/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.17284750]

What is the most /lit/ place to live in and why is it Brooklyn?

Also if you are a hick don't even bother posting LMAO. "m-muh rootless cosmopolitan m-muh soulless urbanite bugmen m-muh tradition m-muh wheat fields" losers.

[Anonymous No.17284776]

>>17284750
>most /lit/ city
>anywhere in muttistan
Lol

[Anonymous No.17284783]

yeah i can't take ppl who don't live in the nyc metro areas seriously, if you live past newark or new rochelle forget it, well, the sf bay area is respectable i guess

[Anonymous No.17284836]

Clueless normalfag answer
>London
>New York
>Paris
Decent tier
>Tokyo
>Constantinople
>Dublin
In the know tier
>Zurich
>Vienna
>Budapest
Literati tier
>Prague
>Kyoto
>St. Petersburg
Elder God tier
>Samarkand
>Berlin

[Anonymous No.17284861]

>>17284750
>inb4ing timeless truths
The most /lit/ place to live is in a non-remote cabin, like Thoreau's, because this place is a well-intentioned LARP but a LARP nonetheless.

[Anonymous No.17284921]

>>17284750
Brooklyn is gay and full of degenerate leftoids, Queens is for right wing chads. Brooklynoids BTFO

[Anonymous No.17284928]

>>17284750
What is even going on in Brooklyn? Disgusting stupid podcasts. No art or talent to be found.

[Anonymous No.17285147]

>>17284921
>Queens is for right wing chads
what

[Anonymous No.17285153]

>>17284836
All of these are normie as fuck

[Anonymous No.17285157]

>>17285147
cope, seethe, and you will never be a woman

[Anonymous No.17285200]

>>17284921
Queens is only good because it has Astoria, which of course makes it the best borough. Wish Astoria was still a little more Greek, but immigrant neighborhoods are a thing of the past in nyc

[Anonymous No.17285246]

>>17284750
>What is the most /lit/ place to live in
Warsaw

[Anonymous No.17285258]

>>17284750
>most /lit/ place to live
In your own head

[Anonymous No.17285283]

>>17284750
>/lit/
>cities
Zoomers really have no clue

[Anonymous No.17285286]

The most /lit/ city is Mexico City

[Anonymous No.17285359]

>>17284836
>Prague

[Anonymous No.17285368]

>>17285283
This

[Anonymous No.17285415]

>>17284836
I lived in Peterburg for a while. Based.

[Anonymous No.17285418]

Chicago because that’s where F. Gardner lives.

[Anonymous No.17285422]

>>17284921
>>17285147
Queens is definitely the most based. No other borough has as many Kashmir Shaivists

[Anonymous No.17285476]

>>17285418
>Chiraq
Enjoy getting mugged by pavement apes.

[Anonymous No.17285500]

>>17284750
Brooklyn rules. What bookshops do you frequent fren? I'm partial to Spoonbill and Molasses myself.

[Anonymous No.17285680]

>>17285415
What was it like? It looks pretty cool.

[Anonymous No.17285866]

>>17285680
Not as comfy as Moscow desu. Feels more like a tourist city than somewhere to live. Fucking canals everywhere, it's kinda cool till you realize that's where the stench is coming from... And Russia in general is just full of degenerates. The glamorization of alcohol and despair is aesthetic on paper, but just repulsive to witness. idk. I'm really torn on it. I liked almost everyone I met in Russia, but I hate almost every Russian I meet in the US. I don't know if it's selection bias (emigrants are different from nationals?) or just it being clearer seeing them side-by-side with normal people.
The city itself is pretty cool from a tourism perspective though. Tons to see. Especially if you know about art, I think -- I didn't, so the hermitage + a handful of other big museums were mostly lost on me. I wish I'd known more literature before going there, too. We walked with my group (I was there on a study abroad program) through the path Raskolnikov takes in C&P. We also saw locations D had lived. It was a really cool experience. But I don't think I'd choose to live in St. P.

[Anonymous No.17285957]

>>17285866
Ahh that's a shame, was thinking of going there to teach English but fuck living in a tourist trap.

[Anonymous No.17286012]

Who the fuck needs a city? All I need is my own house and a grocery store. My mortgage is cheaper than your rent. I read in my office or my living room or my screened porch or my back yard. I'm 25. Fuck cities.

[Anonymous No.17286056]

>>17284750
North Brooklyn died years ago and you faggots killed it art can never thrive in a place where the rent is as high as it is currently

[Anonymous No.17286065]

>>17285957
oh, I didn't mean to say it's a tourist trap exactly. I just think it's probably more interesting as a tourist. Other than the sort of touristy things, I'd think it's just a normal city.
You have to remember, when most of these novels set in Petersburg were written, it was the capital. And also, just living in a big-ish city was exciting to a lot of people. Petersburg is cool but it's just a city. All cities are alike, or, there are two kinds -- those developed pre-automobile and post-.

[Anonymous No.17286069]

>>17284750
>>17284836
Only first world megalopolis... you kids are so pampered.

[Anonymous No.17286073]

>>17286012
>All I need is my own house and a grocery store
You people lament the downfall of community yet say shit like this

>>17285476
The only people who are afraid of Chicago are pussies who have never been there.

[Anonymous No.17286085]

>>17286069
Nigger how is fucking Samarkand a megalopolis? it's not 1400

[Anonymous No.17286092]

Brooklyn is for faggots with podcasts and even bigger faggots who wish they had those podcasts. It should be obvious that the most /lit/ city is Carthage, Texas.
>>17286073
>afraid
Yeah I'm also scared of driving directly into a concrete wall at 100 mph

[Anonymous No.17286106]

>>17286092
>Yeah I'm also scared of driving directly into a concrete wall at 100 mph
What are you even trying to say?

[Anonymous No.17286136]

>>17286106
Have you seen Chicago's crime rates?

[Anonymous No.17286140]

>>17286069
Turkey, Hungary, Czech, and Russia are not first world, dumbass

[Anonymous No.17286153]

>>17284928
Oof, too bad these guys had to go so Twitter could pretend their bans weren't one-sided

[Anonymous No.17286155]

>>17286012
>>17286056
>>17286085

>Aspiring authors then: I'll go fuck prostitutes in Hanoi and smoke opium in the fields of Laos to find my muse.
>Apiring authors now: I need a Manhattan apartament or a studio in Prague to feel inspired.

[Anonymous No.17286156]

>>17286092
Based anon

[Anonymous No.17286168]

>>17286155
Shitposting faggot.

[Anonymous No.17286210]

>>17286155
>authors then
Stevens was a lawyer in Connecticut, eliot was a London editor, Kafka was a bureaucrat, Proust was a literal neet, etc etc

[Anonymous No.17286278]

>>17284921
Ah, Forest Hills. A lot of people I knew from church lived there so I spent some time going there. Truly the nicest part of Queens. Also very white for New York, but also very expensive.
>>17284750
Most of Brooklyn is not very /lit/, if you're aiming for Williamsburg why not go for Chelsea or Greenwich Village instead?

[Anonymous No.17286361]

Split, Croatia

[Anonymous No.17286390]

Literature is dead
Cities are dead
God is dead

Everything is fucking dead.

[Anonymous No.17286435]

>>17286012
>>17286073
Couldn't care less about community, I'll stay at home with my loving wife. Grow a brain and a dick and stop being a weenie

[Anonymous No.17286498]

>$4000/month studio apartment that reeks of body odor because you can’t afford to take showers

[Anonymous No.17286600]

I live in northern new england and it's pretty damn good, I'm not sure what criteria you consider. It's quiet and a good space to think. Good relations with neighbors, friends, and family - it's tight knit. Plus the natural world is beautiful and we get all four seasons in full force.

[Anonymous No.17286739]

>>17286435
>everyone should copy me
Peak solipsism. Get the fuck over yourself

[Anonymous No.17286988]

>>17286056
They did my neighborhood filthy, I wish I could move back, but I would never be able to afford it.

[Anonymous No.17287000]

>>17284750
ive lived in new york city my entire life, brooklyn included. any part of north brooklyn with white people is a complete cultural deadzone now. dont do it... move to queens

[F. Gardner No.17287030]

>>17285418
I live in a shitty suburb and not Chicago proper. I just say I live in Chicago because it sounds better, even if it is totally false.

[Anonymous No.17287073]

All of you fucks no nothing.

Let me enlighten.

Iowa City, Iowa.

World renowned writers workshop, farmers lifestyle, actual small business, they literally have quotes from famous authors in the fucking walkways its so /lit.

[Anonymous No.17287074]

>>17286435
>>17286739
As opposed to the guy claiming his "borough" is the best. You should stay on twitter with your kind

[Anonymous No.17287306]

>>17286988
I don't even know if I'd wanna move back honestly
my parents still live in green point but its so foreign whenever I go back

[Anonymous No.17287323]

>>17287030
Your books suck shit

[Anonymous No.17287329]

>he doesn't write in 1st century BC Alexandria

[Anonymous No.17287354]

>>17287306
gibs golabki and pierogi

[Anonymous No.17287402]

Dresden

[Anonymous No.17287404]

>>17284750
For me? It's most small fishing towns in the Maritimes.

[Anonymous No.17287405]

>>17287073
Iowa City is dinky as shit and its theatre is basically community theatre, even at the University. I did my undergrad there and haven't been back.

Prairie Lights is also overrated to fuck and back.

[Anonymous No.17287410]

>>17287073
>>17287405
Also, the "world renowned writers workshop" hasn't produced anything worth reading in decades.

[Anonymous No.17287474]

Reykjavik

[Anonymous No.17287482]

>>17287405
Has anyone here done the IWW MFA? Very curious about applying .. or if it’d even be worth bothering

[Anonymous No.17287531]

>>17287482
>MFA
horrible idea.

[Anonymous No.17287552]

>>17287306
Our neighborhoods culture was damn fine, it was there where I found my love of writing. If only it were the same as it was a few decades ago. Considering that I would have to ditch my guns to move back, I reconsider.
Also I wish I kept in contact with the few people I made acquaintances with :((

[Anonymous No.17287577]

>>17287404
this seems like a great answer and I love stan rogers

[Anonymous No.17287598]

>>17287552
It changes more and more and more every year but I'm glad I get to go back often since I just live in jersey
Curious about how you made the decision to leave the city and buy a bunch of guns

[Anonymous No.17287602]

>>17287577
Incredibly based. Keep it quiet though, let's make sure the Maritimes stay pure :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BqqUg49aIq0

[Anonymous No.17287606]

>>17284750
>What is the most /lit/ place to live
Anywhere I am will be the most /lit/. Just follow me.

[Anonymous No.17287609]

>>17284750
OK you deracinated faggot

[Anonymous No.17287610]

>>17287606
where you gonna take us breh?

[Anonymous No.17287619]

>>17284776
Fpbp.

[Anonymous No.17287626]

>>17287598
It wasn't choice, our family was evicted due to the rising costs of living.

[Anonymous No.17287669]

>>17287610
On top of the Alps, once submerged by sea. There the open mountain ridges sometimes look like abandoned cathedrals. There you can pick up serpent-clad stones who developed green scales under the burn of scalding deep seawater and who were later carried atop the mountain as they sludged they way out of the ocean, only to sleep in the fresh air for a hundred thousand millenia, and at last to be picked up by none other than you, anon.

Also, there may be goats.

[Anonymous No.17287720]

>>17284836
Actual writers looking to read and write:
Sarajevo

[Anonymous No.17287722]

>>17287669
based and sils maria-pilled

[Anonymous No.17287732]

>>17284750
You’re a dickhead

[Anonymous No.17288002]

Lived in Leeds for a bit, it wasn't /lit/ at all. Don't go there.

[Anonymous No.17288499]

Anywhere, if you're not a brainlet.

[Anonymous No.17288508]

>>17284750
Arizona, in the desert. Unironically

[Anonymous No.17288914]

>>17288508
west texas over Arizona imo

[Anonymous No.17288915]

>>17284750
That scene looks so fucking claustrophobic.

[Anonymous No.17288970]

>>17288002
Lefties hate the police so much. They have no fucking idea how many Americans don't even deserve to be in the general population.

[Anonymous No.17289261]

>>17284836
PETERSBURG IS BASED

[Anonymous No.17289284]

new york was literary up until the 80's when it started becoming a new disneyworld for rich people. i'm talking the days you literally couldn't walk in most places after 7:00pm without a very decent chance of getting mugged

comfort and wealth isn't as good of a driver of artistic talent as rich faggots would like you to think. have you actually seen the arts and culture community in NYC lately? good grief

[Anonymous No.17289312]

>>17289284
same thing happened to san francisco, honestly

[Anonymous No.17289316]

>>17289284
there are plenty of good artists, you just need to know where to look

[Anonymous No.17289387]

>>17284750
The way the elites convince urban proles to look down on rural proles is exactly the same thing they used to do making white proles look down on black proles.
>I read the NYT and live in this 5 million person city so I am elite :3 dumb hicks haha

[Anonymous No.17289599]

>>17289316
>you just need to know where to look
The cry of every faggot aware of how shit his city is. I'm sure all the good artists are just hiding in a brownstone that only you know about.

[Anonymous No.17289610]

>>17289284
dude, have you looked at the nypost lately? they got so much great security cam footage of authentic muggings, deblasio is bringing them back so tourists can have a more authentic experience

[Anonymous No.17289618]

>>17285283
underrated reply, smartest man in the thread. cities are the AIDS of human living arrangements. I'm trying so hard to leave.

[Anonymous No.17289620]

>>17289599
i mean yeah, basically.
who are you friends with?

[Anonymous No.17289636]

i moved upstate during covid but i miss the city, or what it was before. but it’ll bounce back, it always does. might be a fucking shithole but it’s the greatest city on earth and the level of talent and drive it attracts are unlike anywhere else i’ve ever lived.

[Anonymous No.17289645]

>>17284836
>>Constantinople
As insufferable as faggots who say Koenigsberg instead of Kaliningrad. The old city from your history books is gone, accept it. It's Istanbul.

[Anonymous No.17289671]

>>17285866
>emigrants are different from nationals?) or just it being clearer seeing them side-by-side with normal people.
In my experience, emigrants love to play up their own national stereotypes. Every Russian I met abroad actively enjoys to play the role of "tough alcoholic MAN!" and they will play that role. They'll behave like obnoxious drunks because they assume that's what their role entails or something.
I also notice this with Canadians abroad who insist they're immune to the cold because theyre Canadian, and Aussies who think they're Steve Irwin and give us lectures about spiders and shit
>t. Worked in a hostel in Munich

[Anonymous No.17289674]

Living in the East in the current year is definitely not /lit/. The East died in the 60s. It's been a shit hole since the 70s. It's so damn dirty and grimy and devoid of nature I can't imagine the mental gymnastics to think it's nice.

[Anonymous No.17289680]

>>17289610
fucking kek, this is exactly why i browse the nypost. it's like liveleak on there some days, what the fuck happened

[Anonymous No.17289682]

>>17286069
>first world
>Turkey and Russia
Granted, Petersburg is first world, but Russia outside of Moscow and SP is pretty gnarly.

[Anonymous No.17289685]

>>17286140
Czechia is definitely first world.
Hungary however, yeah they're still kind of teetering on the edge.

[Anonymous No.17289758]

Winesburg, Ohio

[Anonymous No.17289809]

>>17288970
Is that a non-sequitur?

[Anonymous No.17290008]

>>17284836
Tranny tier
>Portland
>Seattle
>Boston
Faggot tier
>Austin
>San Francisco
Eleven year-old girl tier
>Paris
Clueless normalfag tier
>Any European city
Decent tier
>Any city not listed above
In the know tier
>Pittsburgh
>Baltimore
Literati tier
>Omaha
>El Paso
>Port Angeles, WA
Elder god tier
>Pine Bluffs, Wyoming
>Sioux Falls
>Sun Valley

[Anonymous No.17290025]

>>17290008
Most of those places are in a septic tank.

[Anonymous No.17290041]

>>17289284
Slowly but surely becoming like that again

[Anonymous No.17290064]

>>17290008
>Pine Bluffs, Wyoming
>population: 1,159

damn son, where'd ya find this?

[Anonymous No.17290077]

>>17290041
do you think yang can win as mayor? supposedly the polls have him up by 1 point over the closest democrat

[Anonymous No.17290114]

>>17290077
Kek didn't even know he was running. Would be ok if he does I guess. Nothing can be worse than bill desu

[Anonymous No.17290187]

>>17287410
Just the fact that Flannery O'Connor went there, who has been probably the best American writer after Faulkner died, puts it ahead of any other "prestigious" university.

[Anonymous No.17291155]

>>17286069
Third world environments are not conducive to good writing. I live in New Delhi and I want to hang myself everyday. It’s almost anti-inspirational as a place

[Anonymous No.17291239]

>>17284921
You literally posted the most Jewish part of Queens. But yeah, aside from that I'd have to agree Queens is the best borough.
>t. Woodside Chad (formerly from Jackson Heights)

[Anonymous No.17291244]

>>17285200
>Wish Astoria was still a little more Greek
Fuck Greeks, especially the ones from Astoria. Probably the least pleasant people I met in New York. Glad that their economy is tanked

[Anonymous No.17291336]

>>17289645
Nah. 19th-century writers from the West almost exclusively referred to Istanbul as Constantinople and I will do the same.

[Anonymous No.17291409]

>>17291239
I used to live on the Woodside/Jackson Heights border, on the Jackson Heights side. The parts of Woodside I ventured into looked mostly like trashier Jackson Heights if I'm being honest, but it was stuff near the expressway around 35th avenue or so. I spent some time closer to 61st and the other side of Roosevelt Avenue by the LIRR tracks as well and it wasn't much better. If you take a walk in Jackson Heights from around 72nd street on 37th avenue all the way to about Junction Boulevard, it's honestly pretty cool. The best segment of course is the mid 70s and the 80s, it gets real nice and comfy. The Indian stuff closer to 75th street has its highs and its lows. Not the biggest fan of the Hispanic stuff on Junction but technically that is Corona. Meanwhile walks on 35th or 34th avenue are peak comfy residential homes. Does Woodside get as good?

[Anonymous No.17292428]

I wish I got to visit NYC before covid

It will never be the same, pretty sad.

[Anonymous No.17292600]

>>17289671
yeh this all sounds about right.

[Anonymous No.17292892]

Roma & Firenze: hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahhahahahahahahhahahahahhahahahhahahahaha

[Anonymous No.17292898]

>>17289685
how do i know that you're czech?

[Anonymous No.17292902]

>>17289645
Byzantion t b h

[Anonymous No.17292906]

Rome already had a solid literary tradition while the whole american continent was not even known.

[Anonymous No.17292912]

>>17286069
>turkey
>russia
>czechia
>hungary

>first world
kek

[Anonymous No.17292920]

>>17289682
>Petersburg and Moscow is first world
pic related is Moscow. how is that first world?

[Anonymous No.17292921]

>>17292898
Ale ne, nejsem.

[Anonymous No.17292932]

>>17284836
>Tokyo
>Constantinople
>Dublin
>Zurich
>Budapest
>Prague
>Kyoto
>St. Petersburg
>Samarkand
how are these /lit/?

[Anonymous No.17292949]

>>17285866
>liked almost everyone I met in Russia, but I hate almost every Russian I meet in the US.
My experience as well

[Anonymous No.17292950]

>>17285866
>Moscow
>comfy
third world hellhole

[Anonymous No.17292959]

>>17286155
no one cares or even knows where Prague is tho

[Anonymous No.17292967]

>>17292950
that's on the edge of the city. Inner city is only rich people, it's nice

[Anonymous No.17292979]

>>17292967
here's the truly first world, inner city of Moscow that's only for the rich people then

[Anonymous No.17293045]

>>17292950
According to some anons in this thread, it should be perfect for creativity. The shittier it is, the better.

[Anonymous No.17293100]

>>17292920
>United States is first world
pic related is US how is that first world?

[Anonymous No.17293125]

>>17293100
Any city or town will have a ramshackle building anyone may photograph and say "see, it's horrible."

What you've done worse than merely cherry-picking. It's asinine.

[Anonymous No.17293175]

>>17293100
>>17293125

[Anonymous No.17293183]

>>17293125
>>17293175

[Anonymous No.17293189]

>>17293125
>>17293183

[Anonymous No.17293192]

>>17293125
>>17293189

[Anonymous No.17293196]

>>17293125
>>17293192

[Anonymous No.17293200]

>>17293196

[Anonymous No.17293202]

>>17292979
that's not the inner city, that's novaya moskva and some trash around it. I'm talking about the area inside the ring line.

[Anonymous No.17293210]

>>17289671
>you are not who you think you are
>you are not who I think you are
>are are who you think I think you are
I've been traveling all over the world (I'm romanian) and thisholds true in every single case. You would have to be extremely self-aware and in tune with yourself to go beyond stereotypes.

[Anonymous No.17293211]

>>17293100
>>17293175
>>17293183
>>17293189
>>17293192
>>17293196
>>17293200
>>17293125
all the same american city

[Anonymous No.17293229]

living in a big city is gay and retarded

the key is to live within 1 hr from them but still in a nice woodsy area

[Anonymous No.17293240]

>>17293229
>I'm just love being in my intellectual desert of a suburb!

[Anonymous No.17293247]

>>17293211
E for effort, I guess. Everyone knows the whole of America is not like your photos which you desperately cherry picked.

[Anonymous No.17293268]

>>17293247
Never said all of america was like this and there are many other city's I could do this with
Just showing that having poverty doesn't mean somethings not first world

[Anonymous No.17293291]

>>17293240
“intellectual desert”
holy fuck this was a gay thing to say that’s nuts you even typed it

[Anonymous No.17293372]

>>17284750
If you don't like like Ted you are a fag

[Anonymous No.17293807]

>>17291336
That's because it was still named Constantinople at the time, brainlet. The name Istanbul became official under Atatürk in the 1920s

[Anonymous No.17293814]

>>17292920
Looks like it could be in parts of Germany desu. Even Finland has horrible brutalist buildings in many places.

[Anonymous No.17293834]

>>17292920
This is in Belgium (Charleroi), the heart of the EU and Western Europe.

[Anonymous No.17293864]

>>17285866
>And Russia in general is just full of degenerates
But Spb is overflowing with them. It's got a reputation for being the most degenerate city in Russia. In fact, most degenerates I know are either from Petersburg itself, or have close ties to degenerates living in it.

[Anonymous No.17294062]

>>17293834
What post-industrialism does to a MF

[Anonymous No.17294108]

>>17289680
>what the fuck happened

it's not exactly out of character for the ny post

[Anonymous No.17294162]

>>17293864
I'd believe it, I just didn't know enough to say confidently. you russian?

[Anonymous No.17294353]

>>17290025
That's what makes them /lit/

[Anonymous No.17294647]

>>17293229
100% correct

[Anonymous No.17294907]

>>17290064
personal experience anon

[Anonymous No.17295053]

>>17284750
>what’s 1+1
>and no you can’t say 2 shitlord

[Anonymous No.17295078]

>>17284750
rootless cosmopolitan soulless urbanite bugmen, seek tradition and wheat fields, faggot.

[Anonymous No.17295137]

>>17290008
>El Paso
>literati
I grew up in El Paso, love it, and visit often, but its not a particularly /lit/ city. Its general vibe and lifestyle is, but the people are frankly pretty dumb which will eventually get to you and squash any intellectual endeavor.