/sffg/ Science Fiction and Fantasy General

[Anonymous No.17388474]

The ultimate Bakkerchad Edition.

Previous Thread: >>17375371

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>Goodreads
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[Anonymous No.17388490]

>>17388474
Bad meme

[Anonymous No.17388491]

>>17388474
>>17388454

[Anonymous No.17388502]

>>17388474

[Anonymous No.17388510]

[Anonymous No.17388518]

>>17388474
>The Sandersoy on the bottom right

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NOaSdO5H91M

[Anonymous No.17388520]

>>17388474
The meme that launched a thousand shitposts

[Anonymous No.17388572]

>>17388520
>>17388518
>>17388510
>>17388502
It's like I'm really on reddit.

[Anonymous No.17388574]

“We would vanish into our effortposts,” he said, glimpsing things some other soul had seen, “and the lurkers … they would assemble on these very steps, and weep for the beauty of their masters!”
Anon turned to the ancient Shill. “They worshipped us then … Adored the hand that whipped them.”
“As they do now,” the Shill said darkly. “As they are bred.”
“And the effortposting?” the soul that had once been Anon asked. “Has unironic discussion fled the /sffg/, my Brother?”
The Shill paused upon one of the strange, small piles of debris. He chipped his boot against the fibrous mass, expelling something that clattered down the steps at an angle before and below Anon …
The bowl of a human skull.
“Effortposting has fled the General,” the shill said.

[Anonymous No.17388593]

Not this is what I call a good thread.

[Anonymous No.17388607]

>>17388572
downvoted

[Anonymous No.17388718]

[Anonymous No.17388800]

>>17388574
Is that image really based on Ishterebinth?

I've only read The Prince of Nothing series. I'm starting the second series now.

Would you be so kind as to remind me where Kellhus met with the Nonmen in the beginning of his journey?

[Anonymous No.17388819]

Pretty good start anons. Let's wait for the BotNS-bots and the sanderfags to start shitposting...

[Anonymous No.17388833]

Worth a grok?

[Anonymous No.17388873]

>>17388474
Just started Prince of Nothing. The book's quality absolutely plummets after the great introduction, and the world seems a mad libs version of the crusades
When does it get good?

[Anonymous No.17388874]

>>17388833
I'm reading it right now, 400 pages in. I like it, but I don't find it as good as I thought it would be, the concept is really interesting but the execution, sadly, not so good.

[Anonymous No.17388890]

>>17388873
>When does it get good?
When you stop having a shit taste

[Anonymous No.17388893]

Fuck E William Brown

[Anonymous No.17388905]

>>17388833
I always loved this cover, but I was incredibly disappointed with the story itself, which is just a novel version of something lame like "Earth Girls Are Easy." In fact, it probably should have been called that.

>>17388874
I agree. The premise is great, but what he did with it is so trashy and lame. Sad, really.

[Anonymous No.17388910]

>>17388893
>Fuck E William Brown
Who is that? And while we're on it, why do you hate this person so much that you have to post this on every single thread?

[Anonymous No.17388924]

>>17388800
Kellhus met with the Nonman near an ancient Eamnoric ruin in Sobel, north of Atrithau. The Nonman was Cet'ingira.

>>17388873
>>17388874
First book is slow-ish and filters a lot of people. Series really hits its stride in Book II. It's the slog of slogs, Anons; it's not for everyone.

[Anonymous No.17388933]

>>17388890
I'll rephrase, when does the crusade copy paste end, part 2 just seems to be about the byzantine emperor

[Anonymous No.17388941]

>>17388924
>>>17388874 (You)
You quoted the wrong person there, anon. My post was about this:
>>17388833

[Anonymous No.17388946]

>>17388474
Oh no no no no no.....

[Anonymous No.17388948]

>>17388933
The entire series, books 1 to 3 are the crusade

[Anonymous No.17388969]

>>17388933
Series I is the not-Crusades. Series II is the not-War of the Ring. The fact that the books draw obvious and direct parallels to history and other literature doesn't make them less interesting imo.

[Anonymous No.17388979]

>>17388969
>doesn't make them less interesting imo.
Absolutely based.

[Anonymous No.17389012]

>>17387470
>>17387470
Sounds to me you need more experience writing so that you can eventually find your own voice.

[Anonymous No.17389015]

Fuck you Cheng Xin you are a stupid fucking bitch

[Anonymous No.17389032]

>>17388800
It’s in one of the very first chapters. It’s the first time he sees magic. Before he even meets cnaiur. Comes across two nonmen, kills one in a sword fight and the second one sends him running when he starts doing magic.

[Anonymous No.17389050]

>>17389032
>kills one in a sword fight
Never happened.

I don't know what you gain from doing this, but ok.

[Anonymous No.17389169]

>>17388924
The Nonman you mentioned is clearly insane, right?

For some reason, I got the impression that he let Kellhus live. Not sure though.

[Anonymous No.17389191]

I'm looking for a free story, that popped up in tg filename threads a while ago, since it was one of those stories that I always said that I was going to read later but now I can't find it.

The image that was filanamed was what seemed like one giant dark sphere in a barren environment. And what I barely remember the story was about is a future Earth, like really far into the future, that had post-humans and there was a war between what seemed cybernetic humans and biotech humans(although any further recomendations in this theme will be welcomed I love it), almost kinda reminded me to Orion's arm type setting.

Sorry if the details are insuficcient, but it's all I have for now.

[Anonymous No.17389194]

>>17389169
Yes and yes.
Very few Nonmen are sane.

[Anonymous No.17389219]

>>17389194
Thanks bro.

I might have misread somewhere, but I got the impression that there was only one left alive. But I never took that as something to hold on to. I am happy that I will see more in the upcoming series.

[Anonymous No.17389273]

[Anonymous No.17389321]

STFU, both sandersoys and bakkerniggers

[Anonymous No.17389385]

>>17389321
Rent free.

[Anonymous No.17389456]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jlvhVbriCfY

How is it even possible that this man cannot finish his trilogy?

[Anonymous No.17389494]

>>17389456
He couldn't focus because of Trump

[Anonymous No.17389503]

>>17389456
he was too busy with his polycule

[Anonymous No.17389517]

>>17389494
I'm not American, so please tell me this:

If I was an American Artist/Celebrity and I made absolutely no political comment from the beginning until the end of Trump's term, would I still receive a backlash/negative publicity?

[Anonymous No.17389561]

Why can't bakker and sander anons just unite to rid us of the Unholy Chinkshit?

[Anonymous No.17389592]

>>17389561
Bakker, Sander and Chinkshit form our Three Body Problem.

[Anonymous No.17389606]

>>17389592
More like our holy trinity.

[Anonymous No.17389662]

>>17386673
>imagine being such an asshurt retard you have to reply to the "meme" without actually backlinking because you're a redditard who thinks (You)'s have some sort of magical argument winning properties
Whatever makes you feel better psycho. I see you've already started with your recycled bait no one replies to as well ;^*

[Anonymous No.17389682]

>>17389517
I'm sure there would be some vocal minorities that would never forgive you for "just ignoring the fascist dictator" and implications that means you support him, but unless you were a high end name it probably wouldn't be enough to bother you.

[Anonymous No.17389689]

>YOU ARE SCHIZO
>NOOOOOO YOU ARE THE REAL SCHIZO
>COPECOPECOPECOPECOPECOPECOPECO
I thought you niggers were supposed to be smart.

[Anonymous No.17389699]

>>17389682
Twitter really was a mistake.

[Anonymous No.17389784]

>Whore after all.

[Anonymous No.17389787]

>>17389689
>smart

[Anonymous No.17389788]

>>17388946
Is this meme a joke? I'm new here and haven't read either but it sounds like a 100% virgin wrote this and Bakker sounds like the real Chad.
How can you fuck up an easy meme like this?

[Anonymous No.17389794]

>>17389788
Go easy on the sander/bakkerfags, they're all about 12 and choosing this to fight over instead of consoles.

[Anonymous No.17389812]

I'm starting to think that the schizo really broke the sandersoy.

[Anonymous No.17389819]

>>17389784
Sweet Seju....
>manhood arches turgid against breeches

[Anonymous No.17389834]

>>17389794
>Go easy on the sander/bakkerfags, they're all about 12 and choosing this to fight over instead of consoles.

[Anonymous No.17389851]

>>17389834
Stay mad bakkerfag, your shit's on the same bottom-tier level as sanderson and you know it.

[Anonymous No.17389868]

>>17389851
Joke's on you. that was my first post in the thread.

[Anonymous No.17389910]

>>17388474
>Ruling is hard. This was maybe my answer to George R. R. Martin, whom, as much as I admire him, I do quibble with. A Song of Ice and Fire had a very medieval philosophy: that if a king had sex with his sister, the realm would prosper. We look at real history and it’s not that simple. George can say that Bran the Broken could use his powers to look into the past and determine a tax policy, and he was wise and in a wheelchair. But George doesn’t ask the question: Who was Sansa's pillow friend? Did she pull on her braid? What was Bran's policy on polygamy? And what about all these prophecies? By the end of the war, there are various prophecies unfulfilled. From the House of the Undying, to Jojen's green dreams, to the Red Priests, to Patchface, to the Valonqar prophecy, to the prophecies of Quaithe, all have been unanswered. Did George forget about all the foreshadowing he alluded to? Even the baby foreshadowings in their tiny baby cradles?

[Anonymous No.17389925]

>>17389910
>>17389902
Not cool

[Anonymous No.17389927]

>>17389868
The point stands.

[Anonymous No.17389930]

It's time for me to read Wolfe. Let's say I don't want to start with Shadow of the Torturer. Where else could I start?

[Anonymous No.17389937]

>>17389925
all me

[Anonymous No.17389939]

>>17389851
>t. hasn't read Bakker

[Anonymous No.17389945]

>>17389939
I've read enough of the epic excerpts and discussion in the thread to know.

[Anonymous No.17389947]

>>17389939
Of course he hasn't read Bakker. The retard thinks and writes like a teenager.

[Anonymous No.17389951]

>>17389930
The Fifth Head of Cerberus is where I started and it worked out well

[Anonymous No.17389967]

>>17389927
>The point stands.

[Anonymous No.17389982]

>>17389967
I accept your concession.

[Anonymous No.17390010]

>>17388474
Kek

Is that the sandersoy on the bottom right?

[Anonymous No.17390043]

>>17389930
Peace might filter you, but The Knight is pretty easy

[Anonymous No.17390110]

>>17390103

[Anonymous No.17390137]

>>17388474
Does this mean Bakker and Sandaro are both trannies?

[Anonymous No.17390323]

>>17388474
Hope you don't mind OP. I made a few changes.

[Anonymous No.17390334]

Welp, /sffg/ is going to be intolerable now, isn't it? We have an unironic wojak posting memelord occupying the thread. They're like cancer. Can't get rid of them.

[Anonymous No.17390346]

>>17390334
What do you mean? You have an account on the shard, don't you?

[Anonymous No.17390420]

I made another thread that isn't just about the resident autists and their flamewar

[Anonymous No.17390424]

>>17390334
It's been fucked for years. Most of 4chan being 15-24 year olds only supports a petulant atmosphere.

[Anonymous No.17390438]

>>17390334
How about you actually discuss books instead of bitching about shiposting?

[Anonymous No.17390453]

So, which exciting upcoming books can we expect this year?

[Anonymous No.17390460]

>>17390438
>Talk about books 100% of the time.
>Make one comment about a meme spammer messing up the atmosphere.
>"HOW ABOUT YOU STOP TALKING ABOUT ME-ER-I MEAN THEM!"

[Anonymous No.17390467]

>>17390460
Oh, hi Mark.

I didn't see you there, you know, because we're on an anonymous Taiwanese video notebook.

Talk about books with me then.

[Anonymous No.17390492]

>>17390467
I made a post about Book of the New Sun just last thread. >>17388405

/sffg/ has been bothering me to read it since my first day here last year. And then when I give my little review on it, all anyone has to say is that I'm a pleb and should stop with the audiobooks.
To be fair, I didn't have much to say on it.

[Anonymous No.17390534]

>>17390492
I only read the first book in the series, so there isn't much I can discuss with you.

It was alright, aside from the wacky world he created that can be confusing at times.

[Anonymous No.17390564]

>>17390534
Fair enough. Was the world really that wacky in the first book? Didn't seem so odd to me. I mean, not when compared to other fantasy books. Vaguely medieval and old timey, with guilds and royalty and horses and shit.

[Anonymous No.17390568]

>>17390492
I feel the same way about BotNS bruh.

Just read some comfy Reynolds.

[Anonymous No.17390569]

>>17389819
phallus

[Anonymous No.17390601]

>>17390492
It entirely depends on who is around. Usually there's someone who wants to talk about it. Almost no one wants any actual discussion for, if only for the reason that discussion is nearly impossible to have here.

[Anonymous No.17390606]

>>17389784
Whoah who's that?

[Anonymous No.17390615]

>>17390606
Mommy Esmi

[Anonymous No.17390630]

>>17390568
I recognize that art. That's the guy who traces everything, and calls it "study". Well, debatably he "copies" things. But his copies are so accurate that it's as if he drew on top of the original.

>Just read some comfy Reynolds.
Alastair Reynolds? I want to make sure I'm looking up the right guy. And for the record, I don't want to read anything that is *only* aesthetic focused. I want an engrossing narrative as well. So if this Reynolds guy is just another Gene Wolfe, then I don't know if it's a good idea.

I'm about to jump into Mistborn right now though. I promised I would. Not really looking forward to it, to be honest. Sanderson is on this ice with me.

[Anonymous No.17390670]

>>17390334
you could just use the report system

[Anonymous No.17390681]

>>17390670

[Anonymous No.17390689]

>>17390670
Why? Did you report someone? If so, who?

[Anonymous No.17390721]

>hurr durr everything is so mysterious, shrouded and indeterminate
why is pringles man like this

[Anonymous No.17390748]

>>17390721
That flower part was a little bit cringe.

[Anonymous No.17390889]

>>17388474
I just started wizard knight and have no idea what in the fuck is going on. Is this intentional or am I retarded?

[Anonymous No.17390905]

>>17390346
Pretty sure you know more about that than anyone else here.

[Anonymous No.17390922]

Most sci-fi and fantasy novels is too big brained for me so I just read harem fantasy novels. Can I hang out with you guys?

[Anonymous No.17390991]

>>17390922
You've already surpassed us.

[Anonymous No.17391025]

>>17390922

[Anonymous No.17391044]

>>17390922
Go read Sin and Soil and heartgem homestead then report back to us.

[Anonymous No.17391123]

>>17390922
When I try to read any literature above urban fantasy level I get bored and quit. You're in good company.

[Anonymous No.17391221]

>>17391123
As someone who's read the gamut, there's literally nothing wrong with pop "schlock" and YA novels if you enjoy the subject matter.

[Anonymous No.17391329]

I've only read Tolkien and some Gaiman in terms of fantasy, but after seeing the constant memeing of Prince of Nothing and the blurb at least piquing my interest, is it something I can get into easily?

[Anonymous No.17391366]

>>17390721
Pringles knows that there is nothing worth than over-explaining

[Anonymous No.17391589]

>>17391329
>easily
For context, it's maybe a step or two down from Malazan as far as "spraying you with lore and politics and not giving a shit if you keep up", but if you don't mind that sort of book it's genuinely pretty good.

[Anonymous No.17391626]

I am cognizant of the fact that Anasurimbor Kellhus may be a false prophet, but I simply cannot help myself. Ever since being introduced to him in "The Darkness That Comes Before"; he has held me spellbound, seduced. So much in fact do I idolize him, that I know if I was following him to Golgotterath, I would gladly die for him. Or should I say Him? Again, I don't care if he is a madman, an anti-christ of sorts. It's just very strange of me, I realize, to be so captivated by a man such as this who not only exerts power over the characters in the world of Earwa, but the reader as well. I know some cannot stand Kellhus, but for me, I just cannot resist him, and I find myself rooting for him, no matter what so-called "atrocities" he may have committed. It's very strange. I have read a lot of fantasy, and this is genuinely the first character *who may be evil* that I have actually looked up to. His charisma, charm, leadership qualities I have actually tried to practice in real life from time to time. I have actually learned and applied his principles (or should i say Bakker's) to my everyday conduct, and even the "manipulation techniques" have actually bore good fruit. I have learned much more about human behavior, and have come to appreciate people on a whole new level. It's very strange, it's very surreal, and it's very good, as I cannot but give thanks to this wonderful character Scott has created. Kudos!

[Anonymous No.17391753]

>>17390748
Filtered

[Anonymous No.17391830]

Hello /sffg/ I am once again asking for good steampunk books.

[Anonymous No.17391854]

>>17391830
At least Bernie's supporters have their meager donations to offer. Steampunk offers nothing.

[Anonymous No.17391865]

>>17391830
The Scar by China Mievielle or however his last name is spelled

[Anonymous No.17391884]

>>17388924
>Kellhus met with the Nonman near an ancient Eamnoric ruin in Sobel
Fuck me, I read the spoiler.
Is the identity of that nonman explained further down the line? I'm currently 5 chapters in TUC and so far nothing about it.

[Anonymous No.17391922]

Lol remember when there was a monthly book club and like four faggots would read the book and the poor guy who started the club kept doing it anyway until he just gave up and no one cared any more. I wonder if he still posts here. If the guy's reading this, it's not your fault this board is made up of retards who only read things if they are memed.

[Anonymous No.17391978]

>>17391830

Just play rise of legends over and over bro.

[Anonymous No.17392009]

>>17390492
First of all, you don't post higher than average effort posts when the thread is close to the bump limit.

You are right in calling BotNS an aesthetic experience. However, those who cared about it, and were not dumb enough to lose track of the broader strokes, can piece together how he's being manipulated and for what reason (this is scattered in the first 4 books and spelled out in the fifth book).
The vignettes are not so and they symbolize different aspects of his coming of age and the state of the world and the power struggle.

[Anonymous No.17392169]

>>17388718
Based Karen poster

[Anonymous No.17392184]

>>17391922
I feel bad for only participating in those every now and then, it was a nice experience and it's a shame it is gone now.

[Anonymous No.17392197]

>>17389788
>>17389794
They're just using the meme correctly. The whole point of the meme is to put retarded shit on the Chad side and then insecure people will start thinking it's actually good because if they disagree then they're a virgin.

[Anonymous No.17392241]

Wait but why can't I just like Bakker and Sanderson?

[Anonymous No.17392246]

>>17392241
Why can't you talk about literally anything else?

[Anonymous No.17392340]

>>17392169

[Anonymous No.17392419]

>>17389032
>>17389050
probably remembering wrong, yeah he just fights one nonman, has some trouble but adapts and is beating him, but the nonman is covered in op nimil armor and there isn't many places kellhus can wound him. Nonman is wearing a cloak of faces, says he's ridden both for and against the no god, says kellhus looks like one of the faces on his cloak, then he shoots a fireball at kellhus who thought magic was a myth and kellhus runs like crazy, either getting away or the nonman letting him go, nonman laughs

[Anonymous No.17392439]

>>17392241
Sanderson is a fucking shit retard for autistic kids and trannies
I haven't read Bakker, hes probably shit too if /sffg/ likes him.

[Anonymous No.17392443]

>>17391884
the identity of that nonman is revealed towards the end of TUC, but Bakker revealed it long ago in like 2006 or something on a forumpost, something he regrets doing.

the nonman is Meketitrig aka Cetinigra, quite a famous nonman, the same one who tortures seswatha on that wall and told the mangeacca where the arc/min urokias was, and was an important member of the consult

Knowing his identity isn't hugely important imo and not a big spoiler

>>17392246
I read some really shitty kindle unlimited eric vall book, or started to anyway, if he can be pretty damn successful anyone can be, terrible prose and he has bits like

>I had to make due with what I had

[Anonymous No.17392506]

>>17388910
>Who is that? And while we're on it, why do you hate this person so much that you have to post this on every single thread?
Author of Daniel Black which is Western Isekaishit.

[Anonymous No.17392515]

>>17390323
Key

Sandersoys BTFO

[Anonymous No.17392532]

>>17392439
Sanderson is the best writer I’ve ever read.

[Anonymous No.17392535]

>>17392241
Because one knows how to write, and the other one does not.

Now guess which one is who.

[Anonymous No.17392592]

Now that the Sandersoy has been utterly defeated, what’s the future for /sffg/?

[Anonymous No.17392629]

>>17392592
Faggotry, as always

[Anonymous No.17392650]

I claim this thread in the name of the Ringdom of Pelphia.

[Anonymous No.17392660]

>>17390323
This is strangely accurate.

[Anonymous No.17392711]

>>17391922
>>17392184
It never ended. It still goes in to this day. It's just that you still aren't participating.

[Anonymous No.17392749]

>>17392592
Still here gaylord, taking notes on your progressive psychosis. You really are obsessed with me.

[Anonymous No.17392779]

>>17392009
>First of all, you don't post higher than average effort posts when the thread is close to the bump limit.
I figured that would be an issue before I posted, but whatever. I just wanted to get the post out and be done with it.

>However, those who cared about it, and were not dumb enough to lose track of the broader strokes, can piece together how he's being manipulated and for what reason
I mean, they explained a lot of it in the end. Something about some test he's supposed to pass in order to earn a new energy source for the sun. And like the probability of his success having triggered his current path which is slightly altered from what it once was.

I don't know... Aliens grooming humans? Interdimensional time hopping is involved somehow. I honestly checked out. The more I think on it, the more vague it becomes. I'm just going to say I didn't care much for the book. In the end, Gene actually suggested to reread the book to catch all clues. And I scoffed.

[Anonymous No.17392783]

>>17392749
>>17392592
Is it really that difficult to ignore authors you don't enjoy?

[Anonymous No.17392787]

>>17392783
>authors
Lol

[Anonymous No.17392815]

>>17392783
I haven't said word one about a single author in the whole thread. I'm just here for the show at this point.

[Anonymous No.17392827]

>>17392815
What’s “word one”?

[Anonymous No.17392829]

>>17392815
You could just go to r/fantasy and shit that place up instead

[Anonymous No.17392864]

>>17392829
>recommending a place that is worse than these threads will ever be.
Remove yourself tourist and take your schizophrenic friends with you.

[Anonymous No.17392887]

>>17392864
It's a shithole, so it's a perfect place for you to go on your autistic rants about Sanderson

[Anonymous No.17392895]

>>17392864
Imagine being this fucking retarded.

[Anonymous No.17392900]

>>17392829
>>17392887
it seems to be populated of half based somewhat racist chuds and half nk jesminers

[Anonymous No.17392961]

>>17389930
Scifi: The Fifth Head of Cerberus
Fantasy: The Sorcerer's House or The Knight

[Anonymous No.17392995]

>>17392829
>it's your fault the thread is like this
NO U

[Anonymous No.17393019]

I STAND
WHERE MY BROTHER STOOD

[Anonymous No.17393025]

Anasurimbor Kayutas did literally nothing?

[Anonymous No.17393054]

>>17392749
>imagine acknowledging that you’re a sandersoy

The schizo is right. This is the ultimate humiliation.
And the fact that you feel the urge to reply to every single post that has the word “sandersoy“ in it, further proves my point.

[Anonymous No.17393084]

> How could you... I'm so mad right now. How can you in good faith go into a thread and actually recommend both Elantris AND Warbreaker?
You can't. You're trolling. That's the only explanation. You set people up with bad book recommendation. Laughing to yourself as we all waste our time. Between those two books, I've wasted 50 hours of my life. I hope that makes you happy. I hope you keep a record. Count it up. 50 hours listening to this garbage on audiobook.

>Fucking hell, Warbreaker was another slog. Just like Elantris, Brandon Sanderson can't help but to explain every little detail of every plot point and character motivation.

>What the FUCK is the point in foreshadowing, if when the foreshadowed event finally arises, you're just going to explain the connection in tedious detail? It was fucking mind numbing. I'm so frustrated right now, I can't even begin to convey this feeling through text.

>I WANT to like the story. There are some cool idea. The characters are almost likeable. But Sanderson's need to explain everything steps on all of the material. Please, please, PLEASE stop explaining everything like I'm a fucking child.

>omg, omg, omg, omg, omg, omg, omg, omg.

>Guys... I'm taking one more Sanderson recommendation. That's right. I want to like his material, so I'm giving him a third chance. Either he finally clicks with me, or he strikes out. Which is it going to be. Well that depends on which book you recommend. So I suggest you recommend the best he's go. Give me the top tier Sanderson. Don't fucking hold back this time.

[Anonymous No.17393102]

>>17393054
>The schizo is right.
>my point
You're absolutely transparent and you literally can't stop thinking about me. Consider this and re-evaluate your existence.

[Anonymous No.17393122]

>>17393102
>reading comprehension

Not surprising that you like Sanderson.

[Anonymous No.17393140]

>>17393084
I have sympathy for overexplaining everything, the average person is an absolute retard who needs obvious things explained to them. I'm a fan of how erikson does it, he foreshadows/reveals/ gives information that hints at the indenity of a character/occurance etc.

Something to where only a very canny reader or perhaps a rereader will pick up on it, then does another reveal or gives more detail/a hint 50 pages later to where most people who have being paying attention will get it, then later outright states it for the total brainlets.

Even bakker does it

>“Have care, Proyas. Remember King Shikol.”

>For the Inrithi, the name “Shikol,” the Xerashi King who had condemned Inri Sejenus, was synonymous with hatred and tragic presumption. The thought that his own name might someday possess the same poison caused Proyas no small terror.

this is after in the same book we've already had

>“Is that what you think?” Achamian exclaimed. “That I’m King Shikol tempting Sejenus with worldly power like in The Tractate? Maybe he’s right, Esmi, did you ever consider that? Maybe he’s not a prophet!”

>What if Achamian were merely the test? Like old, evil Shikol in The Tractate, offering Inri Sejenus his thigh-bone sceptre, his army, his harem, everything save his crown, to stop preaching . . .

>She thought of King Shikol in The Tractate, the demented Xerashi King who’d commanded the Latter Prophet’s execution. She thought of his gilded thighbone, the instrument of judgement, which to this day remained the most potent symbol of evil in Inrithidom. Was this what Inri Sejenus had said to his nameless lover? That loss could somehow secure glory?

[Anonymous No.17393141]

>>17393122
>posted it again
You don't even see how easily you out yourself. Seriously get help.

[Anonymous No.17393148]

>>17393140
>>17393084

Where are these from?

[Anonymous No.17393154]

>>17393141
I accept your surrender.

[Anonymous No.17393165]

>>17393148
the warrior prophet, book 2 of prince of nothing

[Anonymous No.17393167]

>>17393165
I mean the comments. Good reads, Reddit, here?

[Anonymous No.17393184]

>>17393154
>if I get the last word I win
Brainworms.

[Anonymous No.17393195]

>>17393167
Some previous /sffg/ thread on Sunday 17.1.2021

[Anonymous No.17393218]

>>17393140
Congratulations. You found a handful of instances while nitpicking through those books. I don’t see a problem with this, at all.

[Anonymous No.17393238]

>>17393195
Seriously, seek help.

[Anonymous No.17393258]

>>17393238
>>/lit/thread/S17295900
Post Number 17308586
Oh btw hello Karen

[Anonymous No.17393259]

>>17393218
> I don’t see a problem with this, at all.

Precisely my point, it's not ideal but it detracts little from the book while making it much more enjoyable for a significant portion of the readership.

That's hardly the only example from bakker though.

[Anonymous No.17393268]

>>17393148
>>17393258

[Anonymous No.17393277]

>>17393259
Sanderson can’t do this though.

[Anonymous No.17393310]

>>17393167
So basically this one illiterate autist who is known as “Karen” doesn’t read books, only listens to them.

This person adamantly wanted Sanderson recommendations. So people gave him recommendations. He did not like the way Sanderson explains things explicitly. He then proceeded to bash those who recommended him those books even though Sanderson’ writing style is same in all books.

This same Karen also didnt like Bakker because he didn’t like the audiobook reader’s voice. This same person also claimed to like Wheel of Time very much.

[Anonymous No.17393324]

I'm 1/3 in. Where's SEX?!

[Anonymous No.17393333]

>>17393324
Shouldn’t take too long.

[Anonymous No.17393337]

>>17393324
Keep reading brainlet coomer.

[Anonymous No.17393340]

>>17393324
there was a homosexual rape in the prologue bro, but >>17393333 what he said

[Anonymous No.17393352]

>>17393340
Shit, I read the three books in what, a little over a week’s time?

There was so much fucking that I don’t even recall who fucked who in which book.

[Anonymous No.17393367]

>>17392241
That would be a paradox.

[Anonymous No.17393371]

>>17393352
>>17393324
Eventually everyone will fuck a lot of people. A lot of people will get raped. Hell, Cnaiur will even fuck a hole in the ground.

[Anonymous No.17393384]

>>17392241
You read Bakker.
You read Sanderson ironically so you can see how shit mainstream character driven story fantasy is.

[Anonymous No.17393402]

>>17390453
Someone?

[Anonymous No.17393437]

>>17392241
How is that even possible?

[Anonymous No.17393455]

Any space opera that isn't schlock?

[Anonymous No.17393471]

>On the worst nights he hugged himself in the blackness of his tent, screaming and sobbing. He beat the earth with his fists, stabbed holes with his knife, the fucked them. He cursed the world. He cursed the heavens. He cursed Anasurimbor Moenghus and his monstrous son.

[Anonymous No.17393472]

>>17390453
>>17393402

Terra Ignota 4
Revelation Space sequel
The Fall of Babel (Senlin Ascends 4)

>>17393455
Alastair "Big Al" Reynolds

[Anonymous No.17393694]

>>17390630
Mistborn is fine, I thought the second trilogy was better. The first had some boring parts. Legion is probably the best entry to Sanderson.

Reynold is nothing like Gene Wolfe. I loved his first novel Revelation Space. It is so full of new and cool ideas, and it has nice twists right up till the end. It's pure nerdgasm Sci-Fi.

[Anonymous No.17393700]

>>17393694
>Mistborn is fine
Are we trolling Karen again?

[Anonymous No.17393763]

Is there any modern fantasy that isn't a feminist circlejerk? A young Mary Sue that can do anything a man can do? I don't mind old school stuff. Like women being powerful by seducing powerful men.

[Anonymous No.17393782]

>>17393763
liveship books

[Anonymous No.17393792]

>>17393763
Bakker is pretty modern

[Anonymous No.17393801]

>>17393792
This

[Anonymous No.17393834]

>>17393763
That book is literally toilet literature, and by that I mean that I use its pages top wipe my asshole with.

[Anonymous No.17393852]

>>17393792
He's equally terrible but for different reasons

[Anonymous No.17393856]

>>17393852
Like what?

[Anonymous No.17393886]

>>17393763
>tfw writing a sci-fi with mostly alien characters
>planet is quite radioactive and has a high background mutation rate
>their species is single-sexed with effectively 3 "gender/sex" forms, one of which is a sterile carrier form
>that form is most analogous to women outwardly, and is also most biased towards being physically large and having higher intellect (due to a longer growth cycle allowing more efficient processing of nutrients)
>one other form is pretty much the exact inverse, a rapidly maturing "male" form that can only produce more like it, is quite weak and stupid, and is viewed as defective and thus usually culled or just allowed to die
>majority of population are regular "men" with effectively XY genetics. Smaller and supposedly dumber than the carriers but larger and smarter than the runts with a regular maturation cycle
>Society centers mainly around "women" and thus the majority of characters who have social status of any kind or non-menial jobs are "women"
I honestly did not start out wanting to write this as some feminist circlejerk fantasy but I am so fucking paranoid that that's all people will see. I actually did my best to think out how their societies would function like this and come up with both social and biological reasons for why they're like this. Later on when human history is talked about it's revealed that future genetically enhanced humans pretty much did away with women entirely due to a combination of constant warfare and artificial incubation/cloning being widespread. They only started breeding women again once they weren't able to maintain birthing machines anymore from crumbling infrastructure. I hate modern politics.

[Anonymous No.17393901]

>>17393886
sounds like fetish shit

[Anonymous No.17393906]

>>17393856
Like doing nothing but trying to induce dread and horror in the reader, but failing at that because he doesn't know how to make things stand out in relief by contrast? Bakker ensure that anything which would interrupt the droning is quickly done away with. This would not be a problem in a short story. It is a death sentence over thousands of pages of substandard prose. Dreariness and endless misery is a narcissistic YA worldview. Bakker and Maas are colleagues

[Anonymous No.17393915]

>>17393906
Did you even read Bakker?

[Anonymous No.17393921]

>>17393915
given that he said substandard prose I'm gonna guess not

[Anonymous No.17393922]

>>17393906
So much text for this shitty bait?

[Anonymous No.17393924]

>>17393901
This is exactly the reaction I don't want. It's not fetish shit, it's a logical biological outcome for their environment. Sexual reproduction was never necessary for them because they could achieve genetic diversity simply by having a lot of redundant genes and allowing mutation to occur. The other forms (non-"male") just came to be as a result of an evolutionary advancement to replace eggs with live birth or rather live larval implantation.

[Anonymous No.17393941]

>>17393906
Isn’t that Sanderson though? Without the horror part, or course.

[Anonymous No.17393964]

>>17393906
I’m really sorry that you got filtered by Bakker.

[Anonymous No.17393968]

>>17393915
I read about as much as I can stomach

>>17393921
His prose is garbage. Full of nonsensical and ugly sounding names. For all his pretenses, his dialogue is still lifeless and completely divorced from any of this things he is trying to evoke. His descriptions have no life and are full of things that only sound like they are describing anything, but are quickly revealed to be empty and nonsensical upon any though. This is kind of trash you encounter.

>His appearance was stretched across the eons
>His modulated the intercomplexity of his mien

Just total trash.

[Anonymous No.17393970]

>>17393924
What keeps their immune system from killing every mutated organ as if it were cancer cells?

Or do their immune systems not actually fight mutations and cancer is their natural death?

[Anonymous No.17393984]

>>17393924
I'm just saying how it appears, and I'm no scientist but I thought in the vast majority of mammals the male is bigger and stronger, for various reasons like the female being less capable of defending herself while pregnant and getting food etc.

>Later on when human history is talked about it's revealed that future genetically enhanced humans pretty much did away with women entirely due to a combination of constant warfare and artificial incubation/cloning being widespread.

that doesn't seem realistic either, most men are heterosexual and would want women around, for reasons more than just sexual.

Idk I think based on what you've written, and keeping in mind I haven't read your story, it would appear that you have decided to write certain events/reality and then justify why rather than the other way around, which is fine but people are going to question why you wrote what you did

[Anonymous No.17394027]

>>17393970
>What keeps their immune system from killing every mutated organ as if it were cancer cells?
Mainly that it's shit. The environment they're in is hugely hostile to single-celled life though so infections and the like aren't as common as they are on earth making it less necessary to have a strong immune system.
>Or do their immune systems not actually fight mutations and cancer is their natural death?
This also, but it takes much more genetic damage for them to get cancer because they have many MANY more redundant genes than most life on earth. This isn't just genetic junk I'm talking about, I mean that they have the same genes coding for the same proteins etc. many many many times over and over again in their DNA, so damage causing mutation usually isn't catastrophic. When they die naturally it's often just the result of a slow breakdown in an organ from accumulated mutation. Cancer as we know it can happen but it's fairly rare.
>>17393984
Well these aren't really mammals either. The reason the carrier is large and strong comes down to a few things
>they need to be large because they're going to have little larva sucking nutrients from them
>they mature slowly, so their growth phase is longer and thus they have a better chance of maximizing their food intake during it
>they need to be able to protect themselves/larva from predators
The inverse is true for the runts. They really are pretty much genetic chaff. The reason they're so small is because they mature so fast that they rarely ever have the chance to provide their bodies with enough food to get their brain working properly and grow bones to a good size.
>most men are heterosexual
Not men who were born and bred for warfare. The human history part is a whole other long explanation but what they call "human" really only superficially resembles us today. They're post-human.
>it would appear that you have decided to write certain events/reality and then justify why rather than the other way around
Not really, it was more like
>what if posthumans
>what if radioactive planet
>what if weird biology from radioactive planet
>hmm, what are the implications of this?
I can see how it could look that way though.

[Anonymous No.17394031]

>>17393968
the names are unusual, I don't see much point in arguging with you about the other stuff you've said though because you will just say it is cherrypicking. His prose can be odd and arcane, especially in the second series where it gets very psychadelic. His dialogue is good.

His use of italics is a better criticism, but that's subjective and even though he sometimes overdoes it, it can often be pretty effective. Sounds like you got filtered honestly, maybe it just isn't for you

[Anonymous No.17394036]

>>17393968
>I read about as much as I can stomach
You gave up already? How many pages were you even at when you stopped? One hundred and something?

> His prose is garbage.
Wrong.
>Full of nonsensical and ugly sounding names.
Is that it our are you incapable of reading/memorising them?
> For all his pretenses, his dialogue is still lifeless and completely divorced from any of this things he is trying to evoke.
Here you are basically admitting that you dropped the book right at the beginning. During the Kellhus chapters.
> His descriptions have no life
Quite the opposite.

In the rest of your post you’re basically resorting to trashing someone’s work because of your lack of lexicon and imagination.

[Anonymous No.17394046]

>>17394027
and what's the advantage of the runts, evolutionarily speaking?

1 man can impregnate 100 women easily, there's no need for large numbers or any numbers of weak and useless men when the 3rd for of relatively normal men would do just fine, and if they evolved that way the normal men would easily outcompete the runts and kill them or not allow them to breed.

So it makes absolutely no sense if they evolved that way, if they were created or modified themselves to be that way then the question is still what's the point.

[Anonymous No.17394076]

>>17393984
Oh, also, depending on the definition of "female" the aliens who appear outwardly male could be that. They're the actual reproducers, they create the young.
>>17394046
>and what's the advantage of the runts, evolutionarily speaking
There isn't one, but there is an advantage to carriers and runts are the result of that. Before that adaptation, there were neither. After it they had, let's say, 2 variants of a gene. We'll call them X and Y for simplicity.
>XX = carrier
>XY = normal
>YY = runt
XY gives you the normal form, the basic level of metabolism, intelligence, etc. An extra X slows down the metabolism and causes certain parts to develop differently. An extra Y does the reverse.
>but real biology doesn't work like that
Yeah and this isn't explained like this in the book at all because they aren't very technologically advanced and I'm not egotistical enough to think I know enough about genetics to lecture the reader on it. In reality it would likely have to be chromosomes, not genes, and there's be a mess resulting from it.
>1 man can impregnate 100 women easily
See the "men" here are egg-carriers by our standards, they just self fertilize or rather produce diploid eggs by default. That standard doesn't apply.
>what's the point
I mean metaphorically the point is that nature is a cruel bitch.

[Anonymous No.17394088]

>>17393968
Just admit that you’re an ESL. Otherwise your rant is extremely embarrassing.

[Anonymous No.17394105]

>>17394046
As well, the runts typically can't form successful genetic lines because of their inherent disadvantages, so in a natural environment they die out very quickly. It's only once their species attains civilization that they turn into an issue.

[Anonymous No.17394127]

>>17393906
>Like doing nothing but trying to induce dread and horror in the reader
t.never-read-Bakker

[Anonymous No.17394191]

>>17394127
IF ONLY TRIAMIS HAD MADE THESE WALLS OF BREAD

[Anonymous No.17394258]

For all these misconceptions that Bakker is only attempting to create horror and violence, I can honestly say that I’ve seldom seen other authors in the genre writing heartwarming moments as genuine and beautifully painted as Bakker does.

[Anonymous No.17394267]

>Siöl ... home.

[Anonymous No.17394277]

>>17390606
I want to imagine Mimara is THAT hot

[Anonymous No.17394296]

>>17388474
best sci-fi audio book?

[Anonymous No.17394317]

>>17394267
>Or at least it was, before the inchoroi fucked everything up.

[Anonymous No.17394390]

Does Scott browse these generals? I’d bet money on it. Hi Scott, hope you’re well buddy. How’s the barn restoration coming along?

[Anonymous No.17394592]

>>17394390
Who's Scott?

[Anonymous No.17394646]

>>17394390
The arthritis is really killing me man.

[Anonymous No.17394766]

Why is Sanderson so hated?

[Anonymous No.17394782]

>>17388474
Anons...

What is your opinion about Sci-fi being a subgenre of Fantasy or vice versa? Are they equivalent perhaps?

I am hearing this a lot recently.

[Anonymous No.17394813]

>>17393906
>he doesn't know how to make things stand out in relief by contrast
Huh? What contrasts? A comedic relief? A pace change? Why should a contrast be required? And what makes you think there aren't? Kellhus' PoVs are vastly different to Achamians, to Esmenet's, to Xerius, etc. It's all a harmony on the same tone, though, the same dread tone, but there are slight differences, different motifs. There are whole sections of minutiae followed by long dialogue-less exposition.
>that anything which would interrupt the droning is quickly done away with
Better watch anime, bro. Those summer camp and school festival specials probably will be your kind of shit.
>Dreariness and endless misery is a narcissistic YA worldview
Thought process:
>emos were teenagers
>zoomers are depressive and suicidal
>pessimism is exclusive to young people
Frankly embarrassing argument that exposes you for how uncultured and poorly read you truly are.

Not that I'm defending Bakker. I'm not a huge fan of his writing. Sometimes it's a bit overwrought but you just sound like a huge pleb who needs hand holding and, from the couple fake examples you posted, you can only parse explicitly concrete descriptions. Anything remotely abstract seems to trigger you. Avoid poetry or philosophy or you'll get filtered.

[Anonymous No.17394876]

>>17394766
>Why is Sanderson so hated?
He's not really hated. He just writes bad prose, and there's that one guy who defends him here like his life depends on it.

[Anonymous No.17395001]

>>17394782
I think the idea of over-classification is retarded and has done more harm to “””speculative fiction””” as a whole than anything else.

[Anonymous No.17395036]

>>17395001
You think it is just better to have no hard lines of genre and do whatever mix of magic and science (or purely one) rather than try and put everything in a neat box?

[Anonymous No.17395040]

>>17388910
He's trying to pull a Rothfuss, GURM, Lynch on his readers, and not release shit.
He is bleeding his paypiggies behind a paywall for one single chapter a month for 5 bux.

[Anonymous No.17395107]

>>17395036
Yes. That’s what they did for decades and it lead to far more creative stories. The delineation of genres only puts more limits on people that feel they can’t mix or feel they need to just check trope boxes to make sure their story fits in the genre.

[Anonymous No.17395113]

>>17395001
>>17395036
only american so called 'leftists' need to label everything. let the rest of the world carry on with their lives and judge things individually by their merits.

[Anonymous No.17395148]

>>17393471
Did he lubricate, at least?

[Anonymous No.17395190]

I only have 2 books of Malazan left and it's going to be tough to fill the void with another epic series, any suggestions?

I've read:
Dark Tower
Sword of Truth
Dune
Death Gate
Warded Man
Wheel of Time
Harry Potter
The Culture

[Anonymous No.17395194]

>>17395190
Bakker

[Anonymous No.17395202]

>>17395190
You finished Sword of Truth, Wheel of Time, and now almost Malazan? Just google big series, you can clearly read any tripe.

[Anonymous No.17395205]

>>17395190
How can you people suffer the Wheel of Time?

[Anonymous No.17395217]

>>17395205
I know what parts you mean and I speed skimmed them

[Anonymous No.17395224]

>>17395202
>You finished Sword of Truth, Wheel of Time, and now almost Malazan? Just google big series, you can clearly read any tripe.

Do you have a suggestion?

[Anonymous No.17395234]

>>17395224
The Stormlight Archive, if you're into anime.

[Anonymous No.17395322]

>>17395148
he wasn't circumcised

[Anonymous No.17395330]

>>17395190
Powder mage
Second apocalypse

[Anonymous No.17395342]

>>17393471
>Weeper! Faggot weeper!

[Anonymous No.17395360]

>>17395322
>uncutfags can fuck the cold, dry earth without lube
Truly I have been jewed.

[Anonymous No.17395371]

>>17395190
If you made it through that much of Malazan, you’re man enough to handle the Second Apocalypse.

[Anonymous No.17395477]

>>17395371
I found malazan to be super overhyped regarding how dark it was

[Anonymous No.17395487]

>>17395360
unironically yes, I imagine gnauir more like, ground against it though, pushing into and against the earth

[Anonymous No.17395491]

To start with, where is it written that you have to tell stories of nobility and hope? For that matter, what is nobility? Beating seven shades of shit out of a horde of opponents on the battlefield (with all the actual blood and screams and pleading tastefully edited out) and then putting on a crown? Is that noble? Blowing up an entire planet-sized space station of people who happen to have chosen - or more likely have just ended up stuck on - the opposing side to you in a galactic war? Butchering a huge intelligent reptile who was, until you disturbed it, dozing rather peacefully in a hole in the ground and not bothering anyone? What kind of hope is it, exactly, that we’re selling here? The hope that we can slaughter them before they can slaughter us? The hope that our brand of faith or politics can kick the living shit out of anybody else’s? The hope that I’m a bigger, tougher motherfucker with a blade or a spell than anyone else in this neck of the woods?

[Anonymous No.17395503]

http://ofblog.blogspot.com/2006/04/hello-scott-this-was-probably-asked.html

old bakkaro interview

[Anonymous No.17395511]

You guys memed me into this. Hope it’s worth it.

[Anonymous No.17395516]

>>17395503
>Unfortunately, they cannot change their genitalia at will, much to the relief of clinics worldwide

what did he mean by this?

[Anonymous No.17395519]

>>17395511
Sweet Seju.....

[Anonymous No.17395527]

>>17395511
>No time stamp.
A whore after all.

[Anonymous No.17395551]

>>17395511
MIIIIICH MIIIIICH

[Anonymous No.17395579]

>>17395511
slut

[Anonymous No.17395586]

>>17395511
tits or gtfo means TIMESTAMP you massive larpfag. go back to jerking your 1 inch wonder somewhere else.

[Anonymous No.17395595]

>>17395511
Post cock.

[Anonymous No.17395607]

>>17395190
Even the other Malazan books? And the additional Malazan Empire books? Anyways here's some series, each with their own positives and negatives:
Revelation space
The Fractured Europe Sequence
Black Company
Discworld
the Dagger and the Coin (though I don't recall any daggers in that one)
Thursday Next

[Anonymous No.17395637]

>>17395511
wanna start a reading club?

[Anonymous No.17395650]

>>17395511
S U M N A
U
M
N
A

[Anonymous No.17395756]

>>17392592
Zelazny chadhood

[Anonymous No.17395813]

>>17395511
This triggers the Sandersoy.

[Anonymous No.17395830]

>build a laser cannon
>the motherfucker starts teleporting

aaaaAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHH

[Anonymous No.17395842]

Bakkerchads, get in here.

[Anonymous No.17395846]

>>17395756
please don't, I like Zelazny. I can't take retardo posts about stuff I like.

[Anonymous No.17395853]

>>17395830
it almost worked, Kellhus's shields broke and presumably if they were slightly weaker he would have been killed

was kinda funny how easily kellhus beat aurang/aurax though, considering everyone was expecting them to be some kind of uber powerful final bosses

[Anonymous No.17395855]

>>17395586
>>17395527

[Anonymous No.17395860]

>>17395842
le "you can't know nuffin man"

[Anonymous No.17395876]

>>17395853
isn't aurax still alive?

iirc he was just sobbing in a corner when kellhus found him

[Anonymous No.17395882]

>>17395855

[Anonymous No.17395914]

>>17395855
>that light yellow tinge on the pad
AAAAGHHH I'M GONNA COOM

[Anonymous No.17395918]

>>17395855
>>17395511
It's actually true. Look at the book marks.

[Anonymous No.17395945]

>>17395876
yeah the dunsult mind broke him (I think that's confirmed but either way it's likely)

[Anonymous No.17395956]

>>17395855
>>17395511
TRUTH SHINES

[Anonymous No.17395982]

>>17395842
>The Holy Self-Insert

[Anonymous No.17396055]

>>17395982
If you've listened to interviews and stuff it's clear he doesn't identify as kellhus whatsoever, though he kind of looks like him

[Anonymous No.17396059]

>>17395855
my prize!

Let us know how you feel about serwe and esmenet

[Anonymous No.17396121]

>no one is calling the boobs and pantsu liner a tranny
I guess you guys haven't learned your lesson from that skinspy trap, huh?

[Anonymous No.17396136]

>>17396121
>Implying anyone here cares.

[Anonymous No.17396194]

>>17396121
they are frenzied by the meat

they will couple with anything at this point, even the dead

[Anonymous No.17396210]

I haven't read anything as good as Nine Prince in Amber in years

[Anonymous No.17396218]

>>17389689
This general is basically dead now for actual SFF discussion, bakkerfags killed it. A lot of us already found a new place, not advertising it here so the autists can't follow.

[Anonymous No.17396226]

>>17396136
See;
>>17395595

[Anonymous No.17396230]

>>17389939
People have posted enough excerpts of him in these threads, and if this is supposed to be his most impressive stuff then yeah he is complete trash no better than sanderson.

[Anonymous No.17396239]

>>17395855
>>that light yellow tinge on the pad
pseud

[Anonymous No.17396240]

>>17396218
>A lot of us already found a new place, not advertising it here so the autists can't follow.
that's a labyrinthine way of saying you scampered off back to the subreddit you came from

[Anonymous No.17396246]

>>17390334
Go here 4chan.org/feedback and tell them what's going on. Reporting individual posts just puts them in the report queue which is mostly handled by jannies, it's unlikely a mod will visit a slow board like /lit/. If they get multiple feedback submissions about the shitposters here we might get a moderator to step in, I've had it work on other boards.

[Anonymous No.17396247]

>>17396218
The general has been ruined for years and you discord normalfags are part of the problem.

[Anonymous No.17396266]

>>17396247
I don't use discord. I just went back to where I used to discuss literature before 4chan existed.

[Anonymous No.17396284]

>>17396210
I haven't read a non-Wolfe book since 2018

[Anonymous No.17396297]

>>17396246
why would that be necessary?

[Anonymous No.17396299]

>>17396218
>>17396230
>>17396246

Ok Sandersoy

[Anonymous No.17396307]

>>17396297
Only way to get rid of discordfags that now infest this thread. There's not even a lot of them, banning even 2 or 3 of them would probably fix the issue since I'm pretty sure it's mainly one guy doing most of the meme / wojack spam.

[Anonymous No.17396309]

Honestly this worship of Wolfe and Bakker are perfect examples of why /sffg/ is shit and 4chan as a whole is shit. The fucking misogyny. It's just...I can't. I can't do this today.

I'll come back and visit this general in a year when we can talk about actually decent authors like Jemisin without the endless trolling.

[Anonymous No.17396311]

>>17390889
Wolfe be like that

[Anonymous No.17396327]

>>17396309
>I'll come back and visit this general in a year when we can talk about actually decent authors like Jemisin without the endless trolling.
Good, you will not be missed :^)

[Anonymous No.17396344]

>>17396246
Hero.

[Anonymous No.17396347]

>>17391830
And only because steampunk is not focused on at all

[Anonymous No.17396348]

>>17396246
>relying on newfag mods to cull newfaggotry

[Anonymous No.17396368]

>>17393310
Is this the same guy who can't get into BotNS because he's listening to it on audiobook?

[Anonymous No.17396376]

>>17396246
>>17396307
Imagine being this pathetic.

I would honestly feel sorry for myself if I was like you. No one's forcing you to stay here you shitter. Didn't you say you had a new place to talk about shit books? How about you fuck off there then.

[Anonymous No.17396386]

>>17396266
>I don't use discord. I just went back to where I used to discuss literature before 4chan existed.
>implying you haven't been here for less than an year

[Anonymous No.17396388]

>>17393140
>I'm a fan of how erikson does it
Erikson is definitely a master at foreshadowing and weaving in hints of a bigger picture

[Anonymous No.17396393]

>>17396230
So you're admitting you've never read him? Sorry, but your opinion is invalid in that case.

[Anonymous No.17396397]

>>17396309
What is /lits opinion on NK Jemisin. Usually mediocre novels are promoted because of diversity. But the impression I get is that Jemisins work is dogshit. Not a 7/10 that SJW's pretend is an 11/10 master piece, but unreadable trash.

[Anonymous No.17396437]

I got Gardens of the Moon as a present, can I read this first or do I have to read something else for Malazan

[Anonymous No.17396441]

>>17396437
It's the first book (not the first chronologically, but that doesn't matter in the beginning). You can read the books in a different order, but I wouldn't do that if I were you.

[Anonymous No.17396468]

>>17396437
Definitely start there. I'm sure you've been warned but it's a headfirst dive into a new world with very little hand-holding by Erikson

[Anonymous No.17396475]

Since when are we unironically discussing some 17 yo edgelord-tier fantashit?

[Anonymous No.17396482]

>>17393700
Probably so.
>"nerdgasm"
>tumblr nose image
>Promising Mistborn gets better, so as to entice me to keep wasting my time for 6 books instead of 3.
It's a bit obvious this time though. I'm not going to fall for it. If the first part of Mistborn doesn't hold up, then I'm just going to drop Sanderson for good.
I actually haven't started it yet, as I was too tired to give it my full attention. I'm really going to try with this one.

[Anonymous No.17396497]

>>17396121
A whore is a whore is a whore. I don't see what its genitalia has to do with hating the fact that its using its body to milk attention on a book board.

[Anonymous No.17396550]

Pirate books please. Fantasy is preferred, but I don't mind more grounded stuff either.

[Anonymous No.17396561]

>>17396482
Why are you forcing yourself to read it though?

It's more of the same. There's nothing inherently bad about it. I read it when I was a teenager.
It's just mediocre vanilla YA fantasy for a female audience. It's filled with clichés.

[Anonymous No.17396579]

>>17396437
>>17396468
I don't understand why people say that the first half of that book was bad. Sure, GotM was probably the worst book he wrote, but I found the first half as entertaining as the second. Hairlock was my favorite character, by far.

[Anonymous No.17396595]

>>17396550
Check OP.

[Anonymous No.17396609]

>>17395855
Is that clean?

[Anonymous No.17396620]

>>17396595
Oh, sorry. Wouldn't want to accidentally use up posts that could be better spent talking about Sanderson some more.

[Anonymous No.17396622]

>>17396589

>>17396589

>>17396589

New bread.

[Anonymous No.17396626]

>>17396579
Bad? I never said it was bad. You just can't go in expecting things to be explained immediately after they're brought up like they are in many other popular fantasy works. Nor can you expect everything to follow the usual Tolkein tropes.

[Anonymous No.17396633]

>>17396620
I don't know of any pirate books. I was just trying to be nice.

[Anonymous No.17396648]

>>17396482
Jesus Christ you're tedious.

[Anonymous No.17396652]

>>17396626
>I never said it was bad.
I know you didn't. But there seems to be a general consensus around that. Even the author acknowledges it.

>Nor can you expect everything to follow the usual Tolkein tropes.
And that's a good thing.

[Anonymous No.17396685]

>>17396652
It's not the best way to start the first book in a series and I'm sure it has kept a lot of people from reading further and possibly really enjoying the series but honestly I loved it. I wish I could recapture the feeling of wonder I got when I first read Gardens and how new and alien the world felt.

[Anonymous No.17396702]

>>17396633
>i was just trying to be nice
Sorry for dabbing on you so hard. There doesn't seem to be a boat-themed chart, so far as I can see.

[Anonymous No.17396998]

>>17395511
Would you like to see my cock?

[Anonymous No.17397481]

>>17396685
Me too, anon. But I think most people don't like feeling that disoriented.

[Anonymous No.17397768]

>>17389910
> Who was Sansa's pillow friend?

this is an important question that must be answered though