Guilt

[Anonymous No.17308426]

Redpill me on Guilt , why is it so powerful

[Anonymous No.17308449]

>>17308426
As if you didn't know. You know I hate it when you play stupid, I do not need your charity. I do not need you to make me feel smart and stroke my ego. Give me a fucking challenge for once and stop playing these games! Show me that you can actually think and comprehend.

[Anonymous No.17308489]

You cant feel guilt if you dont think youre doing sonething wrong.

[Anonymous No.17308491]

>>17308426
Pain is weakness leaving the body. Guilt is weakness leaving the spirit.

[Anonymous No.17308496]

>>17308426
you can make people do crazy things out of guilt i know some people that got a whole country for themselves with a guilt trip

[Anonymous No.17309736]

>>17308489
This just leads to all kinds of delusional rationalizations and self-deception. This is why guilt destroys people. It fucks up the very core of your identity. A guilty conscience would rather bend the truth than face it.

[Anonymous No.17309749]

>>17308426
Read Nietzsche and Foucault

[Anonymous No.17309760]

>>17308426
>guilt is to the spirit what pain is to the body

Useless?

[Anonymous No.17309772]

Because guilt is how systems of power operate, so guilt is endlessly repeated by just about anyone who wants to get you to do something for them.

[Anonymous No.17309774]

>>17309749
>Foucault
>read fag whose entire philosophy was a rationalization of his own degeneracy
“No”

[Anonymous No.17309778]

>>17309760
No. It is a sign something is wrong. Guilt is the sign of a “moral injury” on the soul.

[Anonymous No.17309791]

>>17309772
Is this a college campus?

[Anonymous No.17309795]

>>17309778
Or the sign of you being convinced that there’s something wrong, by someone who benefits from this sentiment

[Anonymous No.17309800]

>>17309749
what books do nietzsche and foucault talk abt guilt cuz i dont remember it from what ive read of them but i might have alzheimers and forgot

[Anonymous No.17309801]

>>17308426
Spook made by Jews to keep you in place

[Anonymous No.17309804]

>>17309791
No, this is just me not being an edgy pseudo conservatard like you. I don’t care how much you whine, a noble lie is still a lie

[Anonymous No.17309815]

>>17309795
No. You know things are wrong because you wouldn’t want them to be done to you.
Do you want to get cheated on?
No?
Don’t cheat then.

[Anonymous No.17309820]

>>17309778

You can have pain without damage and damage without pain.

[Anonymous No.17309824]

>>17309804
>edgy pseudo conservatard
That doesn’t mean anything. Make an actual argument.

[Anonymous No.17309847]

>>17309824
I just did. A noble lie is still a lie. Furthermore, guilt trippers never distinguish between guilt from following harmful behavior and not following preferable behavior, that way they can endless switch between the two and always keep the door open for behavior control and abuse

[Anonymous No.17309891]

>>17309847
>always keep the door open for behavior control and abuse
How is morality “control and abuse”?
Is it “oppressive” to say it’s wrong to cheat on your partner?
Is it “abusive” to say it’s wrong to talk shit behind your friend’s back?

[Anonymous No.17309898]

>>17309891
yes

[Anonymous No.17309916]

>>17309898
How would you like them done to you? How would you feel?

[Anonymous No.17309981]

>>17309891
>How is morality “control and abuse”?
Morality isn’t just saying ‘X is right and Y is wrong’, it’s also all the ways to establish and justify morality. In the case of guilt, what should be avoided is much easier to assess than what should be preferred. In the case of avoiding harmful behavior, the one commanded usually also benefits, in the case of promoting preferable behavior, it’s usually just the one who commands who benefits.

Furthermore, another vital concept is moral responsibility, and in responsibility it’s essential to discriminate between what you can have an effect on and what you can’t, and you’re never held responsible for stuff you have no ability to effect in a meaningful way