THE QUESTION

[Anonymous No.17539114]

be honest:
are you a midwit?

[Anonymous No.17539121]

>>17539114
Somewhat

[Anonymous No.17539124]

Yes and that makes me sad

[Anonymous No.17539125]

>>17539114
In all likelihood yes

[Anonymous No.17539128]

yeah but thats fine, dont matter

[Anonymous No.17539137]

>>17539114
I don't care. It doesn't make a difference.

[Anonymous No.17539149]

>>17539114
no I have a math degree and think Kant was right about everything

[Anonymous No.17539161]

>>17539149
>and think Kant was right about everything
Mid confirmed

[Anonymous No.17539168]

Tfw have no education after high-school

[Anonymous No.17539188]

>>17539114
no

[Anonymous No.17539204]

>>17539114
If any human being, man, woman, dog, cat or half-crushed worm dares call me ‘midwit’ I will take my pen and stab him, dead.”

[Anonymous No.17539246]

I think I'm a hair above, so pretty much.

[Anonymous No.17539270]

i suspect the ultimate midwits are men who are willing to honestly grapple with the question but ultimately deem themselves high IQ. they are beyond help

[Anonymous No.17539279]

>>17539270
this >>17539204 being the exception to the rule, obviously

[Anonymous No.17539293]

>>17539114
Yeah. But at least I can hold an OK job as a software engineer, buy books and live a relatively comfortable life. I know that I'll never produce anything of note, but at least I can appreciate those who did.

[Anonymous No.17539302]

>>17539114
im beginning to think i am

[Anonymous No.17539448]

>>17539114
yes you cumslut, you cumsucker, oh fuck yeas
giv eme the cummy cockefuck

[Anonymous No.17539459]

>>17539168
Same, if anything I'm a brainlet. Idk what I'm even doing on /lit/

[Anonymous No.17539472]

>>17539149
>thinks degree suggests elevation above midwit status
Confirmed midwit

[Anonymous No.17539490]

>>17539472
i suspect this is an anon trying to make fun of a certain kind of midwit. unfortunately this is midwit behaviour in of itself

[Anonymous No.17539495]

>>17539114
I think im dumb but im probably upper-midwit. A lot of people I know consider me smart and I don't want to belittle their intelligence by calling myself an idiot.

[Anonymous No.17539501]

>>17539495
yeah this is basically where i am with it

[Anonymous No.17539523]

>>17539114
I used to think so but I realised I’m superior to a large portion of the population. I only know one person who is smarter than me and I value his friendship.

[Anonymous No.17539531]

>>17539114
No, I have a confirmed IQ of 90.

[Anonymous No.17539539]

>>17539114
Intelligence is important when you're a kid, because it affects how quickly you pick up on all the information and education that everyone receives as a kid. However, once you grow into adulthood, your actions matter much more than your innate abilities 99% of the time. No, a midwit isn't going to be a famous writer or philosopher, but most intelligent people never achieve that, either.

[Brainlet No.17539549]

Yeah probably

[Anonymous No.17539552]

>>17539539
Smells like midwit cope.

[Anonymous No.17539560]

>>17539552
I'm actually not a midwit, just trying to provide some comfort to the people here. Hope it helped you

[Anonymous No.17539601]

I was the kid in uni that gave all the rich kids imposter syndrome.
None of that matters though because >>17539539 is right, and when you're stuck in dead end minimum wage hell nobody gives a fuck about how smart you are.

[Anonymous No.17539621]

>>17539114
Yes. But there needs to be more distinction between different midwits.
The worst midwits are the ones who are within 1 standard deviation of average. I'm more than 1 standard deviation above average, but less than 2. I am stuck in limbo between the most insufferable midwits, and actual respectable academics.

[Anonymous No.17539631]

>>17539114
I drink to make myself one. It is not as effective as it used to be.

[Anonymous No.17539633]

>>17539560
>I'm actually not a midwit.

Only midwit would make such a claim.

[Anonymous No.17539737]

>>17539633
midwit tier fallacy

[Anonymous No.17539755]

>>17539114
Not a pretentious faggot, so no.

[Anonymous No.17539757]

>>17539737
>Repeats my insult.

Text book middlewit.

[Anonymous No.17539778]

>>17539757
>repeats my insult back at me
Are you even trying right now? I call you a midwit and all you can come up with is "uhhh midwit detected!!!!!!!!!"

[Anonymous No.17539781]

>>17539114
My head is empty.

[Anonymous No.17539867]

>>17539114
I currently am, but I believe I would be high IQ if I could break my internet and porn addiction

[Anonymous No.17539924]

I'm a dimwit and I'm proud

[Anonymous No.17540187]

>>17539114
>be honest
>are you a midwit?
would a perfect score on the AP or ACT or SAT English portions sufficiently prove otherwise?

[Anonymous No.17540194]

>>17539114
I admit
I have no wit
that is it

[Anonymous No.17540199]

>>17539601
>I was the kid in uni that gave all the rich kids imposter syndrome.
I'm not sure I accomplished that, but I did end up finding my peers in my relatively esteemed small liberal arts college disturbingly fraudulent as far as intellectual merit goes.

[I hate women No.17540218]

>>17539490
based

[Anonymous No.17540228]

>>17539114
I went to Harvard

[Anonymous No.17540232]

>>17540228
so yes?

[Anonymous No.17540234]

>>17539539
>once you grow into adulthood, your actions matter much more than your innate abilities 99% of the time. No, a midwit isn't going to be a famous writer or philosopher, but most intelligent people never achieve that, either
>>17539601
>None of that matters though because >>17539539 is right, and when you're stuck in dead end minimum wage hell nobody gives a fuck about how smart you are.

I think the issue is is that really intelligent people oftentimes underestimate their own potential, and don't see themselves as all that different or special compared to their peers, perhaps because they have in their own minds a far higher standard of ability which is easy to consider oneself paling against.
Plus there's a tendency toward nihilism which drains them of effort and ambition, leading to pathways they really shouldn't be in, and might very well end up deadended in.
It's a shame society doesn't actually pursue nor reward raw intellectual capacity. There's not really a push for intelligent youths to occupy noble positions in society; the world is dominated by their lessers.

[Anonymous No.17540247]

>>17540232
I went to Yale

[Anonymous No.17540255]

>>17540247
Not him but I find that more impressive. Should I?

[Anonymous No.17540258]

>>17540247
am him and based

[Anonymous No.17540265]

>>17540247
I always assumed Harvard is for Jews, Yale is for Asians. Is that right?

[Anonymous No.17540268]

>>17540255
I went to MIT

[I hate women No.17540269]

>>17540187
no

[Anonymous No.17540276]

>>17540268
Then you're on the wrong board.

[Anonymous No.17540277]

>>17539114
no I'm a total retard

[Anonymous No.17540279]

>>17540187
test taking is a skill midwits can develop and occasionally have naturally

[Anonymous No.17540286]

>>17540276
what? this is mostly a philosophy board, and STEM people are basically the only ones who can actually understand philosophy (which explains why philo threads are so shit here)

[Anonymous No.17540300]

>>17540199
If you want to dab on midwits memorize a couple barnum statements and whip them out at parties, people will think you're Sherlock Holmes and woman will fall in love with you.

>>17540234
Eh people who are self conscious and underestimate their potential are those who never had to earn their place in the first place. Usually upper class types, you can sniff them out like a shark. Lots of the PoC movements are from rich black kids overcompensating for this exact feeling.
'Potential' doesn't mean jack shit, especially if you can't back it up with anything tangible.
At the end of the day you need to advocate for yourself and make your own luck, not blame society for not recognizing your genius.

[Anonymous No.17540301]

>>17540279
>test taking
This isn't about being able to take tests. You can practice these tests ten times and still never actually comprehend the material enough to be able to score superbly, let alone perfectly. I took maybe 4 practice tests my Junior year and still scored unimpressively in Math compared to my others when the real deal came 'round.
I doubt the majority of /lit/ could get a perfect in English/Reading.

[Anonymous No.17540312]

>>17540301
idk. I got a 4 in AP lit and 34 / 1500 on ACT/SAT with no prep whatsoever.

[Anonymous No.17540323]

>>17540276
Not at all. The staggering amount of retards here give me an overwhelming dopamine fix. It's about the same as talking to a humanities major at Harvard or Yale.

[Anonymous No.17540326]

>>17540300
I don't agree with him blaming society, but I can understand what he's saying about smart people's tendency to be hypercritical and feel inadequate has probably limited the number of geniuses we've seen relative to the number that could have been.

[Anonymous No.17540333]

>>17540301
>I doubt the majority of /lit/ could get a perfect in English/Reading.
I did and none of that potential has gone into anything beyond shitposts on /lit/ and sometimes /int/.

[Anonymous No.17540334]

I’m a lawyer and I’m fucking retarded.

[Anonymous No.17540342]

>>17539114
at best
more likely a pleb
tho I'm 18

[Anonymous No.17540353]

>>17540333
>I did and none of that potential has gone into anything beyond shitposts on /lit/ and sometimes /int/.
For reasons possibly which have been explained in this thread.
But just because you waste your time posting on /lit/ rather than writing the next great global novel doesn't mean you're a midwit.

[Anonymous No.17540365]

>>17540342
>tho I'm 18
better than most of the people posting here

[Anonymous No.17540378]

>>17540326
It's because those people aren't smart, they're well educated.
You're worth what you can produce, not what your parents paid some professional to tell you to boost your self esteem.
80% of people at universities are midwits who are just cognizant enough to realize that their PhD is a waste of time and money but too over-socialized to drop out and produce something on their own.
If you feel inadequate you probably are. If you're paying thousands of dollars to be told how intelligent you are, you aren't. Simple as.
It's better to realize this young and put in the hard work of building a life you can be proud of, rather than waiting till you're thirty-four a 100k in debt.

[Anonymous No.17540392]

No. I'm not impressed by self-aggrandizing writing styles devoid of intellectual substance. I'll happily imitate them, though.

[Anonymous No.17540412]

>>17540353
>For reasons possibly which have been explained in this thread.
Explain.
Anyways I'm happy with posting on /lit/. My writing is archived and sometimes is copy-pasted around 4chan by others. Probably my ideas reach a far wider audience through this medium than they would as a formally published piece (which would require a large amount of self-censorship), and I'm not so vain or stupid that I particularly want my name connected to some of the stuff I've written.

[Anonymous No.17540414]

>>17540378
>It's because those people aren't smart, they're well educated
No, that's not what the post is talking about. Not even going to bother reading the rest of your post because you're just masturbating to some anti-education idea in your mind.
The poster was clearly talking about people who were fundamentally very similar to our great artists -- Shakespeare, Joyce, Faulkner, etc. -- but lacked the confidence to do anything with it. Kafka is a great example, he published almost nothing in his lifetime because of his fears of inadequacy. He wrote some good stuff, but he didn't even finish his most important works -- and it's not because he couldn't have. It was a psychological block. It's not difficult to imagine there are many people like Kafka who could have been great, but had even more severe feelings of inadequacy that caused them to never even try.

[Anonymous No.17540441]

>>17539924
based

[Anonymous No.17540448]

>>17540414
>people who were fundamentally very similar to our great artists -- Shakespeare, Joyce, Faulkner, etc. -- but lacked the confidence to do anything with it. Kafka is a great example, he published almost nothing in his lifetime because of his fears of inadequacy. He wrote some good stuff, but he didn't even finish his most important works -- and it's not because he couldn't have. It was a psychological block. It's not difficult to imagine there are many people like Kafka who could have been great, but had even more severe feelings of inadequacy that caused them to never even try.
exactly

[Anonymous No.17540506]

>>17540414
If Kafka dies alone without ever having written or published anything, did he really exist in the first place?
It's easy to have potential, but it doesn't mean anything. Hell, think about all the books that were written, published, widely disseminated, copied for generations by hand by various scholars, only to be burned up with the library of Alexandria or something like that.
greatness is a relative thing, personally I'm more impressed by people like Rupi Kaur who self promote the hell out of themselves and get big through their own hard work and cunning. We live in a time of democratic mobs, not aristocratic patrons, and if your art doesn't reflect this it means you lack basic awareness of fundamental social changes which have been happening over the last 60 years.

[Anonymous No.17540520]

>>17539204
What about full-crushed worms?

[Anonymous No.17540540]

>>17540506
>If Kafka dies alone ... mid he really exist
Yes, obviously... was this supposed to be deep or something?
>It's easy to have potential, but it doesn't mean anything
Yeh... nobody disputed that. You literally don't understand the point of the post being discussed. Why are you shifting the discussion to something completely unrelated?

[Anonymous No.17540548]

>>17540540
Looks like you've spotted a midwit.

[Anonymous No.17540569]

>>17539114
What’s the IQ cutoff for midwit? 130?

[Anonymous No.17540579]

>>17540569
>What’s the IQ cutoff for midwit? 130?
Essentially. 129 IQ is king of midwits.

[Anonymous No.17540580]

>>17540548
they're not difficult to spot, but with most of them, you can still make a convincing argument and they'll agree. The thing distinguishing midwits from intelligent people is not the ability to process information but the ability to derive new ideas without someone doing it for them. Plenty of midwits have been exposed to reasonable ideas and aren't completely useless. The problem is when a midwit mistakes himself for something more.

[Anonymous No.17540584]

i'm a dimwit, trying to get into reading by starting Death in Venice and i'm having to look up like one or two words a page.

[Anonymous No.17540585]

>>17539114
I don't even know what that word mean at that point.
That said I'm very good at sounding more intelligent than I am, so I'm pretty much a top-tier pseud.

[Anonymous No.17540604]

>>17540579
Interesting. For whatever reason I still think MENSA is midwit tier even if it’s not technically true

[Anonymous No.17540610]

>>17539114
Contrarian midwit, the worst of both worlds

[Anonymous No.17540633]

>>17539114
I have degrees in Maths and Physics, I speak 4 languages, I blagged my way into Mensa when I was a teenager although I've been ignoring their emails for years now, I read dozens of books every year and have a wide range of interests and hobbies. Most of all though I know how perfectly average I am and and content with my lot in life, deluding yourself into thinking you are exceptional is the pitfall of the midwit.

[Anonymous No.17540649]

>>17540365
ill be honest when I was in high-school I knew these film junkies who used to like /lit/ band they would always talk about how "impenetrable" Pynchon and James Joyce are, joking about the " stately plump buck mulligan"

[Anonymous No.17540662]

>>17540569
>>17540579
135 gang checkin in

[Anonymous No.17540669]

>>17539114
yes. my iq has been tested once at 130 then again at 120. doesn't seem reasonable to spend all your life whining about only being a little bit above average though. life's a bitch and then you die.

[Anonymous No.17540671]

>>17540506
>If Kafka dies alone without ever having written or published anything, did he really exist in the first place?
If you aspired to midwitdom I'd say you were being overly optimistic

[Anonymous No.17540673]

>>17540569
>>17540579
So if 115 to 129 is midwit tier, what's 114? King of the normies?

[Anonymous No.17540674]

so?

[Anonymous No.17540681]

>>17540673
Average Malcom Gladwell Enjoyer

[Anonymous No.17540685]

>>17540673
Yep

[Anonymous No.17540691]

>>17540681
>>17540685
Thank goodness, I'm not a midwit after all.

[Anonymous No.17540693]

>>17539114
Yes.

[Anonymous No.17540717]

>>17539114
Beats me

[Anonymous No.17540780]

>>17540540
>You literally don't understand the point of the post being discussed.
That we need to nurture and cultivate the innate brilliance of people?
It's not going to happen. There are a small amount of intellectual jobs worth doing, and those quickly get filled with privileged gatekeepers who have every motivation to prevent promising aspirants from competing with them. Anything else, you need to make for yourself, and nobody is going to help you with that.
I don't think intelligence exists. The real world exists, not some masturbatory fantasy in your mind. There are a lot of authors who did publish and were just as good as Kafka, but Kafka captured the imagination of people. If he hadn't been who he was nobody would care about hm.
So stop worrying about society and start worrying about what you personally can do to advance your own abilities and skills.

[Anonymous No.17540786]

>>17540780
>That we need to nurture and cultivate the innate brilliance of people?
Nope. You don't get it.

[Anonymous No.17540788]

>>17539114
I don't know

[Anonymous No.17540796]

>>17540786
What you don't understand is that "potential" isn't a real thing

[Anonymous No.17540805]

>>17539114
I don't loot shops and I don't have a toy train collection, so probably.

[Anonymous No.17540813]

Yes and no

[Anonymous No.17540821]

>>17539114
I like to poopoo hmmm smell haha

[Anonymous No.17540845]

>>17540780
>>17540786
>>17540796
Nobody said potential was real. Holy shit, how can you be on this board and be so obtuse? You must be a /phi/ poster.

[Anonymous No.17540860]

>>17539114
no, just lazy and ignorant genius
>>17539149
retard alert
>>17540673
yeah, pretty much.

[Anonymous No.17540864]

>>17540780
>>17540786
>>17540796
>>17540845
Just to avoid this conversation continuing indefinitely, the original poster was simply acknowledging the loss of what could have been. Nobody is claiming that the world needs to make it easier for artists. There isn't any prescription. It's just an acknowledgment of the world as it is, and that there are unfortunate things that happen in it.
>I don't think intelligence exists
Ahh... I see your problem. Intelligence most definitely does exist. I can't cure you of your religion. I'm sorry. Maybe you'll figure it out and get better on your own.

[Anonymous No.17540897]

>>17540300
I would've scored about 1 or 2 if he gave me that test

[Anonymous No.17540902]

>>17539114
No I'm a dimwit

[Anonymous No.17540937]

>>17540897
Yes, well, I'm sure you're kind of person who often feels alone in a crowd. People who post on 4chan tend to be more individuated than most, even if they don't tend to express it.

[Anonymous No.17540939]

>>17540902
Based

[Anonymous No.17540989]

>>17540937
I feel physically uncomfortable in a crowd but not "alone." Most of the points I disagree with in the test are the ones that lack self-confidence. I suppose I am more confident and assertive than the average person.

[Anonymous No.17541004]

>>17540989
Of course. Clearly you are an independent thinker and proud of it.

[Anonymous No.17541006]

>>17540864
>the original poster was simply acknowledging the loss of what could have been. Nobody is claiming that the world needs to make it easier for artists. There isn't any prescription. It's just an acknowledgment of the world as it is, and that there are unfortunate things that happen in it
you sir are actually intelligent

[Anonymous No.17541018]

>>17541004
No, I'm not a fully independent thinker. I just have an accurate view of myself

[Anonymous No.17541065]

>>17541018
I'm sure you know well your weaknesses and cover them with your strengths, but it seems like you're holding back and being intentionally vague. We're all anonymous here, you can be frank about the kind of person you are.

[Anonymous No.17541206]

>>17541065
My weaknesses are probably common to all, just typical weaknesses of the human condition: Not enough knowledge in certain areas (which leads to thought-dependence on others to fill in the gaps, meaning I am not really an "independent thinker" unless we are speaking of pure logic or something entirely mind-dependent), not enough time to do everything I want to do, my brain isn't as quick as it could be if I were a chess grandmaster, I have carnal urges which sometimes distract me from more important things. Apart from these common problems, my strength that sets me apart from others is frankness about my own condition and, generally speaking, the total baseness of most of my person, which is in common with the majority of people, intelligent and stupid. Knowing this, it sets me apart because I have a clear view of the forces moving around within me and I can deal with them before they become a problem.

[Anonymous No.17541276]

>>17539114
Im THE definition of mid-wit

[Anonymous No.17541298]

>>17541206
No u hot

[Anonymous No.17541325]

>>17541298
You're hot too anon, but try to write with hot grammar so I don't feel like I'm lying next time

[Anonymous No.17541342]

>>17539114
I am less than a midwit.

[Anonymous No.17541348]

>>17541206
Interesting. I bet you had a rough puberty to come to these conclusions about yourself and that level of self confidence.
I can tell you're a freak in bed too.