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I'm interested in aesthetics (the philosophy of art/beauty), where should I start?

>> No.17511252

>>17511245
Roger Scruton's Beauty

>> No.17511265

>>17511245
Aristotle’s Poetics

>> No.17511278

>>17511245
Nietzsche
Nick Land
Baudrillard
Deleuze
Dutton
Latour

>> No.17511292
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>>17511278
>Nietzsche
>Nick Land

>> No.17511418

>>17511252
>>17511265
Thanks

>> No.17511434

>>17511245
Aesthetics is a meme field. Don't waste your time.

>> No.17511504
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>>17511292
>talking with friends (they all hare in STEM fields) about Time
>recently watched a vid on youtube where Nick Land explains how bitcoin and blockchain solves spacetime
>feel really excited that I can actually contribute something to the conversation
>blurt out "well actually, blockchain solves the issue of spacetime."
>they all look at me like I just said Ronald McDonald was the first president of the United States
>"wtf does that even mean?"
>"blockchain is an algorithm"
>realize I don't actually understand what Land was on about
>try to reconstruct his points as best as I can
>remember that he invoked Marx and Kant a lot so I try to tie them into the idea of spacetime
>none of my friends have heard of Kant or Land, they think Marx is just an economist
>"anon space and time are topics that physicists deal with"
>"yeah, aren't philosophers supposed to busy answering questions like: if a rock on the moon spontaneously developed feet but wanted to play the piano would we be able to prove that we're brains in a simulated vat?"
>they laugh and go on to discuss what they put in their tinder profiles

>> No.17511516

>>17511245
Augustine

>> No.17511527

>>17511245
1/2
Aesthetic Theory by Theodor Adorno
“The Rhetoric of the Image” by Roland Barthes
The Critique of Aesthetic Judgement by Immanuel Kant
Letter to Can Grande Delia Scalla by Dante Alighieri
The Poetics by Aristotle
On the Sublime by Longinus
Ars Poetica by Horace
An Apology for Poetry by Sir Philip Sidney
An Essay of Dramatic Poesy by John Dryden
An Essay on Criticism by Alexander Pope
Preface to Shakespeare by Samuel Johnson
Preface to Lyrical Ballads by William Wordsworth
Contemporary Art Theory by Igor Zabel
A Philosophical Enquiry into the Origin of Our Ideas of the Sublime and Beautiful by Edmund Burke
The Art Spirit By Robert Henri
The Return of the Real by Hal Foster
Biographia Literaria by Samuel Taylor Coleridge
A Defence of Poetry by Percy Bysshe Shelley
The Birth of Tragedy by Friedrich Nietzsche
The Critic As Artist by Oscar Wilde
The Work of Art in the Age of Mechanical Reproduction by Walter Benjamin
The Art of Fiction by Henry James
Lectures on Aesthetics by G.W.F. Hegel
In Praise of Shadows by Jun'ichirō Tanizaki
Art and Answerability by Mikhail Bakhtin
Heteroglossia in the Novel by Mikhail Bakhtin
Aesthetics and Politics by Ernst Bloch
Lectures on Art by Alphonse Mucha
Lectures on Aesthetics by Ludwig Wittgenstein
Strange Tools: Art and Human Nature by Alva Noë
On the Aesthetic Education of Man by Friedrich Schiller
The Transfiguration of the Commonplace by Arthur Danto
After the End of Art by Arthur Danto
What Is Art? by Leo Tolstoy
The Poetics of Space by Gaston Bachelard
Problems of Dostoevsky’s Poetics by Mikhail Bakhtin
When We Dead Awaken: Writing as Re-Vision by Adrienne Rich
Structure, Sign, and Play by Jacques Derrida
The Truth in Painting by Jacques Derrida
The Archetypes of Literature by Northrop Frye
Ways of Seeing by John Berger
Against Interpretation by Susan Sontag
What Is an Author by Michel Foucault
The Deconstruction of the Linguistic Sign by Umberto Eco
Representing Ophelia by Elaine Showalter
Shakespeare and the Exorcists by Stephen Greenblatt
A Hound, a Bay Horse, and a Turtle Dove: Obscurity In Walden by Barbara Johnson
Aesthetics Volume I and II by Dietrich von Hildebrand
“What Are Poets For?” By Martin Heidegger
“Of the Passions,” “Of Tragedy,” “Of the Standard of Taste,” from Four Dissertations by David Hume
Art as Experience by John Dewey
Theory of Prose by Viktor Shklovsky
The Romantic Manifesto Ayn Rand
The Art of Fiction by John Gardner
On Moral Fiction by John Gardner
On Becoming a Novelist by John Gardner
A Vision by W.B. Yeats
The Craft of Fiction by Percy Lubbock
Enemies of Promise by Cyril Connolly
Aspects of the Novel by E.M. Forster
Mimesis: The Representation of Reality in Western Literature by Erich Auerbach

>> No.17511534

>>17511527
2/2
The Relevance of the Beautiful by Hans-Georg Gadamer
Aesthetica by Alexander Gottlieb Baumgarten
Philosophical Thoughts by Denis Diderot
The Relevance of the Beautiful and Other Essays by Hans-Georg Gadamer
Lectures on Aesthetics by Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel
Laocoon by Gotthold Ephraim Lessing
The Inhuman by Jean-François Lyotard
Dialectic of Enlightenment by Max Horkheimer and Theodor W. Adorno
History of Beauty by Umberto Eco
Aesthetic Ideology by Paul de Man
Thoughts on the Imitation of Greek Works in Painting and the Art of Sculpture by Johann Joachim Winckelmann
Corpus by Jean-Luc Nancy
“The Origin of the Work of Art” by Martin Heidegger

>> No.17511546

>>17511245
The Romantic Agony Gabe me a strange appreciation of how beauty is as much about our pain as our transcendence, that you must understand the uttermost depths of despair to create a beauty that alleviates it. Beauty is spiritually vital and innocent, a window to a higher truth that cannot be truly incarnated into form. And yet it is also uncanny and eerie, cryptically melancholic, animated with our spiritual wounds and pathological delusions.

>> No.17511780

>>17511527
Well what was the problem with doestoevsky’s aesthetics??

>> No.17513253

>>17511504
I fucking hate normalfaggots. Thanks for affirming my hatred.

>> No.17513297

>>17513253
I mean tbf Anon was being a retard. I hate "I LOVE SCIENCE" people as much as the next guy but if you can't support your claims then you deserve to be made fun of

>> No.17513747

>>17511245
Oxford University made a lecture series and published it as a podcast called Aesthetics and philosophy of art lectures, it gives a pretty cushy entry into the field.

>> No.17513755

>>17511245
also I would recommend reading the writings of actual aesthetical producers before the philosophers because it reveals' how much they talk out of their ass about the arts.

>> No.17514033

>>17511292
this retard hasn't read Nietzsche, his opinion is invalid

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>>17511504
I hate everybody involved here.
>Anon watches pseudointellectual video that mashes together two meme concepts for clickbait
>"*throws dart* Bitcoin explains...*throws dart* spacetime through...*throws dart* Quantum Mechanics!"
>Anon believes he is smart by association, even though he understands none of the buzzwords used
>Anon tries to virtue signal how smart he is to friends for brownie points
>Anon makes a fool of himself, showing what an absolute brainlet he is
>Fortunately his friends are also brainlets
>"LMAO fill-oss-o-fee? That's dumb Anon lolololol"
>The world consists of the stupid leading the stupid among their stupid friends
>TheMarchingMorons.pdf
I wonder if the story of Humanity is a dark comedy or a Greek tradgedy...

>> No.17514508

>>17513253
You're a retard, anon.

>> No.17514566

>>17511245
for any french lads
http://www.jdarriulat.net/Plangeneral.html

>> No.17514567

>>17514178

I do not think the scenario in that post ever actually happened

>> No.17514587

>>17511527
>>17511534
How did you make this list?

>> No.17514606

>>17514567
Who the fuck would know Marx as an economist, but not know anything about Marxism.

>>17514178
A friend of mine was very obviously insecure about his intelligence. Like an absolute aspie I once called him out on it. Then I realized we were both retards and thats OK.