PYTHAGORAS

[Anonymous No.17384707]

How did he invent western buddhism and Platonism and science from scrap?
Where did he get his ideas?

[Anonymous No.17384723]

Egypt

[Anonymous No.17384725]

>>17384707
nowhere because he didn't invent anything least of all science
platonic mystical bullshit was the greatest obstacle against science in the west.

[Anonymous No.17384727]

>>17384725
I'm so glad an alexandrine mob tortured Hypatia to death, theslut deserved it like all neoplatonics

[Anonymous No.17384750]

>>17384727
>t. christcuck

[Anonymous No.17384756]

>>17384723
How did reincarnation enter Egypt's thought?

[Anonymous No.17384760]

>>17384707
Everything is numbers. You'll see. You'll all see.

[Anonymous No.17384770]

>>17384760
So he left the matrix?

[Anonymous No.17384812]

>Bless us, divine number, thou who generated gods and men! O holy, holy Tetractys, thou that containest the root and source of the eternally flowing creation! For the divine number begins with the profound, pure unity until it comes to the holy four; then it begets the mother of all, the all-comprising, all-bounding, the first-born, the never-swerving, the never-tiring holy ten, the keyholder of all.
Was it autism?

[Anonymous No.17384857]

>>17384723
this, he was initiated into the egyptian, chaldean and babylonian mysteries (a lot of his stuff is from egypt though)

[Anonymous No.17384868]

>>17384857
>babylonian mysteries
Any source on these? I only know about egyptian/pseudo egyptian greek ones

[Anonymous No.17384898]

>>17384756
Reincarnation was actually from Persia, and was based on the immortality of the soul. From there on, you get the soul transmigrating from one body to another, which Plato took over.

Pythagorianism is fascinating by the way. Imagine where civilization could have been if it had been the dominant religion of the west. Instead we got Christianity, or ancient Qanon. Jesus predicted this and trust the plan. How fucking depressing

[Anonymous No.17384919]

>>17384868
After the invasion of Samos by the Persians, he was driven into exile in Babylon, where he apparently became interested in the magi, the Zoroastrian astronomers. Zoroastrianism believes that Ahura Mazda created the universe as an orderly place, ad we can study this order, or asha, hence their interest in math.

By the way, this is from Kevin Rushby’s Paradise

[Anonymous No.17384920]

>>17384725
Your view of history is flawed if you believe being an obstacle to something is a bad thing. Obstacles provoke thought and action, they are what make change possible, you should affirm all tragedies and weird things of both past and present, so you can struggle for a vision of the future with the passion of an artist.

[Anonymous No.17384932]

>>17384920
Leave him alone, christcucks have it hard enough

[Anonymous No.17384936]

>Pythagoras taught that the First Principle of Being was neither perceptible nor sensible, that it was invisible and uncreated and could be apprehended only by the mind.

>In the centre [of the structure of the universe] the Pythagoreans place fire and call it Hestia or Monad. [...] As for the earth, the Pythagoreans do not believe that it sits motionless, nor that it exists int he centre of the revolution of the rest of the world. Instead, they maintain that the earth revolves around this central fire and is not included among the most impressive or important parts of the cosmos.

Bros... Imagine what wisdom could've come down to us if Pythagoras didn't forbid his teachings from being written down

[Anonymous No.17384938]

>>17384898
>>17384919
Holy based

[Anonymous No.17384947]

>>17384920
yeah that's why India and China developed the scientific method and colonized Europe and America exactly because they didn't purge their fucking sorcerer's like Europe did therefore leaving no space and Hegelian thesis for science to develop as synthesis.
ReeeEEEEEtard.
>>17384932
We are having an amazing time knowing that the day this ridiculous parody of all we ever built (because it was us, not you, never you) finally goes down like a load of bricks, you will all turn into salt statues as we laugh and masturbate to your desperate screams.

[Anonymous No.17384954]

>>17384947
Oh definitely. Jesus predicted it, trust the plan, right christcuck?

[Anonymous No.17384964]

>>17384919
>Kevin Rushby
>writes for the Guardian
dropped

[Anonymous No.17384970]

>>17384947
>because they didn't purge their fucking sorcerer's like Europe did
Otherway round you inbred. China regularly purged all non confucians to maintain order. European esotericists started the scientific revolution.

[Anonymous No.17384992]

>>17384970
European esotericists retarded the scientific Revolution by centuries, nobody ever purged Taoist witches
you have an inbred vision of history

[Anonymous No.17385004]

>>17384954
Jesus didn't predict it it just turns out his Revelation caused us to purge superstition and mysticism in a way that nobody else did directly causing science and allowing us to Preach him all over the world.
Muslim could have done the same but got full autistic on secondary causes so after centuries of copying rome's homework they got left behind

[Anonymous No.17385012]

>>17384898
>>17384756
>>17384707
Zoroaster? So basically it comes from the source, i.e. the Eternal God, may They be magnified!

Please everyone here 1. Read the golden verses if you haven't yet and 2. Stop wasting seed, for the sake of your eternal soul.
>>17384936
Its okay brah. Its basically just monotheism with an emphasis on numbers and sound (harmony). The greatest pythagorian practice is to try to hear the harmony of the spheres.

[Anonymous No.17385038]

>>17385012
>monotheism
no

[Anonymous No.17385051]

>>17385004
>believing ancient idolatrous lies by the flavians to keep their empire running smooth and their power intact- thats still deceiving people into idolatry and ruining the world to this day
Ishygddt

[Anonymous No.17385053]

>>17384898
>Imagine where civilization could have been if it had been the dominant religion of the west.
Islam would've wiped it out.

[Anonymous No.17385055]

Why did Heracletus hate him so much?

[Anonymous No.17385057]

>>17385004
>his Revelation caused us to purge superstition and mysticism in a way that nobody else did directly causing science and allowing us to Preach him all over the world.
He attacked the ancient deep state? I bet Hilaria Clintonius was shaking in her boots! Mulier quae obseres!

[Anonymous No.17385065]

>>17385038
Yes. Deny it all you like its functionally either the same or not as good as pure monotheism as evidenced chiefly by the fact that it couldnt survive where pure monotheisms did.

[Anonymous No.17385070]

>>17385057
you are projecting so hard I have no doubt that you are yourself a blackpilled ex Qtard

[Anonymous No.17385072]

>>17385053
Islam wouldn’t have existed in the first place if Christianity had never taken off. It would’ve been the Pytagozine Empire against the Persian Empire, with Muhammed insisting that his followers should strive in the path of Harmony

[Anonymous No.17385081]

>>17385053
Theres still time, may God bring it to pass swiftly. Idolatry will be destroyed eventually even if God has to bring the wrath to each of you idol worshippers individually.

[Anonymous No.17385084]

>>17385070
No, I just have quite a bit of experience with how you people think. It’s all black and white thinking, good versus evil with an ultimate victory for good that never comes, that’s why no one takes Christianity serious anymore.

Anyway, keep on waiting for the apocalypse, I’m sure it will happen any moment now

[Anonymous No.17385087]

>>17385051
funny you would say that, usually the line is that Jewish Tricks corrupted the based Roman empire.
And yet noth the Flavians and the Jews persecuted Christians, their own instruments.
It's almost as if you are being shown fallacious narratives to keep you away from Christ.

[Anonymous No.17385092]

>>17385065
>Yes.
No. You can't just say something wrong and larp it true.
>Deny it all you like its functionally either the same or not as good as pure monotheism as evidenced chiefly by the fact that it couldnt survive where pure monotheisms did.
Monotheism is dead except among muzzie inbreds. Monism is still kicking it. Even christcuks try to appropriate it.

[Anonymous No.17385101]

>>17385087
Haha, yeah, it’s all a sekrit plot by the Roman deep state to keep you away from a cult of self loathing. Because angrily flagellating yourself will totally free you from your inceldom

[Anonymous No.17385160]

>>17385101
I notice you haven't answered to my accusation of projection.
>>17385084
oh you did except it's retarded because it's the one thing about Christianity everyone expecially you and yours take seriously

[Anonymous No.17385171]

Why do you validate a christlarper with your replies?
Should have been obvious from the moment he called Pythagoras a monotheist.
Like he cares if he's wrong.

[Anonymous No.17385201]

>>17385171
we are not the same people
sssssseeeeeethe more

[Anonymous No.17385205]

>>17385160
>I notice you haven't answered to my accusation of projection.
I just did, right here >>17385084, literally in the post you respond to, are you slightly retarded or something?

Also, this kind of armchair pathologizing is very typical for cultish ways of thinking

[Anonymous No.17385217]

>>17385201
I’m sure you’re not, you’re both still retarded though, falling for a very obvious millenia old con

[Anonymous No.17385228]

>>17384760
aristotle already disproved that the soul is not a number get fucked pythagoreastards

[Anonymous No.17385230]

>>17385205
>>17385217
>ex trumpist qanons blackpilled hard after being filtered by the deep state
your apparent selective inability to fucking read outs you as retards and subhumans, enjoy your little inconsequential lives lol

[Anonymous No.17385235]

>>17385228
Reference? I want to read it

[Anonymous No.17385242]

>>17385230
I already told you I’ve never been part of anything Qanon related whatsoever, which I explained right here >>17385084

Then again, if retards like you considered opposing points of view, you wouldn’t be a retard in the first place

[Anonymous No.17385280]

>>17385235
fucking de anima doud its in the title

[Anonymous No.17385295]

>>17385087
Its not so impossible to imagine the flavians both invented xtianity and persecuted it but let it live (or else why wasn't it utterly annihilated?-) as a way to transfer authority from the cult of ceaser to the christ cult. One idol to another. Read the texts for heaven's sake:

"You shall have no other gods before me".- Exodus 20:3; "Ye shall make you no idols nor graven image, neither rear you up a standing image, neither shall ye set up any image of stone in your land, to bow down unto it: for I am the Lord your God. Ye shall keep my sabbaths, and reverence my sanctuary." -Leviticus 26:1-2
And yet these idolatrous heractics have their cult leader saying:
"Jesus answered, 'I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.'" - John 14:6; "Jesus said to her, 'I am the resurrection and the life. Whoever believes in Me will live, even though he dies.'" - John 11:25
Here is The Glorified Reckoner's warning about false prophets: "If a prophet, or one who foretells by dreams, appears among you and announces to you a miraculous sign or wonder, and if the sign or wonder of which he has spoken takes place, and he says, 'Let us follow other gods' (gods you have not known) 'and let us worship them,' you must not listen to the words of that prophet or dreamer. The Lord your God is testing you to find out whether you love Him with all your heart and with all your soul. It is the Lord your God you must follow, and Him you must revere. Keep His commands and obey Him; serve Him and hold fast to Him. That prophet or dreamer must be put to death, because he preached rebellion against the Lord your God, who brought you out of Egypt and redeemed you from the land of slavery; he has tried to turn you from the way the Lord your God commanded you to follow. You must purge the evil from among you" - Deuteronomy 13:1-5.

>>17385092
What do you think orthodox jews, zoroastrians and the druze are?>>17385171
I'm the anon who compared it to monotheism. At least grant that its philosophically monist with theistic exotercisms.

The vitriol in this thread is so sad. Christcucks are truly the bane of the earth. They call actual monotheists hypocrites when they're the ones who are idolaters. This is the sort of lie that can keep people mentally enslaved for at least twenty generations until they're so brain dead you can just remote control them with tv and internet

[Anonymous No.17385298]

>>17385228
What is soul?

[Anonymous No.17385322]

>>17385295
Zoroastrians aren't monotheists. Ahura Mazda is just the greatest God afaiu

[Anonymous No.17385334]

>>17385295
>reading John
There's your problem, that whole book was put there as a prank

[Anonymous No.17385353]

>>17385322
And yet the Jews (or ‘ancient Israelites’ as the ‘Jesus was actually an Aryan racewarrior’-crowd puts it) had no problem with incorporating the Zoroastrian salvation history into their religion after being freed from Babylonian exile. Almost like Judaism and Zoroastrianism are highly compatible with one another

[Anonymous No.17385440]

>>17384812
this is what happens when you reject meditation

[Anonymous No.17385743]

>>17384723
>>17384756
Stop thinking everything has to enter from somewhere else. Philosophical theurgy is perfectly able to arrive at knowledge of reincarnation by itself.

[Anonymous No.17385759]

>>17385353
>they got that from those and those got that from them and they brought this from that and that was exported there and then here came that and then like it was like *hits joint* bruuuuh

[Anonymous No.17385789]

>>17384707
>Western Buddhism
everyone who uses this term unironically is a pseud

[Anonymous No.17385834]

>>17385789
Try to read it in context. I.e. pythagorean ideas strongly resemble buddhist ones without any cultural or informational ties. Not a subsect of buddhism.

[Anonymous No.17385929]

>>17385834
Not really. At all, in fact. Pyrrho is far closer to Buddhism than Pythagoras, what with Pythagoras espousing the whole "indivisible eternal discrete soul" thing and all.

[Anonymous No.17385994]

>>17385759
>a basedwojak meme
/pol/‘s not sending their best, folks

[Anonymous No.17386893]

>>17385994
>filtered
Reddit's not sending their best, folks