ESL

[Anonymous No.17404662]

No matter how much I read and write, whenever I come across a piece of writing by a native, it always feels like he's a stick above me

[Anonymous No.17404781]

>>17404662
Just write on your own language, anon. I write things in English mainly when I feel like it.

[Anonymous No.17404788]

>>17404662
Because he probably is. It’s his native language. But who cares?

[Anonymous No.17404799]

>>17404662
Get a life

[Anonymous No.17404877]

>>17404781
>tfw you moved from country to country during your formative years and as a result don't have a native language

[Anonymous No.17404915]

>>17404662
>Tfw my linguistic prowess puts Angl*s to shame and moistens their women

[Anonymous No.17404952]

>>17404877
Well, that is weird. Pick one then (as in use both and just use whatever you feel like it). Which one do you use at home? That is kinda what I do, I feel more comfortable writing about computer related things in English. But I would rather write in Portuguese if I'm going to write something about my dog or my family. Why don't you pick things like I do? Using your own fragments of life, then summing them up in the languages that they happened.

[Anonymous No.17405046]

>>17404877
This happened to me too, I just replaced thinking in my first language with English.

[Anonymous No.17405060]

>tfw can only speak *nglish and some español
feels bad man. burger education

[Anonymous No.17405264]

>>17404662
What's your story anon what countries did you move through?

[Anonymous No.17405414]

Have you considered killing yourself?

[Anonymous No.17405419]

>17405060
what's the * mean?

I think most kids in the USA are getting screwed out of knowing a second language.
I think most people learn some A1 spanish or french in high school and then promptly forget it all.

[Anonymous No.17405641]

>>17404662
>a stick above me

that isn't an idiom

[Anonymous No.17405663]

>>17405641
He probably meant a step ahead.

[Anonymous No.17405670]

Feels good to be EFL, ngl.

[Anonymous No.17406069]

>>17405663
He meant a cut above

[Anonymous No.17406082]

>>17406069
Why if he can study and end up learning it anyway?

[Anonymous No.17406096]

>>17405670
That doesn't matter, anon. It is not like I vocalize words anyway. I would probably count information density per line or something.

[Anonymous No.17406106]

>>17406096
And even that isn't that important, you have to get that shit anyway. The language is unironically the easiest part of everything. I bought a French calculus book to my Calculus 3 classes (I was studying French for around 6 months) and being honest the easiest part of the book was the French.

[Anonymous No.17406131]

>>17404662
If you want to feel less impressed by the proficiency of native English speaker just spend a few weeks in the Appalachians.

[Anonymous No.17406134]

>>17404662
Do not feel bad, anon. No native has written a book with better English than Joseph Conrad in the last 2 centuries.

[Anonymous No.17406139]

>>17404877
On the contrary, this makes you a native polyglot. Be proud.

[Anonymous No.17406206]

>>17406082
It's a matter of fluency and being able to come upwith a complex sentence without second guessing it's grammar all the time. He probably can get well enough to write well I guess, though the rigidity won't go unless he has talent.

[Anonymous No.17406233]

>>17406206
There is no such thing as talent when it comes to fluency, more like deliberate practice. Talent helps out but it is more about continuously practicing it. You can't be a slacker and expect that things will come out naturally.

[Anonymous No.17406274]

>he's a stick above me
FYI this idiom does not exist in English.

[Anonymous No.17406303]

>>17406274
Anon is such a great writer he's just coining new idioms left and right. Madlad has no brakes.

[Anonymous No.17406384]

>>17406233
I meant talent as in writing talent.

[Anonymous No.17406392]

>>17406303
Truly the new McCarthy

[Anonymous No.17406755]

>>17404662
>>17404877
OP you should become the modern Conrad.

[Anonymous No.17406792]

>>17406274
it's okay, I can lip around such offenses.

[Anonymous No.17407727]

>>17404662
dont worry. some native speakers probably sound less literate than you. take a baby for example. the baby may be native, but does he know more than you? no :)

[Anonymous No.17407754]

i am an esl and as i can read books in english it requires much more focus during the reading and from time to time i have to check the dictionary which makes the whole process of reading less enjoyable

when i am reading books in my native language (translations) its much more
comfortable

does anybody here have the same thoughts?

[Anonymous No.17407821]

>>17407754
for me it's the other way around, i know way more archaic english words than in my native tounge

[Anonymous No.17408109]

>>17404662
GIT GUD

[Anonymous No.17408129]

>>17408109
Go back

[Anonymous No.17408137]

>>17404662
>Nabokov
>Joseph Conrad
You don't need to be a native speaker to write beautiful prose. Keep trying anon.

[Anonymous No.17409077]

Just write shorter sentences.

[Anonymous No.17409084]

>>17408137
Nabokov was basically a native speaker, he started learning English in his early childhood.

[Anonymous No.17409155]

Just read and write in your own language then, you nerd

[Anonymous No.17409232]

>>17406274
Oh man, my face has paled before the masses yet again.