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/sffg/ Science Fiction and Fantasy General Anonymous Mon Jan 25 01:03:03 2021 No.17375371 [Reply] [Original]

previous >>17357377

You let the thread die edition.

No links for you, look for them yourself.

Tell me about a book written in the last 2 years that you read and enjoyed.

I enjoyed Queen of Storms by Raymond E Feist which came out last year, the second book in his firemane saga. Anybody else read it?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 25 01:06:17 2021 No.17375393 first for what a gay ass OP >tell me about look for them yourself :^)

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 25 01:14:45 2021 No.17375440 any sf books that are NOT saddening and depressing?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 25 01:16:07 2021 No.17375447 >>17375440 The Moon is a Harsh Mistress

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 25 01:20:25 2021 No.17375467 >>17375393 Sounds like you don't read much, think you'll have more fun in outer /lit/.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 25 01:23:25 2021 No.17375491 >>17375371 I liked the Licanius trilogy. Nothing spectacular, but it was good. Ending sort of sucked with how arbitrary some things were, but there were a lot of interesting ideas in it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 25 01:26:40 2021 No.17375503 >C-can you... can you forgive me, Akka?

Anonymous Mon Jan 25 01:42:35 2021 No.17375588
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>And thy carcase shall be meat unto all fowls of the air, and unto the beasts of the earth, and no man shall fray them away.
>The LORD shall smite thee with madness, and blindness, and astonishment of heart: And thou shalt grope at noonday, as the blind gropeth in darkness, and thou shalt not prosper in thy ways...
>Thou shalt betroth a wife, and another man shall lie with her...
>...Thine ass shall be violently taken away from before thy face, and shall not be restored to thee.
––Deuteronomy 28:28

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 25 02:01:12 2021 No.17375660 Ok. I'm 60 pages into The Darkness That Comes Before. When does it get good? I was promised a lot of sex at least.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 25 02:05:28 2021 No.17375674 >>17375660 Patience, Anon. You'll find the black seed that awaits you.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 25 02:23:49 2021 No.17375738 What book would you read accompanied by the sound of rain?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 25 02:25:30 2021 No.17375746 File: 901 KB, 1228x2100, 91hGlJv7bBL.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>17375738

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 25 02:28:13 2021 No.17375759 >>17375738 Dune

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 25 02:46:07 2021 No.17375823 did Martin write himself into a corner?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 25 02:49:30 2021 No.17375838 File: 42 KB, 250x292, grrm20lobster.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>17375823 >did Martin write himself into a coomer? yes

Anonymous Mon Jan 25 03:28:47 2021 No.17376033
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>>17375371
>Tell me about a book written in the last 2 years that you read and enjoyed.
I refuse to stop plugging this. It's time-loop fiction done well (except, arguably, for the ending) and is the author's debut novel.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 25 03:36:58 2021 No.17376070 >>17375660 What do you mean when does it get good? It’s good all the time.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 25 03:41:08 2021 No.17376085 Why is Sanderson so good, bros? Shallan is literally my favourite character of all time.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 25 03:43:14 2021 No.17376096 File: 3.52 MB, 498x205, b8.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>17376085

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 25 03:46:47 2021 No.17376113 >>17376096 Why? I love her witty humour and cheesy jokes. Her personalities are also deeply rooted in real an complex mental problems, that have been studied. Veil is my favourite.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 25 03:47:38 2021 No.17376116 >>17376113 No you don't.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 25 03:51:48 2021 No.17376133 >>17376116 Lol, cope more.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 25 03:53:01 2021 No.17376138 >>17376116 >STOP LIKING WHAT I DONT LIKE

Anonymous Mon Jan 25 04:04:49 2021 No.17376185
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Rate my Prince of Nothing adaptation casting
>Alexander Skårsgard as Anasûrimbor Kellhus
>Mads Mikkelsen as Cnaiur urs Skiotha
>Liam Neeson as Moënghus
>Salma Hayek as Esmenet
>Pedro Pascal as Nersei Proyas
>Henry Cavill as Ikurei Conphas
>???? as Drusas Achamian

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 25 04:11:22 2021 No.17376213 >>17376185 A fat russell crowe would be a good akka.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 25 04:12:30 2021 No.17376220 >>17376185 Why you people only thinking abou A-listers?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 25 04:13:57 2021 No.17376225 >>17376185 >Salma Hayek as Esmenet Dude, that woman is a thick MILF. Literally the opposite of Esmi.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 25 04:14:15 2021 No.17376230 File: 71 KB, 900x705, philip-seymour-hoffman-bert-mailer.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>17376185 >tfw you will never see Philip Seymour Hoffman as Akka in a big-budget PoN adaptation

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 25 04:15:53 2021 No.17376238 File: 550 KB, 620x1009, salma-hayek-then-now-ap-embed1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>17376225 Young Salma is a picture perfect Esmenet.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 25 04:44:32 2021 No.17376367 >>17376133 >>17376138 OK sandersoy

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 25 04:45:35 2021 No.17376371 >>17376230 Damn. That was fucking perfect casting too.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 25 05:29:33 2021 No.17376512 File: 817 KB, 480x702, Screenshot_2021-01-25 Children_of_Dune_Cover_Art webp (WEBP Image, 320 × 468 pixels).png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] What do you anons think of Children of Dune? Just finished and gonna hit up God Emperor soon.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 25 05:36:00 2021 No.17376535 File: 81 KB, 300x427, kai-lung.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] This is the dumbest book to ever make me feel like a genius for reading it

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 25 05:54:59 2021 No.17376605 File: 289 KB, 1600x2560, 81+IBiPVEnL.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>17375371 >Tell me about a book written in the last 2 years that you read and enjoyed. It was pretty good. Chimp did nothing wrong.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 25 06:00:22 2021 No.17376626 >>17376605 Their lives were over when they started voyage. What did they to do after mutiny.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 25 06:08:40 2021 No.17376669 >>17375371 Read riftwar saga. Started out great, went to shit. Very disappointed with the directions the characters went/developed. Don't care for the romance but even that was garbage. Series had potential and unfortunately fell very short.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 25 06:11:51 2021 No.17376677 >>17376669 >Read riftwar saga How much of it?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 25 06:20:21 2021 No.17376715 >>17376512 Dune was magical for me, read the rest of the series as well. Forget Children of Dune specifically, though the series had it's ups and downs that I enjoyed. Definitely still love Dune most of all.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 25 06:21:59 2021 No.17376720 >>17376677 Read all of it, sadly. Kept wanting it to get better, kept getting worse. There are some elements, characters n such I enjoyed but overall disappointed.

Anonymous Mon Jan 25 06:26:53 2021 No.17376740

>>17376715
Yeah it's great. Children is where it starts getting a bit more mythical and philosophical. It's good but I had issues with it.

Mostly why did Alia become the villain when she was a fast ally of Paul in the other two books? It was such a sudden change and felt weird. What was the Preacher doing exactly? He was fucking about on Salusa for no obvious reason and he wanted to leave the Golden Path but then he gets Duncan to ally with Farad'n, which I can only assume is an attempt to set up the new breeding program for Leto, then tries to convince Leto to not walk the Golden Path when they finally meet. Why did the Preacher stay with Shuloch and Jacurutu for so long even though he has been undermining Alia for a while now and they are Alia loyalists?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 25 06:35:57 2021 No.17376771 >>17376740 Alia got possessed by Baron Harkonnen. That's why she became villain.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 25 06:36:54 2021 No.17376775 >>17375447 Uhhh the ending isn't exactly happy anon...

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 25 07:00:33 2021 No.17376876 >>17376033 I enjoyed 'The 7 Death's of Evelyn Hardcastle', it wasn't amazing, but it was a fun schlocky read. The ending felt incredibly rushed which let it down. Have you read his 2nd book, 'The Devil and the Dark Water'?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 25 07:06:48 2021 No.17376901 >>17376367 Rent free :^)

Anonymous Mon Jan 25 07:10:11 2021 No.17376911

>>17376771
I know that, but after two books where she was a loyal Atreides, it struck me that Frank needed a villain quick and wanted it to be more than just the Cast Outs.

One minute I am reading the end of Dune Messiah and she and Duncan are holding hands on the Dune promising to guard the Imperium until the twins are ready. Then she is a cackling villain.

I know she was always dangerous, but it was just a jarring transformation.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 25 07:32:26 2021 No.17377013 Please tell me that Justice man brutally murders lift soon

Anonymous Mon Jan 25 07:35:22 2021 No.17377031
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Thoughts on James E Wisher?
just finished portal wars saga and wow! No degeneracy, no diversity, no unneccasary padding/porn/romance, very few women characters, mc is not a fag and actually one of better mcs out there.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 25 07:51:22 2021 No.17377096 >>17376901 U kno it bb ;^*

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 25 08:01:49 2021 No.17377158 >>17376876 The ending was a bit of a letdown. Still a good read. Was the second novel any good?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 25 08:02:51 2021 No.17377165 >>17377013 Lift has a major role in the last 5 books, she's not going anywhere.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 25 08:25:38 2021 No.17377264 >>17376512 Currently reading this, anon. I finished Dune Messiah just a few days ago and am loving the series

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 25 08:43:53 2021 No.17377341 >>17376901 You’re still here, Sandersoy?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 25 08:53:57 2021 No.17377392 >>17377341 Yes, but funnily enough, that's not me you're replying to.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 25 09:56:52 2021 No.17377739 >You forget Akka.. I am Dunyain, I am beyond good and evil was this really necessary

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 25 10:01:33 2021 No.17377769 >>17377739 >was this really necessary I am beyond necessity

Anonymous Mon Jan 25 10:10:21 2021 No.17377821

spoilers for prince of nothing and TUC

Kellhus had seen it many times, wandering the labyrinth of possibilities that was the Thousandfold Thought: The Warrior-Prophet’s assassination. The rise of Anasûrimbor Moënghus to take his place. The apocalyptic conspiracies. The counterfeit war against Golgotterath. The accumulation of premeditated disasters. The sacrifice of whole nations to the gluttony of the Sranc. The Three Seas crashing into char and ruin. The Gods baying like wolves at a silent gate.

It's ironic that he's concerned about Moenghus taking control of the three seas, marching to golgotterath to get everyone slaughtered when that's exactly what he ended up doing, it just wasn't intentional

Anonymous Mon Jan 25 10:13:05 2021 No.17377844

thousand fold thought spoilers

There was a flash behind one of the assailants, and suddenly Kellhus was there, a hand clamped about the Cishaurim’s jaw, Enshoiya’s blade jutting bright through the saffron across his breast.

Proyas stumbled to his feet, nearly teetered in a fatal fall. He caught himself, laughed through his tears. Cried out.

Then Kellhus was gone and the body dropped. The three remaining Cishaurim hung motionless, dumbstruck. Had they eyes, Proyas was certain they would have blinked. And the Warrior-Prophet was behind another, beheading him, halving his snakes, in the space of a heartbeat.

Proyas saw Kellhus jerk as the body tumbled down, realized he had caught a crossbow bolt fired from below. In a single snapping motion, he threw it like a knife at the nearest sorcerer-priest. There was a burst of incandescence rimmed by a nacre of black. The figure dropped.

OHNONONO bakkerbros how can we call Sandaro anime when WE are anime!

Anonymous Mon Jan 25 10:25:33 2021 No.17377921
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I probably need to reread Prince of Nothing, but is it ever explained? Is Fanimry the TRUE faith? Is fanim magic true, holy magic, because it doesn't leave a stain on the world? I mean all the others worship gods without knowing that the gods they worships are basically just more powerful ciphrang, and pretty much everyone is 100% damned as fuck. But the fanim, they seem to be the most in tune with the natural world. I like to believe the Three Seas made holy war against unironically the true faith of the world.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 25 10:29:45 2021 No.17377951 >>17377844 oh no its over, i kneel sanderbros

Anonymous Mon Jan 25 10:36:44 2021 No.17377980

>>17377921
No not necessarily. Chorae still turns fanim into salt pillars. They might be closer, but we don’t know enough about fanim magic for sure. We can only speculate as to why blinding themselves seems to remove the mark from their bodies. They might just be transplanting the mark to their snakes.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 25 10:43:22 2021 No.17378028 >>17377921 https://www.second-apocalypse.com/index.php?topic=2684.0 this might interest you

Anonymous Mon Jan 25 10:48:45 2021 No.17378052

>>17377980
weren't the chorae just a scientific/sorcery invention of the mangeaccea/consult though?

I thought it was more of an antimagic weapon than anything to do with god or damnation, that's just superstition.

on an unrelated note here's
https://www.second-apocalypse.com/index.php?topic=808.15a great thread with speculation about how/why Ishual was destroyed (before the release of all the books

always interesting reading people's theories, many times they are more interesting than what really happened

Anonymous Mon Jan 25 10:57:35 2021 No.17378115

>>17378028
This is honestly very interesting but I don't like how nothing is really explained in the books, or made canon. Wolfe has the right idea of what to make canon/real and what too keep ambiguous. Bakker just makes everything ambiguous for the sake of being ambiguous. Pretty sure we didn't even know gods are just powerful ciphrang and that everyone is damned until like what, book 6? Makes it looks like he came up with stuff on the spot.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 25 10:59:09 2021 No.17378126 >>17375371 I hate niggers

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 25 11:09:31 2021 No.17378205 >>17377165 I dont plan on reading any more of this shite anyway. Still disappointed she didnt get fucking lynched awesomeness and all. Sanderfag a hack

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 25 11:50:41 2021 No.17378544 File: 419 KB, 596x541, 1611593207339.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >Sanderson

Anonymous Mon Jan 25 11:59:55 2021 No.17378602
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>>17376876
I'm currently listening to the audio book of Dark Water and it's really good, I am at the half mark though, so it could turn to shit. But given the fact that the setting doesn't interest me in the least bit, it is impressive.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 25 12:24:10 2021 No.17378805 Fiction aside, does Bakker rub anyone else as a more confused Dennet? Not saying I agree or disagree witht their take on counsciousness.

Anonymous Mon Jan 25 12:33:04 2021 No.17378876

Bakker spoilers
Is Seswatha still "alive" in a manner?
Isn't his soul still present withing Mandate schoolmen or some shit?
Is that what Celmomas meant that Seswatha will be there at the worlds end?
Is he actively fucking with Akka's dreams to guide him?
Has Kell arranged some similar shenanigans considering Bakker himself said he is "dead but not done?"

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 25 12:37:21 2021 No.17378906 File: 135 KB, 612x611, 1611521214517.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Why(When) the fuck are all these threads about spoilers now? I'd much rather watch the anti-sander-schizos warring against the sandersoys.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 25 12:42:43 2021 No.17378943 File: 125 KB, 320x240, wb.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Winds of Winter or The Doors of Stone what comes out first?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 25 12:44:47 2021 No.17378966 File: 408 KB, 900x506, kim-stanley-robinson-mars-triology.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] 1500 pages of "OK Boomer: The Epic"

>>	Anonγmous Mon Jan 25 12:47:08 2021 No.17378983 File: 375 KB, 591x874, q.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] what are some sffg with bunny girls?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 25 12:47:34 2021 No.17378986 >>17378876 Kel is probably in one of the decapitants, and there would have to be a sneak into a golgotterath arc to steal him back, to parallel Seswatha stealing the heron spear in the first apocalypse.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 25 12:50:11 2021 No.17379002 >>17378943 Winds definitely. GRRM is slightly more professional

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 25 13:00:05 2021 No.17379075 >>17376512 Worst book of the series, though it looks way worse than it is because it comes after one of the best books.

Anonymous Mon Jan 25 13:01:52 2021 No.17379091

>>17376911
I believe Frank didn't plan the entire thing and mostly decided to continue the franchise after the success it had, so he needed a villain and had to improvise as he wrote. I don't believe he ever thought of Alia as an enemy while writing the first two books.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 25 13:37:44 2021 No.17379341 >>17377921 Problem with both Inrithi and Fanim is they worship capital "G" God, above the pantheon. Maybe that pisses off the gods who would've cared about humans?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 25 13:40:10 2021 No.17379357 >>17379341 Why are Eärwa's gods such pissy pricks?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 25 13:58:03 2021 No.17379480 >>17378966 I like how the first and second books call him the BESTSELLING AUTHOR OF BOOK 3.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 25 14:10:56 2021 No.17379540 >>17376185 >>17376230 this casting is spot on desu

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 25 14:15:16 2021 No.17379578 File: 137 KB, 1068x712, 1611550340993.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Recommend me something fun and light.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 25 14:16:50 2021 No.17379588 >>17379578 a balloon filled with helium

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>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 25 14:18:45 2021 No.17379603 >>17379578 Cradle

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 25 14:19:21 2021 No.17379605 File: 29 KB, 326x482, 51jzHEgKG1L._SX324_BO1,204,203,200_.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>17379578 Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency

Anonymous Mon Jan 25 14:20:27 2021 No.17379614

>>17377921
the way i see it, each faith contains some fraction of the truth.
>Inrithism
understands that the God-of-Gods has been broken into pieces (the hundred) and even smaller fragments (souls).
>Fanimry
understands that the Gods are simply oversized ciphrang and that the true God is remote and inaccessible.
>Dûnyain
understand that the true God, the Absolute, is a spider, and the extreme difficulty for human souls to reach It directly (the Absolute).
>Nonmen
understand the same as Fanim do, that the Gods are malignant fragments of the one God, and so they seek the spaces in-between, Oblivion.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 25 14:32:36 2021 No.17379683 File: 105 KB, 276x183, d.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] What are some novels with gimmicky but fleshout worlds? Like Discworld or Mortal Engines (only seen the movie, it sucks, but the gimmick is sweet af)

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 25 14:33:46 2021 No.17379690 >>17379683 Stormlight archive

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 25 14:50:46 2021 No.17379806 Why Bakker hates women?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 25 15:01:19 2021 No.17379880 >bakker autist spamming the thread again

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 25 15:01:42 2021 No.17379881 >>17379806 Esmenet is one of the most realistic portrayals of women in fiction.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 25 15:07:33 2021 No.17379913 >>17376605 fucking nerds on earth castrated him :(

Anonymous Mon Jan 25 15:14:11 2021 No.17379960

>>17379683
Greg Egan does this by tweaking physics:

http://www.gregegan.net/ORTHOGONAL/ORTHOGONAL.html
http://www.gregegan.net/DICHRONAUTS/DICHRONAUTS.html

The internal consistency is staggering. Hard to get into. Give a shot to the short stories on his site to figure if it's right for you.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 25 15:33:02 2021 No.17380091 >>17378966 Is it good?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 25 15:36:07 2021 No.17380114 >>17379880 t.sandersoy

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 25 15:50:12 2021 No.17380210 >>17377031 is the mc op? is the power scaling good?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 25 16:02:19 2021 No.17380315 >>17375371 >Tell me about a book written in the last 2 years that you read and enjoyed. Tao Wong's System Apocalypse series. Yes, it's litrpg. Yes it's good. I will also read the new one coming out this February.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 25 16:22:18 2021 No.17380445 >>17380114 Nope, I just woke up. Sorry nobody's bothered to pay attention to you the last few hours ;^*

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 25 16:23:27 2021 No.17380458 File: 131 KB, 633x1000, 71t4WoQu+NL.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Worth a read?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 25 16:24:46 2021 No.17380463 File: 249 KB, 1100x1347, girl white hair on rooftop.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>17379913 w0t

Anonymous Mon Jan 25 16:27:31 2021 No.17380489
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>>17380458
If you like cool and grand ideas, then fuck yeah. All three books have their shitty boring sections. I almost quit at the first half of book 2 but the ideas are fantastic and shit escalates to John C Wright levels.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 25 16:29:28 2021 No.17380505 >>17380091 I just finished a chapter that was entirely a sex scene between the Boomer author's self insert and his Russian girlfriend, both in their 60s.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 25 16:30:54 2021 No.17380523 >>17380445 t.schizo

Anonymous Mon Jan 25 16:30:56 2021 No.17380525

>>17379357
because they aren't really gods, they are basically extra-dimensional demons who are just strong and can influence somewhat the reality.
They aren't ever aware of most of the shit that happens in the real world, like the Dunyain have said, they at most can only intuit.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 25 16:33:07 2021 No.17380549 >>17378906 Maybe read some fantasy and get with the discussions? Who am I kidding, nobody in this fucking general even reads, nay, nobody on this fucking board even reads, you're all just a bunch of larpers.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 25 16:35:43 2021 No.17380568 >>17380549 I am reading, dipshit. But I would only appreciate if people used the Spoiler Filters on their discussions. What's so controversial about that?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 25 16:41:35 2021 No.17380609 >>17380549 >nobody in this fucking general even reads Many people in this general read but very infrequently and only the same ~20 authors. Regardless, there seems to be nowhere on the internet to discuss sff well, which is a despairing precedent.

Anonymous Mon Jan 25 16:43:19 2021 No.17380628

>>17380609
>Regardless, there seems to be nowhere on the internet to discuss sff well, which is a despairing precedent.
There is, in Reddit. The problem with that is that they only discuss fucking YA shit series.

Also, there's not a lot of good sff overall.

Anonymous Mon Jan 25 16:44:53 2021 No.17380642
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>>17378986
That would be kino and I'm saying this very unironically. Imagine getting someone to "save" Kellhus and he gets to join Mimara and Akka and the others, throw in some nonmen there and that undead dragon who flew away at the end of White Luck Warrior (I would guess he won't willingly serve the new Consult, since all the inchoroi and the old Consult are dead)
This is probably my favorite trope, the big "bad" guy (kellhus) eventually gets to join the ragtag good guys but only because the other bad guys are a bigger threat. And in the end, Akka and Kellhus shake hands and stare into the sunset with the world saved and damnation gone
Please bakker you cocksucking faggot just finish your series so I can die in piece

Anonymous Mon Jan 25 16:47:57 2021 No.17380670

>>17380628
>visit Reddit
>have four people disagree with you and downvote you
>that comment is now hidden BY DEFAULT from all people
>additionally have to conform to all social normalities
It's 4chan with a vote button since the userbase is no different in emotional stability nor maturity.
Forums are much the same way: Ran by popular opinion, promoted over honesty or empirical statement. You are no longer allowed to critique.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 25 16:49:16 2021 No.17380684 >>17380628 I've unironically never used reddit, I've never even clicked on that site, for some reason. Maybe the AI internet god algorithm never bothered to get me into reddit

>>	Cavegirl Mon Jan 25 16:54:22 2021 No.17380720 File: 38 KB, 333x499, 51QsEuBtfML._SX331_BO1,204,203,200_.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Are there Cthulhu mythos books after Lovecraft worth reading? What about pic related, Michael Shea?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 25 17:11:32 2021 No.17380824 >>17379683 The Inverted World, kind of

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 25 17:14:07 2021 No.17380837 >>17380523 >projecting this hard

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 25 17:16:13 2021 No.17380853 >>17380670 You're probably right. I keep forgetting how bad Reddit actually is. I've never made a post there in my life. I only lurk. But the whole thing is a fucking circle jerk. I mean, all forums are in a way. The Shard is no different.

Anonymous Mon Jan 25 17:19:30 2021 No.17380874

So I started listening to the 'We Are Legion (We Are Bob) audiobook. It's alright, can be kind of cringe at times when he uses words like epic and noob, but the concept of Von Neuman probes exploring the galaxy and competing against each other is fun.
It's unfortunate that he avoids talking about sex at all. Pretty sure if I could control my own virtual reality world on my trips between stars I would have a nice harem set up to keep me company.
He also avoids talking about a lot of the philosophical implications of immorality and self-replication, but maybe he's just warming up to that.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 25 17:19:32 2021 No.17380875 >>17380853 The Cradle sub was hilarious during Uncrowned release. >But the whole thing is a fucking circle jerk. I mean, all forums are in a way. The Shard is no different. You're not wrong. 17th is especially a bad place to discuss the Sandman.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 25 17:20:29 2021 No.17380882 File: 37 KB, 600x392, 1618987642210.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >Sanderson >Good Prose

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 25 17:26:48 2021 No.17380914 >>17380882 You're literally the only person who says that. I'm starting to wonder if you're just in denial about your worship of wordy Mormon cock.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 25 17:28:17 2021 No.17380919 >>17380882 Where is that from?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 25 17:30:31 2021 No.17380932 >>17380489 >>17380458 i quit half way through book one due to extreme boredom. all i remember is endless deflated people in the desert and people standing around with that flag system

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 25 17:34:36 2021 No.17380956 >>17380874 I might neuter myself in that situation.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 25 17:36:46 2021 No.17380966 >>17380837 >>17380445 >admitting that you’re a Soya. >thinking that you’re the only Sandersoy in the thread. >recycling the same Reddit memes 24/7. The entirety of /sffg/ accepts your defeat.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 25 17:37:54 2021 No.17380978 >>17380956 he does have a switch he can flip to turn off emotion during space battles.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 25 17:39:57 2021 No.17380991 >>17380978 I forgot to add, so maybe this means he can flip the switch to turn off sexuality and wanting to fuck, by why would you? Given the choice to create a perfect virtual reality you wouldn't want a virtual harem? I dont see a downside haha.

Anonymous Mon Jan 25 17:47:07 2021 No.17381032

>>17376605 2018 isn't 2 years ago.

>>17378906 "WHY ARE PEOPLE READING!?" "I'M HERE TO WATCH YOU ALL BE IDIOTS SO I CAN FEEL BETTER ABOUT MYSELF! STOP!"

>>17380458 No.

>>17380549 You're among the most pitiable of them all. Wishing for what you can never have. Worse yet, this is what you truly desire but you are unable to admit, the complaining about how things are to make yourself feel better. Same as the anon you responded to, but at least that anon is honest with their self.

>>17380609 You wouldn't know what to do with it even if you were there.

>>17380670
> promoted over honesty or empirical statement. You are no longer allowed to critique.
More like you saying "What I believe are facts. You have opinions. My critiques are objective statements that cannot be denied." It's simply that you're less tolerated elsewhere. How that's persecution complex going for you?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 25 17:50:03 2021 No.17381052 >>17380882 >>17380966 Tell me how many times you've posted this.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 25 17:51:54 2021 No.17381065 >>17381052 Sorry schizo, but you do realize that those are 2 diferente people, right?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 25 17:53:53 2021 No.17381078 >>17381032 retard

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 25 17:54:16 2021 No.17381080 >Madness!

Anonymous Mon Jan 25 18:18:46 2021 No.17381221
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>Vengeance roamed the halls of the compound - like a God.

>And he sang his song with a beast’s blind fury, parting wall from foundation, blowing ceiling into sky, as though the works of man were things of sand.

>And when he found them, cowering beneath their Analogies, he sheared through their Wards like a rapist through a cotton shift. He beat them with hammering lights, held their shrieking bodies as though they were curious things, the idiot thrashing of an insect between thumb and forefinger...

>Death came swirling down.

>He felt them scramble through the corridors, desperate to organize some kind of concerted defence. He knew that the sound of agony and blasted stone reminded them of their deeds. Their horror would be the horror of the guilty. Glittering death had come to redress their trespasses.

>Suspended over the carpeted floors, encompassed by hissing Wards, he blasted his own ruined halls. He encountered a cohort of Javreh. Their frantic bolts were winked into ash by the play of lights before him. Then they were screaming, clawing at eyes that had become burning coals. He strode past them, leaving only smeared meat and charred bone. He encountered a dip in the fabric of the onta, and he knew that more awaited his approach armed with the Tears of God.

>He brought the building down upon them.

>And he laughed more mad words, drunk with destruction. Fiery lights shivered across his defences and he turned, seething with dark crackling humour, and spoke to the two Scarlet Magi who assailed him, uttered intimate truths, fatal Abstractions, and the world about them was wracked to the pith.

>He clawed away their flimsy Anagogic defences, raised them from the ruin like shrieking dolls, and dashed them against bone-breaking stone.

>Seswatha was free, and he walked the ways of the present bearing tokens of ancient doom.

>He would show them the Gnosis.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 25 18:23:02 2021 No.17381251 >>17381221 I would be quite frustrated if I read a book with [social-aggregate]-spacing

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 25 18:42:47 2021 No.17381413 >>17381065 What, you not gonna edit another screenshot to make it look like you're two people or are you actually losing control of the voices?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 25 19:22:09 2021 No.17381657 File: 79 KB, 653x653, rust.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Any of you guys ever worldbuild a shit ton, and then when it comes down to writing, you realise that trying to insert all that worldbuilding is a big fucking skill in itself?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 25 19:23:24 2021 No.17381665 >>17380882 >>17381052 >>/lit/image/YMvbRcrLVTrrbUddcUyWvw Spammed continuously since November 18th, which is when the bakker-autist first started his great sperg-out.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 25 19:24:43 2021 No.17381678 >>17381657 I world build a lot but writing is extremely hard for me. I find it hard to write characters I care about and I'd just rather go back to creating geopolitical histories.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 25 19:33:49 2021 No.17381730 What is Grok?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 25 19:37:16 2021 No.17381755 >>17381657 just pull a bakker and spam your worldbuilding without explaining anything, leaving it completely to the reader to figure out what is going on lol

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 25 19:38:19 2021 No.17381767 >>17381665 I love how you think there is just one Bakker autist.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 25 19:38:46 2021 No.17381770 >>17381665 I would never have FATHOMED that these 2 strains of autism are related lol.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 25 19:39:48 2021 No.17381778 >>17381767 There's only one who can't stop posting about Sanderson though. The others are just enabling his mental illness.

Anonymous Mon Jan 25 19:41:03 2021 No.17381784

>>17381657
I've started doing chapter-by-chapter outlining. If you know how you want to end every chapter, it leaves you a lot of room to explore your other shit. It works doubly well if you rip off GRRM and end every chapter on some kind of cliffhanger.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 25 19:48:07 2021 No.17381832 File: 99 KB, 746x512, 5faykmz6g5u11.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I would die to read the novels that /sffg/ is writing. Hope I get to read the finished versions someday. Keep going frens.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 25 19:56:56 2021 No.17381907 File: 13 KB, 633x151, cope.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>17381413 >>17381665 >inb4: Edited Whatever makes you happy, schizo.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 25 19:59:13 2021 No.17381918 >>17381778 >There's only one who can't stop posting about Sanderson though. The others are just enabling his mental illness. I clearly have persecution mania. It's time to let go of 4chan and seek an actual doctor.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 25 20:05:51 2021 No.17381941 >>17381832 Thank you

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 25 20:07:12 2021 No.17381949 File: 1.43 MB, 1810x917, 1648217056918.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] This triggers the Sandersoy.

Anonymous Mon Jan 25 20:13:09 2021 No.17381979
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>I Swear guys, there's is only one person in this entire general that makes fun of Sanderson. And that same person is also the only one that enjoys Bakker trash.
>I swear he doesn't sleep, that's why we have an influx of Sanderson memes 24/7.
>I have to respond to every single one of them because he's clearly speaking to me and I have to defend Sanderson's honor.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 25 20:14:48 2021 No.17381987 >>17381907 >>17381949 >implying having a sandersoy folder is somehow less embarrassing than being the "I accept your defeat" autist

Anonymous Mon Jan 25 20:18:27 2021 No.17382003

>>17381979
Seriously, what's wrong with you? You literally post about Sanderson more than anyone in the thread. You just sit here and scream for attention and then pretend like you're some sort of mental ninja when people point out what a gibbering retard you are.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 25 20:20:00 2021 No.17382013 File: 195 KB, 912x1024, 1611436419900.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>17381979 >>17382003 Like poetry.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 25 20:24:50 2021 No.17382044 >>17380919 Dawnshard

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 25 20:27:27 2021 No.17382060 >>17380882 Nobody says Sanderson's prose is good but in this scene he's writing a fucking retard. There aren't many rules when writing dialogue

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 25 20:30:19 2021 No.17382076 >>17382013 >I'm not retarded for pointlessly baiting easy (You)'s 24/7, you're retarded for even acknowledging my existence! Classic reddit.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 25 20:44:14 2021 No.17382155 File: 33 KB, 349x642, Oldest bait in the book.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Everytime

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 25 20:48:21 2021 No.17382174 Any good books of schizos talking to themselves?

Anonymous Mon Jan 25 20:58:04 2021 No.17382241
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Shitting on an uber popular - still alive - fantasy author who writes soulless, tranny-anime tier snooze fests is done by only one individual. On a board of losers with colossal chips on their shoulders. The evidence for this is a meme being posted any time the opportunity comes to do so.

uh huh. Always find it funny how rapid Sanderson defenders are. Its almost like they know he is shit, but are too disabled to do anything about it other than cope/consume.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 25 21:01:08 2021 No.17382255 >>17382241 >uber popular What is going on with this Reddit invasion?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 25 21:03:11 2021 No.17382273 >>17382241 Sandersoy reply in 3, 2, 1...

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 25 21:18:19 2021 No.17382369 >>17382076 >willingly falling for clear bait. >blames the people baiting him. Based retard.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 25 21:30:25 2021 No.17382458 >Beeeaaase tell them! :´(

Anonymous Mon Jan 25 21:32:41 2021 No.17382478
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Just wait 'til Bakker finally cracks from his abundant mental illnesses and an heros. Then Sanderson is called in to finish the No-God books. I can't wait to drink all the delicious black tears of the sobbing Bakkerfags.

It would actually be interesting to see how Sanderson would finish Bakker's work. He'd probably put a positive twist and give it a heroic ending where the world is saved and the forces of humanity and goodness triumph. Something that old depressive misanthropic Bakker could never write.

Anonymous Mon Jan 25 21:34:36 2021 No.17382496
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Fathom, if you can, being the anti-sanderschizo (pic very much related). Wrap your mind around forcing yourself to read thousands upon thousands of pages of fiction you already know disgust you. Trace the thoughts of one whose entire identity is baiting a thread about books on a Malawian female-genital mutilation forum so they can tell anyone who will listen how much they hate this one author they've unwittingly devoted a not insignificant portion of their life to. Can you grasp how warped such a mind is? How incapable of joy? Why, just point to something you like about Sanderson and wait 10 hours, he'll have brand new poorly crafted memes trying to bait you into even more discussion about a subject he physically cannot stand! Why does he persist? What goads a person into demanding attention from people he thinks beneath him and then pointlessly mocking those that provide it? A function of his upbringing perhaps, dysfunction breeding dysfunction? Maybe a perpetual lack of social stimulus in his childhood due to being an angry humorless autist nobody wants to play with? I for one pity the schizo even as enjoy seeing his mental breakdown unfold in real time.
inb4 more big brain "NOU" posta

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 25 21:38:42 2021 No.17382530 >>17382255 I'm talking in terms of sales you suppurating arse

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 25 21:46:19 2021 No.17382599 >protag gets super powers/cultivation cheat/system/etc >uses it to grow crops and sell them at the market Do Chinese people really

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 25 21:49:59 2021 No.17382630 Ordered the Prince of Nothing series because you faggots keep talking about it; it's arriving next week. What am I in for? It had better not be a waste of time

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 25 21:51:10 2021 No.17382639 >>17382630 >buying books >in hard copy

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 25 21:52:51 2021 No.17382654 >>17382639 Screens hurt my eyes after 10 minutes and kindles are retarded

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 25 21:55:06 2021 No.17382669 >>17382639 believe it or not some people here aren't incel losers like you

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 25 21:55:17 2021 No.17382671 >>17382630 >>17382654 You ordered the whole series? Without even reading 10 minutes into the first book?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 25 21:57:40 2021 No.17382690 >>17382671 Stupid I know but I figured I might as well

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 25 21:58:57 2021 No.17382698 >>17382690 >>17382630 im about to order at least the first one but i also thought about getting a kobo or kindle. idk

Anonymous Mon Jan 25 22:02:28 2021 No.17382731

>>17382698
I'm sure for the right person they're great. I believe a Kindle paper white is a good reader. Plus, it's pretty cheap. Can't go wrong with any option though. Just try a Kindle to see if you like it, or rent one from a library if a local one provides them

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 25 22:05:23 2021 No.17382746 >>17382630 based

Anonymous Mon Jan 25 22:09:12 2021 No.17382781

>>17376740
You bring up good points, friend. Wanting to re-read the series now haha, might even have the books still.

If I recall correctly, a lot of things just stopped making sense over the series (for me). The ship definitely left harbor at some point and I stopped keeping track of it and went with the flow. I'm sure giving it a second read over will have me going wtf again.

Also, Dune: The Butlerian Jihad was very enjoyable as well. Need to finish the last book, may as well re-read that series too.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 25 22:12:24 2021 No.17382814 File: 281 KB, 1259x512, vir-chad.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Bakkerfags, I.......

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 25 22:23:59 2021 No.17382916 File: 3.89 MB, 200x200, 1565912674240.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>17382814 >r*pe Whats that mean? Were you trying to type rape but fucked up?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 25 22:34:22 2021 No.17382990 >>17376185 Reading the Great Ordeal and I spoiled the ending of The Unholy Consult. Feels like there's no point reading a 10 000 page doompost at this point.

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>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 25 22:46:47 2021 No.17383067 >>17383043 I would honestly rather wait until the no-god books are done, because if it ends with the Consult winning I'm dropping it and never looking back

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 25 23:20:58 2021 No.17383351 writing my book what cliche's should I stay away from, boys?

Anonymous Mon Jan 25 23:20:58 2021 No.17383352
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>>17381657
>>17381678

Sometimes I think there should be some kind of market where "worldbuilders" can sell their product (or team up) to other writers who are opposite, we'll call them "populators", for they cant worldbuild but they can populate it with good characters.

World builders will make their backstory, magick system, geography maps, world history and parameters, and auction it to populators. You could outright sell all the rights or ask for a percentage of profits.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 25 23:22:36 2021 No.17383363 >>17381832 If only 4channelers werent sociopaths and overall untrustworthy, most of us would gladly share links and shit.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 25 23:24:52 2021 No.17383383 >>17383352 The thing is, most writers worth their salt have no trouble worldbuilding. Most worldbuilders can’t write. So you have an uneven proposition.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 25 23:35:11 2021 No.17383463 >>17383383 They would save lots of time and could take the best pick out of 100's of choices. People are lazy.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 25 23:39:47 2021 No.17383501 >>17381657 I started writing a story and come up with the world over time. It's pointless to world build when you don't have interesting characters or a good plot.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 25 23:48:00 2021 No.17383556 >>17380642 But the world is saved at the end of UNC. Resumption restarted at last.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 25 23:50:39 2021 No.17383567 >>17382671 Books 1-3 are great The rest goes into God Emperor of Dune territory and the editor clearly loses control.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 25 23:52:42 2021 No.17383581 >>17383567 TUC is the best book of the series. >>17383556 Inchoroid detected.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 25 23:54:41 2021 No.17383594 How many years until the next Bakker arrives to make this genre fiction worthwhile?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 25 23:55:01 2021 No.17383597 >ACCURSED BE ZEÜM! Was the Aspect-Emperor a Norsirai supremacist? Did Zeümi lives not matter to him?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 25 23:59:26 2021 No.17383634 >>17383594 but i’m right here, anon.... just need to finish my manuscript.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 26 00:34:10 2021 No.17383860 >>17381832 On the third rewrite now. Hopefully the characters are better this time around.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 26 00:40:00 2021 No.17383894 Would the author-anons in this thread care to give a quick rundown of their characters/plots, so this all isn’t so mysterious?

Anonymous Tue Jan 26 00:41:07 2021 No.17383904

>>17381657
You're doing it wrong if you think the point of your story is to show off your worldbuilding. The point of the worldbuilding is to make your story have a consistent internal logic and setting. Write a story in that world and give zero fucks about what gets used and what doesn't. For example
>I've set up an entire future history for Earth including WW3 all the way through to the pulverization of the surface of the planet by asteroids centuries later
There isn't a single human character in my story. There's one (several divergent copies of to be precise) human-level AI with inconsistent and incomplete knowledge of that history. None of them are the main character and the story is never viewed through their eyes. Instead, the story is viewed from first person through an alien character from a much lower tech world.
>why did I spend all that time worldbuilding all that shit?
So that, when outlining the plot and writing dialogue, everything is completely consistent and I don't have to make shit up and risk plotholes. As well so that, even though the answers are never given, there are answers to questions readers may have and those can be revealed at some point if desired.
That's what worldbuilding is for.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 26 00:41:43 2021 No.17383905 >>17383597 he was a blonde haired blue eyed ubermensch to whom the other races were infants compared to his mighty intellect, pretty problematic

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 26 00:43:09 2021 No.17383915 >>17383894 Dances with wolves in space (again) but also it's terminator 2 with more spy vs spy games and less violence.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 26 00:43:35 2021 No.17383920 >>17381657 worldbuilding incels are fucking retarded, they just WOOOOOLRDBUILD for 10 years without writing a single word

Anonymous Tue Jan 26 01:04:58 2021 No.17384001

>>17383894
Everyone on Earth is dead except for some people on an island, and they've forgotten that they're even supposed to be trying to figure out how to blow up the bad thing. The cool magicians from the good place finally reestablish contact and try to help the people blow up the bad thing. It's more about the people, who don't know about any of this shit, just trying to live their lives, though.

Anonymous Tue Jan 26 01:12:55 2021 No.17384026

>>17383894
I've settled on a group of six characters that I want to focus the story around. One of them is a man about forty who is the second in line for sucession to rule his country. But he hated life in the palace growing up, so when a large scale peasant revolt happens when he was about 18, he runs away to go join a band of mercenaries. There he meets a few people who'll become lifelong friends, including the father of the protagonist. After the war, he and his two close friends spend some time adventuring around, and he meets a woman he falls in love with. But whereas his two friends settle down and start families, he still wants to travel. The woman, however, is always in poor health and can't handle the travel. So instead of forcing him to settle down, which she knows he wouldn't he happy with, she convinces him it would be best for both of them to part ways. He spends from that point up to where the book starts acting as sort of a spy for protagonist 1B, who he met during the war. But at the time when he turns 40, he's incredibly unhappy that he's spent his life the way he has, believing that he could have done so much more.

Another character is a young woman in her early 20s who acts as an information broker in the community/profession where the 40 year old operates. She inherited the position from her father, who was killed several years back. But because the two of them always stayed hidden and worked with layers and layers of protection, no one who hired the father ever knew that he had died. The 40 year old often paid/pays the father/her for their services. During the course of the book, she eventually reveals her identity to him during the course of an investigation into who tried to kill protagonist 1A, who the woman had become friends with. The woman bears a physical resemblance to the woman the 40 year old was in love with years ago (they come from the same country).

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 26 01:15:39 2021 No.17384041 >>17384026 >>17384001 >character-driven i like this

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 26 01:19:03 2021 No.17384059 >>17384041 Everything is

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 26 01:35:49 2021 No.17384138 >>17384059 No it isn't.

Anonymous Tue Jan 26 01:50:49 2021 No.17384195

>>17384041
I came up with most of the important characters before I really had any idea of what the story was going to be about.

The hardest character to create was the main protagonist. When I first started forming the story, I realized that the protagonist was boring compared to everyone else and that she didn't really take an active role in the story.

I eventually came up with a young girl who I'll probably make 18. She's lived her entire life alone with her father after her mother died soon after she was born. She's spent her entire life on a small-ish island that's secluded from the rest of the continent where the story takes place, so she doesn't really know anything about it besides what she's read. She was severely bullied/ignored by the other kids on the island growing up, so she starts the story painfully shy, timid, and suspicious of others. One of the themes I want to focus on are characters who hate where they are in life or who they are. The message I want to get across is if that's how you are and you want to change, you have to take an active role in it rather than waiting for it to just happen. So for her, she hates how shy and afraid of people she is, but she doesn't have the courage to try and change. She eventually will, but it's not something that happens over the course of one book where she's super confident and outgoing by the end. I think that's unrealistic and contrived.

I also deliberately made her someone who isn't and never will be a martial fighter. I think it makes the story more interesting when the reader knows that the protagonist is completely powerless in any physical fight.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 26 01:50:51 2021 No.17384196 >>17383351 None. Embrace the cliche. Fill your book with them. Be so cliche that it becomes non-cliche.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 26 02:01:38 2021 No.17384229 >>17380882 The POV character is an eccentric weirdo, so that's the vibe he's going for. But in general I don't think many people cite his prose as one of his strong points. Good worldbuilding and he writes like a machine

Anonymous Tue Jan 26 02:03:02 2021 No.17384235

>>17381657
Yeah it's a tough balance to not just overwhelm the reader. Plus you have great books like Dune or Shadow of the Torturer where there's basically no worldbuilding and you're just dropped into the action and expected to figure it the fuck out.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 26 02:10:09 2021 No.17384264 >>17383594 right here baby

Anonymous Tue Jan 26 02:11:44 2021 No.17384270

>>17384235
You ideally want to explain things to the reader organically. So if two characters are talking about a historical event they both clearly are knowledgeable about, it's stupid for one of them to go, "oh, you mean the great war where..." So I think it's fine to make references to things and not explain them while explaining events, concepts, or people only when necessary to understand what's going on. It also gives an illusion of depth to the world like LOTR has.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 26 02:15:07 2021 No.17384284 >>17384270 >remember the times of president Trump? >oh yeah, so much bullshit, I hope he rots in hell

Anonymous Tue Jan 26 02:25:07 2021 No.17384341
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>>17383894
My story centers on two families and their stories. It's a medieval, high magic, low post-industrial tech, post- eco- apocalyptic, distant future setting.
>Family 1
Human fishermen who bear a rare genestock. The eldest daughter is the last surviving heir and is expected to bear a child. She has three sibs, each of which has unique powers and limitations.
>Family 2
Ancient 'evil angels' that fell from 'heaven.' (These are Gustave Dore/Hieronymus Bosch/ biblical angels.) The grandmother and her brood, with their big schemes for the earth and their conflicted relationships about one another and surviving the depressive mental illness brought on by being trapped in the firmament for thousands of years.
>But ultimately
It's about the silence of God, our earthly prayers, the arrogance of angels, a thin line between salvation, damnation and oblivion. And not offer us. It's also about our relationship with nature, survival in a far post-collapse scenario. I am reading Bakker, Gnostic texts, Blake, Job, Ecclesiastes, Revelation, Psalms...

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 26 02:42:59 2021 No.17384406 >>17384341 What does the rare genestock do and how does it relate to the overall plot?

Anonymous Tue Jan 26 02:49:14 2021 No.17384436
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>>17384406
The rare genestock enables them to successfully mate with the angels. The second series, if I ever get around to writing it (doubt), will be about the hybrid offspring. Each generation makes choices which affect the next and so on. There are a lot of other plot-y elements like wars, apocalypse, magic artifacts, etc., but ultimately it is about these two close knit families and how they fare.

Anonymous Tue Jan 26 02:59:53 2021 No.17384484

Latest post in Peter Watts blog is about his third one where he just cheers on coronavirus as a factor for human extinction and gets really mad when people, imaginary or not, in the comments call him an ecofascist. He's done that with every pandemic that's reached the Americas in the last decade, but he seems to really love coronavirus. Someone called him a pseud and he replied by telling him he was a "sputtering haploid". The hard sci fi community is a fucking zoo.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 26 03:08:35 2021 No.17384508 >>17384484 >The hard sci fi community is a fucking zoo. He literally has a phd in zoology.

Anonymous Tue Jan 26 03:33:15 2021 No.17384600

>>17384484
I really like Watt's work and tend to read his books in 1 or 2 sittings, but the man himself strikes me as a bit of a loser. He's self-deprecating and ironic to cover for his massive ego and to pre-emptively cover his ass to any rebuttals, and does that annoying atheist thing where he loudly renounces religion but doesn't examine the beliefs that came bundled with it. Everything he writes reeks of fire-and-brimstone sermons and Evangelical eschatology, but casting natural selection as the wrathful god and transhumanism as the Rapture

There's one really telling story of his where he describes a "biological Dyson sphere" that the protagonist wants to save at any cost because it could have potentially evolved and developed free of competition and without harming any other creature, and is thus worth more than any number of human lives. Peter Watts was so fucking traumatized by his upbringing that he effectively treats evolution as original sin.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 26 03:42:14 2021 No.17384636 >>17384235 >Dune >no worldbuilding What the fuck am I reading?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 26 03:44:50 2021 No.17384643 >>17384636 I think what he means is that there's little straight exposition, which is the only way the other book he mentions (Shadow of the Torturer) would have no worldbuilding either

Anonymous Tue Jan 26 03:47:14 2021 No.17384653

I know that Sanderson is a controversial topic here, but I just read Oathbringer.

Is Rhythm of War an improvement? Because this one fell really short of my expectations. It was a horrible unpleasant read. I’m seriously considering dropping him as an author.

Anonymous Tue Jan 26 04:13:53 2021 No.17384765

serwa lives kell is in the decapitant mimara's son will probably either possess some crazy powerful magic, or else will die senselessly, classic bakkaro the survivor's son (kell's grandson) will wield a combination of metagnosis and psûke that will somehow overcome the no-god

the prophecy speaks true, screenshot this

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 26 04:20:04 2021 No.17384785 >>17384765 Never happened.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 26 04:20:34 2021 No.17384786 >>17384653 If you didn't like oathbringer you won't like rhythem of war, at best they are about the same in quality

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 26 04:21:01 2021 No.17384787 File: 323 KB, 569x821, false_hope.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>17384785 they're predictions for the next book desu

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 26 04:22:52 2021 No.17384797 >>17384787 LMAO What book?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 26 04:24:44 2021 No.17384805 >>17383597 >>17383905 Is it because of reasons like this that Bakker is hated by reddit, et al?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 26 04:25:54 2021 No.17384809 >>17382241 You are wrong. Sanderson is a better writer than Bakker will ever be. And I never even read Bakker because of his insistence of bringing up sensitive topics. Literature should be a place for escapism. Nothing you say will change my mind.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 26 04:26:38 2021 No.17384810 >>17384643 Dune has tons of exposition though. Exposition isn't just info dumps from the narrator, it can be delivered by characters, and that's the most common way it is done in Dune, through lengthy monologues.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 26 04:31:08 2021 No.17384824 File: 253 KB, 552x673, cheese forgive me.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>17384809 Cheese kill yourself

Anonymous Tue Jan 26 04:35:51 2021 No.17384839

>>17381778
No I'm pretty sure it's all one guy. This is an international thread that gets discussion at all hours, but bakkerposting only happens in the same relatively small window every day. If it's not one guy that it's at most 2-3 people and they probably are from a discord group given that we know the bakker autist copy/pastes stuff from discord to post here due to that one time he slipped up.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 26 04:37:07 2021 No.17384846 >>17384653 >I know that Sanderson is a controversial topic here He isn't really. You just run the risk of triggering one sperg.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 26 04:42:35 2021 No.17384863 >>17384846 You mean the Sandersoy? Because that’s why I said “controversial topic”. The guys is having a meltdown and speaking to himself on these threads now.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 26 04:44:19 2021 No.17384874 >>17384653 If you didn't like OB, you'll probably hate RoW.

Anonymous Tue Jan 26 04:44:58 2021 No.17384878

>>17382241
>Always find it funny how rapid Sanderson defenders are. Its almost like they know he is shit, but are too disabled to do anything about it other than cope/consume.
Oh no no no no no, we got too cocky Sandersoys. How will we ever recover from this irrefutable statement?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 26 04:45:50 2021 No.17384881 >17384863 >still baiting

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 26 04:46:18 2021 No.17384884 >>17384839 one of the bakkerfans is the anti-sandersoy, but there's definitely more than one of us, why would we bother replying to each other and discussing the series for months now otherwise?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 26 04:48:06 2021 No.17384889 >>17384863 Yeah, I’ve noticed that too, hopefully by ignoring him, he will eventually fuck off to the shard. I bet you my life that he is a regular on the podcast they do over there.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 26 04:50:46 2021 No.17384901 File: 87 KB, 1200x675, madseye.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>17376185 >Mads Mikkelsen as Cnaiur urs Skiotha Yup

Anonymous Tue Jan 26 04:51:07 2021 No.17384904

>>17384884
I think my favorite part, as the one who bothers the schizo the most, is that I actually like Bakker. Read him before I discovered Sanderson. It makes me smile when he gets triggered any time anyone shits on Bakker because I know he thinks it's me.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 26 04:52:11 2021 No.17384911 File: 168 KB, 512x218, unnamed.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>17384901 >tfw there is a head on a pole in front of you

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 26 04:54:28 2021 No.17384922 >>17384904 Literally no one here cares that people shit on Bakker.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 26 04:57:08 2021 No.17384933 >>17384911 what's this from?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 26 04:58:06 2021 No.17384937 >>17384933 valhalla rising

Anonymous Tue Jan 26 05:01:44 2021 No.17384948
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>>17384653
>I know that Sanderson is a controversial topic here
Not really. Everyone here hates Sanderson but STRANLY everyone has read and commented on the fourth book. Kek.
>Is Rhythm of War an improvement?
Definitely yes... just don't expect a return to WoK's glory.

Anonymous Tue Jan 26 05:03:07 2021 No.17384955

Regarding the scene about halfway through TTT where achamian confronts Kellhus after xins deaths..

He realises that kellhus is lying to him and isn't a prophet

kellhus appears to slip up during their conversation

“No!” he cried, leaping to his feet. “Why didn’t you heal him?” For the briefest instant Kellhus seemed taken aback—but then all was as it should be. Comfort glittered in his eyes. Understanding shouted from the line of his smile, sad and faint.

and

The transformation of his expression was subtle enough that someone standing three or more paces away would have missed it, but for Achamian it was enough to send him stumbling back in horror. As one, Kellhus’s every facial nuance went dead—utterly dead.

Kellhus then spins it into that Yes he's a liar and manipulating people but that's just because he's God/a prophet

e.x “Do you think,” a voice crackled across every possibility of hearing, “the God would be anything other than remote?”

and “Or do I lie, in that, since I am all souls, I choose the one that will turn the most hearts?”

The question is did Kellhus Mess up and not mean for Achamian to find out the truth and then try and salvage the situation by spinning some BS (or does he believe it?) about being God to salavage the situation (which works until he finds out about the dunyain from gnauir.

Or was it intentional and the mistakes were actually intentional?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 26 05:13:39 2021 No.17384998 >>17384955 Mistake, because he was being controlled like a hand puppet by ajokli to destroy humanity all along.

Anonymous Tue Jan 26 05:18:02 2021 No.17385018
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>>17384998
False. Ajokli was maybe whispering to him intermittently at that point, but didn't fully take him over until the Golden Room.

>>17384955
Pretty obvious to me that Kell's Dunyain skills slipped up for the briefest of instants. Achamian noticed, so Kell flipped it back to him like God is a spider. Kell doesn't require 100% devotion as long as you serve his ends.

Anonymous Tue Jan 26 05:22:20 2021 No.17385036

>>17385018
I remember someone saying that there's a bit where kellhus is walking and trips over a rock, does anyone have that? Might be early in darkness

>>17384998
I don't think Ajokli gives a fuck about destroying humanity, I thought his motive was more to possess kellhus and enter the material world. He wasn't fully controlling kellhus until the golden room, and even then it's debatable how much control he has and when he takes over. Kellhus was being more and more influenced the closer he got to golgotterath though and basically just went YOLO and hoped it would work out, at least that's the impression I got.

Anonymous Tue Jan 26 05:32:47 2021 No.17385097

>>17385036
yes the four horned brother made a pact with kell to enter the World in exchange for....what? it's unclear to what extent ajokli's possession of kellhus in the golden room was total, and it's unclear to what extent it was part of a bargain. kell's POV chapters show that he's in charge of his own faculties throughout the first and second series.
>part where he trips
i thought Esmenet trips while walking on a rampart, and Kell notices himself feeling the unexpected emotion of fear? need to re-read.

Anonymous Tue Jan 26 06:54:10 2021 No.17385451

>>17384948
Isn’t “pic related” the main antagonistic character that is supposedly a genius but lets herself make egregious strategic mistakes, that conveniently allows another main character run a coup as a prisoner? Even with all the rationalisation, it still read terribly wrong.

Oathbringer was barely serviceable, but I’m interested to know why you think that RoW was an improvement.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 26 07:05:38 2021 No.17385512 perhaps kellhus Perhaps Kellhus has managed to get Ajokli stuck in Earwa and at the same time got sent to hell and supplants him.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 26 07:11:14 2021 No.17385534 Is Erikson's Deadhouse Gates based on any real historical event?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 26 07:35:20 2021 No.17385647 >>17385534 not as far as I know but i'm sure similar things have happened https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anabasis_(Xenophon)

Anonymous Tue Jan 26 07:41:09 2021 No.17385676
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My reading list for classic Sword&Sorcery with the focus on influences on classic D&D (which I'm GMing).
Basically taken from Gygax' Appendix N with the addition of Clark Ashton Smith.
Your thoughts?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 26 08:00:03 2021 No.17385756 >>17385676 Read and weep that D&D is not Sword & Sorcery.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 26 08:04:48 2021 No.17385775 >>17380210 Mc is op but the novel is more story driven so magic is just there used more like a tool rather than whole story being about magic and system of magic or magical advancement.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 26 08:05:56 2021 No.17385783 >Dune >Dune Messiah >Children of Dune >God Emperor of Dune >Heretics of Dune >Chapter House Dune RANK 'EM, FELLAS!

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 26 08:31:35 2021 No.17385921 >>17375371 Gonna try write a mecha WWIII story with survivalist elements. Anything like that already so I can stop the idea if it's unoriginal?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 26 08:46:12 2021 No.17385986 >>17376185 >Henry Cavill I’m quite divided on Pedro Pascal. I think that he would probably be a better Conphas. Christian BALE as Proyas would be Kino.

Anonymous Tue Jan 26 08:50:53 2021 No.17386012

>>17385534
to my knowledge it's heavily inspired by Glen Cook's Black Company series, and Glen Cook himself was inspired by his days as a GI in Vietnam

in other words the second-hand experience gives it an air of military realism. maybe that's what you're reacting to

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 26 09:27:53 2021 No.17386197 >>17382630 The anti-sanderson-schizo won.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 26 09:55:21 2021 No.17386340 >>17380458 if you dont get filtered like the other retards replying, yes. best scifi of the last decoade.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 26 09:56:35 2021 No.17386348 >>17386340 >decoade.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 26 10:04:10 2021 No.17386391 >>17385676 you need to read karl edward wagners kane

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 26 10:06:29 2021 No.17386403 >>17385921 don't think so >>17386340 english translation is censored because it called a woman pure and stuff lol >>17385986 I imagined proyas with a rounder head type proyas bakker into google images lol

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 26 10:13:20 2021 No.17386465 >>17386197 More like the bakkerfags' brainworms are contagious. Which is thematically accurate I suppose.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 26 10:13:49 2021 No.17386473 >>17386403 >english translation is censored because it called a woman pure and stuff lol What did it say in the original?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 26 10:14:22 2021 No.17386481 >>17386465 Cope

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 26 10:15:19 2021 No.17386490 >>17386473 https://www.globaltimes.cn/content/917836.shtml the fact that he used words like pure and angelic was problematic

Anonymous Tue Jan 26 10:20:10 2021 No.17386527
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gotta admit, as a bakker fan, sandersons work definitely has a lot more LETS GOOOOO epic moments like the end of most of his books.

Super Saiyan Kaladin at the end of book one was cool

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 26 10:22:44 2021 No.17386550 >>17386527 Based. I literally felt like I was reading Naruto again. The super powers and power levels were fucking epic dude.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 26 10:25:26 2021 No.17386571 >Kellhus brings war. Kellhus brings murder. Kellhus brings manipulation. >Does Kellhus bring healing, does he bring love? Kellhus unironically btfo

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 26 10:30:15 2021 No.17386595 >>17386481 I'm re-reading TDTCB, I'm coping just fine, thanks :^)

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 26 10:40:02 2021 No.17386660 ttttt-tttt--ttwwooo??? tw-twooo inutterals?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 26 10:42:08 2021 No.17386673 >Imagine being so thoroughly humiliated, that you feel the need to post shitty bait/memes that everyone in the thread ignores. Sandersoy eternally BTFO.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 26 10:43:16 2021 No.17386684 >>17386391 >karl edward wagners kane Looks legit. Thx, noted.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 26 10:43:30 2021 No.17386688 "I looked, and behold, a Whirlwind came out of the North..." - Ezekiel 1:4

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 26 10:43:43 2021 No.17386691 >>17386660 Finally, all those years of being a math autist will pay off

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 26 11:03:06 2021 No.17386853 >>17386527 More like the generation after Zoomer.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 26 11:22:02 2021 No.17386990 Fuck E William Brown Where is Space Loli Marine Princess 2?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 26 11:32:00 2021 No.17387046 >>17385775 >>17377031 doesn't everyone treat the mc as utter shit?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 26 11:52:51 2021 No.17387172 >>17387046 Maybe only in the first five chapters, then it's themc who treats everyone else like shit

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 26 12:15:07 2021 No.17387326 File: 40 KB, 294x475, 1883788._SY475_.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] kinda meh. do they get better?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 26 12:16:43 2021 No.17387339 >>17387326 Yes. The series picks up when Thanquol is introduced to be the Team Rocket, then picks up again with the first major arch in the journey to find Karag Dum.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 26 12:17:54 2021 No.17387349 >>17387339 is that in skaven slayer? (the next one)

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 26 12:19:28 2021 No.17387363 >>17387349 I think so, it's after the Karak Eight Peaks stories.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 26 12:24:28 2021 No.17387395 File: 133 KB, 718x1024, scottbakker signing.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Is he alive bros?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 26 12:28:26 2021 No.17387410 >>17387395 >Does it trouble you, Anon...

Anonymous Tue Jan 26 12:35:11 2021 No.17387470

>>17383894
>>17381657
continuing from these posts earlier

I'm almost done with the chapter outlines for my book and I want to start fleshing it out with real writing in the next few days. Whenever I write, my prose always winds up very much inspired by whoever the last person I read was. (I'm a slow reader, and by the time I finish something, it's burned into the way I think for a while, so while I think that happens to everyone it's especially true for me.) So that being said, what should I read? If I write right now, you're getting wannabe Hemingway, and nobody wants that except maybe Hemingway who is dead. Should I go for complete commercial appeal and reread something from GRRM? Wolfe? Do you have a favorite who you'd like to see some fantasy written like? They don't have to be fantasy authors themselves, but preferably they'd at least be someone I could at least come close to emulating well.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 26 12:43:40 2021 No.17387519 >>17387363 alright. i'll continue with it at some point

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 26 13:11:49 2021 No.17387683 File: 52 KB, 300x454, 6065215.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Worth a read?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 26 13:28:10 2021 No.17387786 >>17387683 I enjoyed it. It was Fucked up. It has a lot of biblical under and overtones, so if you are a sissy fag who gets triggered when you see religion stay away.

Anonymous Tue Jan 26 13:29:21 2021 No.17387794
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>>17386403
>>17385986
Pascal is the ideal Proyas imho.
>Bale or Cavill
Both actors are too much “dicks” to play the role. Pascal seems kind and genuine despite a sheen of arrogance. Also Conriyans are described to be swarthy.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 26 13:29:46 2021 No.17387798 >>17387786 Really? I fucking love biblical and religious shit. >Del Toro How pozzed is it?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 26 13:30:40 2021 No.17387805 wtf is with these tv shits? Why are we talking about movie or tv series in the fucking literature board?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 26 13:32:41 2021 No.17387817 >>17387805 It was a book before it was a show

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 26 13:33:05 2021 No.17387818 >>17387794 I think he could manage both, but I still think that he would be a better Conphas. He can play the cunty brat role. No really seeing him playing the devoted role. Who would you like for Xinemus?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 26 13:34:15 2021 No.17387827 >>17387798 I read it 10 years ago, I can't recall any "pozzing".

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 26 13:36:12 2021 No.17387837 >>17387817 I'm talking about Prince of Nothing, faggot. The cunnyfags from tv are shitting up this thread with casting calls. They are not discussing any fucking book.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 26 13:37:19 2021 No.17387843 File: 120 KB, 1920x817, turn_it_off.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>17387837 cope

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 26 13:45:15 2021 No.17387895 >>17387805 >Why are we talking about movie or tv series Who is discussing movies/tv series?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 26 14:07:13 2021 No.17388024 This general is a snail fest.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 26 14:09:40 2021 No.17388042 >Shill after all.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 26 14:14:01 2021 No.17388072 >>17382060 >Nobody says Sanderson's prose is good Plenty of idiots say that, even here, but usually only around whenever the hack shits out another piece of dreck.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 26 14:52:24 2021 No.17388326 >>17388072 Most people don't really know what prose is.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 26 14:58:18 2021 No.17388357 >>17388326 Majority of this thread included.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 26 14:59:37 2021 No.17388360 >>17388357 Including you.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 26 15:05:27 2021 No.17388390 What are some good tolkienesque fantasy series? By that I mean high fantasy populated by humans, dwarves, elves, orcs, etc.

Anonymous Tue Jan 26 15:07:45 2021 No.17388405
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>>17342280
Alright, I finished the 4th book. Citadel. Which was clearly meant to be the finale. Despite the later released Urth.
I'm just going to stop here. I stopped caring about what was happening partway though the third book. But I didn't have that conscious thought until partway though the fourth. When I finally said to myself "I don't care".

I just didn't care. I can't really point to anything "wrong" with the book. Like, it's written well enough written. And the concepts are ok. I just didn't feel any real concern over the events. Things just happened. Like I said in previous posts, the character constantly gets sidetracked. Happening into one situation or another without any higher purpose. It's almost like a series of vignettes that have been strung together. Until the end, when he tries to call back everything he set up. Which at that point, I was so lost, I didn't really care who's motivations served who's goals. And it sounded like everyone was being manipulated by higher powers to serve a singular purpose anyway. So in the end, did anyone's schemes really matter?
Though the guy who could only speak in accepted scripture was hilarious. That was a really cool and funny idea. The one exciting element in all of book 4.

I feel like Book of the New Sun is more of an aesthetic experience. It's like the movie Heavy Metal. You know that movie, right? You have all these animators come together to make an experience that is more about the aesthetic than the narrative. You enjoy it for the animation, and the setting and tone and babes, and swords, and guns, and skulls, and hardcore violence. And that's all well and good. But you can't expect people to pay attention to all that for a 4 book series. Which amounts to about 38 hours of audio.

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>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 26 15:17:52 2021 No.17388458 >>17388390 Wheel of time. No dwarves tho.

Anonymous Tue Jan 26 15:18:22 2021 No.17388463

>>17378115
Nah there's been plenty of foreshadowing anon, we also had no idea about how much of the more surreal stuff would actually be true in BOTNS until Urth, so I could definetly see the same sorta thing happening in No-God.
too bad Bakker burns in hell

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 26 15:18:42 2021 No.17388468 >>17388390 Memory Sorrow & Thorn >>17388405 pleb >>17388072 That's because the majority of Sanderson's audience literally only reads Sanderson. Nothing else is marketed to them in the same way.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 26 15:18:54 2021 No.17388471 >>17388042 Hey, do not offend my waifu ok?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 26 15:19:45 2021 No.17388479 >>17388405 Also please stop trying to review things you only listened to. You're embarrassing yourself.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 26 15:20:00 2021 No.17388480 Get in here Bakkerchads: >>17388474 >>17388474 >>17388474

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 26 15:20:48 2021 No.17388483 >>17388479 I will not stop.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 26 15:26:16 2021 No.17388511 >>17383594 Gimme 10 years anon

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 26 16:40:51 2021 No.17389047 >>17388511 Better make it 5. The genre really needs an infusion of fresh blood.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 26 16:42:12 2021 No.17389060 >>17389047 I'll try but I don't wanna let my work suffer too much for it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 26 17:00:48 2021 No.17389209 >>17389060 don't keep us waiting too long, friend.

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