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>you need to stop fapping, go and have sex instead
is this guy serious?

>> No.17418161

>>17418153
He's right. Go wash your penis bucko

>> No.17418224

>>17418153
I'll keep watching porn, what else am I supposed to do? I live in an islamic country where having sex is punishable and also porn is prohibited, FUCK THIS SHIT.

>> No.17418229

>>17418224
Fuck boys like everyone else

>> No.17418241

>>17418153
Every actual Chad I know IRL watches porn. Not watching porn is incel cope. Hell we're in a groupchat and they send porn ALL the time, meanwhile me as an incel rarely watch porn and never even sent a video. It's cope.

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>>17418224
>>17418161
The point I’m trying to make is that his solution to porn ADDICTION (8 hour edge sessions) is to literally not touch your penis because it makes sex much better.

>> No.17418253

>>17418153
wanted to like this book, but it was academic and empirical trash

>> No.17418255

>>17418153
I never understood how that was supposed to work desu. Why is cooming during masturbation session supposed to affect you differently than cooming during sexual intercourse? I'm a 28 year old virgin, can any /lit/ sex-havers say what's the difference between the two in terms of how it affects your brain?

>> No.17418257

Pleasure is bad and you should feel bad for having it.

>> No.17418269

>>17418255
the bonding chemicals being released when with a woman and the sensual experience and all that

>> No.17418332

fapping gives me brainfog. Porn after a while gets tasteless. Different for everybody I guess

>> No.17418350

>>17418332
>fapping gives me brainfog
greymatter

>> No.17418447

>>17418153
Yeah I think excessive jerking off (ie every day) makes your pen0r much less sensitive and probably makes you have to acquire more and more extreme fetishes to stay aroused. So overall you should only orgasm with another human being.

>> No.17418605

why not just masturbate without pornography?

>> No.17418626

>>17418332
this, I feel bad, nervious and easily irritated after fapping, dunno why people get so upset about nofap, Im more sensitive about it so I dont do it, if it doesn't affect you, fap I don't care

>> No.17418659

>>17418626
of course people are going to get upset if you openly hold the view that something they do regularly is wrong this is also why lots of people hate veganism (meat eaters/fappers who dont probably havent realised theyre being seen as bad people)

>> No.17418668

>>17418255
because the problem is not ejaculation in itself, or even pornography in itself, but the practically endless stream of novel and varied content available for free in the privacy of your own home
you can watch hundreds of different girls in the span of a single hours-long edging session, this kind of stimulation has never been possible before high speed internet, unless you were a fucking sultan

>> No.17419000

I hate the idea of anti-porn evangelism but I've thought for a while about it and at the moment continually realize that when I masturbate without porn and just to what thoughts arouse me it's much better and more satisfying, feels very personal and real. With everything I've read about porn addicts and the industry itself I think I'm better off without it.

>> No.17419012

you shouldnt go full monk and completely swear off porn unless you are undeniably addicted to it (i.e. watching depraved shit like scat porn, jerking off 10 times a day, having it interfere with day to day living, choosing porn over pursuing relationships). otherwise its like any other entertainment.

the key difference is the orgasm aspect and dopamine effect, but a lot of things increase dopamine. you just dont want to flood your brain with dopamine constantly to the point it fries your receptors, but this again applies with things other than porn

>> No.17419016

>>17418257
This but unironically

>> No.17419019

>>17418153
Yeah dude that's why you get married. Rubbed my dick on waifus face for breakfast

>> No.17419048

>>17419000
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QjidbxN6geg&ab_channel=AllGasNoBrakes

Watch this video and you won't regret giving up on porn. Jerking off is fine, porn is fucking hell.

>> No.17419114

>>17419048
Hahaha, I've seen that. That video actually made the porn industry look good, just like a big funny party of weirdos. It was more the prevalence of abuse in the industry I had read about that made me want to quit, especially when that James Deen scandal happened and a bunch of male stars were coming to his defense saying "every guy was doing stuff like that."

>> No.17419129

not watching porn and masturbating to it is anti-semitic period.

>> No.17419271

>>17418153
Regular porn use has become too normalized imho. If you can control yourself and keep your porn usage to once a week, it's probably fine, but how many of us actually do that? Do a few google searches and you'll find out the majority of people watch porn on a regular basis.

It's just too readily available nowadays, more than it ever has been in the past, and a lot of people are consuming this shit at higher rates than ever before. It's bound to have negative consequences.

>> No.17419277

>>17419129
And thats a good thing.

>> No.17419293

>>17419277
>77
checked
and yes i know
its good to be anti-semitic.

>> No.17419297

>>17419048
Thanks for the video. It's a great reminder of what previous generations knew: porn is for fucking disgusting, degenerate losers and is run by mentally ill freaks.

Porn is evil. How has no one else mentioned Porn-Indiced Erectile Dysfunction? It is NOT NORMAL for 20 year old men to have ED. Death grip also reduces penile sensitivity to literally nothing. This shit is fucking obvious and people have lost all common sense.

>> No.17419330

>>17418250
Sounds like an actual solution. What's your counterargument?

>> No.17419349

>>17418153
He’s correct uncle. Stop fapping and feeding off of Jewish subversion

>> No.17419367

>>17419012
Wrong. You should stop anyway, as porn has zero positive consequences for you. It does not improve your health, and it does not make you relax. Actually, getting relaxed from it is a sign of addiction as the relaxation is caused by getting your fix for the withdrawal pangs.

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>>17418250
I won't have sex until women lose rights, so I will fap until then.

>> No.17419441

Does masturbating to erotica with camwhores on the other window count as porn?

>> No.17419452

>>17418241
get a load of this guy

>> No.17419469

>>17418153
>go and have sex
Oh ok, bro. What a great idea. How couldn't I come up with that?

>> No.17419501

>>17419441
>does masturbating to written porn with visual porn also available count?
double porn does count as porn, yes

>> No.17419525

>>17419501
But there's no sex anywhere.

>> No.17419554

>>17419297
um actually science says PIED isn't real

science is fucking retarded fuck science

>> No.17419594

PIED does seem like bullshit desu. I'm 30 and have masturbated every day I wasn't having sex since I was like 13 and dick still works fine.

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>>17418253
>wanted to like this book, but it was academic and empirical trash

>> No.17419639

>>17419367
what you think about written porn though? like literotica? I think it's no worse than using your imagination desu and way less addictive than video porn. Also I'm not a huge fan of hentai but cartoons lack the human element and no people are being exploited besides the viewer themselves. I wonder if this is in the book???

>> No.17419661

>>17419594
I think it's just a false narrative pushed by ecig/tabacoo companies to push blame away from the real thing that kills your dick (nicotine).

>> No.17419726

>>17419012
Porn literally starts to dictate what you get turned on by and how sex is supposed to look like even if its consumed moderately

>> No.17419731

>>17419726
not like ill have sex anyway

>> No.17419735

>>17419594
You have to do it multiple times a day

>> No.17419776

>>17418605
Unironically harder than sex or porn fapping

>> No.17420358

>>17418153
Haven't read that book but porn is still bad.
>>17418241
If your goal is to become a manwhore then porn is irrelevant.
>>17419594
It's not a guarantee. Same way you could smoke a pack a day and never get lung cancer.

>> No.17420374

>>17419016
this but ironically

>> No.17420716

Its pseudoscience that chuds buy up because "muh degeneracy"

>> No.17420743

4chan is far worse for your mental health than fapping ever could be

>> No.17420750

>>17418153
Have sex

>> No.17420986

>"The only reason that Jews are in pornography is that we think that Christ sucks. Catholicism sucks. We don't believe in authoritarianism. Pornography thus becomes a way of defiling Christian culture and, as it penetrates to the very heart of the American mainstream (and is no doubt consumed by those very same WASPs), its subversive character becomes more charged. "

>> No.17421203

https://easypeasymethod.org/index.html

>> No.17421246

>>17418255
Have sex

>> No.17421254

>>17418350
Huh?

>> No.17421263

>>17420986
>implying jews didnt get into porn because they like seeing girls get fucked on camera
they're right about christ being a cuck though, and catholics are boy molesters.

>> No.17421268

>>17419525
Porn doesn't have to be sex you dimwit

>> No.17421271

>>17418224
Get married, incel.

>> No.17421390

>>17418153
Isn't 90% of this book anecdotes from web forums

>> No.17421438

>>17419367
based and easypeasymethod-pilled

>> No.17421448

>>17418668
>his ancestors weren't sultans
ngmi

>> No.17421537

>>17419661
>kills your dick (nicotine).
Wut. Nicotine makes me hornier if anything due to that testosterone boost

>> No.17421570

>>17418241
Who the fuck wants to be a chad. The goal is not to fuck as many women as possible, to which porn is barely an impediment if you're already attractive, but to be a well rounded and fulfilled person, to which porn can be very detrimental, depending on your situation

>> No.17421589

i could see how porn is harmful if i was still trying to get a gf but now that i've given up and accepted my loneliness no porn just seems unnecessary blue balls

>> No.17421700

masturbating is ok but you should really be thirsty about the real thing and what you go after, not just jerking off at the slightest whim

you need to retain a certain amount and not just go down ill jerk off when ever and become a crusty coomer and even get to the point actual sex dosnt get you off

granted on the other extreme if you become a "thunder cock chad" and get it when ever you want you can have the same shit go on

>> No.17421708

>>17421589
you dont need to be dating some one to fuck or have to go at a relationship that is serious to fuck

>> No.17421727

>>17418224
Read the Quran and the Hadiths, Habibi.

>> No.17421763

>>17418241
That doesn’t mean they have fulfilling relationships.

>> No.17421859

>CONSUMERISM BAD!!!
>Stop consuming porn
>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO FUCK OFF INCEL

>> No.17421917

I was addicted to porn and it's gross, fucks up your sexuality or takes your nascent kinks and turns them into full-blown paraphilias. I'm talking hours and hours a day. It never felt like a good thing, even if I was being moderate. It's shameful for a reason. Also, to the incels and virgins, porn is like a cope and giving in when what you really want is human connection. Probably better to find an understanding prostitute than to watch porn everyday into your 30's never knowing intimacy. This is coming from someone who was very close to being an incel probably.

>> No.17421927

>>17421537
>60% higher risk of erectile dysfunction, compared to men who never smoked

>> No.17421946

>>17421927
>what is correlation vs causation
>what are confounding factors

>> No.17422148

>>17421946
It's not just a correlation, we know exactly why it causes erectile dysfunction. It's very well studied, just google it and you'll find a wealth of research.

Enjoy waking up to your dick randomly not working in your 30s

>> No.17422168

>>17418224
>In extremely Islamic country
Uhhhh have an arranged marriage to a hot Arabic cutie? You have no excuse unless you're cripplingly poor.

>> No.17422189

>>17418153
Yes. But imagine having sex as an average dude in 2021 hahahahaha. Also porn is really bad for you, shits a slippery slope getting you into really degenerate fetishes.

>> No.17422216

Pornography should be illegal. The state should provide relationship training for autists as well as genetically engineered peak attractiveness waifus. Men with genetic conditions who shouldn't breed should be paired with sterile waifus. Sex outside of holy matrimony should be criminalized. This would solve literally all of society's problems.

>> No.17422229

>>17422168
I talked to a woman from the one of those Gulf states, shes in a real bad situation and she still wont take any Arab suitors. Wants a good looking European, especially a loaded one if possible. Women are all the same even if they cant afford to be.

>> No.17422231

>>17418153
I'm addicted to porn, food and gaming like crazy. Those are the three excesses that holds my sanity together and makes me stay in my little dreamworld bubble, but at the same time holds me back and slowly destroys me. I'd often think how my life would be without those 3 things (have to eat food obviously but not going full gluttony). I'm most likely already depressed as fuck but cutting away those 3 things would push back the curtains and reveal so much piled up shit I haven't dealt with. All the thoughts of lost opportunities, wasted time, wasted school, wasted time on porn and gaming instead of going out meeting girls, wasted youth. This would probably be for the best. I'm not suicidal at all, I can see value and learning of suffering. But I'm just so, so lost. I want to quit but my brain goes full Mr Hyde when I'm horny or hungry. It's so good at convincing me to say "eh screw it" and indulge my bad habits. Don't even know how to begin change.

>> No.17422236

>>17422229
>woman is oblivious to her SMV
>demands a tall wealthy attractive White man
lel

>> No.17422245

>>17422231
Bro, addiction stems from trauma. Face it and heal it.

>> No.17422267

>>17422236
Happens more often than one would think. Whole worlds standards have gone up considerably.

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>>17418153
The irony is that Gary Wilson's science has been debunked but everyone on 4chan would benefit from quitting porn

>> No.17422415

>>17422231
My solution to people like you is a shock. The same kind of shock that you would feel if you were diagnosed with terminal cancer that is going to kill you in 3 weeks. Live with that kind of tension in your spirit (your death is immanent) and you will fix yourself autonomously. Disclaimer: May not be a good solution if you already have an anxiety disorder. This unironically fixed my life, but I'm now stuck with this constant existential tension which keeps pushing me onward and causes discontent when I'm at rest. I just need to find a way to temper it.

>> No.17422421

>>17422366
Proof?

>> No.17422441

>>17418153
>implying this is bad advice

>> No.17422445

porn is good

>> No.17422455

>>17422445
True, youve seen the latest BLACKED.com scene bro ?!

>> No.17422691

>>17422229
keep looking. Where are you from exactly? north africa?

>> No.17422696

>>17418153
Yes and he’s absolutely correct

>> No.17422706

I kniw porn is bad but I have nothing else in life. I just study in College and stay home because of covid. Throught friends I found out about a girl living on my streets but nothing happened. Idk if she knows or thinks I am shit. I really am thinking of suicide if the only thing I will do after with ny diploma is that I make society work and me I will get nothing but mlckery for being single. I am fucking out.

>> No.17422707

>>17422691
I am European myself haha. I just talked to her because, I dont know honestly. I felt bad for her, but eh. Just thought it was funny.
Also I dont look for any kind of woman, fuck my genetics

>> No.17422807

>>17418241
The problem you have is constantly comparing yourself to chads. Stop trying to be one and be recognized for your own merits. Anxiety is noxious.

>> No.17422818

>>17418350
Are you just dropping a random neurologic-related word or is this not the most pseud post I’ve ever seen?

>> No.17422827

>>17419776
Not for some. My previous gf would always orgasm from sex but I never would. Sometimes I could finish myself off after she went home, though. Very frustrating.

>> No.17422910

>>17422706
Have you asked her to accompany you for a cafe?

>> No.17422918

>>17422827
Get bigger condoms, I always felt like the standard ones killed my dick.

>> No.17422953

>>17422910
No I haven't spoke to her once. I talked to her mother tho. I was gardening around the house last summer and she came up and gave me advice. She was really sweet. But where should we go get a cafe if everything is close for humans.

>> No.17423028

>>17419012
Porn usage carries with it inherently a sense of secret depravity and weakness. A thing you would only do in private, and even then in a separate relegated time within that private time. Would most porn users really be comfortable with this fact? If they were watched, their masturbatory techniques, their taste in porn, their clicking speed between videos, their attention span. It all reeks of a bestial overtaking of the mind whenever the viewer is engaged in watching it. If this wasn't the case, there might not be anything wrong with it. But we all know that once the sweetness is tasted, you can slip down into a pit of disgusting things. Soon enough the stench will force you out unless you are completely degenerated. I think porn usage is just another symptom of a sedentary and alienating society. Its an extremely casual activity that people are strongarmed into by a lack of cohesion and lonelyness and access to a rotten stinking alcoholic fruit tree. It seems fantasitcal to imagine a tree with bitter peaches full of alcoholic juice. Its a wretched sexual fantasy. We should at least practice within erotica some level of standards. As with everything, people with an agenda will attempt to divide people into classes of non porn watchers and porn watchers, despite the fact that what really exists is people participating in the herd activity and seriously unhealthy people who engage in things like furry porn, scat, piss, violent diseased porn. >>17419048 This is a good example. But most people are not like this, and the 'form' of the loser will overtake with its negativity the form of the mislead man.

>> No.17423065

>>17422918
>>17422827
or don't use them at all like an actual man. if you still can't coom then you've got a problem

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read the easypeasy way to quit porn!

it's literally an addiction there is no difference to porn and other drugs like coke or heroine.
>it's not making your life better as much as taking a needle of heroine makes anyone's life better

once i realized this i could just walk away.

>> No.17423124

>>17418224
Fight other sexually repressed countries

>> No.17423131

>>17418255
Nigger I can’t stress this enough you gotta get your dick wet

>> No.17423132

>>17423065
Wasn’t using one lol

>> No.17423142

>>17418153
>porn addiction
Not real.

>> No.17423145

>>17421570
Chad is well rounded. Chad cannot get addicted to porn.

>> No.17423151

>>17422707
>>17422229
your family has a problem, I'm a christian arab in america, if I wanted a wife I could call up my grandma and I would have one set up in less than a week. Do not rely on some online dating bullshit, the type of arab woman that would find themselves there are the mentally ill retards like that girl. You have to connect through family or in person. I feel so bad for the whitebois here who don't have this option, its an amazing backup once I'm being a hedonistic idiot here in the west

>> No.17423167

>>17423151
As I said I am european, which to me means native, white european. It wasnt a dating site, well atleast its not on the surface. Seemed like she would rather hold out for something that would never come than take a boyfucking inbreed arab

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>As I said I am european, which to me means native, white european. It wasnt a dating site, well atleast its not on the surface. Seemed like she would rather hold out for something that would never come than take a boyfucking inbreed arab

>> No.17423193

>>17423167
>rather hold out for something that would never come than take a boyfucking inbreed arab
lmfao you are just talking to some mentally ill retard who probably isn't a virgin and is desperate to get out before the family finds out. But sure whatever pumps up your ego besides actually touching a female

>> No.17423516

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BsvYEkTzmGQ

if you haven't quit porn yet it's because you don't really want to

>> No.17423548

>>17421708
Oh?

>> No.17423550

>>17418250
fuck that i only do 8 hour edge sessions like every other month because it makes me fuck like a GOD and i love watching the bitches eyes roll back

>> No.17423689

>>17421708
nigga i cant even get a gf and you expect me to somehow have casual sex with a girl

>> No.17423697

If you keep watching porn you'll end up becoming a tranny.

>> No.17423813

>>17418250
Edging without porn is good though. It increases creativity.

>> No.17423838

>>17419048
Thank you for the video.

>> No.17423842

>>17423813
yeah, but your balzac gets really swollen after a while

>> No.17423871

>>17423028
this

>> No.17423895

>>17420716
stop trying to force your faggot kindergarten insult and agenda here faggot

>> No.17424046

>>17418255
Porn is the real enemy. Its overloading your brain with dopamine. Our brains are not ready for such stimuli overdose, you risk lower motivation and drive in almost all other areas of your life. Constant porn use is also making you worse in deep and meaningful work.

>> No.17424114

>>17418668

Why would that be a problem?

>> No.17424156

>>17418153
>we are not evolutiodarwinianodopaminochemicalobrainially made for porn
>are we evolutiodarwinianodopaminochemicalobrainially made for extra evolutiodarwinianodopaminochemicalobrainial disciple?
>well...uhhh.........see..uhh...i mean... that's uuhUUUUUUUH UHUHHHHHHHHHH..

>> No.17424169

>>17420743
Can you elaborate further on that?

>> No.17424195

>>17424169
I'm not the quoted anon, but he is right. Specially if you take the bs people in here say seriously. I used to lurk here since 2005 or something, and it is mostly to laugh at other anons' retardation. I started to realize that this was actually a problem back when those crazy shooters started to show on the news and got in here to maybe help shit not get worse.

This is a bad environment if you lack world knowledge and critical sense. Just look at the kind of conspiracy shit people shill in a /lit/ board and think about it.

>> No.17424202

>>17424195
And don't get me wrong, I love conspiracy shit, but I don't take this kind of thing seriously. Because it is conspiracy shit.

>> No.17424235

>>17424114
Why do you think? It stops you from putting in effort to have real relationships

>> No.17424242

>>17424235
And why that is a bad thing?

>> No.17424244

I quit porn when I was 20 cold turkey it was quite easy
after a couple of months I didn't miss it at all and my libido actually went up
I soon after lost my virginity since have had a lot of sex

>> No.17424250

>>17424242
Do you think that I should be wasting my time going after other people?

>> No.17424258

>>17424250
Don't get me wrong, it is probably worth it if you got nothing better to do and the spare time to do it.

>> No.17424262

>>17424242
Do you think staying in your room and beating your meat all day is better than interacting with people and growing as an individual? If so, why don't you just end it here and now, you're doing nothing but wasting resources.

>> No.17424272

>>17424262
I don't do it all day. I'm reading and sometimes I watch porn. How that is more time consuming than having a girlfriend? They require a bunch of shit, you have to go out with them, you also have to keep inventing bs to message to them, if they feel neglected they will cheat on you or leave. It is fucking annoying when compared to it.

>> No.17424277

>>17418224
Left your retarded religion (no literally, only the retarded ideas in the past) and not teach a your children these ideas.

>> No.17424284

>>17424262
Don't get me wrong, anon. I'm not saying that I won't ever try to get into someone. But I'm definitely not going to have a girlfriend for the sake of not being alone. Most people are just fucking worthless on that regard. They can't even keep themselves entertained. I'm not fucking clown, anon. Got better things to do and a bunch of problems to solve.

>> No.17424300

>>17424272
How can you be this retarded, honestly. It's not about which is more or less time consuming. It's about which allows you to grow as an individual.
>>17424284
>But I'm definitely not going to have a girlfriend for the sake of not being alone.
I never said you should. You're right there. That doesn't mean you should be obsessively beating your meat either, though. They're not either/or. Don't have a girl and stop watching porn and you'll feel much better. Get a girl when you have your life in order and you can elevate both.

>> No.17424325

>>17424300
> How can you be this retarded, honestly. It's not about which is more or less time consuming. It's about which allows you to grow as an individual.

How? I used to have a girlfriend and it is not like I severely improved on anything. You do get to know certain things about women but other than that it is mostly a time sink.

> That doesn't mean you should be obsessively beating your meat either, though.

I'm made of flesh and bones, I'm no fucking saint, anon. If I don't do it, I start to think about fucking relationships and guess what is going to happen? I'm going to end up with someone just for the sake of it.

>> No.17424355

>>17424325
Not every girl is the same
Sounds like you project too much because of one bad relationship, kind of robotic view on things tb h
Maybe you should stay alone and jerk off mire pussy for us

>> No.17424364

>>17424262
>speaks of "bestial" things
>proudly claims people are insects with continuous lives and meanings in service to a bug context and in service of material resources like a literal bug

Sad.

>> No.17424368

Real /lit/ issue:

How do you cope with knowledge of the story of Kelly Balthazar Wang?

I haven’t watched porn in years. But whenever I see a screenshot posted of her face, I can’t stop thinking about the baseness of her action for like 2 weeks straight

>> No.17424374

>>17424355
That is the point, anon. Not every girl is the same, exactly my point. Which means that the one I want is probably 1 in a 100 or more. Yes, I would rather be alone than be with just a pussy. I don't feel like being the next xxPussy Slayerxx.com or whatever, got other things on my mind.

>> No.17424391

>>17424355
And I won't really judge you, I don't care, anon. You can go after people and whatever. I understand that perfectly. But my decision is to not spend my time on it.

>> No.17424395

>>17418153
Masturbating is competely normal and healthy. Humans have done it since they've been anatomically able to, and always will. Watching porn is bad for many different reasons, but there is absolutely nothing wrong with jacking off.

>> No.17424428

>>17418224
>what else am I supposed to do?
stop being a degenerate and surrender to Allah

>> No.17424471

>>17422148
But he's right. You incorrectly claimed that nicotine causes ED. If you claimed tobacco products cause ED, you would be correct.

>> No.17424484

>>17423842
Maybe he should stop drinking so much coffee

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>>17419012
>to the point it fries your receptors
is there any way that i can repair/fix them? i feel completely numb to everything in life at this point.

>> No.17424563

>>17424541
Yes, they regrow if you stop doing it. Theres a book about, thoigh I’ve never read it - A Brain That Heals Itself

>> No.17424612

>>17418153
yes. And he's inarguably right. Porn is the perfect drug.
>>17418224
go fuck a little kid at the mosque as all your colleagues do.
>>17418241
fake chads
>>17418255
sex actually satisfies your urges, mastrvation leaves you longing like any fucking hedonist trap.
If you want the 100% pure red pill nothing and I say NOTHING satisfies like coooomming inside the pussy of the woman you love and you have married, without a problem in the world because you want kids and are ready for anything that might happen.
Anything else is a co-op out and ruins this pleasure retroactively. this is why you are supposed to arrive virgin at the bridal bed.
As usual, tradition btfos any and all modernist lies.
>>17418257
There is One Pleasure that is good which is oneness with God.
Then there's the pleasure of the bridal chamber that comes close enought.
Then there are other semi virtuous pleasures such as the satisfation of a job well done, the consolations of philosophy and so on.
Then there are the lesser pleasures you can indulge in to time to time in moderation as long as you don't lose sight of the ONE that moves the sun and the other stars.
Then finally there's fucking degeneracy.
>>17418668
this one gets it, it is made to be addictive, a supernormal stimulus against which our neurology has no defense.
>>17420986
here we go
>>17421263
yours invented boy molesting then infiltrated the church.

>> No.17424617

>>17424541
retire in the countryside, bury your phone and your laptop live like a monk for years.

>> No.17424702

>>17418668
I've mostly been looping the same 2 porn videos for like 2 months now. Do people really have 20 tabs open when watching porn?

>> No.17424775

>>17418668
>I'm as jacked up as an ancient, Middle Eastern despot
Fucking nice

>> No.17425375

>>17424368

This. The absurdists could not have conjured something close to this

>> No.17425399

I'm probably the most degenerate coomer of the board, yet I quit porn easily, it's not hard to overcome at all even if you're lonely, but those are probably the meds I'm taking.

>> No.17425417

>>17425399
Yes, probably. I can't stand it, I start to feel urges, thinking about other people and feel like going out. Then I think how much time I'm going to waste.

>> No.17425543

Pornography is a destroyer of society . Japan is example A, with its ageing population and easy access to porn. Large scale sex industries are thriving in Japan, while marriage and family are declining. Relationships have suffered so has the family structure. Why marry or have relationships when you can have the milk without buying the cow? Dying societies tend to become more self isolating and inward and die out. Japan is just the start of the end.

>> No.17425951

Why do people need an ideology or some based science man to tell them to not do something they don't want to do. If you don't want to do it or it makes you feel ashamed just don't do it. You don't need to go through all this effort to justify it. Either it has a detrimental effect on your life or it doesn't.

>> No.17426004

>>17425417
get a pet

>> No.17426177

>>17418626
That's because you see fapping as something bad and you feel guilty afterwards. If you see it as just a relief valve and a normal sexual behavior (which it is, especially for people that don't have sex) the anxiety post-fap will stop.

>> No.17426498

>>17424471
But I'm right retard
>Nicotine has a direct effect on the blood vessels that carry blood to the penis, by reducing the blood flow and this makes getting and maintaining an erection difficult.

>> No.17427295
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Anybody read this book? Is it worth the time?

>> No.17427813

>>17427295

Yes. It is hard to find for a reasonable price

>> No.17427973

>>17424541
Dopamine detox. It feels like absolute shit.

>> No.17428008

>>17427973
I never tried that but noporn, nofapping and not using shit like social media and 4chan is already a big improvement in my experience. Dopamine detox is brutal and most guys wont do it.

>> No.17428012

>>17428008
Does it involve not downloading/reading books?

>> No.17428041

>>17428012
As far as I remember it means no form of entertainment, even imagination. Honestly seems kind of trolly, you would need guided expertise or something shocking for that to work.

>> No.17428058

>>17428041
Why not just limit it?

>> No.17428073

>>17428012
You can do a version that allows reading books.
Otherwise you'd need to go to a meditation retreat in the desert or something.

>> No.17428088

>>17428058
I am repeating what Ive read in a greentext anon, on memory. Just cut out shit you know is not good for you, and yes that means 4chan. Read more in that time, maybe something more objective and not emotionally charged, I love history for example.

>> No.17428145

>>17423107
Didn't work for me, or hopefully didn't work for me yet.
The book is also much longer than it needs to be.

>> No.17428173

>>17424368
It gives me a certain kind of satisfaction that the internet does not forget, even for members of the elite.

>> No.17428179

>>17428088
Yes, that makes sense. I might try that out some time.

>> No.17428201

>>17423107
This.
The Easypeasy Way to quit Porn is the best piece of work to stop with most addictions, not just porn.
Everyone should read it.

>> No.17428229

>>17424368
I don't know the story no search results are useful. TELL US.

>> No.17428355

>>17422168
But what if it's an ugly hag haha.

>> No.17428528

>>17424368
huh, so the facial abuse girl is the weed-dealing daughter of a GS bigwig? What else is there to the story?

>> No.17428541

>>17427295
>>17427813
I'm reading it. Definitely recommend. You will find yourself taking notes, writing down quotes, and standing up to pace and think every now and then because it's so damn thought provoking and even mind-blowing at times. It goes leaps and bounds beyond mere "nofap". It will help you make sense of the world as it is today in such a way that it will seem obvious to you, as if it filled the missing pieces of a puzzle you had long been thinking about.
It's also quite entertaining, as it is built around biographical history. You get to learn a lot about the personal lives of many historical figures/intellectuals. He likes to make connections between people's ideas and their personal lives. In his words:
>I started reading biographies. The lives of these people seemed to provide to me an explication of their texts in a way that their texts did not themselves. There seems to be a connection between the way we live, and the way we think

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>>17418153
Just don't watch porn, and also don't have that much sex, pair bond with people. It is going to be hard to find someone with those convictions, and even harder to find someone who doesn't think of you as a lesser for those convictions in a relationship, but it's worth it when you find your match. Above and beyond all else your focus should always be on yourself and your spirit, with due consideration to who you can help so as to not death spiral into narcissism and looking down upon others.

>> No.17428714

>>17428682
>Above and beyond all else your focus should always be on yourself and your spirit, with due consideration to who you can help so as to not death spiral into narcissism and looking down upon others.
How can you help others if your own life is a mess? Suppose, uh, you are unemployed but you also want to practically love others.
All in all based post I love the way you see the world anon. God bless.

>> No.17428758

>>17428714
god bless

>> No.17428928

>>17418255
Basically the brain is hardwired for sex addiction. Drugs, gambling, etc. are addicting but not in the same way since they aren't engrained into us like sex even on the reptile level.

Porn is commodified, instant gratification. The brain takes every new porn video as a novel sexual experience, which will to simplify fry your brain. Dopamine is related to craving/anticipation, so people essentially become unambitious because they've found an easy out to appease their reward center. With partners you get intimacy, you have emotional rewards, you have incentives, you have competition, etc. but these things which are inherently part of being human are all absent with porn.

>> No.17428956

>>17418241
>caring about other dudes sending porn to eachother
what the fuck gayass groupchat are you part of, you thing chads help send eachother stuff to jerk off to? fuck outta here. Chads don't need porn because they actually get laid.

>> No.17428972

>>17422827
bruh she might just have had that whack pussy you weren't feeling

>> No.17428986

>>17424541
might include actually doing things that are fulfilling and stopping to appreciate what you've done

>> No.17429012

>>17428714
It's easier to do something for someone else than to do it for yourself. It's just one of those weird social mammal things.

>> No.17429200

Any advice for a 32 year old virgin?

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>>17427295
>>17427813
>>17428541
Here's your scholarship bro

>> No.17429437

There's no evidence watching porn "fries your dopamine receptors" or shit like that

>> No.17429626

>>17418224
your parents can give u a sex toy via marriage. fucking do it

>> No.17429634

>>17429200
have sex

>> No.17430073

I read easypeasy for the third time and am adamant on dropping porn.I got curious and downloaded Tinder and casual sex seems like a bad idea,that app almost makes me nauseous.
Disgusting stuff really

>> No.17430090

>>17429427
What’s wrong with it?

>> No.17430100

>>17429012
Good point.

>> No.17431435

According to Hegel's hierarchical scale of desires, erotic desire shows an imbalance between the desiring subject and the desired object, which is typical of a purely natural and non-spiritual relationship. That is to say that carnal knowledge, with its object devoid of its own Self, represents for Hegel an inferior form of knowledge. The subject-object inequality peculiar to erotic love is only overcome by participation in the ethical substance, which requires the mutual recognition of equal self-awareness. Marriage itself is a master slave dialectic. It is a position of power and subordination, of hierarchal imbalance, of sexual relations. You should transcend this primitive desire towards the higher ideal.

>> No.17431638

>>17428956
Chads do what they do without overthinking it

>> No.17431644

>>17422827
Restore.

>> No.17431685

>>17431435
damn

>> No.17432243

>>17424364
>STILL NO MOTHERFUCKING REPLIES

THE ABSOLUTE STATE!

>> No.17433023

if you wank too much you become Bloom, if you abstain then you become Dedalus.

>> No.17433149

>>17418255
because sex self regulates in a way that porn doesn't, the set of chemicals released is different and quantities are different, sex has a less harsh comedown because of this also is less compulsive because of this

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>>17418224
>lives in a country where women aren't disgusting "liberated" fuckholes with three-digit body counts yet
>is somehow complaining about this

>> No.17433183

I broke my dick and i Still cant stop

>> No.17433294

>>17433183
>I broke my dick
elaborate

>> No.17433390

>>17433294
It's called hard flaccid syndrome. I have had it for months. It's some kind of pelvic floor dysfunction that causes the flaccid penis to remain hard, sometimes it manifests as an hourglass shape when semi erect. Stop edging if you do.

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>>17430073
Think twice before feeding your self into that machine.

>> No.17434185

>>17418153
fapping in itself is not necessarily a bad thing.
Watching porn is very bad though.

>> No.17434188

>>17433390
>sometimes it manifests as an hourglass shape when semi erect.
bro what the fuck

>> No.17434193

>>17430073
What's disgusting about plucking a thot from the cock carousel?

>> No.17434240

>>17431435
Hegel, Schopenhauer, Socrates

You won't need women after that. You will take the femboy pill

>> No.17434256

>>17434240
>socrates
you mean plato i assume

>> No.17434262

>>17434240
You misinterpret the Hegelian anon's analysis. Erotic desire itself is a debased relationship of subject-object and master-slave dialectic. It is inferior to spiritual knowledge.

>> No.17434278

>>17424368
I saw her dad has an obituary, and my first thought was to assume he offed himself after finding out what his daughter did.
In fact it was just the 'rona.
RIP old man, sorry what your degen daughter became.

>> No.17434530

>>17434262
Hegel's a schizo incel. I don't care what that charlatan says.
>>17434240
Please, shut up.

>> No.17434539

>>17434530
Hegel wasn't an incel. He was married.

>> No.17434546

>>17434530
Hegel was a Chad that cucked his own landlord and married a girl twenty years younger than him at 40.
Schopenhaur was a proto-incel manlet

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>>17434262
Zizek on Hegel's analysis of sexuality

>Far from providing the natural foundation of human lives, sexuality is the very terrain where humans detach themselves from nature: the idea of sexual perversion or of a deadly sexual passion is totally foreign to the animal universe. Here, Hegel fails with regard to his own standards. He only considers how, in the process of culture, the natural substance of sexuality is cultivated, sublated, mediated—we humans no longer just make love for procreation, we get involved in a complex process of seduction and marriage by means of which sexuality becomes an expression of the spiritual bond between a man and a woman, and so forth. However, what Hegel misses is how, once we are within the human condition, sexuality is not only transformed/civilized, but, much more radically, changed in its very substance.

>It is no longer the instinctual drive to reproduce, but a drive that gets thwarted as to its natural goal (reproduction) and thereby explodes into an infinite, properly meta-physical passion. The becoming-cultural of sexuality is thus not the becoming-cultural of nature, but the attempt to domesticate a properly un-natural excess of the meta-physical sexual passion. This is the properly dialectical reversal of substance: the moment when the immediate substantial (“natural”) starting point is not only acted upon, trans-formed, mediated/cultivated, but changed in its very substance. We not only work upon and thus transform nature; in a gesture of retroactive reversal, nature itself radically changes its “nature.” (In a homologous way, once we enter the domain of legal civil society, the previous tribal order of honor and revenge is deprived of its nobility and appears as common criminality.) This is why Catholics who insist that only sex for procreation is human while coupling for lust is animal totally miss the point and end up celebrating the animality of humans.

>> No.17434638

>>17419639
It's worse than visual porn

>> No.17434757

>>17434581
damn we're getting deep itt

>> No.17434983

>>17428229
>comes from rich family
>does some degenerate porn to stick it up to her 'rents
>gets disowned, but was worth it
that's the story basically.

>> No.17434988

>>17434530
yikes

>> No.17435101

>>17434185
Porn is alright as long as you aren't a retard. Everyone else knows it's fake and that pornstars are all losers, plus it's very easy to just stick to your taste and fetishes (i.e. slippery slope is nonsense and it's retards making an excuse)

>> No.17435903
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We can no longer assert our sexual identities without being enslaved by our own desires.
Sexualities are intricately and interestingly woven into identities in ways that are as difficult to understand as consciousness itself; in short,
we're fucked.

>> No.17436173

>>17418255
>Why is cooming during masturbation session supposed to affect you differently than cooming during sexual intercourse?
Cooming to porn is unnatural and it's a degraded and debased replacement for real sex and bonding with a partner.
The same way processed junk food is a replacement for real food. You get the same empty and addictive feeling to both.
Both are seemingly what they are thought to represent but only on the surface. Watching porn isn't sexuality and eating junk food isn't nourishment.Your body doesn't react the same way to pixel women fucked on the screen as it does to you putting your dick in a flesh and blood female. Your body doesn't recieve the nutrients it needs from pizza and mcdonalds, just dopamine hit and inflammation.
You can find many other examples of that with the simulated reality of today's world.
I only had one partner but we'd edge for hours and do stuff like sniff each other's arm pits and pubes, period sex, letting her finger my ass till I come, and it felt like heaven and not like having a sore dick in my hand watching drugged women raped on the screen.

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>>17431435
Based and Hegelpilled

>> No.17436420

>>17434278
That fucker was jewish. One theirs have fallen to their own arcane.

>> No.17436478

>>17418241
then hes not a chad

>> No.17436577

I feel suicide-levels of loneliness when I try to quit porn. I’m 24 and khv. Fuck...

>> No.17436700

>>17436577
What does khv means?

>> No.17436708

>>17436700
Is it like some sort of a sport car

>> No.17436713

>>17436700
I’m guessing it’s kissless hugless version

>> No.17436758

>>17434581
He looks like an adult child. King beds are only for kings.

>> No.17436794

>>17436713
It isn't kindergarden hysteric van?

>> No.17436879

>>17418447
>only fapping to traps now

>> No.17436936

everyone talks about their brain on porn but never their porn on brain...

>> No.17436939

>>17419048
Holy shit!

>> No.17437125

>>17423028
Good read anon

>> No.17437151

>>17423107
It was helpful. Will read it again to hopefully get a better grasp on it, I’ve been slipping lately

>> No.17437161

>>17436577
You’re only digging yourself deeper down with each coom

>> No.17437167

>>17423107
I've never been addicted to things because I thought they made my life better. I just know they feel good in the moment. And I'm a dumb zoomer who can't resist temptation.

>> No.17437190

im khhv i cant get laid so i fap to porn but its hard to quit

>> No.17437197

>>17437190
It gets easier.
Once you break free from the expectation that you need to coom x times a day to be happy, you get more time to work on yourself

>> No.17437200

>>17419048
just, lol

>> No.17437217

>>17418153
>literally impossible for me to get laid
>christcucks, feminists and 4channelers want me to give up fapping so I won’t have any sexual stimulation of any kind because “you’re a coomer” or something
Nah, fuck you. Once women stop solely fucking only the top 20% of men I might reconsider

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>>17418224
Are fleshlights illegal in your country?

>> No.17437226

>>17437217
Do you think porn is making you happier? Is it giving you theconnection you want?

>> No.17437231

>>17437197
no its not easy i get rape and violent thoughts when abstaining

>> No.17437244

>>17437167
the devil's only weapon is temptation my friend

>> No.17437245

>>17437231
What’s the longest you stopped for?
See a therapist if you haven’t already. If you turn into a degenerate because you haven’t coomed for a bit it may be indicative of deeper issues

>> No.17437247

>>17437226
It’s better than nothing.

>> No.17437261

>>17437247
You don’t know that until you’ve gone without.
Porn is just an unnecessary need we created for ourselves. Constant dopamine hits make natural stimulus feel less rewarding

>> No.17437266

>>17437244
k, but that doesn't help me at all

>> No.17437277

>>17437245
a couple months nothin changed

>> No.17437284

>>17422827
I don't know what the deal is with this shit. I have this problem sometimes.
>>17422918
>>17423065
We stopped using condoms but it's the same issue. Sometimes I come sometimes I can't no matter what. She loves it, I can fuck her full out 100% forever and I can't nut. It feels good too though so it's not her pussy that's wrong this has been consistent across multiple partners. Funny enough if I jack off with our without porn I can easily cum in like a minute or two

>> No.17437360

>>17437284
>Funny enough if I jack off with our without porn I can easily cum in like a minute or two
Sounds like you’re more used to jacking it than sex

>> No.17437573

>>17418255
>Why is cooming during masturbation session supposed to affect you differently than cooming during sexual intercourse?

The ecstatic fee is meant precisely to connect you with another. Whereas with masturbation that drive/impulse is turned in upon itself, upon one's imagination, rather than upon another. It is thus an inversion or perversion of the sexual act.

>> No.17437978

>>17437284
Exactly the same for me. >>17437360
Maybe this dudes right ? I always thought its just anxiety, even had it with my gf back then.

>> No.17438030

>>17418153
I Didn't want to do no fap November so I just stopped watching porn and holy fucking shit did I not realized how much that shit was fucking up my head. I'm in month 3 and it still blowing my mind how much my brain is still reprograming. Sex with my wife alone is the best I have ever had. I put porn blockers up on my pc to make sure I don't slip. I am really driven to keep this up.

>> No.17438144

>>17436420

he was catholic

>>17428229

https://kiwifarms.net/threads/kelly-christina-baltazar-kelly-jiayi-wang-amelia-wang-mayli-jiayiwang_inkart.64401/

This thread will tell you all you need to know.

>> No.17438150

>>17428173

how could anybody ever forget this. its a seminal story.

>> No.17438189

>>17428528

see

>>17438144

>> No.17438249

>>17421763
>Thinking that exists in the western world with no fault divorces

>> No.17438293

>>17422189
nah, you kind of stop going further down the fetish hole, there is a limit to what I like, and its never really going to expand.

>> No.17438319

>>17418153
unless porn is fucking with your ability to function, there is no real downside.

>> No.17438788

"The only way to get rid of a temptation is to yield to it. Resist it, and your soul grows sick with longing for the things it has forbidden to itself, with desire for what its monstrous laws have made monstrous and unlawful." - Portrait of Dorian Gray

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porn is visual cocaine bros, don't beat your meat night and day

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>>17424046
>Its overloading your brain with dopamine.

So is just about every aspect of life in the modern industrial world. Porn is no greater a threat than a big mac, marvel movie or rock concert. so why single out porn? how embarrassing that america has never truly evolved past its puritanical roots.

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>>17424046
>deep and meaningful work.

like what, greeting shoppers at wallmart?

>> No.17439111

>>17435101
>Everyone else knows it's fake
That's not the point. Everyone knows meth is bad, but yet loads of people are still using them.

It's about porn being or becoming as bad as an addiction as heroin.

>> No.17439191

>>17418255
It just is. I'm not going to give you a long winded explanation for why having sex with a girl is better than rubbing your own penis because it should be obvious

>> No.17439195

>>17439191
Life isn't necessarily about feeling good, anon.

>> No.17439202

>>17439191
That's what I'm fucking saying, bro. People have lost all common sense. Gotdang Kali Yuga, man, tell you h'what.

>> No.17439265

>>17424368
>>17434983
>>17438144
What's so special about this story?
That it's someone from the "elite"?
All pornstars are someone's daughter and they get abused for money.

>> No.17439269

>>17435101
>slippery slope is nonsense
slippery slope is 100% fact. you just never were bored enought kek

>> No.17439277

>>17439265
I don't really get it, people do it for the money. The main problem is that stigma around it because of religion and everything. There are diseases too, I do remember seeing some actresses complaining that they get paid more if they do scenes without a condom and that some got diseases.

>>17439269
This anon is right, that is the whole Sasha Grey thing. She did all kind of weird shit because it paid more.

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>>17439111
>porn being or becoming as bad as an addiction as heroin.

physiologically impossible. do u even know how utterly stupid u sound?

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>>17419129
>not watching porn and masturbating to it is anti-semitic period.
>tfw anti-semitic Jew

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>>17439285
if only you did your research, coombrain in denial

>> No.17439314

Could mods please change the board name to /ince/ pls
No more pretense

>> No.17439331

>>17439277
>There are diseases too
Yeah, look up interview with ex pornstars who advocate against porn, they get STDs all the time and vaginal tears and anal injuries, and they are drugged on camera sometimes. It's absolute abomination in a nice package.

>> No.17439351

>>17439297
not impressed by modern phrenology. no one has ever gone into porn withdrawal. heroin is a totally different beast that leaves u physically dependent. if your mom takes away your phone and u can't look at porn, u may be pissed off, but you'll be just fine.

>> No.17439360

>>17439351
>literally just lying out your ass

>> No.17439402

>>17439351
I don't give the slightest fuck whether you're impressed or not.
Keep cooming as much as you like, it's your life.
But do not refute something you have literally 0 experience in.
"physiologically impossible" my fucking ass

>> No.17439445

I think I've permanently fucked up my brain with porn, I can't get hard to real women, only to women on a screen. I've abstained from porn for months now and still no improvement. I think watching porn from a young age and throughout your teenage years is especially harmful, these years are important for your sexual development and by watching porn you're wiring your sexuality around artificial stimuli. Hopefully I can rewire my brain to be stimulated by real women, even if it takes years.

>> No.17439473

>>17439445
I've accepted that it may take years for me, anon. It's really fucked, but it is what it is. Godspeed.

>> No.17439506

>>17437167
You never think you are addicted to porn until you decide to quit.
Just because you aren't doing 10 hour edging sessions with 20 tabs of bsdm porn on doesn't mean you aren't an addict.

>> No.17439511

>>17437247
Porn is literally nothing though.

>> No.17439541

>>17439506
reread my post and then delete yours

>> No.17439775

>>17437573
>proudly claiming that human relation are based on sex

The A B S O L U T E state!

>> No.17439809

>>17439445
>>17439473
It would take most people a few months of no PMO to reboot their brain, but fear is holding you niggas back. Read the pmohackbook.

>> No.17439879

>>17422231
You need to understand that porn is pleasurable; and disregard is regardless.

You do things for pleasure, why is that? Pleasure is a signal, and your mind can intercept the turning point from wanting pleasure to trying to achieve it.

It is entirely possible to reorder your mind such that your rational has higher priority than pleasure. This reordering takes time and energy, but it very much possible.

>> No.17439892

Does this guy have any empirical evidence to back up his claims? Like did he find people that watch too much porn, got them to reduce porn consumption and their measures improved? If not he is a fraud

>> No.17439897

>>17422231
>>17439879
And to add, you need to keep this rational part of you working all the time. If you stop listening to it, even for one moment, your primitive side will take full priority.

>> No.17439900

>>17439892
It probably changes people's lives. Try it out and notice if you don't suddenly start feeling like going out and meeting other people.

>> No.17439911

>>17439297
Maybe that porn guy also used heroin. What does the color and area mean. Certainly the brain of heroin addicts doesn't shrink this much by pure mass. How would they be able to breathe and eat?

>> No.17439921

>>17439900
>p-probab-bly t-trust me
No provide proof. How would I know it is the porn and not something else?

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>>17424368

>> No.17439958

>>17439911
>shrunk
you don't even know how that graph works, shut the hell up.

>> No.17439962

>This is what lit discusses

Become a better board lit

>> No.17439965

>>17439962
Unironically this, just read the fucking DSM-5, anons. FFS.

>> No.17439971

>>17418241
>I circlejerk with a group of men
ok anon

>> No.17439978

>>17438899
Not everyone is a neet that has no aspirations and amounts to nothing.

>> No.17439982

>>17438895
Well those things are not good for you either and you should do them in moderation. Porn becomes an addiction and no person can use it in moderation.

>> No.17440033

>>17439445
Do you actually interact with women that you say you don't get hard from them?
I've been fapping to porn 3 times a day from the age of 15 till 22 and even watching degenerate cuckshit and I managed to cut out porn, start talking to girls and got sex and a gf eventually and didn't have any problems getting hard.
The main issues for me are mental with imagining every woman is deep down an immoral cum craving whore and other ideas you get imprinted with from porn but those seem to go away when I'm disconnect from the internet for long periods of time.

>> No.17440339

>>17439965
>DSM
jews are not allowed in here

>> No.17440353

>>17418224
Goats are still an option Ahmed. You failed your god, there will be no free virgins for sinners like you in the afterlife.

>> No.17440469

>>17424612
>sex actually satisfies your urges, mastrvation leaves you longing like any fucking hedonist trap.
Sex addicts still exist.

>> No.17440476

>>17425543
Japan is where it's at because of their shitty work culture not because of their sex industry. The sex industry is supplying a demand of depressed virgins that has existed for decades.

>> No.17441697

>moderation is harder than abstaining
Shit. Maybe the greeks were right.

>> No.17441817

>>17441697
The "slippery slope" is real.

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>>17418250
>8 hour edge sessions

seriously who the fuck has time for this? Almost all day pulling yourself that's insane

>> No.17441847

>>17418224
>porn and sex are both prohibited that's why I watch porn and don't have sex
lmao

>> No.17442251

>>17418224
>porn is prohibited
Based

>> No.17442257

>>17439265

She was a straight A student in high school, from a rich family. Went to Georgetown and Columbia afterwards. In between, she did porn 5 days after turning 18. She got her face raped for $200 (!!!). It was not about the money, it was not a bit of “naughty fun” .This is a more than just a base act

>> No.17442275

>>17440033

Wow- I can relate to the imaging every woman as an immoral whore.

>> No.17442745

>>17419367
tru-pilled, addicts will argue with you all day. Don't bother.

>> No.17442756

>>17423107
I think that book worked on me, even though I didn't finish it. Just the realization that it's a waste of time made me loose the desire.