/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.17350755]

Books with a dominant female and a submissive male?

[Anonymous No.17350764]

>>17350755
my diary desu

[Anonymous No.17350766]

First Love by Turgenev
Nana by Zola

[Anonymous No.17350776]

gaytube.com

[Anonymous No.17350791]

Quicksand and Naomi. Both by Tanizaki.
>>17350766
Good recs.

[Anonymous No.17350796]

https://www.horntip.com/html/books_&_MSS/1890s/1893_gynecocracy_(HCs)/index.htm

[Anonymous No.17350820]

>>17350755
>>17350764
Wow, you're fags.

[Anonymous No.17350830]

The Thing on the Doorstep.

[Anonymous No.17350994]

>>17350755
OP, did you take a peek at my christmas wishlist?

[Anonymous No.17350996]

>>17350755
Pretty much, uhh. Almost all catboy fanfics.

[Anonymous No.17351000]

I have realized I will die alone, single, and a virgin. It is impossible and utterly hopeless for me to ever find a romantic or sexual partner. I have decided to abandon love and instead turn to self destruction

[Anonymous No.17351008]

>>17351000
You'll feel better if you point it at self improvement instead

[Anonymous No.17351017]

>>17351008
Self improvement that will lead you to the same result: loneliness, death, and virginity. Only instead you won't be having fun from the drug use but meandering grinding work for nothing. It makes sense for people who actually have realistic chances at finding a partner, but not people who are unable to.

[Anonymous No.17351050]

>>17350755
The obvious pick is Venus in Furs

[Anonymous No.17351069]

>>17350755
Several Shakespeare plays have this dynamic, including As You Like It, Twelfth Night, and Merchant of Venice.

[Anonymous No.17351121]

>>17351017
Why can't you find love? Autisim or just ugly?

[Anonymous No.17351131]

>>17351121
Autism, literal autism
I am incapable of interacting with women
I'm not hot enough to make up for it. I'm not repulsive but I'm not a model

[Anonymous No.17351165]

>>17350755
all muslim books, the son is then dom to all other household members ofc
secret slave and caliphate show this nicely

[Anonymous No.17351184]

star wars the last jedi

[Anonymous No.17351218]

>>17351000
>I have decided to abandon love and instead turn to self destruction
Why? There is videogames, books, Tvshows for you. Plenty of things for an incel to do.

[Anonymous No.17351228]

>>17351000
Good.

[Anonymous No.17351256]

>>17351000
Let it consume you and then turn it back onto the world, and cause great chaos and despair. This is your duty my son. You will not choose your fate but you will embrace it.

[Anonymous No.17351336]

>>17351256
Satanism is so gay

[Anonymous No.17351620]

>>17351336
>Baphomet
>Satanism
Your brain is smooth

[Anonymous No.17351624]

Venus in Furs
the term masochism comes from the author's name
>>17351000
basado

[Anonymous No.17351625]

>>17351620
Ok, "muh left-hand path" is so gay. Happy?

[Anonymous No.17351633]

>>17351625
How exactly is it gay? Also, Baphomet doesn't necessarily correspond to LHP.

[Anonymous No.17351695]

>>17351633
Whatever it is you're babbling about, it's gay

[Anonymous No.17351742]

>>17351121
bro the tism hits me harder every day, I'm not even nervous when I interact with people anymore, I just don't want to follow a behavioral norm that people recognize as the way you 'should do' things. Feels so unnatural to me. Basically went from shy to uncaring.

[Anonymous No.17351748]

>>17351633
>Baphomet doesn't necessarily correspond to LHP
OH GOD OH GOD IM TURNING RETARDED
HURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
DURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

[Anonymous No.17351754]

>>17351069
>Twelfth Night
na

[Anonymous No.17351765]

>>17351017
Their parents did. Why wouldn't he find one?

[Anonymous No.17351770]

>>17351633
It is literally transsexual. Androgynous, formless. Solve et coagula.

[Anonymous No.17351780]

>>17351017
Shoo shoo nihilist. Go affirm your will to suicide elsewhere.

[Anonymous No.17351788]

>>17351000
Start praying.

[Anonymous No.17351791]

>>17351000
Talk to women you insufferable fag
Or better yet, don't.

[Anonymous No.17351807]

>>17350755
... Venus in Furs?

[Anonymous No.17352055]

>>17351000
post wrist
>>17350764
hahahahahhahaha

[Anonymous No.17352115]

Well Kafka on the Shore, since Oshima is a woman technically

[Anonymous No.17352216]

>>17351000
have sex

[Anonymous No.17352227]

>>17351000
trips of nihil. absolutely based

[Anonymous No.17352363]

>>17350755
You're diary desu

[Anonymous No.17352376]

>>17350766
>First Love by Turgenev
just bought this based on your recommendation and i hope i didn't waste my money

i know where you live btw

[Anonymous No.17352384]

>>17350764
i love this response
kiss your diary gn for me tonight anon
she's lovely

[Anonymous No.17352457]

>>17351131
Dude just go on less hookup-y apps (Bumble, Hinge, etc.) And as long as your standards are not incredibly high and you're not a disaster there will be women who will literally marry you, provide for you and/or eat your ass within a few days of stilted text conversation.

[Anonymous No.17352461]

>>17350755
Disgusting and unnatural pairing. Consider suicide

[Anonymous No.17352467]

>>17352461
>unnatural
define natural

[Anonymous No.17352528]

>>17352467
Go get TOPPED by a nigger

[Anonymous No.17352571]

>>17350755
oof, se looks like a natural dom

[Anonymous No.17352770]

>>17351121
>>17351742
Genuinely starting to feel the same way. Never learned to play the new game during adolescence when all the rules changed. Was always this outcast weirdo. Now I'm pretty comfortable with myself but find social interaction to be tedious at best and something to be endured at worst. These weird behavioural norms are just so unnatural especially when it comes to women.

[Anonymous No.17352791]

>>17350755
Tall, strong, sadistic femdoms are literally the hottest thing out there. Too bad the demand far outpaces the supply. You're best off staying away from this fetish and just going for a vanilla girl who you can convince to peg you and slap you from time to time.

[Anonymous No.17352801]

>>17350755
The Blue Angel. Thinking of the movie.

[Anonymous No.17352849]

>>17352770
Does anyone simply feel painfully inconstant and mutable when it comes to capacity to socialize?
There are days when I socialize so naturally. The words flow and the connection with others seems so rewarding and fulfilling. There are other days when I simply can't connect. I can't string a single coherent sentence together and people feel so far away, so distant. Like aliens to me.
I have no idea what determines this inconstancy and feel at the mercy of forces I cannot control.

[Anonymous No.17352973]

>>17350755
I myself enjoy this type of pairing. If only I could stand to read romance novels.

[Anonymous No.17353028]

Ulysses

[Anonymous No.17353041]

>>17352973
Man I'd be a huge cunt too if my parents named me "Ginko" lmao

[Anonymous No.17353081]

>>17351625
The O9A is actually based

[Anonymous No.17353086]

>>17352528
already did
i am your mom now

[Anonymous No.17353118]

>>17352973
Sauce?

[Anonymous No.17353133]

why do so many femdom guys want to be short feminine twinks and take a plastic dick up the ass? i like when my gf is selfish and takes charge, and worshiping her body. i always think it's strange that my version of femdom isn't more common since it's basic and low tech. it seems like the catboy twink and pegging version is more common by far.

[Anonymous No.17353138]

>>17353118
Of course.
Bully and the Bullied
https://exhentai.org/g/1323624/09bc1828a5/

[Anonymous No.17353180]

>>17350764
Incredibly based.

[Anonymous No.17353185]

>>17353138
Thanks - link seems dead to me, but might be chrome.

[Anonymous No.17353225]

>>17353185
You'll have to empty your cache and make an e-hentai account to get on exhentai, but if the hentai doesn't include incest, shota, loli or bestiality then you can replace the "x" with "-" to get to the more watered down version of the site.

[Anonymous No.17353237]

>>17353225
You're a prince

[Anonymous No.17353287]

>>17353237
No prob. Figuring out exhentai is essential if you want access to the best, and a lot of good stuff is labeled as unsuitable for e-hentai despite being palatable for most consumers. I'd also recommend:
Stalking Girl
https://nhentai.net/g/185294/
or
https://exhentai.org/g/968434/49889d7534/
https://exhentai.org/g/986110/b97fc50bd2/
https://exhentai.org/g/986268/d195a1b7db/

[Anonymous No.17353330]

>>17353133
Any sort of femdom is degenerate. Not saying it’s not arousing, but it’s genuinely a transgression of the natural order.

[Anonymous No.17353370]

>>17353330
Plebeian take. Women doting, even forcefully, is natural and appeals to the instincts of men and women. To think that femdom demeans the man is no different than thinking being a housewife demeans the woman.

[Anonymous No.17353407]

>>17350755
That's hot

[Anonymous No.17353496]

My femdom and cuckold fetish disappeared when I started doing Shikantaza meditation everyday.

[Anonymous No.17353532]

>>17351791
why bother talking to women? why subject yourself to that misery?

[Anonymous No.17353606]

>>17353370
>To think that femdom demeans the man is no different than thinking being a housewife demeans the woman.

[Anonymous No.17353617]

>>17353532
Talking to women is a lot like walking a dog. If you treat the dog like an object that controls you by requiring maintenance, then of course you're miserable and you've enslaved yourself to a lesser being.
A properly ordered individual understands that the maintenance is performed as part of the obligatory responsibility of ownership. You are the societal master of women (or, if not yet, you SHOULD be. Order yourself properly) and talking with them to signal, for example, sexual intercourse is part of the deal.

[Anonymous No.17353619]

Boy Parts by Eliza Clarke, came out last year the whole book is about this british slut that likes to dom dudes she meets on the bus

[Anonymous No.17353653]

>>17353370
As soon as you let your woman take a dominant position over you, she will start to resent you and lose respect for you. That is how real women are, not the ones from kike porn and doujinshis.
It is against the order of nature, and nature itself resists it.

[Anonymous No.17353686]

>>17353653
Thats not true of all women, just the ones with daddy issues

[Anonymous No.17353702]

>>17353496
Femdom and cuckolding are two separate sexual paths and are not related.

Cuckolding is a person excluded from his own sexuality. He views the sight of sex as a third party, outsider, spectator. He has no connection to the woman and is not there. Femdom, you are involved in the sex, you are there, the person is apart of his own sexual world, but is merely in a submissive role towards the female. Cuckolding is not a submissive act whatsoever, it is an aromantic act, and partly misogynistic and misanthropic. I believe it mostly comes from pornography and poor connection between one's self and sexuality.

Femdom is submissive but not masochistic. It is maternal and familial, a form of close intimacy humans desire from one another, but now taken form through one's sexual partner, as they did not/cannot receive it through other means. The sexual partner simply takes that role, the role to discipline, pamper, command, dot, all what makes up "femdom" or "maledom", are all desires humans crave, since we are socially dependent on each other, and hence have biological needs for social practices such as them. Femdom is just those needs being relieved through sex rather than family or other relationships. Quite normal, and yes, stepmom, rolecest, and "daddydom" kinks are all just forms of femdom and maledom.

[Anonymous No.17353714]

>>17351008

[Anonymous No.17353726]

>>17353686

[Anonymous No.17353764]

>>17353653
All men are submissive to their women through varying degrees, at different points, in different ways. No man can escape this. I have not met a man who did not serve his wife in some way. This is delusion.

Even in your logic you are trying to appease women.
>"think of what the woman wants"
>"so do what she wants so she won't leave you"
See? There is no escape. Human relationships are mutually a power exchange. You shouldn't be a doormat of course, but you are not 100% in control. And if you are worried about women leaving you, I say stop caring. Women will leave you one way or the other, it does not matter what you do most of the time. Whether relationships end can be up to the wind at times. And you shouldn't be hiding your true desires anyway, embrace them and find the best partner for yourself; that will ensure you get the longest relationship that you desire.

[Anonymous No.17353781]

>tfw you have a passive submissive personality, are short, and have "cute" twinky facial features but are a straight man

kill me

[Anonymous No.17353804]

>>17353781
straight up might as well go gay. its not that bad.

[Anonymous No.17353819]

>>17353781
Go gay or find an aggressive taller straight girl. Such girls are quite common.

[Anonymous No.17353822]

>>17352849
Good description anon, I definitely feel the same. I read one time there was a study where they literally incited symptoms of autism in rats by blocking a brain signal or some fluid. My best guess is sleep, exercise, eating well, and pushing through the initial uncertainty of communication are the best we can do for now. Drugs can help sometimes but honestly they make me overbearing as often as they make me socialable

[Anonymous No.17353833]

>>17351218
Not that dude, but my girl left me along with my little daughter and I've been single for almost a year now. All I do is read books, watch docs, play games etc. None of these will fill that void.

Nihilist bro, if you're reading this, you have to know: to never have tasted something is better than having tasted and then lose it. I wish I never had a relationship and could go back to being a virgin. Break-ups are way worse than unrequited love, believe me. Seeing how this generation is becoming increasingly unable to maintain relationships, going into a LTR you almost know from the start that it's gonna end anyway in 3 years tops.

[Anonymous No.17353843]

>>17353726
This makes no sense my friend. If women were truly akin to biological machines whose only purpose and aim in life is to create children we would not see the low fertility rates we are experiencing in developed countries today. In fact the trends show that, as women become educated, financially independent, and politically equal -- thus allowing them more freedom to make the decisions they want to make -- they are less likely to choose to have children.
But I'm sure you have your answers to this. Fine. Even if we assume you're right -- women are no more than baby-making machines -- what has that got to do with Femdom? A man who is sexually submissive can impregnate a woman just as easily as a man who is sexually dominant. It doesn't matter if she's on top or you're on top, if you cum in her you will eventually make babies. Nor does being sexually submissive hamper your abilities to "provide for a woman and her children" (which doesn't even happen anymore; in modern times both sexes go to work). An office rat who likes to eat pussy and a Polish construction worker who likes to be dominant in bed both get paid a wage and are both therefore just as able to "provide for a woman and her children."
In conclusion, your evopsych garbage is cringe.

[Anonymous No.17353859]

>>17353843
>we would not see the low fertility rates we are experiencing in developed countries today.
Correct for abortion rates and recalculate

[Anonymous No.17353878]

>>17353764
>And you shouldn't be hiding your true desires anyway, embrace them and find the best partner for yourself; that will ensure you get the longest relationship that you desire.
It's not about hiding your true desires, but about recognizing your desire is deviant, and instead embracing your role as a man.
>>17353843
You are speaking hypothetically, abstractly. Your logic has internal consistency, and I can't help but recognize that. However, real woman are what they are. Their nature is set, like it or not. They are subordinate creatures and they like being put in their rightful place.

[Anonymous No.17353903]

>>17353878
oscar knew whats up. man loved a good ol bum burying

[Anonymous No.17353912]

>>17351000
seems legit

[Anonymous No.17353916]

>>17353903
Yes, he was a fag, and thus not blinded by the dick on the (clearly obvious) true nature of women

[Anonymous No.17353945]

>>17353878
Many of your desires are apart of who you are and are not changeable. Why should the individual accept that he is then "deviant" when the system can be much more easily changed, and is the cause of his deviance in the first place? Furthermore, your view is not practical in the slightest. See reality, where everyone is a deviant except liars. We should therefor just embrace the many forms of sexuality and roles that people may have rather than live in subjugation. It will lead us to greater heights, better relationships, stronger human bonds, happier populace. Besides, if we're all deviants, were our previous beliefs on sexuality initially correct? Obviously not.

[Anonymous No.17353949]

Whereas I like the idea of a tall females, muscular women and fantasy depictions of either, in reality it's frankly disgusting, it's just a roided female that looks 90% male or a lanky ugly hobgoblin.
The one thing I can appreciate in reality is that you can be the big, muscular counterpart and you can manhandle a lady of small stature.

[Anonymous No.17353971]

East of Eden

[Anonymous No.17353976]

>>17353945
I'm sorry man. What you write sounds really good and I would like a world like that as well, but the reality is very different. Read this:
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/snow-white-doesnt-live-here-anymore/200907/why-do-women-fall-bullies

[Anonymous No.17353978]

>>17353949
I can't live typos down, I'll just commit seppuku. Goodbye everyone.

[Anonymous No.17354023]

>>17353976
>not responding with your own words
>instead with a Psychology Today article
Oh come on, that's pathetic. I'm a different anon btw, I was just arguing for the sake that sexuality is very fluid and we should accept that. "Women prefer bullies" is laughable incel drivel. Unless people think I'm a bully, then I guess it's true. People always describe me as an arrogant dick.

[Anonymous No.17354040]

>>17353976
Not him, but the problem is that you see women as a homogenous and unchanging mass who are stringently bound by their "nature". Yes, perhaps the majority of women are sexually submissive, just like the majority of men are sexually dominant, but it obviously varies depending on the individual.
Also your article assumes that a man who is sexually submissive must be "weak" and socially inept as well. I don't see why that should be the case.

[Anonymous No.17354071]

What’s with /lit/ and your incessant desire to capture the essence of the feminine. Their personas reflect a game like method of mate analysis that is evolutionarily designed to urge you into falling into her vagina if she sees fit. Otherwise, she redirects and gives you blueballs because she sees past your facade.

[Anonymous No.17354100]

Don't you apes get it? You lost the moment you craved pussy. So long as women have what you crave, you must submit to them in some way (they usually want resources). The future is AI waifus.

[Anonymous No.17354195]

>>17354040
>Not him, but the problem is that you see women as a homogenous and unchanging mass who are stringently bound by their "nature".
All the greatest thinkers in history would agree, women are indeed rather homogenous and animallistic compared to men as a whole.

> Yes, perhaps the majority of women are sexually submissive, just like the majority of men are sexually dominant, but it obviously varies depending on the individual.
You evidently see far, far more submissive men than dominant women, it's not comparable, cope.

> Also your article assumes that a man who is sexually submissive must be "weak" and socially inept as well. I don't see why that should be the case.
Because you are, deep down, weak and inept, or else you would not allow an animallistic being to have power over you,
I used to be that way too, and my submissiveness stopped me from achieving my life goals, think about it, our nature is to be dominant, to be the opposite, indicates a faulty nervous system, and it was the case for me, it is linked to an inability to be yourself, to stand up for yourself, and to work hard to improve; It gated me from becoming an actually "strong" man, even mentally, who could provide.

[Anonymous No.17354199]

>>17354023
>not responding with your own words
>instead with a Psychology Today article
>I was just arguing for the sake that sexuality is very fluid and we should accept that.
You are working under premises that aren't true and I know I will not able to change your worldview. I had your worldview too once, until experience hit me on the face.
>"Women prefer bullies" is laughable incel drivel.
The title is an exaggeration for clickbait. Read the article.
>>17354040
>you see women as a homogenous and unchanging mass who are stringently bound by their "nature".
Yes. In essence, yes.
>but it obviously varies depending on the individual.
It does not, and when it does it is unstable deviant behavior. Any healthy relationship between a man and a woman requires the former to be the authority and the latter to be subordinate.
>Also your article assumes that a man who is sexually submissive must be "weak" and socially inept as well. I don't see why that should be the case.
Me neither, and neither do women rationally, but subconsiously they see it that way. Her animal side sees it that way.

[Anonymous No.17354213]

>>17354195
>this level of projection
Dude just give up. The overcompensation is embarrassing

[Anonymous No.17354215]

>>17354195
>I used to be that way too, and my submissiveness stopped me from achieving my life goals, think about it, our nature is to be dominant, to be the opposite, indicates a faulty nervous system, and it was the case for me, it is linked to an inability to be yourself, to stand up for yourself, and to work hard to improve; It gated me from becoming an actually "strong" man, even mentally, who could provide.
I believe this is why so many young men on the internet are into femdom nowadays. Spiritually they feel feminine, because of an incapacity or unwillingness to assert themselves as men in real life.

[Anonymous No.17354225]

>>17354213
>Dude just give up. The overcompensation is embarrassing
If i gave up it would be taking the path of least resistance
It's painful and lengthy to correct your nervous system, but i have to do it for my own sake