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>Vices are seductive therefore they must be depicted seductively
-Baudelaire (pbuh)

Was he right?

>> No.17388943

No

>> No.17388947

I don't get it. Is eating grapes a vice?

>> No.17388960

>>17388947
Grapes are a metonymy for wine, brainlet

>> No.17388970

>>17388960
Wine isn't really a vice, either. Unless you drink to excess.

>> No.17388972

>>17388908
Does that seem right, anon?

>> No.17388997

vices will always be around, no need for special effort in depicting them.
t. goethe and pretty much everyone before him

>> No.17389064

Vices are vile

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>>17388972
I'd say so. This is why he defended Flaubert during his trial for writing Madame Bovary. Both of these writers weren't advocating for vices but warning others of the dangers of it.
Hence the title of his poems, Les Fleurs du Mal, flowers of evil: vices allure people by their smell and looks. There is beauty in evil and people ought to be able to defend themselves from it. B. also said, "if someone reads my books of poems, without a moral compass, too bad for him."
t. Frog

>> No.17389269

>>17389251
Extremely based mon ami le frog

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>>17389269
de rien

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>>17389251
before the gates there sat
On either side a formidable Shape.
The one seemed woman to the waist, and fair,
But ended foul in many a scaly fold,
Voluminous and vast—a serpent armed
With mortal sting.

>> No.17389665

>>17388908
It was from out the rind of one apple tasted, that the knowledge of good and evil as two twins cleaving together leapt forth into the World. And perhaps this is that doom which Adam fell into of knowing good and evil, that is to say of knowing good by evil. As therefore the state of man now is; what wisdom can there be to choose, what continence to forbear without the knowledge of evil? He that can apprehend and consider vice with all her baits and seeming pleasures, and yet abstain, and yet distinguish, and yet prefer that which is truly better, he is the true wayfaring Christian.

>> No.17389746

>>17388908
It doesn't have to but can be to great effect. Don Giovanni is so good because Don Giovanni really seems to be tempting and girls really do fall for him and so on. Read about it in Either/Or

>> No.17390917

>>17388908
bump