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17351722 No.17351722 [Reply] [Original]

Any discussion and argument made by a materialist will ALWAYS be in bad faith, because materialists hold no real conviction
The fact that materialism does not logically lead to nihilism is proof that materialists hold un-materialistic beliefs (even the basest of moral judgements fits here) that precede their actual "philosophy"
For example, say you ask the materialist this question: if gender is a social construct, why should trans people be seen as anything other than idiots who see gender as the trap it is, but still fall for it?
It's not that they can't answer this question, but their first instinct will be to redefine some term of the question asked as to allow trans people to be heckin' cute and valid, instead of analyzing their philosophy and the placement of trans people in it
They hold the value "trans people good" before the basics of their "philosophy", therefore they are engaged in a framework that they don't recognize and "materialism" is just a code they attribute it post-hoc
This is why debunking any materialist philosophical term is useless, they will just redefine it to mean whatever the framework they already believe in and deny that framework's very existence as a philosophical proposition or otherwise
GOD I FUCKING HATE THESE FAGGOTS

>> No.17351730

>>17351722
You talk like a child, or a woman.

>> No.17351741

What exactly does trans have to do with materialism?

>> No.17351753

>>17351730
I'm very based what can i say

>> No.17351769

karl marx said gayness in general was borgoise fun.

>> No.17351781

>>17351741
It's an example, the point is the logic in answering the question is fucked, you can ask this question about any stance the materialist has
In case of communism, something along the lines of "How are workers entitled to the fruits of their labour if you don't believe in objective morality"

>> No.17351853

>>17351781
its a prediction bros.
That capitalism would collapse and usher in socialism.

>> No.17351903

>>17351722
Let me put it in terms you'll immediately understand anon. You treat materialism about as fairly and deeply like fedora atheists treat The Bible.

>> No.17351911

>>17351903
no he doesn't
it's just not that deep

>> No.17351913
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17351913

>Materialism is cringe and unbased and bluepilled and FUCK I HATE IT

>> No.17352149

Materialist here
>>17351722
>if gender is a social construct, why should trans people be seen as anything other than idiots who see gender as the trap it is, but still fall for it?
While I'm not a "gender is a social construct" type (yet); assuming I were one I would call trans people retards... Nonetheless I call trans people retards
>>17351781
>How are workers entitled to the fruits of their labour if you don't believe in objective morality
They're not, no one is inherently entitled to anything

>> No.17352213

how can you be materialistic if perception itself is unmaterialistic?

>> No.17352283

>>17351903
Fedora atheists are right about the bible, the only reason anyone even disagrees with them is aesthetics

>> No.17352298

>>17352283
This.
>>17351903
Sorry bro, you're just wrong. Materialism is just as retarded as Bible-thumping.

>> No.17352353

>>17352213
Perception is the universe perceiving itself bro

>> No.17352378

>>17351722
Seethe
Cope
Dilate

>> No.17352444

>>17351753
cringe

>> No.17353389

>>17352213
What makes you think perception is unmaterialistic?

>> No.17353566

>>17351730
Very cool, now instead of this gay exercise in attempted goat-getting, how about you try to refute the post?