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>removed everything good from Nietzsche and created a bluepilled globohomo version of him
>fused him with 3 jews
>unironic Marxist despite being a """Nietzschean"""
>gay
>is the patron saint of trannies
>created accelerationism
>was a pedo
>thought that not cutting your dick off was fascism
>killed himself
Cringe. Literally the worst philosopher

>> No.17526943

That's what I call Riding the Tiger.

>> No.17526953

>>17526922
>>removed everything good from Nietzsche
I'm sure you mean the fascism but I'm sorry to inform you Nietzsche wasn't fascist and never will, no matter what /pol/ tells you.
>>fused him with 3 jews
Why does this matter? Nietzsche despised antisemitism.

>> No.17526956

>globohomo
people that unironically use this word should be lobotomized

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>>17526922
go back brainlet rat

>> No.17527005

>>17526922
he killed himself at 70 and only because his illness was probably unbearable at that point, he lived a decently long life other than that. dunno why people bring up his suicide at all

>> No.17527007

>>17526953
Neither he was socialist or a cringe commie. He opposed egalitarianism, socialism and similar ideologies. His interpretation of Nietzsche is truly flawed in many ways. Dilate.

>> No.17527116

>>17527007
>His interpretation of Nietzsche is truly flawed in many ways.
one example?

>> No.17527143

>>17526973
Hey anon, some people just don't like jews, you don't need to throw a tantrum about it every time

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>>17527143
this

>> No.17527174

>>17527143
it just worsens already shit quality of discourse on this site
>guys ooga booga he was a jooo!! AAAAA I'm going INSAAAANEEE debunked discredited thrown in the trash

>> No.17527220

>>17527174
Go to leftypol if you want an echo chamber pussy.

>> No.17527229

>>17527220
go to /pol/ if you want to circlejerk nazi trash

>> No.17527235

>>17527229
Are you jewish? Be honest with us we won't bully you

>> No.17527243

>>17527229
you first liberal and possible kike

>> No.17527281

>>17526953
>>17526956
>>17526973
>>17527116
>>17527174
>>17527229
GOTT'EM lmao
trannies big mad.

>> No.17527284

>>17526956
Imean these "people" are basically just purpose engineered biopolitical clientele for neoliberalism, they dont breed, dont think, can be relied upon to buy rainbow colored indulgences from disneygooglepepsico and shut down anyone who deviates from the global HR NYT dnc party line even on the slightest. Being homo or transphobic is the anticlericalism of our time. I refuse to believe these people even have sex, they virtue signal and engage in shrill politically correct activities at the behest of george soros and their marxist proffesors, whatever it is they do is purely sanctimonious and utterly devoid of eroticism. If anything they are a disgrace to true perversion and sodomy, the divine marquis (de sade) would feel nothing but the utmost contempt for them, besides all the remaining recalcitrant libertines have long decamped for the greener pastures of the radical right.

>> No.17527299

>>17527235
>>17527243
lol your pol is showing, shoo shoo away little mongoloids. this is a nietzsche thread, both lefties and pol retards get the bullet

>> No.17527301

If you wrote after 1920 and you don't have at least one sentence of modal or predicate logic in your book, I'm not reading your cringe conty shit

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>>17527301

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>>17527007
based nietzche

>> No.17527332

>>17527299
Nigger please. Most worthy continental philosophers throughout history have been racist. Aristotle, potentially Plato, Augustine, Kant, Kierkegaard, Schmitt. Nietzsche was probably anti-semitic, which is the only common ground I have with him.

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>>17527309
>implying the germans didn't invent analytic philosophy
>implying you aren't a pseud who jerks off to retards like Althusser

>> No.17527336

>>17527332
Hegel was racist too

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>>17527301
>modal

>> No.17527352

>>17527336
I'm not huge on him but damn that's based (as well as his panentheism).

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>>17527332

nigga did you just call Aristotle and Plato continental philosophy, this is actually the smallest brain Phil take I've ever seen on /lit/

>they lived on the continent so it must be continental

>> No.17527374

>>17527332
they were racist because they were strong and didnt care much about other races, not enough to build their whole worldview around da jooooooooooz. Pol retards like you on the other hand are weak, have no ideas and virtues of their own and to compensate it they turn to da jooooooooos and build their whole worldview around ressentiment, also
>Nietzsche was probably anti-semitic, which is the only common ground I have with him.
go read nietzsche you stupid faggot

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>>17527355
>they lived on the continent so it must be continental
The absolute [united] state[s] of this board lmao

>> No.17527407

>>17526922
Bro you misread Deleuze.
Take the ontology of him and decouple it from your idea of his political views and you get Nietzsche's Sentiment coupled with Kant's rigour.
Deleuze was never that much against Fascism as he was against bureaucracy. His thought is one that affirms creation and decision at every moment, how can that not be an authoritarianism for those that are willing to conquer new territory? Deleuze doesn't hate authority, he just wants it to be creative and daring.
And that's why Deleuze was more rightwing than he himself would have believed. Guattari was cringe tho.

>> No.17527410

>>17527355
I regard most Philosophy before the 19th and 20th century as Continental, though some of it may have a more logical focus.
>>17527374
Nietzsche was a relativist on truth, cringe, Nietzsche thought Christianity was slave-morality in its altruistic tendencies, which is an autistic perspective, Nietzsche thought that the attainment of power is satisfactory towards happiness, which I find baffling. I quite like Schopenhauer, especially his views on suffering and asceticism, but Nietzsche bastardized his philosophy. Nietzsche's anti-Semitism is his only redeemable trait to me.

>> No.17527422

>>17526922
I mean have you tried bringing up western philosopher for that matter around your local lgbtsjwtfnpc marxist cattle? In no time you will see their little stupid cowlike eyes light up in panic. Soon enough they will start with the usual subhuman bleating "wasnt he sexist? Arent you being dangerously eurocentric? Why read books by dead white men when you could have been streaming the latest diverse and inclusive workplace comedies at netflix hulu and disneygo?how is this comductive to the electoral ends of the democratic party? You should know reading anything besides the NYT or YA literature is ableist against those who are too retarded to read. What are you an alt right russian bot trump supporter? Have you been taking your SSRIs and HRT? it is very important that you take the medication dr goldstein prescribed otherwise we will have to report you to corporate for mandatory sensitivity training"

>> No.17527428

>>17527410
who cares about your preferences, this isnt your blog

>> No.17527451

>>17527284
Read that post again. I was talking about imbeciles like you. You should be lobotomized.

>> No.17527455

>>17526922

>Bluepilled
>Globohomo
>Jews
>Muh Marxism
>Gays, trannies

Get the fuck off this board and slither back to /pol/ if you can't have real dialogue about philosophy.

>> No.17527457

>>17527428
I gave reasons as to why he's overrated after someone insinuated that I'm unaware of his Philosophy. Faggot.

>> No.17527470

>>17527407
The healthy response to reading deleuze and foucault is not to become a resentful idpol tranny but to move to the west coast drop lots of psychedelics, get swole, become the CEO of a blockchain nootropics startup or military industrial war machine surveillance contractor/ polyamorous cult.

>> No.17527477

>>17526922
>gay
didn't he have a qt gf?

>> No.17527479

>>17527470
BASED

>> No.17527486

>>17527335
>implying the germans didn't invent analytic philosophy
they didn't

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someone should wipe out every pol retard on this board

>> No.17527494

>>17527407
>he just wants it to be creative and daring.
and that's why he was a marxist and a communist, thanks.

>> No.17527495

>>17527332
Wait, you like philosophers in terms of whether or not you share views with them? That's the most reddit, most womanly reason to like them.

>> No.17527512

>>17527495
Well I also acknowledge originality of thought but largely focus on those sharing my same values (as a Christian and idealist)

>> No.17527513

>>17527486
Why is that the defenders of continental philosophy are so obsessed with historicism yet know nothing about the history of philosophy?

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>>17527407
Please kill yourself.

>> No.17527527

>>17527470
> Implying the swole west coast psychedelic using CEOs of a blockchain nootropics startups and military industrial war machine surveillance contractors are not in idpol tranny polyamorous cults

>> No.17527531

>>17527407
>was never that much against Fascism
Please read Anti-Oedipus

>> No.17527537

>>17527525
cope from someone who doesn't understand left/right. every person is left centre or right you just don't know what they mean and you don't understand people in general

>> No.17527539

>>17527512
You're a Christian yet anti-semitic and racist?? How does that work?

>> No.17527540

>>17527470
>>17527527
Need to become a fund without hedges.

>> No.17527548

>>17527539
Read some history books.

>> No.17527560

>>17527512
How are you a Christian and an idealist? I know this word is overused here but that's literal gnosticism.

>> No.17527563

>>17527407
>Deleuze was never that much against Fascism
only on /lit/ you get to read shit like this

>> No.17527567

>>17527548
I'm talking about the principle. You can't be Christian AND racist.

>> No.17527588

>>17527563
There are lengthy passages in TP explaining how capitalism creates the third world even inside metropoles concluding that we should all become Black and female ethically speaking. Totally a fascist.

>> No.17527631

>>17527560
Okay so I believe God to be both immanent and transcendent through the trinity. He manifests himself in three aspects. Panentheism just makes sense to me. God is the single irreducible substance, but that substance has modes and attributes.
>>17527567
Yes I can. Though I believe most people can be redeemed, there are definitive opponents towards the faith and our believers. Jews have been quite antagonistic throughout history, and since the 19th century, their cultural and moral subversion has become obvious. Western culture is near the brink of death thanks to the work of (((some))) people. This decadence has a source of origin. My feelings towards Jewish people could best be described as immense distrust. An individual Jew could become a good person and Christian, but when collectivized a devious emergent phenomenon is manifested (the whole is greater than the sum of its parts).

>> No.17527644

>>17527631
>God is the single irreducible substance, but that substance has modes and attributes.
Literally Spinoza, banned from Abrahamic theology

>> No.17527670

>>17527644
Pantheism and Panentheism are distinct beliefs anon. Hegel was a Lutheran Panentheist. Even modern theologians admit (weak) Panentheism to be compatible with Christianity.

>> No.17527672

>>17527644
what do you expect from a young schizo without directions in life. They adopt everything in their way.

>> No.17527686

>>17527644
>>17527670
>>17527672
video related

>> No.17527695

>>17527686
oh shit I forgot to paste this: https://youtu.be/_xki03G_TO4

>> No.17527697

>>17527631
>God is the single irreducible substance, but that substance has modes and attributes.
So you're a Spinozist i.e. an atheist?

>> No.17527705

>>17527695
who cares, youre a christian and antisemite and thats enough schizo magic for me to disregard you completely you larping faggot

>> No.17527710

>>17527428
you're a faggot
>isn't your blog
you're just upset at his post

>> No.17527714

>>17527670
Ah yes my favorite sorceror, Hegel, is an expert on Christian dogma

>> No.17527724

>>17527697
Do you not know the difference between Pantheism and Panentheism? Come on.
>>17527705
Even Kierkegaard was an anti-semite. Your beliefs are unsurprisingly informed by propaganda.
>>17527714
lmao. I personally prefer Schopenhauer as he is far more readable, but Hegel has historical significance.

>> No.17527735

>>17527724
>Even Kierkegaard was an anti-semite
you're saying likes thats an argument. Anti semitism is incompatible with the Bible

>> No.17527738

>>17526956
It's global homogeneity. Retards who get triggered at dumb shit and can't discuss things with some degree of civility shouldn't be on the board.

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>>17526922
>>removed everything good from Nietzsche and created a bluepilled globohomo version of him
No. And Deleuze's text explicitly states that Nietzsche was against socialism. Also the people who say globohomo are the most controlled of them all. They're somehow the even shittier side of the same worthless coin.
>>fused him with 3 jews
Meaningless statement.
>>unironic Marxist despite being a """Nietzschean"""
Not as unironic, also not surprising.
>>gay
He was married to a woman and had two kids.
>>is the patron saint of trannies
He rejected identity politics as well as metaphysical identity.
>>created accelerationism
That was Marx. D&G barely mention it despite all the memes.
>>was a pedo
Probably not.
>>thought that not cutting your dick off was fascism
He didn't, but I bet OP is very tempted to avoid fascism this way.
>>killed himself
Based. The courage of suicide when life becomes unbearable is to be admired and I bet OP would piss her panties at the thought.

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>>17527697
pic related
>>17527735
hmmm what is the Synagogue of Satan

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>>17527220
>>17527229

>> No.17527771

>>17527745
not trying to argue but accelerationism is based on a paragraph in anti-oedipus in the main

>> No.17527774

>>17527724
>Do you not know the difference between Pantheism and Panentheism? Come on.
Seems like pure doxography to me. It is clear that Spinoza repudiates the revelatory, hieratic theology of Judeo-Christianity.
>lmao. I personally prefer Schopenhauer as he is far more readable, but Hegel has historical significance.
Significance to who? Schizos? Hegel is an atrocious writer, that's why so many interpretations flourished.

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>>17526922
Rent free.

>> No.17527831

>>17527774
My influence from Spinoza only stems from his dual aspect monism and his pantheism, which I modify into Panentheism as I'm not an atheist. Watch the video I linked above. Regarding Hegel, he was probably the first to see history as a dialectical process of unfolding, one which is constantly progressing. Modern day progressivism and technophiles share that in common much to my disagreement. You're right that he's a terrible writer but he's still important in the history of Philosophy. Schopenhauer came about as a reaction against him. Kierkegaard studied Hegel and Schelling, and his later Philosophy was also a reaction against Hegelianism. Psychoanalysis is also influenced by Hegel. You get the idea.

>> No.17527848

>>17527336
wtf i love and understand Hegel now?

>> No.17527865

>>17527374
Trying to strawman other people to make yourself feel better is literally a cope FYI.

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>>17527848

>> No.17527887

>>17527793
>>I just saw a tranny and NOW MY PEE PEE IS HARD
Bruh

>> No.17527888

>>17527831
Potäto, Potāto, both are heresies but you do you. I think you could go Kant->Schopenhauer->Freud if you wanted to understand psychoanalysis of the unconscious mind/will/a priori; Hegel is for a different specialization entirely.

>> No.17527894

>>17527332
>Nietzsche was probably anti-semitic, which is the only common ground I have with him.
Someone post the quotes, I can't care about /pol/tards anymore.

>> No.17527898

>>17527116
He literally portrays him as socialist which is completely inaccurate. While Nietzsche wasn't definitely a fascist, he certainly wouldn't have been a socialist

>> No.17527908

>>17527898
>He literally portrays him as socialist
In what way?

>> No.17527913

>>17527894
you think schizos will care about those quotes? they are demented
>>17527898
>He literally portrays him as socialist
source?

>> No.17527927

>>17527898
Maybe you've mis-understood Nietzsche because you try to put him into false left or right spectrum because your low brain wave activity can overcome such phantasms?

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https://onscenes.weebly.com/philosophy/nietzsche-and-the-fascists-georges-bataille

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>>17526922

Foucault also was marxist despite being nietzschean, so that is not outstanding.
How is he the saint of trannies, like what for, I've never heard of that.

>> No.17528022

>>17527007
>>17527898
He never argued that Nietzsche was an egalitarian.

>> No.17528064

>>17527410
>I regard most Philosophy before the 19th and 20th century as Continental, though some of it may have a more logical focus.
Retarded take.

>> No.17528067

>>17527986
>Foucault also was marxist

Jesus Christ people. Could you read anything by Foucault before passing the judgement on him?

>Marxism exists in nineteenth-century thought like a fish in water: that is, it is unable to breathe anywhere else

>> No.17528089

>>17527548
It’s literally a logical contradiction.

>> No.17528091

>>17528067
Oh this is not a judgement, just the common reception.

>> No.17528116

>>17527631
Why do psueds on this site take random bullshit from whatever ideology and mash them together into an incoherent ideology?

>> No.17528122

>>17528089
Incorrect faggot.
>>17528064
Gonna cry?

>> No.17528129

>>17528116
He's probably under 30

>> No.17528139

>>17527320
savage quote

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>>17527986
>How is he the saint of trannies
He isn't. /pol/ just likes to project their obsession with trannies everywhere.

>> No.17528163

>>17526922
Sounds based desu

>> No.17528190

>>17527332
Aristotle and Plato weren't racist so much as elitist. Aristotle def thought the Greeks were superior but I'm sure he wasn't some seething faggot who couldn't acknowledge a great man of another race

>> No.17528202

>>17528145
thanks fofr the reply. just, what do they reason it with, which book.

>> No.17528217

>>17527750
It’s unchristian to condemn an entire race.

>> No.17528224

>>17528190
Yeah I agree

>> No.17528234

>>17528217
nah

>> No.17528243

>>17528217
It's actually very Christian to be a brash retard who sentences others to eternal suffering for being disobedient.

>> No.17528260

>>17528202
I assume OP is talking about the "becoming-woman" concept which has little to nothing to do with trannies.

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>>17528122
>>>17528089 (You) #
>Incorrect faggot.
>>>17528064 (You) #
>Gonna cry?

>> No.17528293

>>17528243
Watch this retard: https://youtu.be/tiYf6ITgWbk
>>17528262
None of my posts remotely suggest a predisposition towards neoconservatism. You could have at least guessed my liking to Ted Kaczynski.

>> No.17528470

>>17527407
>Deleuze was never that much against Fascism
read the first few pages of anti-oedipus

>> No.17528471

>>17526922
I honestly though you were talking about Foucault despite Deleuze's pic

>> No.17528507

>>17527745
he signed a letter arguing that the age of consent should be abolished

>> No.17528532

>>17528293
maga wasn't a neocon movement, it was populist. The actual trump admin was just more neocon stuff for the most part but that wasn't the spirit of the maga retards

>> No.17528553

>>17528532
You keep saying neocon when you should be using neoliberal.

>> No.17528561

>>17528532
fair enough
>>17528553
Trump is a Zionist, so he's neocon not neolib. Biden is neolib for sure.

>> No.17528580

>>17528553
Whats the difference? Neocons do a few tax cuts, and are marginally less gun-grabby. It's the same shit in all ways that matter

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>>17527374
>"Why do Jewish professors blame whites for black people having issues in college when 50% of college presidents are Jewish? That doesn't seem very fair to me."
>OMG YOU TOTALLY BASE YOUR ENTIRE EXISTENCE AROUND JOOOOOOOOOOOOOOS, YOU HAVE RESSENTIMENT AS YOUR FUNDAMENTAL PILLAR OF EXISTENCE!!
pic related

>> No.17528630

>>17527410
>Nietzsche was a relativist on truth.
Wrong.
>Nietzsche thought Christianity was slave-morality in its altruistic tendencies
Wrong.
>Nietzsche thought that the attainment of power is satisfactory towards happiness.
Wrong.

>> No.17528748

>>17527301
you do know that quantified modal logic is a thing, right?

>> No.17528785

>>17528293
>Watch this
No

>> No.17528847

>>17527486
>who is Frege

>> No.17528910

>>17528507
That was a common belief in France at the time. He’s unlikely to a pedophile,

>> No.17529156

>>17528910
>Everyone else was doing it therefore it's fine
Heard a lot of that at Nuremberg

>> No.17529230

Talking about postmodern philosophers to pol retards is like talking advanced physics with a toddler

>> No.17529248

>>17528507
I'm pro-pedophilia and I'm not even a pedo. Cope

>> No.17529256

I swear /lit/ was in a better place when I started reading Deleuze a little more than a year ago. There where regular threads on him with actual insight.
Now it's just shit like this sorry excuse of a thread.
>muh globo homo
>muh jews
Embarrassing.

>> No.17529261

>>17529230
advanced physics actually accomplishes stuff, don't degrade it by likening pomo philosophy to it

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>>17528507
That was just the French being retarded in general. The logic was that you have to take as much power away from the state as possible so instead of going the way of consistency (making kids less responsible for their actions as well as their sexuality) they went the way of abolishing the big bad bourgeois property defending state by arguing against all regulation, including the one banning pedophilia. There's no excusing their Frenchness though, but it doesn't make them all pedos.

>> No.17529317

>>17529261
silence, anglo

>> No.17529324

>>17529317
You are absolutely not worthy of the respect that physicists earn

>> No.17529326

>>17527986
>Foucault also was marxist
LOL

>> No.17529328

>>17529261
But it does accomplish something. It creates some concepts that are pretty easy to understand for anyone with half a brain, such as becoming woman, which can be used to bait out literal retards who think it's about trannies.

>> No.17529330

the more I read about this dude from seething rightoids the more I feel like reading his work.
So where do I start?

>> No.17529336

>>17529230
>>17529261
The autistic lizard brain of the Anglo is poisoned by positivism

>> No.17529340

>>17529330
https://www.amazon.com/Based-Deleuze-Reactionary-Leftism-Philosophers/dp/1734452900

>> No.17529342

>>17529324
cry more faggot
two sweaty balls of one dirty french frog postmodernist are worth more than all circlejerking that is happening in science currently

>> No.17529351

>>17529330
Nietzsche and philosophy is a good start, also his little book Negotiations

>> No.17529358

>>17529342
It's very pathetic how philosophers even ape the style of technical language that physicists use because they actually require it and it means something

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>>17529330
With "Nietzsche & Philosophy" (1960). There's also "Letter to a Harsh Critic" in "Negotiations" (1990) which spoonfeeds you what to expect from his texts, just gloss over the psychobabble if you have to, Deleuze moved away from that eventually. Let me see if I can find that old pasta with secondary authors and a bibliography.

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>>17529358
>noooooooooooo nooot my sciencerino noot my precious hecking technicalino language!!!! YOU CANT JUST use scientific concepts outside of their original context AAAAA I'm going insaaaaaaaneeeee

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>>17528630
pic related
>>17528785
have fun in hell faggot

>> No.17529416

>>17529402
You can use them all you want and never accomplish literally a single thing but jerking each other off over gibberish

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>>17529395
Found it.

A decent short summary / intro to D&G:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5EHnrE3j9kg

A longer introduction, but possibly my favorite:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lajsoQJ0V6A

A lot of the stuff here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC4CtHPqv6eKr8pYqe8qEoEA/videos?disable_polymer=1

Everything by Manuel DeLanda:
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=manuel+delanda

A bit more on the Nietzsche-Deleuze relation through Klossowski (who dedicated his book about Nietzsche to Deleuze):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7l7ZAKZZZU

More on the Deleuze-Nietzsche relation (the entire series is fascinating if you're into Nietzsche):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFFxnf92XqY


The Deleuze for the Desperate series:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GS35vUMhww4

Derrida's lecture about Deleuze (mistitled, it's about Stupidity not Forgiveness):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_r-gr3ccik

There's probably a lot more, there are Vimeo videos as well which don't feature on Youtube.

Pirate Deleuze's Abecedaire (it should have English subtitles) as I can't find it streamed in full online anywhere.

As for the books, you could start with the essay and interview collections (in no particular order): Dialogues, Negotiations, Desert Islands, Two Regimes of Madness, Essays Critical and Clinical. "Letter to a Harsh Critic" in Negotiations is short (about 7 pages) and tells you how to read his texts. Better yet, jump straight into Nietzsche and Philosophy (read the intro as well) since it sets up the entire framework that Deleuze will operate in. Deleuze's courses are also pretty accessible and translated in several languages: https://www.webdeleuze.com/


A decent bibliography:
https://immanentterrain.wordpress.com/biblio/

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>>17529416
>nooooooo you cant just write something without SUBSTANCE where are your argumeeeents AAAAAAA, where are the LOGIC and FACTS. Is that a methaphor?????? NO WAY! I'm goiNG INSAAAAAAANE AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>> No.17529450

>>17529330
Look up his lectures on Kant: Synthesis and Time. Follow that up with Nietzsche and Philosophy, Spinoza: Practical Philosophy and Bergsonism. After that read some of his other lectures and the Postscript to Societies of Control. At this point you are probably ready to jump into the big texts, do so in this order:
>Logic of Sense
>Difference and Repetition
>Anti-Oedipus
>A Thousand Plateaus
>What Is Philosophy
Bonus: The Fold, Desert Islands, the Cinema books, book on Francis Bacon (the Artist), his other Spinoza book, his book on Masochism, Essays, book on Foucault and the book on Proust and Signs.

>> No.17529461

>>17529330
His books on other philosophers (especially the ones on Spinoza, Nietzsche and Bergson)
You also want to be somewhat well read on philosophy overall if you want to understand anything at all

>> No.17529486

>>17529340
Anything but this.

>> No.17529501

>>17529450
Proust & Signs and Coldness & Cruelty should be prioritized over some of his other works (except Nietzsche & Philosophy) imo. They're for the most part more accessible than many of his other books.

>> No.17529513

>>17527477
name something gayer than fucking wom*n

>> No.17529553

>>17526953
when considering a broader scope, fascism/nazism largely holds to the same assumptions and basic tenets, not to mention rhetoric and aesthetic, as socialism/communism. which means a criticism of one's assumptions is a criticism of the other. the exception is racialism though the racialism of today is much stronger and more prevalent than in nazism, where it was fairly minor and on its way out, and absent in fascism.

>> No.17529576

>>17526956
it means globalism and homogenisation. i.e. monoculture + world political orthodoxy.

>> No.17529683

>>17529411
Hell is a condition of the heart

>> No.17529757

>>17527750
Is Spinoza not a panentheist by how this image portrays panentheism? I thought he viewed the "universe" (which I take to mean extension, physicality) as just one aspect of god's infinite aspects.

>> No.17529873

>>17529683
pseud
>>17529757
Spinoza doesn't believe in a transcendent God. 'God' and 'nature' are both synonymous with one another to him, hence his atheism. I believe in the Christian God, thinking him to both be immanent and transcendent, which results in Panentheism.

>> No.17529884

>>17529576
I'm sure /pol/tards mean "gay" by the homo, as in making the whole world gay.

>> No.17529890

>>17529873
How is his god not transcendent if he believes in other aspects of god beyond the physical world?

>> No.17529978

>>17529890
Let's go back to the part about 'God or Nature'. Spinoza doesn't believe in the conventional God up there in the heavens. His God is simply nature, or the cosmos. He's a pantheist in that everything to him is of nature and hence everything is God. He's also a monist, meaning he believes solely in one irreducible substance which to him is God. God has two aspects, mind and matter, and two identifiable modes in human experience, thought and extension. Body is of the attribute of extension and soul the attribute of thought. Let me be clear, my knowledge of Spinozism stems from lectures, not the primary text (Ethics). But I hope this clears things up. Once again though, Spinoza is a philosopher of immanence, not transcendence. He does not believe in a transcendent God.

>> No.17529994

>>17529978
And that makes the glass grinding Jew an atheist

>> No.17530001

>>17529994
Technically yes

>> No.17530033

>>17529978
Well I haven't actually studied Spinoza, but I was reading something about him recently and maybe I'm just confused but I thought he believed god had infinitely many attributes with thought and extension being only the two that are known to us. If I'm wrong then fair enough, but if not it wouldn't seem right to call him a pantheist.

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>>17530033
Right, he thought that given the limitations of our experience, we could only identify two attributes to 'God', though an infinite amount of attributes could exist. Also I found a concise video on Spinozism you might find useful: https://youtu.be/uBsTxJBzczg