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Imagine having Augustine and Aquinas for your religion.
Oh.
We do.
It’s Ruth and Gehrig.
Why is Augustine best?
Only because St. Thomas didn’t have crucial worldly experience.
I’m here to listen to your best shots.

>> No.17457018
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17457018

>>17457002
>refutes your Semitic fairy tale nonsense

>> No.17457187

>>17457018
except he didn't and he believed it himself.
Jesus Christ are you people dumb as bricks.

>> No.17457197

>>17457187
Why do you have an opinion on someone whose works you have never read?

>> No.17457201

>>17457197
I Wiki'd it. My ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.

>> No.17457205

>>17457018
>God is not personal because... he just isn't

>> No.17457209

>>17457018
Augustine was Berber, Aquinas was Italian.
Yet Spinoza was an actual Semite.
Go away retard.

>> No.17457212

>>17457209
He was excommunicated.

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17457222

>>17457002
This kills the capricious, vindictive, hyper-daddy

>> No.17457269

>>17457212
He was excommunicated from his genes?

>> No.17457294

>>17457269
>genetic determinism
How does it feel being an NPC? I guess you wouldn't know

>> No.17457521

>>17457209
Aquinas was actually Normand, a descendant of the Normands who settled in Sicily.

>> No.17457597

>>17457002
>The City of Goo

>> No.17457643

>>17457521
His father's name is Landulf per Wiki. That's Lombard origin, not Norman. But since they were wealthy, could have intermarried at some point. But being a celibate Catholic priest, it doesn't matter who his ancestors were since he won't have descendents.

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17458796

Since Aquinas is getting brought up I want to mention I find his theory on werewolves interesting. He says demons can transmute flesh consistent with the Bible describing the staffs turning into snakes in Egypt. However, he says the soul can only be transmuted by God. Therefore, a werewolf would have full human agency and mind. Does /lit/ agree with this?

>> No.17458866

>>17457643
I’m looking this up.
These two are great.
When Augustine talks of the theater, it was live sex scenes and snuff films.
/lit/ is the best.
I never read these two, they’re so wise, and I had Catholic schooling all the way.

>> No.17458897

>>>/x/

>> No.17459071

>>17457002
say no to the scholastics, embrace the mystics

>> No.17459162

>>17459071
Who could be better than Augustine and Aquinas!
Who, I ask you!
I drive a tractor all day and can’t be bothered reading mystics!

>> No.17459655

>>17457002
Augustine was a charlatan with great rethoric skills.
Aquinas though is the real deal.

>> No.17459983

>>17459655
Doesn’t his lack of worldly experience matter?

>> No.17460006

>>17459655
Why do you say charlatan?

>> No.17460088

>>17457187
spinoza stopped being religiously jewish

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17460121

>>17457002
>refutes the Catholic Church
>refutes scholasticism
>retroactively refutes rationalist and modernist metaphysics
Yeah, I'm thinking based.

>> No.17460175

>>17459655
Aquinas greatly admired Augustine

>> No.17460184

Who are the Orthodox equivalents

>> No.17460203

>>17460184
>>17460121
This guy.

>> No.17460214

>>17460203
What are some books that either by him or about him?

>> No.17460259

>>17460214
Oh, I don't know, sorry. I got most of my information on him from priests and monks. He's famous for defending hesychasm and the mystical tradition of Orthodox Christianity. He asserted that it is possible to know god's energies directly - though not his essence - through mystical prayer. Very important for concepts like Theosis as well. This contrasts with the more rationalist approach of the Western church.

>> No.17460286

>>17460259
Where do I begin with orthodox theology then?

>> No.17460347

>>17460286
Depends on what you mean by that. The recordings of the Ecumenical Councils are all the doctrine you will ever need for the Eastern Orthodox Church. Palamism and the mystical tradition have a far stronger focus on practice than theory, but if you want to commit to seeking knowledge through revelation, you can begin with the Jesus Prayer. The Bible and some books on the life of the saints will also do you good. Honestly though, find a priest and ask. If you are serious about Orthodoxy, you need a Spiritual Father.

>> No.17460370

>>17460347
I suppose I have that western inclination to systematize and "legalize" a philosophy and theology. Really tough to break out of the habit

>> No.17460402

>>17459655
What Catholic hasn't sinned other than Christ? To call Augustine a charlatan is to acknowledge the wickedness of man. Of course, he was a charlatan, he was a man and confesses to it in Confessions. His unyielding faith and humility to turn toward God and seek forgiveness for his sinful ways make him a great Catholic. I'm sure Aquinas sinned and confessed to his Lord for his sins.

>> No.17462259

>>17460402
Agreed. This.