/sffg/ - Childhood Reads Edition

[Anonymous No.17342638]

>/science-fiction and fantasy general/
Thread topic: Post some obscure /sff/you remember reading before high school. Pic related.

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[Anonymous No.17342645]

I want a Cûnuroi wife

[Anonymous No.17342680]

fuck niggers
fuck trannies

[Anonymous No.17342733]

I've been obsessed with the M-m-m-m-maximum! retention lately. It's not a meme, it's the fastest way to read a book with the most amount of details and information retained. Even with books I've already read, I find new stuff.
Read a book while listening to the audiobook on say 2x speed. A decent size book would take about 3-5 hours to complete, and you legitimately retain most information and don't lose track. Highly recommend, to the point where I don't even read the book if I can't find the audiobook to it.

Anyone else do it? Are there any other methods that are better?

[Anonymous No.17342742]

>>17342645
Please don’t trigger the Nonmen.
They can get very, very emotional.

[Anonymous No.17342748]

>>17342638
I bought this because the cover looked cool. Kinda shit book though. It was basically a monster thriller film sanitised for kids

[Anonymous No.17342764]

Give me a fantasy book in which the action takes place in a world similar to the early twentieth century. Like in Fullmetal Alchemist

[Anonymous No.17342822]

>>17342764
Powder mage

It's fairly decent too

[Anonymous No.17342862]

>>17342748
That is a pretty cool cover. wouldhavepickedupatthebookfair/10

[Anonymous No.17343074]

I can't stop reading Vance bros everything else is so much longer and poorly written. Just finished The blue world and Emphyrio, pretty damn good.

[Anonymous No.17343126]

has anyone here queried a novel before? I sent my first book (sci-fi thriller/crime) out to 25 agents and the only 10 replies I received so far are all rejections. I don't think I'm a great writer and don't expect any success with a first book, but if anyone has any tips or experiences they'd like to share I'd love to hear it, I don't know anyone irl who has any experience with publishing

[Anonymous No.17343204]

HOW
I HATE
THIS THREAD

[Anonymous No.17343245]

>>17343204
based wracu poster

[Anonymous No.17343369]

>>17342645
Sounds like fucking hell. The Nonmen were crazy even before the Inchies fucked their shit up.

[Anonymous No.17343379]

>>17343245
>>17343204
The Wracu legitimately seem based as fuck. Every one of them seemed like they were just fucking bored of mortal bullshit.

[Anonymous No.17343509]

Finishing up Wise Man's Fear, going to throw something out here:

-This should be three books.

-If this man has an editor, the editor should be executed for not trimming down the repetitive shit. Otherwise he should be given an editor.

-I can tell without having to read anything else that I hate the writer personally. I do not know who he is, what race he is, what he looks like, what country he's from, but if I had to guess, he's a Canadian male feminist who virtue signals really hard on the internet to disguise the fact that he's actually abusive.

-The Cthaeh is based and redpilled. A magic tree that hates niggers and can see the future is an incredibly funny premise for a villain. What makes no sense is that people even know the tree is evil. You'd think it would go out of its way to appear benevolent so that more people want to interact with it.

[Anonymous No.17343510]

I...SMELL...

[Anonymous No.17343517]

>tfw no Sagas of the First Apocalypse

[Anonymous No.17343525]

>>17343517
there is that one short story about sheonanra and aurang flushing that one mage down the shitter

[Anonymous No.17343554]

>>17343126
Not a full novel, but I sent out tons of short stories in college with similar results if it makes you feel better.

[Anonγmous No.17343582]

I just wanna write epic poetry bros

[Anonymous No.17343652]

>>17343126
Volume. This is basically everyone's experience with publishing--you are going to be rejected a million times. Keep working on your story, keep sending your stuff out, don't be discouraged. The good ones who reject you will give you advice, and I'd advise listening to it, but don't compromise your vision.

[Anonymous No.17343723]

>>17343582
Then write epic poetry. Why are you such an attention whore? What exactly is stopping you from writing epic poetry say, right in this moment?
For example I'm writing an epic high fantasy novel that makes Sanderson look like an unassuming amateur

[Anonymous No.17343728]

PLEASE RESPOND

Clans of the Alphane Moon was a fantastic read, one of Dick's best works, imo.
>tfw Ganymedean slime mold friend

I'm reading Disciple of War right now and I'm already tired of Will + Selene's extramarital life and woes.
When does the goddam cat show up?

[Anonymous No.17343739]

>>17343728
>tfw NO Ganymedean slime mold friend*
Its absence consumes my world...

[Anonymous No.17343823]

>>17342280
Not going to lie. Book 3 is pretty shaky so far. The chapter about wolves, frog, and fish made zero sense to me.

[Anonγmous No.17343906]

The Region of Darkness is the nether region proper to Earth. As Heaven is for gods and Earth for ghosts,
so life and death proceed in cyclic succession. Fowls are born and animals die; male and female, they
multiply. Births and transformations, the male begotten of the procreative female—such is the order of
Nature, and it cannot be changed. But now appears Sun Wukong, a Heaven-born baneful monkey from the
Water-Curtain Cave in the Flower-Fruit Mountain, who practices evil and violence, and resists our proper
summons. Exercising magic powers, he utterly defeated the ghostly messengers of Ninefold Darkness;
exploiting brute force, he terrorized the Ten Merciful Kings. He caused great confusion in the Palace of
Darkness; he abrogated by force the Register of Names, so that the category of monkeys is now beyond
control, and inordinately long life is given to the simian family. The wheel of transmigration is stopped,
for birth and death are eliminated in each kind of monkey. Your poor monk therefore risks offending your
Heavenly authority in presenting this memorial. We humbly beg you to send forth your divine army and
subdue this monster, to the end that life and death may once more be regulated and the Underworld
rendered perpetually secure. Respectfully we present this memorial.

[Anonymous No.17343918]

>>17343652

thanks anon, I realize it's probably going to take a lot more writing to see any success, but none of the responses are anything but a form letter, and most agencies seem to say you won't receive a response at all if you're work isn't signed. i understand why (they get a lot of submissions), but outside of posting it online for free (which I will probably end up doing), it's tough to get good feedback

[Anonymous No.17343961]

>>17343918
Self-Publishing is not as unrealistic as it was ten years ago, but it's still a long shot. Good luck brother.

[Anonymous No.17343983]

>>17343918
What does "signed" mean in this context, like non-anonymous?

[Anonymous No.17344004]

>>17343369
>fights a war lasting 1,000 years over whose Mansion gets to call itself the House Primordial
yep, pre-Arkfall.... those were the days, baby.

[Anonymous No.17344094]

>>17344004
>Siöl.... home

[None !SFFG.n1h7M No.17344241]

>>17342638
Lock-In, Lock-In #1 - John Scalzi (2014)
The protagonist of this book was specifically designed to be an everyperson. As noted in previous Scalzi reviews, I believe this was for maximum self-insertability leading to supposedly better salability than anything else. For more info, read the below link.
https://www.torforgeblog.com/2018/04/02/hadens-chris-shane-gender-and-me/

The Great Flu killed 400 million and infected 2.75 billion. Due to its long asymptomatic incubation period it spread everywhere despite precautions. Even after recovering there was often permanent damage. 1% of the infected were afflicted with Locked-in syndrome and became known as Hadens. No reliable vaccine has been developed and 10s of millions more are infected every year. To help Hadens combat loneliness a VR simulation called Agora is developed for them to interact with each other. Personal Transports, also known as Threeps, are remote controlled androids based on C-3PO, are developed to allow them to interact with the real world. There are also people called Integrators who after having a neural net surgically implanted into their rare brain structures allows Hadens to take over their bodies.
So, basically COVID except a lot worse. Using C3PO as the basis was especially silly to me. I've read a lot of similar and for me this has to be one of the least credible depictions of how it would be, but maybe I just have too high of expectations. The integrators seemed unnecessary.

The protagonist begins their first day at the FBI, in their threep. It's also their first murder case which quickly becomes so much more than that to where it could disrupt everything everyone knows about how they live now.
There's a lot of silliness in general but it's a nice sort, for me anyway.

A bit above decent for near future sci-fi crime fiction. If you're looking for anything other more than mild fun than this isn't that. I'll be reading second/final book next.
Rating: 3.5/5

[None !SFFG.n1h7M No.17344250]

>>17344241
Head On, Lock In #2 - John Scalzi (2018)
This books claims to be a standalone, but I wouldn't say it is.
A large part of the beginning is an infodump about a sport created for this book called Hilketa, which is Basque for "murder". It's like if the NES game Base Wars was about football instead of baseball. The objective is to behead the randomly chosen threep/android and score by taking their head to the other side. Overall I felt there was too much focus on this sport in comparison to everything else.

This book features greater variation of body types, mostly by players of Hilketa, but there are mentions of androids with genitals and how none of the major manufactures want anything to do with that.

Once again there's a murder that initially doesn't seem like a murder and is part of a much larger criminal plot than is thought. The protagonist is the same. Considering how many android bodies they go through over the course of both books, it's fortunate they don't die when they are killed. Maybe the recklessness is a symptom of that though.

A decent near future crime solving science fiction novel that doesn't focus enough on the crime solving.
Rating: 3/5

[Anonymous No.17344305]

>>17343983

sorry no - what i mean is that agents will not offer feedback on your work unless they sign you as a client. most agent responses are a form rejection or radio silence; like 10% seem to be a request of a full manuscript, but even then a rejection isn't in the form of feedback but just a "no." unless they sign you as a client they aren't going to tell you what they think, what worked, what didn't, etc.

[Anonymous No.17344310]

>tfw always one thought too many

[Anonymous No.17344407]

Then, spooked by some sound, he whirled and saw the strange human-headed bird that regarded him.
"Would you like to know a secret?" a thin voice cooed. The miniature face grinned, as though finding unexpected pleasure in playing a half-hearted game.
Too numb to be terrified, the young boy nodded, clutched tight the salt that would be his fortune.
"Come closer."

What was the secret?

[Anonymous No.17344415]

Just finished Burning White.
This series sucked. The first book or two had real promise but fuck me if the last 3 aren't shit.

[Anonymous No.17344527]

>read scifi book written before 1990
>get polyamory
>get cucking
>get netorare
>get cheating
>get wife swapping

what the fuck was wrong with baby boomers?

[Anonymous No.17344555]

>>17344527
Free love is a hell of a drug

[Anonymous No.17344573]

How based is Bakker, truly?

I feel like a fucking idiot for having, for so long, missed out on such subliminal prose and character quality.

Is this the end of the road for fantasy for me? Other than Wolfe, who else is really worth reading?

[Anonymous No.17344579]

[Anonymous No.17344627]

Go to the 17th Shard and bring something back.
https://www.17thshard.com/forum/topic/93910-taravangian-development-is-it-a-good-or-bad-thing/
>some faggot sperging about the holohoax

[Anonymous No.17344696]

>>17344527
Post example so that I know which ones to avoid, please.

[Anonymous No.17344797]

>>17344696
every clarke work

[Anonymous No.17344994]

>>17344573
JK Rowling

[Anonymous No.17345179]

>>17344407
>What was the secret?
despite being only 13% of the population...

[Anonymous No.17345219]

>>17345179
are we being raided by /pol/?

>>17344407
everyone guess, because like so many things in the series, it’s never resolved.

[Anonymous No.17345366]

>>17345219
Every board and thread is always /pol/ these days.

[Anonymous No.17345370]

>>17344407
The secret of how far a boy's asshole can stretch

[Anonymous No.17345455]

uuuh so was this supposed to be good

[Anonymous No.17345499]

>>17345455
clarke was a legitimately sick and twisted person, so the book is only really interesting if you read it as a horror story and humanity's cope at having its children stolen and absorbed into a nightmarish cosmic horror while literal space demons stop anyone from opposing it

[Anonymous No.17345503]

Moenghus too autistic to bear water

Holy fuck. This read has been a drag until now. But it was fucking worth it.

The Dûnyain really are a bunch of cunts.

I honestly haven't seen too much of a difference between them and the Consult

[Anonymous No.17345511]

>>17345503
Please don’t tell him....

[Anonymous No.17345512]

>>17345455
I find this to be one of my favorite sci-fi books and Clarke's best work. But it seems a lot of people dislike it for some reason.

[Anonymous No.17345602]

>>17345511
Please don't. Just tell me this? Whatever happens. Is it in this book? If that's the case, then I'll post here later. Probably finishing it tonight.

[Anonymous No.17345640]

>>17345499

Yeah, it definitely made me feel uncomfortable and distressed, but it also felt so unexpectedly weird and outlandish and at the same time something I was half-expecting that I don't quite know how to organize my thoughts on it.

Also, I was under the impression that Clarke was more, uh, "grounded" sci-fi writer, so I wasn't expecting such a mind-blowing twist. But I guess it was dumb of me after reading Nine Billion Names of God.

>>17345512

I liked how insane it was, but at the same time I was a bit disappointed by how it all went down. I guess I'm still digesting it.

Any other scifi novels suggestions with weird twists like this? There's a few classic ones available on Kindle Unlimited (also other Clarke novels) so I'm going on a binge. I was between The End of Eternity or Valis next.

[Anonymous No.17345667]

>>17342638
Are any books by J. V. Jones worth reading?

[Anonymous No.17345861]

>>17345640
>Clarke
>grounded

Clarke is 100% faggy quasi-Luciferian inhuman British scifi.

Anything written on that isle from 1950-1979 can go in the shitbin.

[Anonymous No.17345935]

>>17342638
I'm pissed you can only find this version for sale and not the kino cover with the naked brothers running on the lawn.

[Anonymous No.17345950]

>>17345667
Cavern of Black Ice is good but the series probably won’t be finished

[Anonymous No.17345962]

>>17345935
Just go on eBay or commission someone to make it. I'm sure there's some guy on Etsy that makes custom dust jackets

[Anonymous No.17346057]

>>17345667
no, fuck no - read literally anything else

>every character is a fucking nimrod just to make the villain's plans work
>half the book is some girl blundering around her rich castle and getting her period
>male protag is utterly void of personality ("he's cute" and "he shoots gud" is as far as it goes)
>interesting clan war story? nope, the story is now about the girl
>interesting mystical uncle? sorry, the story is now about the girl
>the story is now about the girl
>you must want the girl
>why is she so special?
>what do her visions mean!??!?!
>everyone wants her BUT WHY?!!!!

i was so confused how anyone could write such a shitty and obnoxious story, focusing on the most boring shit imaginable when potentially cool shit is happening everywhere, and then i remembered that some fag from /sffg/ recommended it in the first place and everything clicked

>Julie Victoria Jones (born 1963) is a British author of fantasy.

in retrospect, the entire story is clearly written for a female audience, so if you're a woman, you'll probably enjoy it

if you're a man, go cut wood or smoke meth or something

[Anonymous No.17346111]

>>17345950
>Cavern of Black Ice is good but the series probably won’t be finished
So its basically A Song of Ice and Fire?

[Anonymous No.17346159]

>>17346111
It’s like robin hobb lite, more than anything. Suffering porn, but not as soul sucking as Hobb can be. Makes sense when you realize they’re both women.

[Anonymous No.17346163]

>>17345512
Same. I loved it and it's legitimately one of my favorites. It codified a number of now staple sci-fi elements, but Clarke's imagination makes them still feel fresh. The odd friendship between Karellen and Stormgren is so good, too.

>The metal door, twice as high as a man, was closing swiftly when he first caught sight of it-closing swiftly, yet not quite swiftly enough.

>Yes, Karellen had trusted him, had not wished him to go down into the long evening of his life haunted by a mystery he could never solve. Karellen dared not defy the unknown powers above him (were they of that same race also?) but he had done all that he could. If he had disobeyed them, they could never prove it. It was the final proof, Stormgren knew, of Karellen’s affection for him.

[Anonymous No.17346168]

>Damned after all...

[Anonymous No.17346235]

why are bakkerdragons obsessed with cunny?

[Anonymous No.17346273]

>>17344579
This hurts too much.

[Anonymous No.17346497]

>>17346235
But who ISN’T obsessed with Swayali poon?

[Anonymous No.17346523]

>>17344415
Please go into more detail. I was thinking about starting this series, and I still might because I have a high tolerance for bullshit. I just wanna know what I’m getting into.

[Anonymous No.17346554]

>>17346523
It kinda loses the plot in the 4th book. The main storyline gets sidetracked for inconsequential romance bullshit, wanders around for the entire 4th book doing nothing, then leaves the 5th book trying to tie up all the lose ends, to the point where it seems like things are getting checked off a list, instead of naturally occurring. Character arcs feel unfinished and sloppy as a result.

[Anonymous No.17346637]

Without spoiling:

Both someone in the Prologue and Aurang speak of something that is related to the crimes of men.

Am I missing something here, or are they are connected somehow?

[Anonymous No.17346670]

>>17346637
WARNING: Major Spoiler Ahead
Kellhus is an Inchoroi

[Anonymous No.17346682]

>>17346670
I didn't read, but I'll assume that there's a connection.

I'm on book 3 btw, so I don't know if that's relevant or not.

[Anonymous No.17346702]

>>17343510
HOBBITSES... (what? I don't care about cursed jewelry? they just need to wash their stinky feet! P.U.!)

[Anonymous No.17346975]

Just finished this. What did I think of it?

Seriously, I was going to read some sci-fi next to switch things up. Probably Blindsight. Anything else I should read first? My sci-fi's actually really lacking. I've read a bunch of Clarke and Asimov along with a bit of military sci-fi and a bunch of PKD's works, but that's really it.

[Anonymous No.17346991]

I FUCK SRANC

[Anonymous No.17347077]

>>17342638
So / sffg /,have you read any science fiction or fantasy books that are not in English? Are there any not available in english books that you would recommend?

[Anonymous No.17347139]

>>17346975
>on stranger tides
That was pretty good. I thought that the main story would be about Shandy getting his property back from his uncle or whatever like it sets up in the beginning, but even though it wasn't it was still good.
The only weird/bad part is that about 3 times throughout this character who hadn't been introduced had a wife who hadn't been introduced and she was all over the mc for some reason, and then they'd fight, and then they'd get back on the ship and it wouldn't come up again for like 150+ pages. I don't know what that was about.

[Anonymous No.17347200]

>>17347139
Yeah, Anne Bonnie was definitely weird. The first reason it was included was definitely just to finish off the checklist of famous pirates from the golden age. He at least mentioned every single famous one by name other than Every and Low. I did quite like his 'explanations' for otherwise very strange historical events. Other than that, I think the intention was to make it clear that Shandy didn't love Beth just because he was the only woman he had seen in months and he actually had feelings for her since he was able to turn down Bonnie. Didn't quite work, but I think that's what he was going for.

But yeah, I definitely agree. Pretty good, but a few steps short of being great.

[Anonymous No.17347334]

>>17347077
Only translated light novels. Still really like no game no life

[Anonγmous No.17347389]

>>17347334
>no game no life
ayy I've fapped to this before!

[Anonymous No.17347394]

>>17346991
Incomprehensibly based and meatpilled

[Anonymous No.17347518]

Our boy Proyas just got Sauboned

[Anonymous No.17347529]

Is there a place to get Stanisław Lem's books in english?

[Anonymous No.17347793]

>>17342764
City of Stairs

[Anonymous No.17347821]

>>17344696
Everything by Heinlein

[Anonymous No.17348006]

>>17346670
What? That makes no sense. I've read all the books. Explain yourself.

[Anonymous No.17348010]

>>17344579
>>17346273
>talking to yourself
Classic schizo. You know it's really easy to out you when you post exactly the same shit in every thread, right buddy?

[Anonymous No.17348057]

>>17347518
Pour one out for the homie Big Nersei.
https://youtu.be/4e0VvHZMaTs

[Anonymous No.17348076]

>>17348006
Did we read the same books? How did you miss that scene where Kellhus peels off his human skin-suit to reveal the Inchoroi horror beneath, right before he eats Sorweel alive?

[Anonymous No.17348230]

I just read pic related, and holy fuck. That ending fucking hurt man.
Bakker, if you're reading this, you're a fucking genius dude. I was expecting Akka to destroy everything, I felt sorry for Esmi too

I wasn't expecting it to end so abruptly. The glossary is fucking huge.

What now, do I jump directly to the Aspect Emperor trilogy? Is there a time skip too?

[Anonymous No.17348258]

>>17348010

[Anonymous No.17348267]

>>17348258
>painting over where the (You) goes
You are really bad at this lol.

[Anonymous No.17348268]

>>17348230
Whats funny is, I found it painful but hopeful... Akka was taking control he thinks for once.

[Anonymous No.17348272]

>>17348230
Jump right in while you have things still fresh in your memory and struggle through the first two books because they're not that great.
>Is there a time skip too?
Yes.

And avoid this general, for the shilling faggots are too self absorbed in their schizophrenic ways to realize they keep posting spoilers. And avoid the Prince of Nothing Wiki like the plague.

[Anonymous No.17348280]

>>17348230
maybe give it a few weeks to sink in before you jump into the AE books. or just dive in anon. they pick up 20 years later.

[Anonymous No.17348300]

>>17348076
>>17346670
nice fake spoilers, jackass.

[Anonymous No.17348324]

>>17348268
I fucking hate Kellhus and his father alike. The Dûnyain truly are a despicable bunch. I hope that Kellhus gets some pain as well.
I also wish that he wouldn't be able to grasp every single thing but whatever

>>17348272
>And avoid the Prince of Nothing Wiki like the plague.
I already do this. I just feel bad that I haven't written my onw glossary. But I think that I've already grasped the most important names, since a lot of the filler died in the war anyway.

>>17348280
Cool. Thanks!

>>17348300
Thank you for putting that to rest. I was scared for a moment

[Anonymous No.17348357]

>>17348324
>dunyain
>feeling pain

[Anonymous No.17348364]

>>17348324
>I also wish that he wouldn't be able to grasp every single thing but whatever

You have much to learn. The most important scene in the series happens in the second book. The Circumfixion holds many emanating layers, and is in some respects the central point around which all of what happens after and before revolves.

What is Serwe's Heart? Ponder this.

[Anonymous No.17348407]

>>17348364
I already re-read the first book's prologue. I can feel that there will be a lot of hidden gems during my second read.

I will just try to read everything until the 7th book without paying too much attention to every detail and re-read everything more calmly after a year or so.

As an ESL some of his terms can be rather abstract at times. The halos, when he says "reaching" or "seize".

Like you yourself "said"? There is a scene here he pulls his fucking heart out? I have no idea dude.

[Anonymous No.17348438]

>>17348267
>imagine being this new

[Anonymous No.17348449]

https://youtu.be/u8pVZ5hTGJQ

It was an early morning yesterday
I was up before the dawn
And I really have enjoyed Ishuäl
But I must be moving on

Like Prince that comes from nothing
Like a Prophet no one knows
I'm an early mornin' Dûnyain
And I must be movin' on

Now you believe in what I say
To me you're exactly as you seem
But I have to have things my own way
To keep me in my Dreams

Like a Sranc without its black seed
Like a Cish without his Fane
Just the thought of that bad Consult
Sends a shiver through my veins

And I will go on shining
Shining halos oh so gold
I'll never look behind me
‘Cause there’s a head upon a pole

Goodbye Leweth, it's been nice
Sad to leave you in the ice
Easy to grasp your point of view
Now it's time my Dreams come true

Goodbye Serwë, goodbye Babe
Wish I could tell you that you’re saved

Feel no sorrow, feel no shame
Come tomorrow, feel no pain
Sweet devotion (Goodbye Cnaiür)
It's not for me (Goodbye Dad)
Just give me Gnosis (Think I’m goin’)
To set me free (Goin’ mad)
Towards the gold Horns (Feel no sorrow)
Far away (Feel no shame)
It's the life I've chosen (Come tomorrow)
Every day (Feel no pain)

[Anonymous No.17348478]

>>17348268
I was just thinking.

If I was Akka I would just throw a coin in the fucking air every time I made a decision.

Kellhus would have to stick his ThousandFold Fhought up his ass then.

[Anonymous No.17348684]

Do the Culture books get better? Read the first one and it was okay I guess, but it didn't really pull me in.

Alternately, what's some good Sci-Fi?

[Anonymous No.17348699]

>>17348684
>what's some good Sci-Fi?
Lurk this thread and the previous thread and several threads of the past, newfriend.

[Anonymous No.17348748]

>>17348684
The first one is the worst, the second is simplistic but shorter, the next 5 after that are kino, the last three are an old man playing around with a box of toys but they're fun to read.

[Anonymous No.17348759]

>>17348748
Guess I'll keep going with it then.

[Anonymous No.17349199]

>>17343204
I
SMELL
C U N N Y

[Anonymous No.17349240]

I've been wanting to get back into Michael Moorcock's work. I've only read Elric of Melniboné, quite a few years ago. What are you guys favorites in the series? Which books are skippable?

[Anonymous No.17349272]

>>17349240
Old school dark elf aesthetics are kino

[Anonymous No.17349282]

>>17344573
he really is tragically underrated. Ive never read any fantasy as based sp im back to reading garbage. I get a similar feeling with sci fi and blindopraxia. Certainly i dont think there are any living authors who can compete.

[Anonymous No.17349296]

>>17345503
what hes referring to does not happen in that book but i remember the moengus reveal being fantastic as well.

[Anonymous No.17349306]

>>17345503
Bakkers books can be a slog at times, sometimes literally, but it always pays off imo.

[Anonymous No.17349424]

>>17344573
>>subliminal prose
>>character quality

are you talking about the 1,000th mention of massively erect phalluses or the black alien seed or the intentional nonsensical ramblings about poorly-understood philosophy? crash space of meaning? semantic apocalypse?

or are you instead referring to kelhus as the uber gary stu or cucked akka as the pathetic bakker insert? perhaps you mean the dozen princes/knights/kings who all blur together?

there's some really interesting nuggets in his books and the core of a great story, but his prose is bad and he's only crawled further up his butthole and the work product has gotten worse since he started publishing.

[Anonymous No.17349438]

>>17345602
read the entire aspect-emperor follow-up series

[Anonymous No.17349478]

>>17342638
thought it was a cool spin on wonderland in 7th grade, basically hadnt read anything but harry potter at that point

[Anonymous No.17349482]

>>17349478

[Anonymous No.17349487]

>>17349306
the slog of slogs! c'mon boys!

[Anonymous No.17349519]

>>17349424
Why are you responding to the resident Bakker autist? He makes these posts every single thread, always posting some wojack or pepe image.

[Anonymous No.17349540]

>>17349519
This whole thread is nothing but the bakkerfag autistically spamming again. He must have lost his medication since the last thread was relatively free of his sperg antics.

[Anonymous No.17349547]

>Madness!

[Anonγmous No.17349581]

I just want a mahou shoujo gf

[Anonymous No.17349593]

i just love earthsea bros.

[Anonymous No.17349654]

>>17343074
Have you read through the tschai books?
Feels good.
I think the only modern author that comes close to the comfy vance gives off is zelazny.

[Anonymous No.17349703]

>>17349540
>Nooo stop liking what I don’t like!

[Anonymous No.17349770]

>>17348438
>not even denying it
I aCcEpT yOuR dEfEaT ;^*

[Anonymous No.17349791]

>open fantasy book
>no map in the front
>close the book and throw it away

[Anonymous No.17349830]

>>17349791
>no map in the book
>wonder why
>eventually figure out that the character has no clue where the fuck everything is and if you take not of all the directions he's given and gets given none of them add up
>at some point he buys a map
>map printed on next page

[Anonymous No.17349834]

>>17349830
sounds like some litrpg shit
you haven't been reading litrpg have you anon

[Anonymous No.17349837]

>>17349834
I was just making it up anon

[Anonymous No.17349838]

>>17349830
Name one. Genuinely curious.

[Anonymous No.17349997]

>“Things …” he murmurs to the panorama, “are simple.”
>“The madness worsens?”
>He looks back to the boy. “Yes.”

[Anonymous No.17350040]

I just finished Nightfall by Asimov. It was alright, I liked End of Eternity a lot more.
What should I read next? I don't read books and I'm too unacquainted with fiction in general to pick for myself.

[Anonymous No.17350048]

>just started the forever war
>thought all the free love shit in the militairy was extremely jarring but everything else has been pretty interesting
>mfw i just got to the end of his first tour and he comes home to find earth is now ruled by the UN who enforces homosexuality, there's trannies everywhere, everyone lives in pods and eats the bugs

what a goddamn nightmare, i did not know much about this book going in but I definitely did not expect this uncomfortably accurate dystopian hellworld

[Anonymous No.17350139]

>reading Bakker
>notice a new expression used in passing a few times in a row
>guy has clearly been ransacking the thesaurus since the start, but more noticeably in the last 300 pages or more
>search "in sooth" (which means "in truth" btw) in the previous 5 books (roughly 3000 pages)
>0 results
>search in current tome and sequel
>dozen+ occurrences
Why not keep using "in truth" or "truthfully" or anything that isn't as conspicuous?
I have an eye for this shit and I hate it when this happens. Why don't writers realize they do this?
It's as if you were reading ASOIAF and every leather jerkin suddenly became a boiled leather jerkin in the 4th book onwards.

[Anonymous No.17350174]

>>17350139
'In sooth' is used all the time in Tolkien and also in the KJV; it's well known archaic speech marker. This is an element of writing style, anon. Not everything has to be glib Sanderson style valley girl speak.

[Anonymous No.17350246]

>>17350174
Who the fuck cares who used it. I don't care if he looked it up in a dictionary or suddenly picked it up from the Bible or if the word fell from the sky.
The question is why is it nowhere to be found in the preceding tens of hundreds of pages where "in truth" or "truthfully" are used dozens of times without a second thought? They're pretty much the same characters speaking or ruminating, the same languages, the same speech and expressions, and the same narrator. How does it not speak poorly of the writer who didn't think of using that word earlier?

[Anonymous No.17350258]

What does /sffg/ think of The Expanse book series?

[Anonymous No.17350265]

>>17350246
>>17350139
Was it introduced by a particular character who didn't exist previously? That is weird.
>>17350174
You missed what Anon was saying.

[Anonymous No.17350308]

posting some gems from Bakker's now-suspended twitter account...

>Jul 5/10
An author’s blog is like a peek up a transvestite’s skirt. Instead of something special, all you find is another dick.
>Sep 4/10
Having a blog is like having a second dick: the more fun you have with it, the more people will think you’re a wanker.
>Feb 3/11
Blog: something you drop in the can every morning, only with a ‘b’ in front of it.
>Jun 29/11
Human: A biological system connecting the dinner plate to the shitter.
Writer: A biological system convinced that it does more than simply connect the dinner plate to the shitter. See, Flatulance.
>what did he mean by this?

[Anonymous No.17350328]

I figure I'll post here, rather than starting a new thread and killing some random one.

I'm reading Dune for the first time, and was trying to get what Herbert meant by this quote (saying that Jessica probably kept it in mind).

"Any road followed precisely to its end leads precisely nowhere. Climb the mountain just a little bit to test that it's a mountain. From the top of the mountain, you cannot see the mountain. "

[Anonymous No.17350363]

>>17350174
It only occurs twice in Lord of the Rings, and neither of those are "in sooth", just occurrences of "sooth".

[Anonymous No.17350448]

>>17350328
I don't remember the context but I guess it's a paradox about the perils of being too narrowminded in your journey, how you should look not just ahead to the culmination of either quests but for worthier quests that could be just as hard, or even to the next quest. And if it comes from Jessica, it must also be about being quick and adaptable. You know that when you follow some road or climb a mountain you'll get to the end and to the top eventually. You might not need to climb or follow through to know that. The second part refers to losing your perspective when it's too late.

[Anonymous No.17350450]

>>17343126

Just self publish on Amazon m8. Be sure that you edit all writing mistakes out before, or preferably have someone take a look at it, someone who you know has a good grasp of orthography. Maybe even be a book worm.

[Anonymous No.17350474]

>>17350328
>>17350448
It means that if you analyze and deconstruct a social behavior or phenomenon too much, you arrive at nothing.
Study a social construct enough to exploit it, but not so much that it becomes an abhorrent falsehood to you. Study a fable enough to learn from it, but not so much that it ceases to be a fable. Understand that the world of social and philosophical interaction is circular and self-supporting, so don't keep digging to find the bedrock or you'll find yourself with no ground to stand on.

[Anonymous No.17350553]

>>17342638
Somewhat in keeping with the thread topic, I've been trying and failing to find a fantasy book that I read in middle school, the issue is I don't remember it very clearly.
It was a fairly standard young-MC-gets-whisked-away-to-fantasy-land-for-adventure kind of affair. All I've got other than that are some events/plot points that I vaguely remember:
-there's a sequence where people are traveling through a forest where the trees are bigger than skyscrapers (there may or may not have been travel routes across the tops of the branches themselves)
-at one point they find a giant who turns out to just be a confused toddler who was magically enlarged
-the MC enters an archery contest with a slingshot (I don't remember if he wins or not)

Ring a bell to anyone? It was a supremely comfy read, but I was 12 so I don't know if it was actually any good.

[Anonymous No.17350570]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3wk7C64kaP4&ab_channel=SmashingPumpkinsVEVO

zerogod

[Anonymous No.17350622]

>>17350308
Why was his account suspended?

[Anonymous No.17350643]

>>17349424
>>17349519
>>17349540
Sorry Sandersoys. This is an anime free zone.

[Anonymous No.17350647]

>>17350622
Someone probably noticed the first tweet in that list

[Anonymous No.17350681]

>>17347077
I've read pic related because someone posted it here. Quite enjoyable actually but I'm not sure it's been translated. Also I guess the Jules verne in school count but I don't really like them.

[Anonymous No.17350697]

>>17342638
What would you say is China Mieville's best work?

[Anonymous No.17350783]

>>17347077
Leopoldo Lugones has a bunch of very Borgesian short stories (one about some Greeks that encounter Achilles) and others inspired by Welles.

This one by Mujica Lainez is pretty decent. I think it made it to that ghastly top 100 fantasy novels from Times.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Wandering_Unicorn

[Anonymous No.17350852]

>>17350697
he does weird well. probably perdido street station or embassytown depending on whether you want fantasy or sf.

[Anonymous No.17350860]

>it's a other simp Sorweel episode

[Anonymous No.17350911]

>>17350258
It's alright, but like with your pic related TV show actually elevated some characters with good casting. Novels jump the shark with a certain timeskip, though.

[Anonymous No.17351036]

>>17350643
>mfw most of those posters hate Sanderson too
This. This is what it means to have brainworms living rent free in that gray slop you call a brain.

[Anonymous No.17351096]

I'm about to read either Black Company or The Darkness That Comes Before. Which one to start with?

Also, I just finished Cradle, how are the rest of Wight's books? Worth reading even if I mostly care about the characters and not the universe at large?

[Anonymous No.17351123]

>>17351036
Sanderson is this way >>>/a/

I would say take your meds, but you’re beyond redemption when you spend 250 dollars on a Sanderson book.

[Anonymous No.17351137]

>>17351036
>”muh rent freeee”
Since you’ll probably never leave, you could at least answer with some original memes.

>>17350647
What did he tweet?

[Anonymous No.17351156]

>>17351123
Stay mad faggot.

[Anonymous No.17351186]

>>17351096

darkness

[Anonymous No.17351205]

>>17351096
>I'm about to read either Black Company or The Darkness That Comes Before. Which one to start with?
What are you looking for in these books?

[Anonymous No.17351229]

>>17349540
there are in fact many bakkerfags im one but ive only made a few posts itt

[Anonymous No.17351236]

>>17351205
A good story, simply.

[Anonymous No.17351243]

>NOO YOU CAN'T JUST READ BAKKER, THERE ISN'T A SHRED OF COMMON DECENCY OR HUMANITY IN THESE CHARACTERS.. THEY ARE TOO MEAN...

[Anonymous No.17351252]

I can't wait to finish my fantasy novel, frens. I've been writing a ton lately, feeling really inspired and cranking out the story. I think I'm going to self-publish rather than beg a middleman to do it for me.

Hell, I might even start up a small press if I can find the capital, and publish other interesting, boundary-pushing, well-crafted literary fantasy work anonymously or under pseudonyms.
It just might end up being the biggest thing in fantasy since Bakker, if the Gods favor my foolish pursuit.

[Anonymous No.17351257]

>>17350697
The City and the City

[Anonymous No.17351261]

I can't wait to finish my fantasy novel, frens. I've been writing a ton lately, feeling really inspired and cranking out the story. I think I'm going to self-publish rather than beg a middleman to do it for me.

Hell, I might even start up a small press if I can find the capital, and publish other interesting, boundary-pushing, well-crafted literary fantasy work anonymously or under pseudonyms.
I know it's unique, it's unlike anything else that's out there. And it just might end up being the biggest thing in fantasy since Bakker, if the fickle Gods favor my foolish pursuit. It will certainly be better than Rothfuss, I can assure you of that.

[Anonymous No.17351267]

>>17351236
If you want you can only read the first Black Company book. It has an open ending, but works just fine on its own.

[Anonymous No.17351268]

>>17351267
Why wouldn't I continue with the series?

[Anonymous No.17351274]

>>17351268
To find out whether you like it or not. Of course, problem with the second is its totally different so that may not apply to TBC.

[Anonymous No.17351311]

>>17351096
the rest of wights books have been mediocre imo. I enjoy cradle but didnt like his other books at all

[Anonymous No.17351321]

>>17347394
In all seriousness though, I think having a sranc gf is the /fit/ dream basically.
>cute face, sranc have very beautiful faces canonically
>short haired tomboy (bald)
>likes fighting so she'll probably cuddle-fight a lot
>very high sexual appetite, she'll dry your nuts raw
>is probably into kinky stuff
>thin and athletic, she'll beat you in any marathon
>will enjoy your cooking even if you feed her worms
>religious (worships the No-god)
>fertile, she'll give you a lot of babies
I can't think of any downside to having a sranc gf

[Anonymous No.17351338]

>>17351321
Aren’t their feet weird?

[Anonymous No.17351354]

>>17351229
I’m stating to think that the Sandersoy is the real schizo here.

[Anonymous No.17351375]

>>17351354
>didn't read the post you're replying to

[Anonymous No.17351380]

>>17351375
>reading comprehension

[Anonymous No.17351473]

>>17351338
>feet
Only a downside if you're a footfag

[Anonymous No.17351520]

>>17350697
>China Mieville
how can someone write like that and yet be insufferable as a person?

[Anonymous No.17351593]

>>17351261
>I think I'm going to self-publish rather than beg a middleman to do it for me.

implying you could i

[Anonymous No.17351692]

>>17351096
>Black Company or The Darkness That Comes Before

Bakker if you want grimdark.

Cook if you want "grimdark".

[Anonymous No.17351720]

>>17351261
I will pay for it if you give us the first chapter for free and I like it.

You people are way too shy with regards to self promotion. I would very much enjoy to read the stuff that /sffg/ writes. People say that the genre is saturated but I entirely disagree. There’s way too much shit on the market, that’s the problem.

It’s not like you’re F.Gardner who shamelessly promotes his trash here.

[Anonymous No.17351735]

>>17351692
I'll never understand why Black Company even gets branded as grimdark. Especially these days. You'd think it by looking at the premise, but it really isn't.

[Anonymous No.17351757]

>>17351720
>You people are way too shy with regards to self promotion.
I'm very reticent to shill myself on 4chins, anons here are shitty for the sake of being shitty. There's only so many times you get called a fag before you get your fill. I only posted on the story thread in /tg/ to relative success, but /sffg/ and /lit/ in general is too caustic to have any real conversation in. I'd rather not, desu. Actually, I'd avoid the 4chan and reddit crowd. I'm only sharing with my irl friends and if they want to share further with people they know. Otherwise the internet is just sucky.

[Anonymous No.17351760]

>>17351757
fag

[Anonymous No.17351771]

What are wind stills?

[Anonymous No.17351785]

The characters should always be the ones driving the plot forward and not the other way around.

[Anonymous No.17351817]

The fetishes should always be the things driving the story forward and not the other way around.

[Anonymous No.17351818]

>>17351785
>modern fantasy reader

[Anonymous No.17351819]

>>17342638

Unrelated, but my 70+ years old proof reader who is female said she really liked my sci-fi script.
Wagtmi!

[Anonymous No.17351916]

>>17351771
At a guess, probably like windmills but they're stills that harvest water from the air somehow.

[Anonymous No.17352180]

>>17347077
Recent reads/rereads:

>Czech
Karel Čapek's works are classics and have been translated to every language under the sun, but The Absolute at Large in the original Czech is still one of the best works of satire I've ever read. A poignant and funny takedown of communism, nationalism, and religion at the same time.
The Listener series (Naslouchač): A recent local best-seller. Really cool post-apocalyptic worldbuilding starring a slave teenager who works up to become a weapons sharpener/smith for a band of elite warriors. Kind of YA-ish, but it works.
Meta: Another local SF hit. A psychological thriller masquerading as a grounded and realistic take on what would happen if people started manifesting superpowers in today's world. /lit/ would have a fit if they ever read it because it features a flawed, but also multifaceted, strong and resourceful female protagonist.

>Japanese
Got around to reading the Night Head series, a 90s cult hit about a pair of psychic siblings on the run. Feels a bit dated due to the contemporary New Age/conspiracy themes which also don't land very well, but the psychological character work is excellent and it deftly avoids the vast majority of shitty Japanese writing tropes.

[Anonymous No.17352380]

The dust settled like sand kicked in a tidal pool, baring details that seemed nude for the brilliance of the sun and the dark contrast of the Shroud rearing beyond. Golgotterath lay exposed before them, like the skull of some mountain-headed beast, half-buried in desolation, only one great antler remaining …

One Horn.

The School of Mandate had made fetishes of many things, for theirs had always been a desperate cause, and the desperate were forever bent on anchoring their preposterous hopes with more tangible items. But the Horns of Golgotterath had been their one and only idol, the image they had perpetually prayed against. For it was always there, a shadow thrown across the curve of the entire World, lingering on the extremis of every glance, every gaze, no matter how trivial or epic the occasion, a memory of horror that had become horror, a leering token of itself.

A symbol of terror that was terror, distilled and embodied.

And it had been broken …
LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[Anonymous No.17352412]

>>17352380
ONE HORN

[Anonymous No.17352465]

>>17348407
Good plan. I hope you eventually like how it ends. It took me a few months to process it or so.

He really gets you, the bastard. I won't say more.

[Anonymous No.17352476]

>>17342638
if you want the real /childhood/ reads, pic related was the first horror sci-fi i ever read

[Anonymous No.17352504]

>>17352380
>And when you walk in golden halls
>You get to keep the gold that falls
>Fool, fool! You've got to bleed for the dancer.

[Anonymous No.17352541]

is there a decent amount of characterization or personal introspection within the protagonists of the wheel of time series ?
i like my fantasy intermingling with philosophical concepts and the whole human condition question as opposed to the world building if that makes sense (not that i cant appreciate that stuff).
it seems a big investment to make otherwise.
for reference, fantasy like got and berserk i find highly enjoyable because its magic shit mixed with relatively realistic humans with equal weight given to said humans and their relationships as well as the magic, demons and dragons etc.

[Anonymous No.17352573]

>>17352541
The Wheel of Time is bland. In every single aspect. I cannot think of a single worse adjective to characterize a series. You will never see anyone here ranting about the wheel of time because it’s utterly irrelevant and forgettable.

[Anonymous No.17352578]

>>17350308
Sold me on Bakker right there.

[Anonymous No.17352586]

TUC SPOILERS!!!


The surprise was all but complete. The sorcerous lights—and the scenes of riot they struck from the hip of blindness—disappeared across the Black Furnace Plain. The flesh of kings and their captains lay spilled as treasure and splendour at the feet of the Derived, meat for their rapacious hungers.

So did the Great Ordeal of Anasûrimbor Kellhus perish in salt and butchery.

rather a sudden ending

[Anonymous No.17352596]

>>17352573
but every fantasy book reviewer ive watched talk about it said its "second only to lord of the rings in impact and quality of storytelling to the genre"
i just want to know if it has decent character introspection from any anons who have read it here i guess

[Anonymous No.17352602]

>>17350308
That's actually based, kek.

[Anonymous No.17352608]

>>17350308
>Blog: something you drop in the can every morning, only with a ‘b’ in front of it
???

[Anonymous No.17352611]

>>17351720
Thanks fren. I’d be happy to post the first chapter once I’ve polished it up a bit. You’re right that the market is not oversaturated with quality work but rather inundated with mindless trash. I am really aiming to write something quite unique and literary minded, not generic Tolkien clone #482677-B. I have very limited understanding of self-publishing, but I gather it offers the author more freedom than going the traditional route.

And yes, I’ve posted passages in /sffg/ previously, and they were eviscerated. Some of the critique I assume was just typical 4ch vitriol, but some points have been quite helpful in shaping my style and characters. I’ll post another passage soon for you frens, and you can eviscerate me again.

[Anonymous No.17352612]

[Anonymous No.17352624]

>>17351520
He's a commie. They're all insufferable. You can be a good artist and a smoothbrain concurrently.

[Anonymous No.17352626]

>>17352586
Please delete this and spoiler the whole thing,... It’s really inconsiderate to anyone reading who might want to eventually read the series.

[Anonymous No.17352633]

>>17352608
>blog
>remove the b
>log
hes equating celebrity blogs being in similar quality to the shit you drop into the toilet

[Anonymous No.17352634]

I would literally suck bakers ick he is so friggen based, wish we had a pixmor intetvieq from his wife

[Anonymous No.17352640]

>>17352626
sorry bro i meant to i was druk (watch another round)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_JaCb1K6ns&ab_channel=FanshaweTube

[Anonymous No.17352655]

>>17352633
Thanks fren. I’m an ESL so not exactly familiar with the term log being used to describe shit.

I also don’t shit every morning.

[Anonymous No.17352682]

>>17352612
>books not in chronological order
>no first trilogy
>stephen kingshit
damned after all....

[Anonymous No.17352699]

>>17352612
>king
Should've had Watts there instead desu

[Anonymous No.17352734]

>>17352682
>>17352699

[Anonymous No.17352747]

>>17351916
Does this make sense in context? Most of these other things are about spreading the Fremen religion across the universe, not collecting water.

[Anonymous No.17352761]

>that scene where Mimara grows a penis and rapes Achamian

really caught me off guard, but it was so well written that I still got a boner

[Anonymous No.17352807]

>>17347077
Only the first book of Sapkowski's Hussite trilogy is translated and that translation is so fucking bad I don't even consider the book "available in English."
>filled with errors, plurals changed to singulars and singulars to plural
>all wordplay either translated literally or so loosely as to be unrecognizeable
>translate the names of german nobility, so Adela von Stercza becomes Adela of Stercza
>refuse to use fucking apostraphes, creating sentences such as "the hands of Adela of Stercza"

They butchered a perfectly good book and I'm still mad.

[Anonymous No.17352812]

>>17352761
NEVER happened

[Anonymous No.17352859]

Fuck E William Brown

[Anonymous No.17352869]

>>17352812
>he can't read between the lines

lmao

[Anonymous No.17353051]

>>17352655
yes thats fair, both log and can are americanisms for saying shit and toilet respectively

[Anonγmous No.17353067]

chinkshit WILL inherit the title of fantasy king

[Anonymous No.17353093]

how can i know that my book depository order arrived? it was dispatched 2 days ago

[Anonymous No.17353149]

>>17351819
>Wagtmi
Surprisingly I was only able to find this abbreviation being used on any board on 4chan once before, in 2014, with a quick search.

[Anonymous No.17353397]

Do you ever re-read long series?
I finished Malazan as audiobooks a while ago and I feel like I missed a ton of shit. I really liked the books, but reading the whole series again feels like a massive undertaking and I still have a bunch of other shit I want to read.

[Anonymous No.17353460]

>>17352596
a couple of characters perhaps but largely, no. I like the series because I got into it as a teen and it contributed to my development as a reader but I find it hard to believe that people could place it anywhere near lord of the rings.

[Anonymous No.17353465]

>>17353397
NGMI

[Anonymous No.17353565]

Was Lord Kosoter a larper, or had he really been to hell?

[Anonymous No.17353680]

rent free :^)

[Anonymous No.17353887]

>>17353565
He was a decapitant, I think.

Or, just a veteran who crossed the desert. That was hell.

[Anonymous No.17354068]

black company 4-11
prince of nothing 1-3
malazan 1-10
gaunt's ghosts 2-14
new sun 1-4
mistborn 1-3
elric 1-9

which do i read first ?

[Anonymous No.17354086]

>>17353565
He was like Cnauir. Someone so utterly vicious he was practically a walking topos

[Anonymous No.17354089]

What was that book about AIs trying to reproduce the Peloppenesian War?

[Anonymous No.17354092]

>>17354068
>black company 4-11
Haven't read.
>prince of nothing 1-3
Best series I've ever read.
>malazan 1-10
Solid series.
>gaunt's ghosts 2-14
Never read.
>new sun 1-4
Not bad, but slightly overrated.
>mistborn 1-3
YA vanilla fantasy.
>elric 1-9
Don't know.

[Anonymous No.17354196]

Looking for three books I read a long time ago, just out of curiosity.
The one is set in a fantasy world. The main character is a former guardsman/soldier who was fired for some reason. The guards have one or two marks under their eyes, and a third strike means they've been kicked out and everyone who sees their face knows it. So everyone knows he's scum, he can't get a decent job, and every scum wants to beat him up or kill him because he basically used to be a cop. Gods are really and their strength is based on the worship of believers and the actions of all people. So during wars for example the war god is super powerful even if not many people sacrifice to him, because war's going on. The god of thievery is a character and mentions that there were a few days after a really one sided peace treaty that he was the most powerful god because it was basically a steal.
The other book is about a girl and three or four other teenagers with weird powers who live in an academy in the middle of the wilderness. There are no other kids there and they're all taught together by the teachers. One thing that stands out is the main character gets spanked by the principal for trying to escape (I think) and it turns her on (I think?).
The third was written in the late 80s to mid 90s for sure. Four or five friends get trapped in some kind of massive building with staircases and ladders leading nowhere or just meeting up on platforms for no reason. Conflicts develop and shit. I completely forget how it ends or any other elements of the story.
Not much to go on I know but I read them 10-15 (maybe 17 in the case of the third) years ago so excuse my retardation.

[Anonymous No.17354249]

>>17354068
elric books are super short.
people get sick of the comparisons but if you like simple, quick, vanilla fantasy stories with an anaemic albino twink go for elric.
it's not ground-breaking "witcher ripped this off" legendary storytelling like that one angry guy and youtube said it was though.

[Anonymous No.17354485]

>>17350697
October, unironically.

[Anonymous No.17354492]

>>17352624
proof positive that good at is demonic possession and artists are empty headed vessels for the perfect tragic beauty of the fallen immortals.

[Anonymous No.17354514]

>t. bakkerfags

[Anonymous No.17354537]

[Anonymous No.17354604]

>>17354537
Do you get to fuck the one on the left? Hopefully by cucking or cockblocking the one on the right?

[Anonymous No.17354616]

>>17354537
Why does the one on the right look like they will be force fed whoremoan pills later on and used like a bitch in heat?

[Anonymous No.17354631]

>>17354514
>t. sandersoys

[Anonymous No.17354647]

>>17354086
There is Ilium/Olympos by Dan Simmons but that is about the trojan war.

[Anonymous No.17354652]

>>17354089
There is Ilium/Olympos by Dan Simmons but that is about the trojan war.

[Anonymous No.17354653]

Since hornyposting is clearly back, how do I write a good smut science fiction novel about a human who has sex with various aliens?

[Anonymous No.17354658]

>>17354631
>BEHOLD. I AM THYNE SANDARO

[Anonymous No.17354741]

>Sanderson
>Prose

[Anonymous No.17354805]

>>17354741
How can SDF unironically defend this as being about an experiment in characters speaking different languages when
>or something
>so he seemed to be enjoying the ride
is in the narration?

[Anonymous No.17354822]

>>17354652
>simmons
I like Hyperion and all, but reading Ilium made me think that, short of people writing actual smut, he is probably one of the horniest popular authors. At least in sci-fi.

[Anonymous No.17354847]

>>17349593
What do they eat??

[Anonymous No.17354852]

>>17349482
I can't believe that middle school starwarsfag me didn't realize how much of a battle droid ripoff those card soldiers were, holy shit

[Anonymous No.17354890]

>>17354092
>prince of nothing 1-3
>Best series I've ever

>new sun 1-4
>Not bad, but slightly overrated.

Kek so this is the power of Bakker posters

[Anonymous No.17354898]

>>17354890
Wolfe is good, but he is overrated.

Not sure what's so controversial about that.

[Anonymous No.17355069]

>>17354898
Nothing controversial, just funny that the same person saying that prince of nothing is the best serie ever needs to point out that Wolfe is overrated.

[Anonymous No.17355070]

Any good sci-fi/fantasy books centered around people deep diving in lakes and oceans? Preferably something horror related.

[Anonymous No.17355074]

>>17355069
lol

I read both BOTNS and Bakker before /lit/ ever heard of them

Wolfe does in one chapter what Bakker takes five to do. There's no comparison.

[Anonymous No.17355102]

>>17355074
>Wolfe does in one chapter what Bakker takes five to do. There's no comparison.
What exactly does this imply? I don't see a problem with painting one's universe using different characters.
This only becomes a serious problem if you go full Sanderson, which is outright incompetence.

My only gripe with Wolfe is the excessive surrealism.

[Anonymous No.17355127]

>>17355102
Sanderson is really, really proficient at what he does, which is to relentlessly churn out platter for the public he's found. The good thing about Prince of Nothing is that its Old Testament/Illiad inspiration forces the bakk to constrain and economize on his prose, I found his cyberpunk story that was posted in another thread borderline unreadable.

[Anonymous No.17355148]

>>17355102
>My only gripe with Wolfe is the excessive surrealism.
Different strokes. I love that shit.

[Anonymous No.17355310]

>>17354652
Thanks.

Sweet Sejenus, I love Mucha.

[Anonymous No.17355588]

>>17333333
.......

[Anonymous No.17355614]

I need MOAR gri books.
The roasties have been getting into my SFFG books, I can't find the basics of great literature in large amounts any longer.

[Anonymous No.17355788]

curse sandaro!

[Anonymous No.17355810]

>>17355788
Leave my favourite writer alone!!!!!!!!

[Anonymous No.17355874]

>t. bakkerfags

[Anonymous No.17355948]

>>17350570
my favorite song by them
what are you referencing?

[Anonymous No.17356033]

>>17354822
You never read Peter F. Hamilton. The Nightdawn trilogy makes almost everything else look tame sex wise.

[Anonymous No.17356053]

>>17355874
very unironically me and my buddies back in highschool

[Anonymous No.17356064]

>>17355874
>blind guardian
good taste. id hangout with them

[Anonymous No.17356115]

>>17355874
I am sorry bring it up to you, but that’s not how the t.(name) meme is used.

[Anonymous No.17356138]

>>17354514
>>17355874
>”look mum, I did it again!!!!!!”

[Anonymous No.17356155]

These guys have been eye-fucking Golgotterrath for the past six chapters HOLY FUCK GET TO THE POINT I DONT CARE ABOUT YOUR POETRY

[Anonymous No.17356172]

>>17356115
You don't get to decide how memes are used.

[Anonymous No.17356194]

>>17356155
>not basking in the trance of bakker’s hypnotic poetics
>reading him just for the plot
anon, i...

[Anonymous No.17356197]

So Cnauir is gay right?

[Anonymous No.17356207]

>>17356197
Brilliant work, Holmes.

[Anonymous No.17356214]

>>17356172
No, but I certainly get to laugh at how much of a newfag you are.

[Anonymous No.17356224]

>>17356197
Do you really think the Breaker-of-horses-and-men, the most violent of men, would be gay?

[Anonymous No.17356229]

>>17356197
More like Bisexual or bicurious. Kellhus’s father cross-dressed most likely.

[Anonymous No.17356246]

>>17354537
>>17354658
>>17354741
>THEY'RE SO MAD I KEEP POSTING ABOUT THIS AUTHOR I PHYSICALLY CAN'T STAND OR SEEM TO EVEN STOP THINKING ABOUT, HAVE I TOLD YOU HIS PROSE IS SHIT IN THE LAST HOUR? BECAUSE IT IS! FUCKING RETARDS READING THINGS I DON'T PERSONALLY APPROVE OF. ANOTHER UNFLATTERING PIC OF THE AUTHOR OUGHT TO SHOW THEM XD
Why do you project this hard?

[Anonymous No.17356248]

>>17356194
Bitch I know I good prose looks like. Bakker has his moments and some good quotable, bust vast swaths of it are utterly skippable. He shines more in other places.

[Anonymous No.17356257]

>>17354805
>how can this bit of narration be about experimenting with spoken language?
It can't, because narration and inner monologue are not spoken languages. Keep up.

[Anonymous No.17356271]

>>17354068
>black company 4-11
Haven't read past the 2nd book
>prince of nothing 1-3
Good and you'll have no shortage of people to discuss it with in these threads
>malazan 1-10
Great but once you start its hard to stop and that is a big commitment
>gaunt's ghosts 2-14
haven't read
>new sun 1-4
Still my favorite SFF books
>mistborn 1-3
kind of anime
>elric 1-9
haven't read

[Anonymous No.17356284]

>>17356246
Lol

You’re the one projecting here, buddy.

[Anonymous No.17356288]

>>17356229
I always thought cnauir was the bottom

[Anonymous No.17356306]

>>17356288
That would something not even a Dunyain would be able to do.

[Anonymous No.17356312]

>So... you constantly Bakkerpost in /sffg/? That’s kind of fucking hot, Anon....

[Anonymous No.17356325]

>>17356312
I will teach you the Gnosis...

[Anonymous No.17356352]

>>17356312
I SMELL

[Anonymous No.17356357]

>>17356306
yeah I don't think there's a ton of proof either way, but it would be more shameful and degrading

[Anonymous No.17356374]

>>17356197
Does it count as gay if whatever you're fucking doesn't have a soul?

[Anonymous No.17356394]

>>17356197
Pretty sure he bottomed for moe, which is part of why he was so fixated on him, and why is gay lust becomes so much violent after moe betrays and leaves him.

>We wander the trackless steppe...

[Anonymous No.17356409]

After what he did to proyas, do you honestly believe he was a bottom?

[Anonymous No.17356411]

>>17350048
Forever War is a great fucking book, easily in my top 10

[Anonymous No.17356420]

>>17356312
Stop your tongue, Consult abomination!

[Anonymous No.17356434]

>>17350553
Guys help, I need to recapture the feeling

[Anonymous No.17356478]

How do I get a vocabulary like Bakker bros?

[Anonymous No.17356488]

>>17356246
>Getting baited this hard every single thread

[Anonymous No.17356494]

>>17356434
wish i could help buddy but it’s not ringing any bells

[Anonymous No.17356495]

>>17356478
You read.

[Anonymous No.17356499]

>>17356495
I read every day, it doesn't help.

[Anonymous No.17356514]

>>17356284
>NO U!
>>17356488
It's not even bait when he can't help but make the same posts in every single thread. At that point it's obsession, and I feel it necessary to point out his retarded ass needs a hobby he actually likes instead of a crusade against shit he both hates and literally can't stop thinking about. Probably meds, too.

[Anonymous No.17356517]

>>17349240
I've been reading the Elric saga all last year and this year. My favorites are The Vanishing Tower, Bane of the Black Sword, the beginning of Sailors on the Seas of Fate, and Elric of Melnibone. Just started Stormbringer.

[Anonymous No.17356531]

>>17352747
anon, a retort is a device used in distillation. The next sentence is religious things.
>wind stills
I think they're moisture traps, basically taking the 0.01% humidity out of the air.
Very thinly separated layers of fabric that allow air to pass through, but not moisture (at the inside portion), forcing it to condense. Either I read this in dune, or some sort of dune clone.

[Anonymous No.17356539]

>>17350258
Dunno yet, I started to listen to the audiobook. Some space ship core got nurgled and some dude is lusting after some nigerian woman. Not sure if I will like it, some good, some bad.

[Anonymous No.17356563]

>>17351096
Read first the first Black Company book for Soulcatcher, after that, whatever.

[Anonymous No.17356575]

>>17356514
>being triggered by memes and copy pastas

[Anonymous No.17356590]

>>17349240
For Elric IMO stick to the core books of the Saga: Elric, Sailors, Weird, Bane, and Stormbringer. I read Fortress of the Pearl which was written in the 80s and it was way too long, the ending was good. Elric at the End of Time might be good too but that's a short story and I skipped it.

[Anonymous No.17356599]

>>17356590
am i gay if this image gives me a half chub

[Anonymous No.17356601]

>>17356590
>>17349240
and read the Vanishing Tower too which I mentioned was one of my favorites.

[Anonymous No.17356620]

>>17356599
Being gay for Elric is right and proper

[Anonymous No.17356628]

>>17356575
>projecting again

[Anonymous No.17356664]

>>17356531
>a retort is a device used in distillation
I didn't know that, I thought it was talking about conversational retorts. That made me think that maybe "wind still" is another metaphor about rhetoric (cf. "take the wind out of someone's sails").
I guess it makes sense now, thanks. Though it's still unclear why the Qizarate would be in charge of such a thing.

[Anonymous No.17356702]

>>17356514
>>>/Reddit/

[Anonymous No.17356815]

>>17356702
>being a newfag
>>>/r/eddit

[Anonγmous No.17356901]

I refuse to read Bakker because of retards spamming these threads.

[Anonymous No.17356962]

>17th Shard calls it Tod/Todd
>now think of Todd being the Vessel of Odium and turning his Invested world into Nirn

[Anonymous No.17357078]

>>17356312
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5gDiXNjhEc

[Anonymous No.17357086]

>>17351321
>The motivations of the Sranc seem to be as base as imaginable, in that they seem to find sexual gratification in acts of violence. There are innumerable accounts of the indiscriminate rape of men, women, children, and even corpses. They seem to know nothing of mercy or honour, and though they do take prisoners, very few are known to have survived captivity, which is said to be savage beyond imagining.

Not sure it would be a gf thing at all at any time.

[Anonymous No.17357107]

>I am the greater mystery.

[Anonymous No.17357155]

>>17356478
Read the king james bible and old books.

[Anonymous No.17357157]

>>17356064
based, i forgot about that band. they made several tolkien themed albums.
https://youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_koYOy3WnCkS7dIlThVlifRO255feD_OUA

[Anonymous No.17357168]

>>17356312
>grasps her turgid horn

[Anonymous No.17357222]

>>17356312
HOW LONG HAVE YOU SERVED GOLGOTTERATH

[Anonymous No.17357279]

What am i in for bros?

[Anonymous No.17357348]

“Make the new thread,” Conphas sneered, “you caste-menial dog.”

[Anonymous No.17357362]

>>17357279
Pretty cool world, extremely cool ideas presented in a decidedly meh way.

[Anonymous No.17357379]

*glomps you*
>>17357377
>>17357377
>>17357377
>>17357377
>>17357377

[Anonymous No.17357587]

>>17357279
Priests riding rockets. Loved it.

[Anonymous No.17357674]

>>17355874
actually me on the left

[Anonymous No.17357736]

>TFW no one will see this post so I can express my love for trashy urban fantasy with female leads and a romance subplot.

[Anonymous No.17357781]

>>17357736
like?

[Anonymous No.17357995]

>>17357781
I like October Daye.