Syriac texts and resources

[Anonymous No.17511744]

Currently in the process of learning Syriac given its vast amount of poetical literature as well as liturgical. Does /lit/ have any preferences on their script, poem author or tips on learning resources?

[Anonymous No.17512342]

>>17511744
What textbook are you using? How are you finding it so far?

[Anonymous No.17512369]

>>17512342
Kiraz's Syriac Primer coupled with Syriac English Dictionary by Brock. His "An Introduction to Syriac Studies" helped me find it and guide me some through the field.
It's a very exciting language so far! The way vowels function and look is a bit difficult, especially since they are so small but I'm getting the hang of it. The difference between Ḥ and Y is giving me eye strain though.

[Anonymous No.17512417]

>>17511744
Convince me to add Syriac to my bucket list of languages.

[Anonymous No.17512461]

>>17511744
I hope your not in academia. I would suggest ignoring 99% of "Syriac Studies"

[Anonymous No.17512487]

So, uh, how are you going to get your hands on anything in syrian? Are you just going to browse websites with syrian text, like classicists use Perseus?

[Anonymous No.17512503]

>>17512417
With Syriac you gain access to a vast amount of topics and a wide geographical region to read from. Its especially relevant if you are interested in off-shoots of historical Christianity like Nestorianism and other groups, but also works excellently as a bridge language as many Arab translators utilized Syriac when transcribing Greek text on philosophy, medicine, comedies, many of which are lost and only survive in Syriac formats. It also serves as a great language for poetry as it bases itself on syllable count, not necessarily stress or length, sadly not much has been translated as of yet. Notable people are Ephrem the Syrian and Jacob of Serugh though.
Syriac will also ease you into Aramaic, Hebrew or Sogdian if that interests you.

[Anonymous No.17512508]

>>17512461
Really? Do tell me about that, because I am. Not enrolled in any Syriac study, but have been thinking about it.

[Anonymous No.17512535]

>>17512487
there's enough re-prints around and the Vatican is slowly scanning their vault of Syriac texts. Some genuine Syriac script would be cool to see with my own eyes though.

[Anonymous No.17512599]

>>17512461
also what differentiates the 99% from the 1%? Where do I find the 1% if so?

[Anonymous No.17512824]

Here's a nice mosaic of Ephrem located in Greece which is interesting given his leanings towards Theodore of Mospuestia.

[Anonymous No.17513025]

>>17512417
You get to read Nestorius’ ‘apology’ as it only survives in Syriac.

[Anonymous No.17513052]

>>17512824
I wonder what's written on the scroll he's holding. I can only make out "makarioi".

[Anonymous No.17513459]

I frequently visit this site for my own bible research. Seems to offer direction toward numerous resources.
https://www.dukhrana.com/

This is a notable database for looking up words and texts in the various forms of Aramaic.
http://cal.huc.edu

Lastly Lexilogos has a searchable dictionary and Lexicity provides links to aforementioned resources and more.

https://www.lexilogos.com/english/syriac_dictionary.htm
http://lexicity.com/language/syriac/

[Anonymous No.17513511]

Useful chart

[Anonymous No.17513641]

Here are what accurate recitals of the Lord's prayer are supposed to sound like both in eastern and western Syriac vocalization respectively. Other recitals on YouTube are cringe.

Western vocalization
https://youtu.be/p2vfGVS7tvs

Eastern vocalization
https://youtu.be/36GYBTzJyAU

[Anonymous No.17513808]

>>17511744
I'd like to it but Hebrew is priority for me. Do you know any Hebrew?

[Anonymous No.17515515]

bamp

[Anonymous No.17515533]

>>17511744
That's a beautiful looking language at least

[Anonymous No.17515658]

>>17511744

[Anonymous No.17515659]

>>17513808
Know a little Hebrew but that is mostly through the exposition of Syriac. Some letters are very close to one another, plus words.

[Anonymous No.17516405]

>>17513459
>>17513511
Thanks a lot for these!

[Anonymous No.17516524]

>>17513641
Aren't Western and Eastern Syriac the same in terms of word meaning, they're more like majuscule versus minuscule.

[Anonymous No.17516907]

>>17516524
Different styles of script from the classical one and distinctive accent/ pronunciation.

[Anonymous No.17516975]

>>17511744
I compiled a bibliography of important resources on Syriac that you might find interesting. Also, if you're interested in learning more about Syriac Christianity, you should contact this guy on Discord, as he and his team are going through multiple religious treatises written in Syriac.
"ok so we now have over 100 books to read on Syriac theology, mysticism, liturgy, history, language, apocryphal writings, and prayer, with stuff from the Maronites, Antiochian Syriac, Church of the East, and Assyrian-Chaldean traditions."
(Source: https://twitter.com/Hasan22821492/status/1290366614383321090))
Bibliography:
the website "syri.ac" -Palastinaliteratur by Thomsen. 4 vols -Gorgias Encyclopedic Dictionary of Syriac Heritage -Grundriss der vergleichenden Grammatik der semitischen Sprachen by Carl Brocklemann. 2 vols-Semitic Etymological Dictionary by Militarev -Dictionnaire des Racines Semitiques ou Attestees dans les Langues Semit. by Cohen -Hist. Semit. Sprachwissenschaft by Kienast - Introduction to Syriac Studies by Brock -Corpus Inscriptionum Semiticarum -Comparative Oriental Manuscript Studies -Classical Syriac Grammar by Muraoka -Syriac Lexicon by Sokoloff - Thesaurus Syriacus by R. Payne Smith -De la Traditional Metriquez chez Martin of West Syriac by Fritz Forkel -Chrestomathia Syriaca by Roediger -Chrestomathia Syriaca by Bernstein -Chres. Targumica by Merx -Anecdota Oхoniensia: Semitic Edition -Semitic Text and Transl. Series by Luzac -Geschichte der Syrischen Literatur by Markus and Weber. -Geschichte der Spat und neusyrischen literatur by Macuch -Die Christlichen Literaturen des Orients by Baumstark. 2 vols -Geschichte der Christlichen Literatur des Orients by Brockelmann, Leipoldt, Finck. -Patrologia Orientalis by Graffin and Nau -Sources Syriaques by Mingana -Anecdota Syriaca by Land - Corpus scriptorum christian. Orient. -Breviarum juxta ritum eccles. Antiochenae Syrorum - Acta Martyrum et Sanctorum Syriace -Biblia sacra juxta versionum Simplicem, quae dicitur Pshitta by Ceriani -Der Neuaramaische Dialekt. D. Tur Abdin by Prym and Socin - Turas mamla surjaja by Elia of Sobha - Fragmente de Syr. Arab. Historiker by Baethger -Chronique by Michael Syrus -Syrische Rechtsbucher by Sachau

[Anonymous No.17517121]

>>17516975
thanks a lot, anon!