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Anonymous Wed Jan 20 14:54:02 2021 No.17336674 [Reply] [Original]

I'm struggling to read philosophy because I'm constantly terrified by the thought that they all might be wrong and that I might be wasting my time.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 20 14:57:03 2021 No.17336700 >>17336674 It’s not about the destination, it’s about the journey. Fucking frogposter midwit.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 20 14:59:27 2021 No.17336723 >>17336674 im muslim and i read philosophy knowing full well its all bullshit kafir cope

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 20 15:02:08 2021 No.17336740 >>17336700 Cope. The destination is that I write a better philosophy book than everyone else (aside from Plato)

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 20 15:44:46 2021 No.17337115 >>17336674 They are all wrong to some degree retard. We don't have epistemic certainty. Come up with where they're right and where they're wrong w your own metaphysics

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 20 15:46:00 2021 No.17337128 They’re not “wrong” but none of it is provable and is indeed a waste of time

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 20 15:47:07 2021 No.17337133 >>17336723 You don't have to shoehorn the fact that you're muslim into every post.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 20 15:47:33 2021 No.17337135 >>17337133 Yeah but he can, christcuck Cope

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 20 15:47:54 2021 No.17337141 >>17336700 >>17336723 >>17336740 >>17337115 >>17337128 KEK unironically KEK

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 20 15:48:55 2021 No.17337148 >>17337141 Well don't listen to them. Mine accounted for them in my response >>17337115

Anonymous Wed Jan 20 15:50:32 2021 No.17337156

>>17336674
That's true of everything. Having a job? Mayve you're wasting your time for money that you don't even need or that you could get in a more productive way elsewhere.
Dating someone? Maybe you're wasting your time because it's not going to work out.

Just chill out, philosophy is liberation and exercise for the mind, not a race to correctness.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 20 15:51:47 2021 No.17337170 >>17336674 Read Plato and Aristotle, you'll see how much value is in Philosophy then. ALSO WATCH THIS LIFE-CHANGING VIDEO ABOUT PHILOSOPHY: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_os-ysZJM_I

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 20 15:52:31 2021 No.17337175 one of them must be right its hegel

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 20 15:53:46 2021 No.17337188 >>17337128 neither is mathematics but that shit still builds bridges

Anonymous Wed Jan 20 15:55:31 2021 No.17337209

>>17337175
Okay that's fine but Hegel is screwed by nobody being able to interpret his logic into modern mathematics. It was left by the wayside by Russell. There are inclinations to a hegelian math (that 1+1=3 debacle particularly) but it hasn't been reached. If your metaphysics can't comment in math then it's just fact sniffery.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 20 15:56:37 2021 No.17337220 Human beings are not going to be 'right' about anything in any absolute sense. We are short-lived monkeys living on one rock in a universe of unfathomable scale. If you seek certainty, you won't find it.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 20 15:57:22 2021 No.17337230 Read Sartre, Stirner, Nietzsche, and Camus

Anonymous Wed Jan 20 15:57:56 2021 No.17337233

> Once upon a time, in some out of the way corner of that universe which is dispersed into numberless twinkling solar systems, there was a star upon which clever beasts invented knowing. It was the most arrogant and mendacious minute of world history, but nevertheless only a minute. After nature had drawn a few breaths the star cooled and solidified, and the clever beasts had to die. The time had come too, for although they boasted of how much they understood, in the end they discovered to their great annoyance that they had understood everything falsely. They died, and in dying they cursed truth. Such was the nature of these desperate beasts who had invented knowing.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 20 15:58:14 2021 No.17337237 Being right doesn't matter if it doesn't work, anon. Learn everything you can and use it accordingly. Don't think of Philosophy as another religion.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 20 16:07:35 2021 No.17337307 Cioran BTFOs ideology in this one short essay. https://aphelis.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/CIORAN_1949_Genealogy_of_fanaticism.pdf

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 20 16:11:22 2021 No.17337339 >>17336674 Likely there has been no philosopher who was able to write "the truth and nothing but the truth." Likely they were all right about somethings and wrong about another things, though some were more right and some more wrong.

>>	Tarotard Wed Jan 20 16:17:37 2021 No.17337406 >>17336674 Time you enjoy wasting isn’t waisted.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 20 16:22:35 2021 No.17337456 >>17337406 Woke up today and all I can say is

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 20 16:23:42 2021 No.17337464 "i'm struggling because they might be wrong wah wah wah i'm a little baby" have you considered thinking for yourself?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 20 19:20:07 2021 No.17338836 >>17336674 Anything could be wrong, anon. Even common sense could be wrong.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 20 19:20:59 2021 No.17338846 that's actually a very valid concern OP. study Buddhism instead.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 20 19:21:09 2021 No.17338847 >>17337128 Nothing is provable.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 20 19:21:10 2021 No.17338848 File: 44 KB, 800x450, brainlettttt.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>17337188

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 20 19:29:54 2021 No.17338934 >>17337233 based

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 20 19:41:46 2021 No.17339035 Absolute skepticism is retarded and leads you nowhere.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 20 19:43:11 2021 No.17339047 >>17339035 I find that hard to believe.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 20 19:47:06 2021 No.17339080 >>17337230 from these just read Nietzsche and Stirner

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 20 19:47:55 2021 No.17339087 >>17339080 Stirner is an absolute meme.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 20 19:50:35 2021 No.17339111 >>17339087 No he's Nietzsche without the cringe, but Nietzsche still has good ideas that are a good companion to Stirner

>>	None !!lZetafI6z8s Wed Jan 20 19:53:23 2021 No.17339128 >>17339087 nobody actually reads stirner they just like the ideas of moral nihilism and selfabsorption

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 20 19:57:51 2021 No.17339161 >>17339111 Stirner is cringe and has zero good ideas. Moral nihilism is honestly boring and misses the point, and Stirner doesn't bring anything new to it either.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 20 20:00:21 2021 No.17339176 >>17339087 stirner is peak individualism

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 20 20:00:57 2021 No.17339182 I only read authors who are attractive. I do not value the worldviews of men who struggle with something as basic as getting pussy.

Anonymous Wed Jan 20 20:06:48 2021 No.17339221

>>17336674
This is an understandable misunderstanding, my dear frogposter.
Philosophy is not about snatching the truth and seizing it for all time. It is forever an ongoing process. It is not so much different from normal thinking processes of wondering and inquiry, except that it is much more structured and rigorous, or at least the best of is. To study and be a philosopher you must be at home with perpetual doubt, and concern not yourself with the chimera of final truth.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 20 20:06:53 2021 No.17339223 >>17339182 Same. I don't read Vollmann or Houellebecq because I don't think either of those ugly shits have anything to tell me.

Anonymous Wed Jan 20 20:07:41 2021 No.17339228

>>17339176
You can summarize Stirner's philosophy with "just do what you want, morals are made up". It's incredibly shallow, to the point where it has very little value. If Marx didn't seethe so much at him and ignored him instead no one would who he was.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 20 20:36:19 2021 No.17339411 Stirner is the best philosopher of religion

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 20 20:37:36 2021 No.17339422 >>17339182 are there any hot philosophers?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 20 20:40:11 2021 No.17339443 The problem with philosophy us that uf there is one tiny error it snowballs into a gigantic error.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 20 20:47:20 2021 No.17339501 >>17339422 me

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 20 20:54:06 2021 No.17339551 File: 19 KB, 490x586, 1591384085631.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>17336674 >I can't think for myself

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 20 21:22:40 2021 No.17339770 >>17339443 It's making a snowball at the peak of the mountain so to speak

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 20 22:15:55 2021 No.17340131 They are and you are. But everyone on earth is wasting their time so it’s all okay.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 20 22:18:28 2021 No.17340155 >>17336674 >read philosophy dont do it. read something worth your time like textbooks

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 20 22:27:20 2021 No.17340219 >>17337339 You obviously haven't read me

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 20 22:31:35 2021 No.17340251 >>17336674 very smart anon. I wish I would have had this exact thought before I came to the exact conclusion reading philosophy for the past decade.

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