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[Anonymous No.17329615]

Why does Evola's art look so modern? Was he ahead of his time?

[Anonymous No.17329633]

>>17329615
not really, he literally just copied what was on vogue then, futurism.

[Anonymous No.17329641]

>>17329615
Looks like shit.

[Anonymous No.17329682]

Many righttards don’t like hearing this, but both fascism and nazism are explicitly modernist

[Anonymous No.17329687]

>>17329615
Just looked this up and his earliest known piece is from 1917, at which point the futurist style was already highly codified and even approaching decline.

[Anonymous No.17329691]

>>17329682
This, and Evola was inspired by modernism as well (he was close to Dada at some point).

[Anonymous No.17329717]

>>17329615
It IS modern, that WAS the time, idiot.

[Anonymous No.17329718]

>>17329615
In a kind of roundabout sense modern art is closer to Traditionalism then romanticist stuff as it requires a level of elitism to appreciate.

[Anonymous No.17329727]

>>17329718
It's also oogabooga abstracted shapes or geometry like cave paintings or arab art, respectively.

[Anonymous No.17329736]

>>17329615
>thread up right now about how avant-garde art is trash
>but this is ok because the kaliyuga guy did it
It's not even that good, you are all pitiable hypocrites

[Anonymous No.17329745]

>>17329682
as a righttard, i approve.

[Anonymous No.17329765]

>>17329615
i actually kinda dont give a fuck about his art, he c
comes up with shit like race spirit and i get a boner

[Anonymous No.17329770]

>>17329682
National Socialism has a definite strain of Traditionalist thought seen in the Volkish movement and aspects of the SS. The Fascists were explicit modernists though.

[Anonymous No.17329789]

>>17329770
Yes but wasn't it more of a sentimental attachment? Nazis were best at updating and furthering already existing modern trends, with the exception of a few half assed expeditions to retrieve old skulls, what did they do for the restoration of their tradition?

[Anonymous No.17329830]

>>17329687
Agreed. Movement-wise he was closer to Dada, but I don't really see it in the paintings (more so his poetry, like "La parole obscure du paysage intérieur). He was sort of late to the dada party also, though he was a real, albeit minor, member of the movement (published in the dada collection, close to Tzara...).

[Anonymous No.17329879]

>>17329770
Folklore traditions are residues from older traditions, nazis didn't understood any of them. The profanation of sacred symbols that they used is more subversive than average modernism.

[Anonymous No.17329900]

>>17329691
He was rejected by DADA at every point.

[Anonymous No.17329915]

>>17329718
For a fucking 9-year old you sound stupid beyond your years.

[Anonymous No.17329925]

>>17329830
They heated him. That’s why he was never “in”.

[Anonymous No.17329936]

>>17329615
>MODERN ART BAD
>ITS OKAY WHEN LE MAGIC TRAD MAN DOES IT THOUGH
Can't make this shit up lmaooo

[Anonymous No.17329962]

>>17329925
Read Jeffrey Schnapp's "Bad Dada (Evola)".

[Anonymous No.17329983]

>>17329615
Just wait until you see cubism.

[Anonymous No.17329989]

>>17329682
I thought this was common knowledge.

[Anonymous No.17330044]

>>17329900
Poor Evola ;_;

[Anonymous No.17330071]

>>17329915
Kek

[Anonymous No.17330093]

>>17329936
>lmaooo
>>>/twitter/

[Anonymous No.17330210]

It's futurism, it fits perfectly with his time

[Anonymous No.17330296]

>>17329718
>>17329727
Tradfags doing extreme mental gymnastics to justify this kek

[Anonymous No.17330312]

>>17330296
I'm definitely no tradcel, but it's not exactly an uncommon take that a lot of modern styles represent an atavism, most commonly it is applied to art brut or naïvism, but sometimes also to more abstracted styles.

[Anonymous No.17330550]

>>17329962
Got a link?

[Anonymous No.17331663]

>>17329682
Very true.

>>17329770
>National Socialism has a definite strain of Traditionalist

Not really. The nazis literally encouraged women to have children out of wedlock and even tried to remove any stigma attached to single mums, which shocked many Germans at that time.

> “One reason for the relative lack of success of Himmler’s attempt to procure more children for the nation by encouraging illegitimate births lay in the fact that the overwhelming majority of Germans still steered their moral life mainly by the compass of the Christian religion. In 1939 95 per cent of Germans described themselves either as Catholics or as Protestants; 3.5 per cent were ‘Deists’ (gottgl̈ubig), and 1.5 per cent atheists: most people in these latter categories were convinced Nazis who had left their Church at the behest of the Party, which had been trying since the mid-1930s to reduce the influence of Christianity in society.20 Especially in rural areas and amongst older generations, the overwhelming predominance of Christianity encouraged conservative attitudes towards sexual morality, reinforced by the preaching of pastors and priests. This was not welcome to the Nazi hierarchy.”

[Anonymous No.17331677]

Idk modern arts ok im a philistine though, Often just go hmmm looks neat while some older pieces I can just stare at forever

[Anonymous No.17331681]

>>17331663
>Himmler’s attempt to procure more children for the nation by encouraging illegitimate births
Was Himmler an actual retard or what

[Anonymous No.17331720]

>>17331681
Nazi Germany was a comedy of subversion on a global scale. It's hilarious how so many wannabe "Traditionalists" think the Nazis did anything but cast the world into deeper chaos, and utterly profane the very things that couldve saved it.

[Anonymous No.17331721]

If fascism was based on aesthetics, and futurism was supposed to be cutting edge, then why is constructivism so much better?
If fascism was predicated on futurist aesthetics, they why was the fascist aesthetic so decadent?
Truly, fascism never succeeded because of this aesthetic hypocrisy.
Liberal capitalism, in its complete disregard for the monumental, is closer to obtaining the grim reality of futurism; a virus-like mass of glass and steel spreading without any concern for consistency or achievement.
Burgerpunk has accomplished what fascism failed to, and it is horrifying.

[Anonymous No.17331781]

>>17331721
Nah, "burgerpunk" is too static and monotonous to be compared to a dynamic and hyperactive style like futurism.