/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.17460792]

can you really be /lit/ without being able to read in french?

[Anonymous No.17460943]

>>17460792
Listen anon, I really wanna be able to read the great French works as they were meant to be read, but there's just not enough fuckin time in my life. It would take me years of study to understand the French language well enough to really know what Proust and Sartre were tryna say. Between having a social life, reading, and other hobbies, I'd just rather take a leap of faith and hope that my translator did a good job

[Anonymous No.17460993]

>>17460943
Shouldn't have wasted high school then faggot. You could literally just take 2 years of French or French lessons or some local French class and be fluent enough to read in French. The only thing stopping you is being lazy and a lack of motivation. If you could commit 30 minutes to an hour a day of practicing French in a structured format, you would learn the language.

[Anonymous No.17461084]

>>17460792
The only book worth reading in french is Gargantua and Pantagruel. Everything else is retarded, because french "people" can barely think

[Anonymous No.17461286]

>>17460943
NGMI

[Anonymous No.17461291]

>>17460792
>can you really be /lit/ without being able to read in french?
I mean, they all learn English anyway so I'm not concerned.

[Anonymous No.17461305]

>>17460993
2 years of French to get a bare minimum of reading comprehension does nothing for you if you are trying to understand Proust or Sartre or anyone who writes something deeper than the boy's novels of Jules Verne. It would be much more effective for anyone to read something in their native language in order to garner a deeper understanding. Otherwise you are just LARPing.

[Anonymous No.17461326]

>>17461305
>2 years of French to get a bare minimum of reading comprehension
>2 years
maybe if you're retarded

[Anonymous No.17461346]

>>17461305
I learned French in a couple of months, anon. It's even simpler than English.

[Anonymous No.17461351]

>>17461305
>2 years of French to get a bare minimum of reading comprehension
Anon, I...

[Anonymous No.17461361]

>>17461291

We also learn to interact with dogs, doesn't mean we respect them (but we do respect dogs more than Anglos) .

[« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » No.17461375]

Yes. Learning languages other than Latin usually makes your English worse.

[Anonymous No.17461438]

>>17461375
Assuming this is true, does learning Latin get you one or more free foreign languages to learn without hurting your English abilities?

[Anonymous No.17461456]

>>17460792
>tfw you will never be a master of the French language
>tfw you will never be a master of the Italian language
>tfw you will never be a master of the German language
>tfw you will never be a master of the Russian language
You can't imagine what suicidefuel this is for me, anons...

[Anonymous No.17461464]

>>17461456
You know learning languages is actually easy, right?

[Anonymous No.17461588]

>>17461464
It's not if you are lazy. I am actually ESL and I am already forgetting my first language because I just don't use it anymore. I am unironically better at English. Even then, I think I only learned English because everything is in English. I have never encountered any of the aforementioned languages except on my own initiative, so I don't have the impetus to actually commit effort into learning them. Sucks being a lazy degenerate desu.

[Anonymous No.17461650]

>>17461346
I highly doubt your fluency at "a couple months" I've been studying French for about a year now and im B1 at most when it comes to reading.

[Anonymous No.17461687]

>>17461650
Doubt if you must, but at 3 months for fiction I can read Flaubert and Hugo fluently, and Derrida for philosophy (granted I've a lot of him in English). Maybe you're just using a shitty learning method?

[Anonymous No.17461696]

>>17461687
how did you do it?

[Anonymous No.17461698]

>>17461687
Oh ok I thought you were claiming to be able to speak and read at a comfortable level in just a couple of months. Ya im really just trying to speak it rather than reading in it.

Bonne chance mec

[Anonymous No.17461722]

>>17461696
Text books and just a lot of reading. I didn't fuck around with apps or flash cards or anything like that
>>17461698
Yeah, just reading

[Anonymous No.17462459]

>>17461687
Lol you're probably missing out on a ton of nuance and meaning if you think you can read those authors fluently after a measly 3 months of learning

[Anonymous No.17462488]

>>17460943
>Between having a social life
Yeah, you're right, you were always destined to be a monolingual plebeian.

[Anonymous No.17462494]

>>17461722
>Text books and just a lot of reading.
This is the way to go. 100%.

[Anonymous No.17463481]

>>17461084
read faggrot

[Anonymous No.17463491]

>>17460943
>>17461687
>learn French to read Sartre and Derrida, postmodernists who makes incoherent and bullshit sentences beyond understanding even for the french
...
you should read based authours : Camus, Céline, Balzac, Baudelaire, La Fontaine

[Anonymous No.17464458]

>>17461722
What do you recommend?

[Anonymous No.17464485]

it's the monthly /lit thinks it can learn french in 3 months thread

[Anonymous No.17464851]

>>17461687
I am doubtful, unless you read 6+ hours a day, in which case I will believe you.

[Anonymous No.17464886]

>>17463491
This, who the fuck sullies his mind with Derrida when they could be reading Camus and Céline.

[Anonymous No.17464907]

>>17464485
it takes diplomats 30 weeks to learn it studying a few hours each day. if you a neet you can do it

[Anonymous No.17464954]

>>17462459
native french speaker and I still find Flaubert incredibly hard to read closely. There's so much going on in the background, so many allusions, and clever stylistic tricks.