/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.17508285]

>Lacan argues that "man's desire is the desire of the Other".

>Desire is the desire of the Other's desire, meaning that desire is the object of another's desire and that desire is also desire for recognition. Here Lacan follows Alexandre Kojève who follows Hegel's master slave dialectic: for Kojève the subject must risk his own life if he wants to achieve the desired prestige.

>This desire to be the object of another's desire is best exemplified in the Oedipus complex, when the subject desires to be the phallus of the mother.

>Lacan contends that the subject desires from the point of view of another whereby the object of someone's desire is an object desired by another one: what makes the object desirable is that it is precisely desired by someone else

>Désir de l'Autre, desire of the other. The fundamental desire is the incestuous desire for the mother, the primordial Other

>Desire is "the desire for something else" since it is impossible to desire what one already has. The object of desire is continually deferred, which is why desire is a metonymy

>Desire appears in the field of the Other, that is in the unconscious

>Lacan the first person who occupies the place of the Other is the mother and at first the child is at her mercy. Only when the father articulates desire with the law by castrating the mother, the subject is liberated from the mother's desire.

Was he right?

[Anonymous No.17508314]

>>17508285
He is, but he's wrong on the matter of the subject needing to move from master to master. Desire cannot be described in a more accurate manner though.

[Anonymous No.17508344]

>>17508285
I mean this is totally obvious. The easiest ways to score chicks is to make chicks think you are desired by other chicks.

The easiest way to get published is to make publishers think you are making them a favor since you are so much in demand.

The easiest way to get people to listen to you is to make them think a lot of other people already listen to you.

This shit is entry level.

[Anonymous No.17508371]

>>17508285
I fucking hate this nigger Lacan and his overcomplication of basic ass shit people already know since forever

This is literally common sense, there is nothing here worth of surplus value, its just overcomplicated jargon that says nothing

[Anonymous No.17508615]

>>17508285
Lacan epitomizes pseudointellectualism.

[Anonymous No.17508662]

>>17508615
This

[Anonymous No.17508716]

Do these guys write this shit all after their moms died or do their moms have to know their sons want to fuck them?

[Anonymous No.17508806]

>>17508344
>>17508371
I know nothing about Lacan, but are you surr this is so obvious? He was writing these things before marketing was treated as a scientific field.

[Anonymous No.17509028]

>>17508285

Yes. Also note the broader Gnostic implication of the world being made of inter-Subjectivity which all but is the Phenomenal itself, "Matter" being conscious not in the quaint "Hermetic" way, i.e. asleep or of reduced quality/quantity, but conscious in an awful OUTSIDE-IN way: consider a nightmare ending by waking up as the nightmare instead of the Subject, such is the consciousness of the Phenomenal.

[Anonymous No.17509537]

>>17508285
It's pretty obvious stuff I don't know why stuff act like this is deep

[Anonymous No.17509955]

>>17509028
damn fine post

>>17509537
>>17508371
>>17508344
>appealing to an omniscient Other to ground my sense of self? duh that's so obvious and definitely not what I'm doing right now
lol

[Anonymous No.17510002]

>>17509955
>appealing to an omniscient Other to ground my sense of self?

>bro your self-esteem is predicated on the opinions of others bro

wow. Revolutionary thinker

[Anonymous No.17510009]

>>17510002
Not the same idea

[Anonymous No.17510030]

>>17510002
like I said, filtered.

[Anonymous No.17510130]

>>17510009
>>17510030
Cope

[Anonymous No.17510144]

I want sex!

[Anonymous No.17510153]

>>17510130
>big word man mean this