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17291840 No.17291840 [Reply] [Original]

Does listening to audiobooks count as reading?

>> No.17291843

You know it doesnt anon

>> No.17291844

Exhibit A

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xPqPu4KT4o

>> No.17291849

Exhibit B

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7BYK0hZibk

>>17291843
The same information is conveyed.
I prefer reading books but my eyes can only look at text for so long before I feel like stabbing to death the nearest intellectual. Much more comfortable to alternate between reading and listening. After all, seminars are how most people obtain information, then and now.

>> No.17291859

>>17291840
No.

>> No.17291869

>>17291840
No, anon, it counts as listening. In both listening and reading you retain information, but the way you get to it is different.
You wouldn't say you were running from point A to point B if you were actually riding a horse to there.

>> No.17291872

It doesn't really matter and trying to define reading is a waste of time. Just be aware that audiobooks require just as much attention as paper books and you shouldn't try to multitask with them like you would with music or a podcast.

>> No.17291881

>>17291869
Shit tier analogy. Only pseuds and brainlets disregard audiobooks. I like listening to them while I do house chores etc. I put the audio at the front of my mind and engage with the content just the same.

>> No.17291887

>>17291869
Can I say I've 'read' Studies in Pessimism by having listened to someone read it?
>>17291872
That makes sense.
A podcast is different but for someone with attention-span difficulty the fluidity of someone reading a text can save a lot of anguish.

>> No.17291892

Is he picking mushrooms?

>> No.17291893
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>>17291840
>hearing =//= reading

>> No.17291896

>>17291887
I've heard of people listening to the audiobook while reading the words on the page at the same time. That's not really necessary but it would be a good way to remove any distractions

>> No.17291901

>>17291872
I multitask but only for brainless activities like laundry, mowing the lawn (ear muff Bluetooth headphones), weeding etc.

>> No.17291905

>>17291896
Wow what the fuck, how come I've never thought of that.

>> No.17291912

>>17291881
Nowhere in my post did I disregard audiobooks. But it doesn't really look good if people advocating for them can't tell difference between actions and verbs used to express them.

>> No.17291917

>>17291840
Listening to audiobooks while playing minecraft allows me to form physical memory palaces with information dense books. It's generally good if it's a first "read". It's not real reading though, because it doesn't require the same level of focus or determination. I would say that real reading is better for you, because you have to devote your full attention to reading otherwise you can't actually consume the material (you can't read and watch tv, you only have one set of eyes). Real reading is also much faster.

>> No.17291918

No

>> No.17291924

>>17291917
I should have said digital, not physical.

>> No.17291928

>>17291917
What do you build in Minecraft while listening to books? Do you play in creative or survival mode?
>Real reading is also much faster.
Not if you have OCD, autism or ADD.

>> No.17291933

>>17291844
The reader has such a comfy voice. His reading of Descartes' Mediations is also nice.

>> No.17291952

>>17291928
I play the game more or less normally, searching caves, building castles, making farms. I don't really go into the nether or the end, I play on normal difficulty normally, because I don't want to focus on the game too much.

I find it really useful, because generally I progress through the game at a similar pace as the narrator progresses through the book. The first chapter might correspond to my first house, the second to my first mine, etc... When I go back through the level, certain blocks will trigger a memory of something I heard in the book, almost like the bit of information has been compartmentalised in a "physical" location. I eventually forget a lot of the nitty gritty of the book, but I retain the overall ideas that were covered and they kind of just merge into my understanding of the world.

>> No.17291975

>>17291952
You are really smart. Where did you stumble upon this discovery?

>> No.17291979

>>17291912
Your autistic nitpicking is far from intelligent. If only you understood that

>> No.17291987

>>17291979
Shh, it's okay anon, no need to use insults to draw attention away from your own stupidity. Go find yourself some nice audiobook to listen to.

>> No.17291997

>>17291952
I've had similar experiences while walking and listening to audiobooks, it's pretty neat.

>> No.17292014

>>17291987
You’ve read the op as him asking if listening to audio is the same as reading text. Absolute autist.

>> No.17292073

>>17291975
>You are really smart
No

>Where did you stumble upon this discovery
I was an autistic NEET who played minecraft and tf2 while listening to informative podcasts and eventually started noticing that certain areas of the map reminded me of particular ideas. I then read about "speed reading" because I'm a sub-IQ 200 to 250wpm reader and the sources say most of it is improving memory techniques. I then read about memory techniques and apparently the Greeks used to make up memory palaces as one of the ways to remember long texts. As they walked through an imagined palace, they'd remember certain parts of their stories as they recited them. Now I have less time for gayming, so when I feel like it, I play and listen to an audiobook.

Writing this has made me realise that I had similar experiences doing household chores and listening to books, and even doing household chores while reciting speeches I used to do for high school subjects. That's how I memorised speeches, I'd recite them while walking around, then I'd recite them while doing chores, and it just made it easier to remember things.

>> No.17292101

>>17292014
And pray tell how exactly is one supposed to interpret OP's question?
If you attend an old-fashioned party where a poet recites his newest poem you wouldn't say you read it. The poem exists in written form, but the way you received it is through listening.
When your mother reads you bed time stories, you don't tell your friends you read the book, you say you listened to your mother read you stories.
No, listening to audiobooks is not reading, it's listening to someone read the book to you. And there is nothing wrong with that.