/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.17535943]

Unironically what is the point of reading fiction

[Anonymous No.17535948]

>>17535943
entertainment, desu

[Anonymous No.17535950]

>>17535948
Is that it?

[Anonymous No.17535953]

>>17535943
Wisdom

[Anonymous No.17535956]

>>17535943
Elevate. Enrich. Educate

[Anonymous No.17535964]

>>17535943
Delaying suicide.

[Anonymous No.17535966]

>>17535950
well, there's some philosophical outtakes you can get from them if you really care to understand, like say, lazarillo de tormes can be a good book to help you understand how parenting is really important on one hand and that imperial spain was a shitty place to live in and that the clergy is not all what it was made it be, you can understand such things through fiction, but in the other hand a direct treatise touching such subjects in a rigid and scientific manner would probably be a lot more helpful, so yeah entertainment, desu

[Anonymous No.17535989]

Why don't you go unironically read a book about it, nerd.

[Anonymous No.17535990]

>>17535966
also lazarillo can also be a demonstration about how if you're a lazy ass that wants an easy way out in life you're gonna end up a cuck, kind of like how today we trade freedom for safety and become good little cucks for the government
i guess on this side fiction is superior since the argument (freedom vs safety) is a much more philosophical one

[Anonymous No.17535993]

>>17535943
what is the point of NOT reading fiction?

[Anonymous No.17536004]

Poetry and fiction is for curious people with soul

Philosophy is for curious people who couldn't do math

[Anonymous No.17536025]

>>17536004
>Philosophy is for curious people who couldn't do math
that's sweet.
philosophy is for people who want to be smart, but aren't.

[Anonymous No.17536032]

>>17535993
I guess that you could read non fiction instead and you're more likely to be reliably informed about how the world works, while also being entertained

[Anonymous No.17536042]

>>17536004
Based take

>>17536004
Kek imagine getting filtered by philosophy

[Anonymous No.17536046]

Nothing pisses me off more than when people browsing 4chan call something else a waste of a time.

[Anonymous No.17536050]

>>17536032
>more likely to be reliably informed about how the world works
debatable
>while also being entertained
occasionally

[Anonymous No.17536052]

>>17535943
>>17535989
>reading fiction? sorry bro but I only WRITE fiction

[Anonymous No.17536061]

>>17536046
it's likely a faggot /v/tard that got bored, but anyway there's no reason not to participate i mean we justify our hobbies now tbqh

[Anonymous No.17536065]

>>17535943
Fiction says, and influences, more about reality and desired realities than non-fiction does. There’s a paragraph in Jünger’s Storm of Steel where he mentions just before the outbreak of war, young men were inflamed by passions and had their fires stoked by fiction. That always stuck with me for some reason.

[Anonymous No.17536071]

>>17536046
I didn't call it a waste of time, I was asking unironically. I am genuinely interested to hear what people think.

[Anonymous No.17536080]

>>17536046
based

[Anonymous No.17536154]

>>17535943
Does it have to have a point?

[Anonymous No.17536178]

>>17536025
T. Autist

[Anonymous No.17536182]

>>17536154
Yes

[Anonymous No.17536196]

>>17535943
>Unironically what is the point of [appreciating art]
Soulless bugmen are not welcome on /lit/, you should stay on /sci/ and /v/

[Anonymous No.17536222]

>>17536196
Hey asshole, I really am asking. Is it not an interesting question? Gimme your thoughts DFW poster

[Anonymous No.17536274]

>>17536178
>durr hurr I need three books to tell me what any idiot with a beer and an hour of free time can puzzle out on their own.
people who consume more than surface level philosophy think they're smart because they know a lot of jargon and german loanwords, but you're fucking stupid.

[Anonymous No.17536281]

>>17536222
>Is it not an interesting question?
No, it's not an interesting question.

[Anonymous No.17536292]

>>17536281
Yeah, cos you can't think of a good answer

[Anonymous No.17536293]

>>17535943
What's the point in doing anything?

[Anonymous No.17536308]

>>17536292
No, because it's a dumbshit question.
And
>>17536196
is right. being too stupid to understand the inherent value of stories, something that even pre-humans understood is not an interesting point of discussion.

[Anonymous No.17536331]

>>17536308
>is right. being too stupid to understand the inherent value of stories

I am a deeply stupid person. Please explain this to me like I'm a five year old.

[Anonymous No.17536381]

>>17536331
I'm not a fucking kindergarten teacher, dumbass, I don't have the patience to explain the entire history of stories to you. fucking google it.

[Anonymous No.17536397]

>>17536042
Philsophers are mathematicians and scientists who got proven wrong

[Anonymous No.17536401]

>>17535943
to lose braincells

[Anonymous No.17536411]

>>17536274
And you're just as stupid, no chance to exempt your self there.

[Anonymous No.17536494]

>>17536411
I'm not, but nice try.

[Anonymous No.17536677]

>>17536222
Art elevates reality in an abstract manner, primarily by the demonstration of beauty. This is done in a way unachievable by the presentation of fact by drawing things together and truly seeing through another perspective rather than just the statement of what that perspective is, flawed by the writers own subjective views of that perspective, art is all perspective. Art is also about pulling harmony out of the universe, it is one of the most divine things we have.
If you aren’t instinctively aware of something along these lines you are ngmi. Even children instinctively know the importance of representation of the world through abstract perspective and emboldening the real.

[Anonymous No.17536798]

>>17536677
>beauty
What exactly do people mean by beauty when they say this? Like what counts as beautiful? I'm genuinely not trying to be hacky or obtuse here. I know people intuitively think of "beauty" as meaning great landscapes, large golden statures, physically attractive women, etc. But what about art that wouldn't be considered classically "beautiful"? Like Beckett's Endgame, or McCarthy's Blood Meridian, or Lynch's Eraserhead? Are they "beautiful" too?

[Anonymous No.17536807]

>>17536032
Non-fiction teaches you what's true, fiction shows you what's real...

[Anonymous No.17536810]

>>17536807
Damn...

[Anonymous No.17536836]

>>17536798
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder

[Anonymous No.17536860]

whats the point of anything, doofus? its to enjoy yourself or learn something. or experience. or whatever you want the point to be. whatever. to mindmeld with some other schmuck for a few hours. whats the point of YOUR favorite thing to do, OP?

[Anonymous No.17536871]

>>17535943
To experience the sublime.

[Anonymous No.17536882]

>>17536860
>whats the point of YOUR favorite thing to do, O

I actually love reading but I guess I've been feeling down recently and have had a hard time getting motivated to get back into because I can't see the point for some reason. Quarantine is probably just melting my brain

[Anonymous No.17536904]

>>17536798
>But what about art that wouldn't be considered classically "beautiful"? Like Beckett's Endgame, or McCarthy's Blood Meridian, or Lynch's Eraserhead? Are they "beautiful" too?
Yes, I haven’t seen Endgame (I’m very inexperienced in theatre) but Eraserhead and certainly Blood Meridian are beautiful. The grotesque has its own kind of beauty if shown in the right way. Beauty can be the abstract demonstration of truth.

[Anonymous No.17536908]

>>17536904
Fair enough, I guess I was being too specific in my defintion

[Anonymous No.17536933]

>>17536381
cringe
>>17536677
based

[Anonymous No.17536951]

>>17536882
Ya ur right its prolly better to just watch the new ep of wandavision