? It is a pattern of behavior in spite of an emotion...

[Anonymous No.17555574]

>>17555552
It is a surge of passion that allows you to overcome lesser emotions like fear. It is still an emotion. An inner movement.

[Anonymous No.17555596]

>>17555574
Is "doubt" also an emotion in your view?

[Anonymous No.17555600]

>>17555596
Yes. Thought and emotion go hand in hand.

[Anonymous No.17555609]

>>17555596
>>17555600
Which is to say the thought of doubt produces the feeling of doubt and vice-versa

[Anonymous No.17555668]

>>17555537
>>17555574
Courage is absolutely not an emotion. It is a word that describes the overcoming of an emotion: fear. In other words, it is a form of self-control. In fact, masculinity itself is about self-control, aka about dominating emotion/passion and subjugating it to reason.
Reason is masculine, passion is feminine. The masculine reason must dominate the feminine passion.

[Anonymous No.17555719]

>Women aren't funny
Explain this, then.
Lesbians are still women btw

[Anonymous No.17555752]

>>17555537
>courage is an emotion
Is willing an emotion? Why does courage necessitate a feeling or value?

>the grass is always greener
>Is an ideal of perfection
No, it's based in perspective. You only believe others are better because you are unable to perceive where they are wanting.

[Anonymous No.17555770]

How to get TERF gf?

[Anonymous No.17555778]

>>17555600
>>17555609
>feeling of doubt
I think you are only using the word "feeling" to describe qualia or something which affects the mind. This isn't wrong but it is definitely not in line with your intended use of the word.

[Anonymous No.17555833]

>>17555574
>It is a surge of passion
You don’t understand what courage is at all.

[Anonymous No.17556002]

>>17555237
Disagree. Integrity and admiration are feminine virtues, in that their experience is self-contained and loved for it's own sake. Purpose, courage, and justice are the masculine ideals, I believe.

[Anonymous No.17556077]

>>17554921
>. If you're over 20 and don't know how to deal with women or have not defined your masculinity,
I'm 23, how do you do this if you have autism (asd level 1) and an anxiety disorder?

[Anonymous No.17556099]

>>17556077
I learned how to deal with women by reading romance novels. Try some Tolstoy. Get cheesy if you have to -- try some Radcliffe on for size.

[Anonymous No.17556172]

>>17556002
Ok, what you say makes sense if you think about it abstractly. In practice, however, men respect and admire their betters, while women spitefully resent them. I wouldn’t call the respect and admiration of a man who has proven his bravery to be “feminine” at all.

[Anonymous No.17556338]

i love this webm

[Anonymous No.17556434]

>>17556172
I don't think virtues us particularly common in either sex, and I also think they're a unity, so a woman can have no virtues, but the ideal woman has them all, and the same is true for men. But some virtues are more particular to each. For instance, a man with no ambition but rigidly in his integrity isn't a hero, but he might be a good squire in a story, or a reliable employee in real life. A pirate might still make a great hero, despite questionable morals.

Same goes for women. Jane Eyre wouldn't be much as a hero, but her integrity makes her a great heroine. Cleopatra could've been a great hero, but doesn't work as a heroine because she's too masculine.

[Anonymous No.17556456]

>>17554802
sauce?

[Anonymous No.17556464]

>>17555668
Courage is an emotion. It is a feeling of fortitude in the face of danger and doubt.

>>17555752
>Is willing an emotion
It is an act, a movement. If you will something externally it is an action, if you will it internally it is an emotion.
>Why does courage necessitate a feeling or value
Are you serious? How will you know yourself to be courageous if you don't feel your fear ebbing away? How can you be at all courageous if you don't have something you value enough to be courageous for it? Death of fear is as much a feeling one can experience as growth of fear.

>No, it's based in perspective. You only believe others are better because you are unable to perceive where they are wanting
That's just a strawman. To believe that the grass is greener on the other side is an ideal that things could always be better. Sure, it may be due to folly, but it is an ideal nonetheless.

>>17555833
Enlighten me then.

[Anonymous No.17556501]

What some of you seem to genuinely lack in understanding is the interconnected nature of male and female. The artist's pillar is a male body with a female head, the scholar's pillar is the inverse.

[Anonymous No.17556519]

>>17554802
Cant disprove facts

[Anonymous No.17556635]

>>17555770
Such women are probably deeply uncomfortable around men. They need reassurance and to not be treated like they're just a sex object in the eyes of their (potential) lovers. You need to show her you appreciate her for who she is on the inside, and that you are willing to put in just as much effort into making the relationship work as she does---not freeloading off her generosity.

[Anonymous No.17556645]

>>17554802
ENOUGH

[Anonymous No.17556647]

>>17556077
>how do you do this if you have autism (asd level 1) and an anxiety disorder?
You need a wingman to keep you feeling secure and motivated and focused. You're going to have a very tough time trying to navigate romance on your own without a buddy there to support you.

[Anonymous No.17556657]

>>17556464
>Courage is an emotion. It is a feeling of fortitude in the face of danger and doubt.
Fortitude is not a feeling either, it is a word that describes resilience in the face of adversity. You don't "feel" fortitude. You feel fear and pain. Enduring those is *defined* as "fortitude".
>Enlighten me then.
Courage is similar. You don't feel courage. You feel fear. To act IN SPITE of that fear is defined as courage. That's what makes it courage in the first place.

[Anonymous No.17556666]

>>17556501
>The artist's pillar is a male body with a female head, the scholar's pillar is the inverse.
Wow, I don't understand this at all. That's rare.

[Anonymous No.17556686]

>>17556666
Kabbalah stuff Satan

[Anonymous No.17556705]

>>17555148
Which makes this thread even sadder.

[Anonymous No.17556710]

>>17554802
and how is all this /lit/ you moron?

[Anonymous No.17556729]

>>17556710
Books for this feel?

[Anonymous No.17556736]

>>17556657
>enduring those is defined as fortitude
To feel fear and not let it affect you is still feeling. The difference is only that you disconnect your thoughts and actions from that feeling of fear. That disconnect is the feeling of courage because now you're letting your desire to persevere and overcome affect your thinking. Desire is also a feeling.

[Anonymous No.17556740]

>>17556666
nice
Also btw guys, you really dont want the sauce on this. Op just took the quote and webm from a thread on /fit/, coomers on that board figured out the sauce real fast and its really disturbing. Not memeing, the video takes a hard turn into some serious bdsm shit.

[Anonymous No.17556782]

>>17556736
>To feel fear and not let it affect you is still feeling.
No it is not.
>Desire is also a feeling.
No. Will =! Emotion.

[Anonymous No.17556792]

>>17556740
I don't believe you. That girl is too cute for porn.

[Anonymous No.17556817]

>>17556647
Not that guy but the same issues and 4 years older. All my homies are autistic men or libtard women. What hope do i have of losing my virginity before i hit 30?

[Anonymous No.17556819]

>>17556782
>no it is not
Yes it is because you're still feeling the fear, you're simply not letting it control you.
>Will =! Emotion
I didn't say it was. Desire isn't equal to will either. Will supersedes emotion obviously, as it is that which, in tandem with awareness, brings about both emotion and reason.

[Anonymous No.17556928]

>>17556817
>What hope do i have of losing my virginity before i hit 30?
Considering you're friends with liberal women and haven't tried to have sex with them, you will probably never feel comfortable around women and consequently likely must pay for every sexual interaction which removes the burden of initiation from you.

[Anonymous No.17556944]

>>17556819
>Yes it is because you're still feeling the fear, you're simply not letting it control you.
Exactly. Not letting yourself be controlled by the emotion of fear is the definition of courage. That is not an emotion, it is the overcoming of an emotion through willpower. Willpower is not an emotion.
To do what you don't feel like doing but you know is good, and do avoid doing what you feel like doing but you know is bad is what is generally defined as self-control. Like I said before, courage is a form self-control. You don't act courageously because you feel like it. The brave man feels like avoiding the situation, but he confronts it anyways because he knows it is for the good.

[Anonymous No.17557014]

>>17556792
https://es.pornhub.com/model/soulincontrol
Look at her face in the thumbnails where it isn't blurred, same girl. Let this be a lesson to you. It doesn't matter how sweet or kind a girl seems, deep down they're all whores into fucked up shit. The ideal of a kind caring girl is something men project onto them, its pure fantasy.

[Anonymous No.17557086]

>>17557014
Fuck this gay earth.

[Anonymous No.17557857]

>>17556434
Know what anon? You’ve convinced me. That’s a great point and it made me think.

[Anonymous No.17557971]

>>17557014
speak for yourself jew

[Anonymous No.17558940]

>>17554802

[Anonymous No.17558948]

Masculinity is everything that makes a woman feel more feminine and vice versa. It‘s that delicious experience of difference that is the seed of all sexual tension.

[Anonymous No.17558966]

>>17554802
The better question is why you should care about women in the abstract. The only valuable thing a woman can do for you is be faithful and good, bear your kids, raise them well, and keep the home. Everything else, which unfortunately encompasses our whole sex and dating culture, is pointless nonsense. You might as well just do whatever you want. The standard for masculinity you're seeking is bereft of meaning outside of a eugenic context. It's mental masturbation. It's consumerism. You might as well get buy a Nintendo. You might as well masturbate on sleeping women in the train. You might as well get raped.

[Anonymous No.17558973]

>>17558966
You‘ll never be whole.

[Anonymous No.17558981]

>>17554813
Touch all niiight
Out of this wooorld
Everlastiiing

[Anonymous No.17558999]

>>17556710
/thread
At least mention a book or link OP. No one cares if courage and ideals are masculine or feminine or both or neither.

[Anonymous No.17559043]

I hate that gif

[Anonymous No.17559048]

>>17558966
You might as well be a porn addict. You might as well be Harvey Weinstein. You might as well collect stamps. You might as well spend all your money on OnlyFans or at strip clubs. You might as well be Dan Bilzerian. You might as well gain 200 kilograms. You might as well be a transexual. You might as well fuck 1000 women regardless of their characteristics. Any such outcome could be equally masculine under the confused definition you're grasping for so desperately. Instead of trying to figure out what's masculine a better line of inquiry would be trying to figure out why the definition of such a fundamental thing is so elusive to you.

[Anonymous No.17559352]

>>17555148
You're correct. Now there are significantly more virgins here than there were in 2008.

[Anonymous No.17559383]

>>17555019
icles

[Anonymous No.17559413]

This post is cope. You're not masculine faggot.

[Anonymous No.17559426]

>>17557014
Men believing women need them is also a pure male fantasy. They can't bear with the idea that they aren't actually needed and they're waste on the environment, so they make up shit about females and cripple them.