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>character thinks in written language

>> No.17509260
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>>17509242
>OP doesn't think in propositions

>> No.17509392

>>17509242
Literally this

>> No.17509420

>>17509242
>he doesnt have schizo conversations with himself while pacing in a circle
lol your never gonna make it

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>>17509420
>When Bernard tells Lamar he has to focus on clenching the abdomen muscles again to release the demonic energy pooling there

>> No.17509476

>>17509420
Is it actually schizo to do this?

>> No.17509482

>>17509420
every single human being do this you dumb cunt.

>> No.17509507

>>17509482
Surprisingly, no.
There are some who cannot vocalise in their mind.
>>17509420
It's not schizo to have conversations with yourself, even on schizo topics.
It's schizo to talk to someone else in your head.

>> No.17509513

>>17509482
I don’t do this, and I am diagnosed schizotypal

>> No.17509516

>>17509507
>It's schizo to talk to someone else in your head.
What about to think of yourself as plural? I often think 'We' instead of 'I'

>> No.17509539

>>17509507
>It's schizo to talk to someone else in your head.
Doesn't count if it's in a dream and I know I'm dreaming.

>> No.17509541

>>17509507
I vocalize almost all the time, and also I can barely visualize anything. I can sort of force myself to think in words without actually vocalizing them, sort of "thinking in written language" like in the OP.
Am I schizo?

>> No.17509542

>>17509516
I do both, though mainly I refer to myself as I as the voice in my head is me.
However I sometimes disagree with myself and have to argue to a centre ground, and so 'we' have made a decision.
I suppose to think of yourself as plural is a tad schizo.

>> No.17509551

>>17509507
I *can* vocalize in my mind, but it's incredibly slow and inefficient. I avoid it unless that particular tool is relevant for some reason. Fortunately I have a very effective mind-to-words translation mechanism.

>> No.17509552

>>17509541
>I can barely visualize anything
I am the same, I imagine using words.
To describe the scene in detail, rather than see it.
I don't see that as schizophrenic at all.

>> No.17509553

>>17509541 is me
>>17509542
I also think of myself in plural sometimes, but more often I do a monologue in 2nd person, sort of speaking to myself as if I am someone else.
The question still stands.

>> No.17509567

>>17509553
I suspect second person is likely fairly common "you can do this" and the like.

>> No.17509569

tfw everyone on /lit. is a schizo

>> No.17509573

>>17509553
No, I do not think so as I have the same sort of type of thinking as you, and I'm diagnosed being towards the autistic end of the spectrum (whilst not actually being autistic).
>>17509551
I simply cannot comprehend this, unless you are talking about instinct.

>> No.17509583

>>17509573
>I simply cannot comprehend this, unless you are talking about instinct.
Don't you ever think in imagery/symbols?

>> No.17509585

It really does seem there are two different main modes of conscious awareness with something along the lines of 80% using direct mental vocalization, and 20% using a process that's harder to describe. It's a combination of conceptual "shapes", visualization, some words or numbers, and a strong intuitive sense of how these all relate to one another.

>> No.17509593

>>17509583
No.
I act impulsively or I think in words.
No alternative.

>> No.17509594

>>17509507
>There are some who cannot vocalise in their mind.
How is it possible? How to fuck people can make decisions if they don't discuss the matters with their inner self?

>> No.17509599

>>17509594
I don't know.
A few of them exist, and they cannot explain how the function in a way which I can understand.

>> No.17509612

>>17509573
>I simply cannot comprehend this, unless you are talking about instinct.

You likely do it all the time. Let's say your friend calls you, and you see their name on the phone. You are instantly aware of who your friend is, what they are likely calling about, and how their call and its consequences are likely to impact the shape of your day. I assume you don't need to think, "Bill is calling me about lunch, and this means I will need to shift my plans to masturbate ahead by fourty minutes". It would be redundant. We work at that level much of the time for a majority of our awareness.

>> No.17509655

>>17509242
>Character thinks

What a waste of time

>> No.17509661

>>17509420
fucking lol
this

>> No.17509679

>>17509612
Some of the time, certainty.
But at other points it will be as your example stated.

>> No.17509731

>>17509679
For sure, sometimes direct semantic symbol processing is unavoidable. But for me it always feels like I'm writing with my non-dominant hand. For that reason I'm usually slower on the pickup at new items which absolutely require it, but once I've got them banked into the standard mental processes I'm pretty speedy with them.

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>character thinks only in adverbs

>> No.17509834

>>17509731
Would you say that it's more of a subconscious/autopilot way of doing things, in a sense that once they're sort of internalized you can skip the conscious effort (as described in the example of a friend calling) and skip to the action/result? Or are you saying that there IS a conscious effort but it just doesn't require symbolic thought?

>> No.17510787

>>17509573
Not that anon, but I remember watching The Lion King for the first time and thinking Mufasa was unconscious when Simba found his dead body without knowing the word unconscious.

>> No.17510813

>>17509834
Tough question. If I'm creating something the design overall is intuitive but I'm throwing out scenarios and sensing how they interact with everything else. The hard work is in getting a good fit forward and backwards with what I'm trying to do. There's definitely work involved in exploring and modifying the overall visual/thematic/character/plot variations, but the only direct symbol processing comes in when I'm trying to translate to actual words. That takes an effort and I expect it's closer to verbal thought, but I'm always matching back to how close it is to the intuitive overall picture.