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>In women, on the other hand, Eros is an expression of their true nature, while their Logos is often only a regrettable accident. It gives rise to misunderstandings and annoying interpretations in the family circle and among friends. This is because it consists of opinions instead of reflections, and by opinions I mean a priori assumptions that lay claim to absolute truth. Such assumptions, as everyone knows, can be extremely irritating. As the animus is partial to argument, he can best be seen at work in disputes where both parties know they are right. Men can argue in a very womanish way, too, when they are anima-possessed and have thus been transformed into the animus of their own anima. With them the question becomes one of personal vanity and touchiness (as if they were females); with women it is a question of power, whether of truth or justice or some other "ism"—for the dressmaker and hairdresser have already taken care of their vanity. The "Father" (i.e., the sum of conventional opinions) always plays a great role in female argumentation. No matter how friendly and obliging a woman's Eros may be, no logic on earth can shake her if she is ridden by the animus. Often the man has the feeling—and he is not altogether wrong—that only seduction or a beating or rape would have the necessary power of persuasion.

>Anyone who still had enough sense of humour to listen objectively to the ensuing dialogue would be staggered by the vast number of commonplaces, misapplied truisms, cliches from newspapers and novels, shop-soiled platitudes of every description interspersed with vulgar abuse and brain-splitting lack of logic. It is a dialogue which, irrespective of its participants, is repeated millions and millions of times in all the languages of the world and always remains essentially the same.

>> No.17280951

He's right

>> No.17280971

I, for one, don't think women should be allowed around children. Roughly every female teacher I ever had throughout my childhood set me up for failure in ways I wouldn't realize until years later. All of the defeatism, all of the notions of life being hard, all of the things that you "can't" do. These things all came from female teachers attempting to demoralize a my childlike self. I can't remember any male teacher ever trying to break me down and tell me the world was a dark and bad place of never ending difficulty. No child should be around women. My male teachers sought to inspire me.

>> No.17280981

is this the incel containment thread?

>> No.17280984

>>17280971
Women only repeat what men in power tell them to repeat. You should rather look to see who (need I spare the three pairs of parentheses?) is in power.

>> No.17280989

>>17280984
>>17280971
alright its time to call the janny on your antisemitic asses

>> No.17280990

>>17280932
>C.G. Jung on Women
Wow I don't think it gets anymore worthless than this. Why not ask the schizophrenic hobo in your neighborhood what he thinks about women while you're at it?

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>>17280932
>Often the man has the feeling—and he is not altogether wrong—that only seduction or a beating or rape would have the necessary power of persuasion.

>> No.17281001

>>17280981
No, this is /lit/ - literature, where we discuss important works of literature and philosophy. The above quote is verbatim from Jung's book Aion: The Phenomenology of the Self.

>> No.17281005

>>17280984
There are elements of truth to this, but in fact I believe women to be so petty they would purposefully spite a happy male child. I would never tell a child something is too hard.

>> No.17281014

>>17280989
This isn't leddit, sweaty. anti-semitism is our common stock.

>> No.17281018

>>17281005
How much interaction have you had with children in your adult life
Do you have children or close relatives that are children

>> No.17281023

>>17280971
Fuck anon that is genuinely insightful. I would love to read more on this same idea.

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>>17281014
>This isn't leddit, sweaty. anti-semitism is our common stock.

>> No.17281032

>>17281018
A few, and I make sure that I never demolish their confidence.

>> No.17281044

>>17281032
A few close relatives?
How frequently do you interact with them?

>> No.17281049

>>17281032
>>17281005
who hurt you

>> No.17281054

>>17281044
As well as friends I get roped into baby sitting these days which I have to admit I'm not a fan but I will do my duty

>> No.17281061

>>17281049
Every female teacher I ever had from 1st grade to well... they never stopped being defeatist cunts even into college

>> No.17281074

>>17281061
if you were a real man you wouldnt have been duped into listening to women even in first grade. But since you aint you will carry the resentment of being a simp to the grave, resentment for some women that have forgotten you decades ago

>> No.17281094

>>17281074
I did feel set back in development when I realized how bamboozled I had been but don't be confused by my words, I don't harbor resentment but do think women should be looked at with higher scrutiny with the way they treat children.

>> No.17281095

>>17281049
His female teachers hurt him you dumb bitch. If you even bothered to read his first post you would have known that.

>> No.17281109

>>17281094
I believe it is ultimately men who are at fault. Men who do not want to spend time with their own sons due to selfishness. They would rather lay them on the hands of women and the educational system, to go drink and watch sports with the buddies.

>> No.17281117

>>17281109
There is truth to that, however women have most of these jobs and lobby to perpetuate the system. Each generation the public school system will get larger and will more deeply replace the concept of family and every generation it will become more authoritative.

>> No.17281137

>>17280932
This is a perfect articulation of thoughts I've had for a while about women but haven't been able to express.
>Eros is an expression of their true nature, while their Logos is often only a regrettable accident.
Perfectly sums it up. Guess I'll have to read Jung now

>> No.17281144

>>17281137
Man and his symbols

>> No.17281154

>>17281049
unironically kill yourself, hole

>> No.17281159

>>17281137
While the above recommendation isn't bad, I suggest skipping Man and His Symbols and starting with Two Essays on Analytical Psychology instead. Jung wrote Man and His Symbols in English to introduce his ideas to a popular audience worldwide, so it's not as in depth as one would expect. The Two Essays, however, is a kino indepth introduction also discussing some previous philosophers.

>> No.17281215

>>17281117
There is nothing that can misguide a boy that has received due attention, education, and discipline personally from his father, so as to become his role model. That's why the current narrative is so unrelenting in it's attack to the institution of the family and particularly the figure of the father.
>Each generation the public school system will get larger and will more deeply replace the concept of family and every generation it will become more authoritative.
Check this.
>In advertising, (((Bernays and Lippmann))) saw the practical application of the lessons the had learned in the CPI during the war. The rise of advertising meant the erosion of parents, tradition, and religion as authority figures and their replacement with "science" and brand names, endorsed by scientists.
>By May 1930 Watson was giving talks entitled "After the Family - What?" [...]. Scientific sex education like scientific child rearing became a way of taking authority away from parents and handing it over to psycho-technicians, "experts", who provide "services formerly provided by families themselves".
You were raised by the educational system by women who don't care about you, not because of an organic deterioration of culture, but due to an organized, concerted effort to destroy the authority of the family and turn you into a bugman.

>> No.17281226

>>17280971
I told the story of my history teacher here the other night, who made us write notes for every paragraph in each chapter of the entire textbook. He would smack you with a stick and jump on your desk and yell at you, but everyone loved him because he held us all exactly to that high standard and even his punishment was usually pretty funny and lighthearted. If you didnt do your work you became the target of some rather unpleasant but also usually funny punishment. You might get paddled in front of the class, but it wasn't some shameful sadomasochism, or a crisis that required counciling. It was the whole class laughing because you made yourself the butt of a joke by being lazy.

Women want to fuck with your spirit when they punish you. They can't see the humor in kids thinking they can get away with laziness. It has to become melodrama

>> No.17281228

>>17280971
Women should only be allowed to rear young children. Since they're childlike themselves, they struggle to do well with childrearing by the time children start their path towards adulthood.

>> No.17281251

>>17280932
One of his books recently got re-released here and I remember reading a funny anecdote when I was flipping through the book at a local bookstore, it was about the weird phenomenon of large female dogs acting submissive around patently smaller male dogs for no real reason besides submission being the female dog's natural/baseline reaction when interacting with male dogs.

>> No.17281260

>>17280990
>Why not ask the schizophrenic hobo
If it makes you seethe, I might as well. :)
Damn the seething is delightful in this thread. The best part is that he is fully and unequivocally right.

>> No.17281262

>>17280990
triggered roast detected

>> No.17281267

>>17281228
The problem is that the kind of men who tolerate modern school structures are only there to fuck kids or teacher's assistants. Any reasonable man won't tolerate the discipline system and shitty curriculum in modern American schools.

There was a whole generation of men from the Vietnam era that were veterans who went into education who still taught in public schools. They were usually a gym teacher or coach who also taught math science or history. The good ones were NCOs who were good with people and still wanted to lead people after they got out. I know a few teachers who are my age, and they become teachers because they arent good at any thing IRL and they are all heavy drinkers or potheads

>> No.17281273

Men are even better at cooking women are given the easiest of tasks and manage to fuck that shit up too

>> No.17281283

>>17281267
I never cease to be depressed by how thoroughly gutted one of the most respectable professions, teaching, became. I strongly considered becoming a teacher myself but eventually I ended up deciding against it because I knew I couldn't handle either the youth of today or the neutered curriculum I would have had to teach in the long term.

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>>17280932
>Often the man has the feeling—and he is not altogether wrong—that only seduction or a beating or rape would have the necessary power of persuasion.
holy fucking based

>> No.17281293

>>17281226
That's a great anecdote as it illustrates why women should never hold authority, ever.
A woman in power inevitably becomes a tyrant.

>> No.17281303

>>17281283
>the neutered curriculum I would have had to teach in the long term.
Not just that. All of your bosses and coworkers would be women. Just imagine that kind of atmosphere.
Whenever women are in power, reason is out of thew question. Whims and emotions become the true rulers.

>> No.17281318

>>17281303
Yeah, I should have extended the first point to apply not only to the students, but the general milieu. Occasionally I have to work with groups that are like 90% women and despite those not in the know believing that it's like some sort of harem anime for me, it's fucking nightmarish. If I ever have to endure it for any longer than a couple sessions I'll probably die of estrogen poisoning.

>> No.17281365

>>17280971
I had a bitch teacher who bullied me to the point where I dropped out

>> No.17281374

>>17280971
one time in kindergarten i said the word underpants and the teacher's aide (woman) sent me to the teacher (younger woman) who yelled at me for saying it

same teacher tried to hold me back for having shitty handwriting even though my dominant arm was in a cast for 6 weeks when we were learning to write by hand

>> No.17281425

>>17281374
I had a similarly minded PE teacher who for some reason held a grudge against me despite me being one of the best-performing boys in class and never provoking her or talking back to her. I had an accident during the last year during which I injured my knee, and our new stamina examination was about running about two thirds of the length of the gym arena (about 35m or so, IIRC) before doing a 180 turn and repeating this until you can't keep pace with the teacher's whistling. I was like 70% healed but my knee was in nowhere near good enough condition to do this sort of examination. I told her that I would prefer to do something else that is less taxing on my knee, since in the past she allowed alternative examinations for students who had similar issues. She told me to forget it and just run the original exercise. Unsurprisingly it went like shit and it was quite humiliating to fall out before some of the fitter girls did.

>> No.17281447

>>17281425
>boy having female PE teacher
What the fuck? Are you American?

>> No.17281483

>>17281447
No, Hungarian. She was a failed almost-decent gymnast during commie times. She never could live her failure down. Somehow I think she just had a vendetta against men in general.

>> No.17281498

>>17281483
>Somehow I think she just had a vendetta against men in general.
It absolutely is. Single mothers are infamous for emasculating and psychologically abusing their sons out of spite for the father. You probably reminded her of some man she hated. Possibly even her father.

>> No.17281528

>>17281498
God knows. She had a daughter, so she wasn't a cat lady, nor was I THAT good to be some sort unwilling avatar of the failure that haunted her. Her stewing in her own bitterness just probably made her really cunty after all that time that has passed since her heyday.

>> No.17281542

>>17281528
I suppose it's worth elaborating on that she had some sort of dislike of us boys, but the weird part of it was how specific she was about being cunty particularly when it came to me despite me being quite reserved and polite in comparison to the other boys.

>> No.17281567

>>17281498
>Single mothers are infamous for emasculating and psychologically abusing their sons out of spite for the father.
Not that anon, but this rings very true to me. I remember growing up that my mother always shamed me for "acting like my father" (who she would always curse and badmouth to me) anytime I showed any sign of independence from her. I even remember her techniques of manipulation: one time when I was a teenager she came to my room, holding a picture of me and pretending to talk to the picture, saying that her son (the picture of me) was loving and faithful but he is dead now and she wishes her son back. I am just happy that I was able to run away from her as soon as I turned 18. Am I really to be blamed if I hate women?

>> No.17281568

>>17281542
It's worth mentioning that some women feel a visceral revulsion towards reserved and polite men. It's precisely your niceness which she hated..

>> No.17281590

>>17281567
>Am I really to be blamed if I hate women?
No. It makes me livid just to read it. Can't imagine what you must feel.
Read Sex and Character by Otto Weininger.

>> No.17281595

>>17280932
As a man I feel attacked.

>> No.17281613

>>17280932
>Often the man has the feeling—and he is not altogether wrong—that only seduction or a beating or rape would have the necessary power of persuasion.
kek
Based Jung

>> No.17281615

>>17281590
Thanks for the rec, I'll check it out. Yeah, at any rate, I can at least blame a part of my psychological dysfunction on her. The craziest part is that at the moment you don't realize what she's doing is out of the ordinary and abnormal. It feels perfectly normal and you feel guilty for it. Only now that I look back I realize how fucked up she was.

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I had an abusive female teacher in high school too. Would always single me out and berate me with particularly hostile language if ever I got a question wrong or if ever she felt as if I'd shown "attitude" towards her. Kind of fucked up my self esteem for a long time. She would also abuse and bully her own son in the playground. Had lots of similarly horrible female teachers throughout high school. Feels bad man. I don't want to hate women but it's hard some times.

>> No.17281658

>>17280932
>>Anyone who still had enough sense of humour to listen objectively to the ensuing dialogue would be staggered by the vast number of commonplaces, misapplied truisms, cliches from newspapers and novels, shop-soiled platitudes of every description interspersed with vulgar abuse and brain-splitting lack of logic.

Goddamn.

>> No.17281673

>>17281658
Reminds one of those horrid “political” Instagram posts that all the women at my university put on their stories

>> No.17281683

>>17281374
I think a lot of women get off (as in literally sexually aroused) by psychologically abusing boys.

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>>17280932
>Often the man has the feeling—and he is not altogether wrong—that only seduction or a beating or rape would have the necessary power of persuasion.
VGH...I KNEEL

>> No.17281692

>>17280971
weirdly insightful
I actually had some pretty good female teachers when I was growing up, but in hindsight the very best were all old women who seemed to have a soft spot for me (with one she clearly had a soft spot for me in particular), and one a butch as fuck lesbian although I didn't know what a lesbian was at the time. Those ones were fantastic and I can still remember their names, and remember them telling me to not settle for anything other than everything I wanted from life.
But the young female teachers who dyed their hair, wore the stylish glasses, wore leather knee-length boots to fit in with the kids, who tried to joke along with the kids but also had to slap you around when you joined in to remind you they were in control of the classroom, those teachers were the fucking worst. Every fucking time, when there's a female teacher in her late 20s or early 30s who tries to make friends with the teenage girls, drop that fucking class like it's nuclear.

>> No.17281702

>>17281658
Whenever women argue, all they try to do is to get you emotional. Once you both are on the emotional battlefield, it's over. She won.
Always remember this. Everything she says must slide off you like rain off a raincoat. Keep a cool head and a logical mindframe, and observe how desperate she gets.

>> No.17281714

loving all these failed men trying to pin their fragile mindsets on women

>> No.17281719

>>17281714
was jung a failed man?

>> No.17281725

>>17281714
Cope. Kill yourself whore

>> No.17281735

>>17281719
no, he understood them. HOWEVER any man that doesnt understand the very simple fact that everything a woman does is a way of filtering weak males from the gene pool, is a man that deserves to be filtered.
Women are the most important part of humanity as they destroy any and all weak men and discard them to the genetic dustbin

>> No.17281738

Can you make these threads every day? It seems the frustrated incels flock to these threads like flies to shit, making the rest of the board cleaner.

>> No.17281743

>>17281735
really, so primary school boys who are psychologically abused by sadist female teachers are just being relegated to the "genetic dustbin" as you put it?

>> No.17281744

>>17281735
I do agree quiet a bit, but most anons complaining ITT are complaining about female abuse in an early age. What could a little boy do to save himself from an abusive single mother or teacher?

>> No.17281752

>>17281738
I would make this thread everyday just to see you and your ilk seethe. The seething genuinely was genuinely uplifting for me.

>> No.17281753

>>17281744
At the moment he is a little boy? Probably nothing if he is not exceptional. But at some point during adulthood he has to become responsible for his choices and go beyond his previous conditioning without projecting his weaknesses on all the women that have wronged him. Otherwise he is not a man, just a child that remains at the whims of every random situation that happens in his life

>> No.17281755

>>17281744
Nothing, they are dispossed from the gene pool by Fate itself.

>> No.17281757

>>17281702
It really is incredible how women resort to emotion once they run out of stock responses. There are of course exceptions, but the vast majority of women, even those in my family who are generally very intelligent, are completely incapable of arguing the point beyond reciting talking points. My brother and myself both think for ourselves in terms of politics (though he is still young, and his ideology is hardly developed at all). By contrast, my sisters (who are just as intelligent) unquestioningly ate up the doctrines of progressive ideology.

>> No.17281758

>>17281743
they are being tested, some wont make it. And thats fine as others will become stronger due to it

>> No.17281765

>>17280932
dude like Im not claiming all women are angels or anything but wtf is wrong with y'all? don't you have any sisters? mothers? this thread is disgusting

>> No.17281775

>>17281758
no they aren't you fool. there can be no excuse for that kind of behavior from adults towards children.
>filtered
>weak males
>genetic dustbin
all this rhetoric just makes me think you're an angry incel yourself.

>> No.17281779

>>17281775
you are not mature enough to understand yet so you probably got filtered already. There's no point in talking to you anymore

>> No.17281780

>>17281753
That is, in effect, what he should do. But note that trauma could remain unsolved all your life and turn into complexes. Especially, such a sensitive thing as the imago of the Woman that was being formed in his developing years. All the complains ITT are justified, you just seem to have taken offense on your Womanhood.

>> No.17281784

>>17281779
I understand perfectly, that you're a moron.

>> No.17281793

>>17281780
Then you can keep your justifications and march with them to your grave, others that have gone beyond justification can carry on the legacy of humanity

>> No.17281796

>>17281765
>Sisters
whores
>mother
whore

>> No.17281797

>>17281765
Precisely because we have mothers and sisters we know how they truly act when not inhibited by the desire to come off as a nice person in front of strangers.

>> No.17281807

>>17281793
Why do women view men as reproduction engines? I admitted earlier that men of such fate should accept it and try to improve. I am, however, sympathetic to the pain of my brothers who have gone through these horrible experiences. But then here you are with your cold Darwinian takes.

>> No.17281816

>>17281807
"cold" "darwinian" "reproduction engines". You are living in a world of symbols that do not exist in reality and try to impose morality where there is none.
A woman has the incentive to optimize for the most suitable man and everything she does is towards this goal. Everything else is just a game that fits this goal, most men are schizophrenics living in a dream world

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>>17281683
I'll remember this next time my mom tries to fuck with me and ruin my day/life (any time she opens her mouth)

>> No.17281820

>>17281735
based until
>Women are the most important part of humanity
which is just stupid for obvious reasons

>> No.17281828

>>17281735
It's this psychology that threw healthy children into the waters at Philippi to appease pagan gods

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incels in this thread be like

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>>17281816
We aren't chimps living in a state of nature you faggot retard. If women had their way and selected exclusively for confident antisocial chads to the exclusion of the greater male population, then society would eventually collapse as those men lost their sole incentive to keep it functioning. What women want is completely antithetical to the proper functioning of society. Fuck what women want.

>> No.17281838

>>17281757
As >>17280984 pointed out, women only repeat what the official narrative is, given to them by the perceived moral authority. This used to be their fathers (which is a good thing) but now that the family has been deconstructed, they receive it from social engineers and advertising experts.
Women are not "leaders" (as in autonomous thinkers), but followers. They care more about belonging than about Truth, which is what Jung said in other words.
>In women, on the other hand, Eros is an expression of their true nature, while their Logos is often only a regrettable accident.

>> No.17281842

>>17281835
thats exactly whats happening now with dating apps lol

>> No.17281844

>>17281835
Pure cope.

>> No.17281851

>>17281835
>What women want is completely antithetical to the proper functioning of society. Fuck what women want.
Absolutely based. Our ancestors knew this. That's why they have never given a fuck about what women said and simply did what they knew was right regardless.

>> No.17281853

>>17281844
No it's actually reality. Happening right now. We are reverting back to caveman tiers of sexual morality. It's quite a sight to behold.

>> No.17281856

>>17281816
>A woman has the incentive to...
Here lies the problem. The woman only seers her own evolutionary incentive, looking to catch the most resourceful mate, while the men are noticing a societal structure in which women are allowed to maximize their "incentive" will only lead to societal unrest and eventually collapse. We will, in effect, return to Hobbes' "state of nature", each man incentivizing on their own, no civilization, no culture--pure barbarism. I understand the inherent animalistic drive you feel. But if men are expected to subdue their brute side and not rape anyone on sight, then a similar subduing must also apply to women. Not everything in the world is pure evolutionary incentive.

>> No.17281862

>>17281844
Hypergamy and civilization are incompatible. Every single civilization has conceived the notion of marriage.

>> No.17281863

>>17281856
>Not everything in the world is pure evolutionary incentive.
Cope.

>> No.17281870

>>17281862
Humanity is incompatible with civilization. This is why we're regressing into barbarism and why we must escape our inferior human bodies through transhumanism as soon as we can. Human civilization is a lie, we were never meant to be civilized.

>> No.17281871

>>17281856
men are expected to subdue their brute side and not only are they expected, they are forced by the government and laws. There are no such inhibitions set for women. If you rape you are jailed for life, if you marry a man and divorce him for his resources you are fully entitled to do so and are encouraged by the state.
You will never rape anyone

>> No.17281880

>>17281061
That's odd, when I was in High school my female teachers always encouraged me and treated me really well, despite being a rather shy and withdrawn kid

>> No.17281890

>>17281871
I grant this is the current state of affairs. But how strong do you think the civilization you reside in is? If some augmented flu nearly stopped everything, what else do you think your government would manage to endure? As I see it, things are very flexible under the right circumstances.

>> No.17281903

>>17280932
The issue is men trying to communicate with logic, you don't need to beat up a woman or rape her to make her listen to you. Literally, all you have to do is listen, repeat what she says back to her (Not to submit to her view, but to make her understand that you understand her). That's literally all.
If men were truly logical, they would do this instead of reacting emotionally and insisting the issue must be resolved logically, or otherwise there's some kinda demonic virtue about all women. (Don't you see the irony?)

>> No.17281952

>>17281903
A secretly insightful post, I see.

>> No.17281956

>>17281903
the problem is men think they communicate with logic, but are actually as emotional as women. And most of the times they are under the impression that they're smarter because they have a number of contradicting ideas in their mind which they confuse with depth.

>> No.17281957

>>17281870
>Humanity is incompatible with civilization.
>Human civilization is a lie, we were never meant to be civilized.
Nope. Civilization is a human expression born logically out of our inherent capacity to reason. Because we can reason, we can also discern good from evil. Because we can discern good from evil, we can't possibly live under the laws of nature like animals. It is inhuman to do so.
>This is why we're regressing into barbarism
We're regressing into barbarism because we have started to act like animals again. Case in point, sexual liberation.
>and why we must escape our inferior human bodies through transhumanism as soon as we can.
That would finally dehumanize mankind.
I hope you're just young. You're very misguided.

>> No.17281970

>>17281903
>The issue is men trying to communicate with logic
No shit.

>> No.17281972

>>17281956
>but are actually as emotional as women
Men can be feminine, yes, but this is not a masculine trait. What is masculine is to tame your passions under the reins of reason.

>> No.17281979

>>17281956
The trouble is that women have no ideas in their minds at all. It can be very frustrating to attempt to reason with them. Women accuse men of being autists incapable of seeing all the other shades of grey, but very often there is no such need when the solution to whatever problem is so obvious. Women are the ones who needlessly complicate everything, not men.

>> No.17281982

>>17281903
>otherwise there's some kinda demonic virtue about all women
What the fuck do you mean by this?
>Literally, all you have to do is listen, repeat what she says back to her (Not to submit to her view, but to make her understand that you understand her). That's literally all.
If only it was that easy...

>> No.17281983

>>17281972
yes yes nice idealism however most men I have seen shit themselves at the slightest provocation from women, they're actually more fearful than women in most situations

>> No.17281988

>>17281979
They got a problem for every solution

>> No.17281993
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Woman is a riddle that has not been solved. I have faith that women will reveal themselves as more than deficient men, as other than men and independent of essence, but it may only be in some far-off Age of Aquarius. In the meantime, I hate women I hate women I hate women.

>> No.17281998

>>17281993
They have long been "solved" my nigger. Just read Jung and his predecessors.

>> No.17282003

>>17281993
ah yes the legendary man that solves his problems with logic and reason

>> No.17282005

>>17281983
>most men I have seen
Well, there you go. The absolute state of modern "men". Just weak and spiritually feminine.

>> No.17282011

>>17282003
Whiny wet dishrag

>> No.17282019

>>17282003
Then what tool should we employ? "Feminine intuition"?
lmao

>> No.17282024

>>17281215
>There is nothing that can misguide a boy that has received due attention, education, and discipline personally from his father, so as to become his role model.
Vindicated.

>> No.17282034

>>17282019
try logic and reason for once

>> No.17282043

>>17282034
So you reason you cannot solve your problems with reason?
You fucking smartass

>> No.17282054

>>17282034
I have. It's pretty good. I would even suggest you a few books on pure logic, but the Divine Feminine seems anathematic to logic and reason for some reason.

>> No.17282088

this man is considered a major intellectual in the west.

how embarrassing

>> No.17282090

>>17282054
>the Divine Feminine seems anathematic to logic and reason for some reason.
Yes. Women naturally find order boring. They are attracted to chaos.
This is why one of the best ways of keeping relationship alive is to make her cry and to make her angry once in a while. They love a man who is just a little mean to them. They don't like tranquility. That constant process of conflict and reconciliation is what makes them feel "alive".

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>>17282054
>I have. It's pretty good. I would even suggest you a few books on pure logic, but the Divine Feminine seems anathematic to logic and reason for some reason.

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>>17282093
>>17282093
>>17282093

>> No.17282109

>>17282093
Kek, when I see these reaction images I know that I have caused serious seething. Feels good man.

>> No.17282131

>>17282109
Yeah the people who post those always seem to be broadcasting "I'm an outsider, I'm unironically mad, I hate being here and I'm shaking my fist at you in impotent rage"

I never understand why they post them.

>> No.17282142

>>17281982
>If only it was that easy...
Works for me, every single time. Detach, reacting emotionally is behaving like a woman

>> No.17282170

>>17282142
Ok, I will try it. It better work you bastard.
But wait a minute. What if you're trying to make her do something or stop doing something? Will it still work?

>> No.17282178

>>17282088
why is it embarrassing?

>> No.17282220

>>17280971
Female teachers are cunts. Damn near every female authority figure in the school system tried to ruin my life in one form or another. Actual misandrists who openly said they hated men and boys and they were spreading it among the girls, too. Same goes for faggots. Goddamn faggot teachers and kids were just as bad.

>> No.17282232

>>17282170
It depends on what it is, but you'll find they are way more likely to listen to you if you do this first, that works for men aswell.

>> No.17282241

>>17282220
You guys had really bad experiences, my female teachers were literally like mothers to me, I still remember my science teacher. Not only was she hot as fuck, she always encouraged me to do better

>> No.17282256

>>17282241
Do you ever wish you were more aware of your sexuality as a preteen so you could try to get molested by your hot teachers?

>> No.17282268

>>17282256
What, bro you're messed up

>> No.17282272

>>17282256
No, but I have found myself wishing I was more aware of how to fuck early on when I was playing doctors back then. At least I got some blowies

>> No.17282293

women are nice to you when you are young if you are decent looking and smart, otherwise they're cunts. This thread is proof what 0 pussy does to a mf

>> No.17282304

>>17282293
Women are most cruel when you're young. Young men have nothing but their looks to distinguish them because even if they're brilliant women are too dumb to notice brilliance. Women can only see status and clout. I got laid most in my late 20s because I had clout and was surrounded by women who were lower on the food chain and valued it. Made me realize how shallow and kneejerk their attraction is. They can't distinguish good men from bad.

They see men in their own age cohort as babyfaced immature fags even though they are much more immature.

>> No.17282318

>>17282293
Now as a grown man, women are nice. But we are talking about institutional abuse of male children by the unionized cunt brigade. Two different things.

>> No.17282330

>>17282304
women want men for clout, men want women for physical beauty and youth. Whats the fucking problem? Its not like anyone can claim the moral highground

>> No.17282335

>>17282304
Reality: posted.

>> No.17282350

Itt: bitter young men who need to let go because the only people they're fucking over is themselves

>> No.17282360

>>17282350
I would say mostly just men who have been genuinely fucked over by women and want to vent.

>> No.17282371

>>17282360
>genuinely fucked over by women and want to vent.
Sure, but if you continue to hold on to your emotions post venting you're doing yourself a disservice

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>>17282371
don't tell me how to feel faggot

>> No.17282383

>>17282376
you will never be a man

>> No.17282385

>>17282371
I don't know about the others, but posting in the thread was very cathartic for me. I'm glad I participated.

>> No.17282389

>>17282385
Based, I am glad we can all come together and support one another

>>17282383
FUCKING KILL YOURSELF TRANNY NOBODY WANTS YOU HERE AND EVEN YOU DON'T WANT TO BE HERE

>> No.17282427

>>17282385
Good for you brother, like I said as long as you let go and move on its all gravy

>> No.17283019

>>17281025
>basedjak posting
You have to go back

>> No.17283222

>>17281735
>just let women in charge of a gigantic eugenics program
I'd take even the 1900 Fabian society delusional views on the subject over womanly selection instincts. Women in charge of "gene selection" is how you take 500 million years to have opposable thumbs by accident, whereas <10k years of patriarchy (that is, bypassing feminine feeling) brought us high civilization by design.

>> No.17283560

>>17281738
I have a wife and kids. You are merely attempting to discourage the telling of truth.

>> No.17283562

>>17281755
>yet women don't have this self-disposal function

So women never improve the gene pool. Got it.

>> No.17283569

>>17281753
Venting about abuse is not projecting, however your completely unscientific hypothesis on evolution is deep deep projection

>> No.17283574

>>17281765
>claim abuse
>hey I was abused too
>ree this thread is disgusting

You're evil.

>> No.17283579

>>17281793
Stating memories about abuse has nothing to do with choosing to breed, get your head out of your cunt.

>> No.17283593

>>17281863
You must adopt a longer term and more cooperative evolutionary strategy, there are upper bounds to the games of evolution. You will return us to monke with your selfishness.

>> No.17283605

>>17281983
Probably ptsd from their childhood

>> No.17283609

>>17282034
Do you not know what those words mean?

>> No.17283623

>>17282293
I got loads of pussy and still do m8, didn't stop my female teachers from trying to make me hate myself

>> No.17283626

>>17280932
>>Anyone who still had enough sense of humour to listen objectively to the ensuing dialogue would be staggered by the vast number of commonplaces, misapplied truisms, cliches

... Pot, kettle, something something.

>> No.17283637

>>17282385
This. Felt great.
>>17282371
You shouldn't assume anyone is holding onto these emotions. We aren't women.

>> No.17283648

>>17283626
Jung is the heavyweight champ of abstract knowledge he is the keeper of the portals of esoteric knowledge you will never grasp what he knows to any comparable degree.

>> No.17283658

>>17283648
take your meds

>> No.17283662

>>17283658
Read Jung

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>>17283648
>Jung is the heavyweight champ of abstract knowledge

Lol that would be Husserl you massive idiot.

>> No.17283693

>>17283666
Jung > Husserl

Simple as

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>>17283574
Women have zero empathy for the suffering of any man or boy.

They see any candid discussion of sexual dynamics as a threat to the sexual freedom and choice of women as a whole, something they view as a zero sum game. When her sexual choices are threatened, she feels existential terror and lashes out.

>> No.17283736

>>17283693
Based and knowledgable

>> No.17283744

>>17283725
My bestfriend's wife told me she can't tell other women her pregnancy went easy because they're too evil to be happy for you.

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Holy kek at scrolling through this thread, shills are having a field day today on /lit/.

>> No.17283777

>>17280971
Lol you made me remember my english teacher when I was 11, she fucking broke into tears in front of the class because I corrected her pronunciation of a word and she was super irritable cuz of pregnancy

>> No.17283787

>>17280991
>the man
I think he is talking about himself

>> No.17283805

I remember a teacher locking at me like I was a pathetic thing when i asked him what communism was.
I was 9 or 8

>> No.17283814

>>17281735
I guess we should only breed Justin Bieber and k-pop stars

>> No.17283816

>>17283805

He was probably more annoyed to be put into the position of having to explain it to you at that age. I honestly can't think of anyone who would expect a kid of 8~9 to have a clear understanding of it anyways. Ffs I remember when I was 15, for some fucking reason all my friends thought being left meant being conservative and right meant being progressive, I wanted to blow my brains out.

>> No.17283882

>>17280990
I'd like to hear your opinion on the nature of women. It would be very interesting getting a woman's perspective on this.

>> No.17283898

>>17281283
If one should become a teacher they should work at a private school. They don't have to use common core or any standards required of the public school system. They make their own rules.

>> No.17283980

>>17280971
While I've had several decent female teachers, you've brought up a very distinct memory. In an AP English class, we were told to write an essay on concepts or ideas that were considered 'subjective.' The smart arse I was I wanted to write about how time, or rather the perception of time passing, was a subjective experience that we've made rules around.

This made her inexplicably mad, and when I was told to change topics, even referencing the previous subject I wanted to write on nearly got me into a "parent-teacher discussion." I still don't know why she considered time so objective and sacred.

>> No.17284002

>>17280990
hey baby i love osho
i fuckin hate jung
wanna voice call on discord or no
im high

>> No.17284016

>>17280971
Outrageously astute & based.
F*male psyche is a disaster and female care only suited for the first years of one's life. After a certain age only men should be educators.

>> No.17284067

Girls want to be gazed at by handsome men, which would appear to be great entertainers ,especially sexually, and free of charge since girls want men to pay for the seduction. for instance a girl refuses to pay or work for sex. It's always the man who must pay and amuse the girl . it's the competition. WOmen do nto compete for men


Now it turns out 99% of men are not handsome and worse, women hate when repulsive men even think of having a chance with them.

So the problem for a girl is really her won making: a girl lives a lavish life from the male competition for her, and from this male despair of winning the competition, as usual, some men don't take well the defeat and some men cheat, some men go over the line.

ALL of this is due to the men putting women and their conception at the center of their life.
Men put women on a pedestal only because women benefit from this, women leech off men.

THis parasitic life of the female works well on a global scale, but there will always be fuck ups.
THis is the price to pay by women-as-a-whole.

Even the life of a woman is not entirely free of charge and the price is just having to deal with the few mean who overstep their bounds.

ALthough to be fair, when a woman FEELS (and it's all what is relevant) harassed, she starts crying and due to the competitive nature of the female-male relation, the males orbiting her will start defending her free of charge (as usual, men don't have the luxury to make women pay for the male service) and trying to solve her problems.

Males actually love to be disposable. The whole drive of a male is to be acknowledged as being useful. Men are the proletariat.

THis is why women are capitalistic and men are communist.

>> No.17284072

>>17283562
Men will not marry an unattractive woman.

>> No.17284102

>>17283648
Jung impresses atheist and vaginas only

>> No.17284149

>>17284072
wrong
>>17284102
Also wrong

>> No.17284163

>>17284149
*An unattractive man will marry an unattractive woman.

>> No.17284204

>>17284072
not true imo
many cases of, for example, celebrities with ugly wives
it does happen!

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>>17280971
unequivocally based

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>>17283980

>> No.17284272

How to understand and integrate anima? Do you really have to do the same with shadow first?

>> No.17284322

>>17280971
Jesus Christ, you just unlocked some ancient memories for me.

>> No.17284356

>>17281765
I do and I love them, and this is still painfully accurate in general.

>> No.17284385

>>17281753
>>17281755
>>17281735
Wait a minute, these people are genuinely evil.

>> No.17284450

>>17281735
>Women are the most important part of humanity as they destroy any and all weak men and discard them to the genetic dustbin
women's conception of "strong" man is 8+/10 Chad with jaw that can cut through diamond, not Newton or Napoleon

>> No.17284471

>>17284450

Up until they are put in a social context, buddy. Then they are attracted to power and comfort way more than cum gutters.

>> No.17284513

>>17284163
Low income men will marry unattractive women*

Many low income chads. I know a few of them, married total cows and horses and they could do significantly better but don't.

>> No.17284594

>>17283777
my female English teacher didn't know the word ''tuition''. She wrote a question mark next to it and told me not to make up words.

>> No.17284639

>>17281215
>You were raised by the educational system by women who don't care about you, not because of an organic deterioration of culture, but due to an organized, concerted effort to destroy the authority of the family and turn you into a bugman.
This is unironically correct. There are so many men today who are successful but unhappy. By contrast, there are an overwhelming number of mediocre men who have completely drunk the kool aid and are completely happy with the status quo, despite being no better off than the ones who are unhappy. The bugmen of reddit, who aspire to be nothing more than consumers and doormats for their gfs, as they were conditioned to since birth.

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It's all truly disheartening Anons.
While I'm unconvinced that there's too strong a difference between the races to warrant being racist, the sex problem haunts me deeply. I grew up with the idea that men were stronger and faster, but at least women were more empathic and spiritual, with the childlike logic of a "balanced" videogame where all classes have a shot at things.

But time and time again I'm proven wrong, men are stronger, faster, smarter, more spiritual and philosophical and whole, and I'm not even saying it as a great triumph, I didn't choose to be born a man. But when you point this out you get the expected result: weird looks at best, outright outrage most of the time.

Women complain about periods and cramps and being intellectually stunted every single month, and yet if you ask them of the hypothetical of a pill or machine to supress these curses, they lash out. "I wouldn't be a woman anymore!". How can it be so? Akin to someone with non-functioning autism not wanting to get cured because they have no identity beyond their tics and shrieks and habits.

I don't want to be a sexist (as in believing men are just superior), I really don't, but...

>> No.17284706

>>17284067
>THis is why women are capitalistic and men are communist.
Eh. In a communist society, intangibles such as social capital are paramount compared to a capitalistic society. When everyone is given the same economic resources (in theory), the intangible stuff like fame, fear, and raw human nature matter way more.

I think it is more accurate to say men are capitalistic since they are the ones who want to buy sex. In no other society can they exchange goods earned in the material world for intangibles like love and affection. Women will do well regardless of what society they're in, barring one that outright oppresses them.

>> No.17284720

>>17284648
So you haven't read Bell Curve?

>> No.17284723

>>17284648
>Women complain about periods and cramps and being intellectually stunted every single month, and yet if you ask them of the hypothetical of a pill or machine to supress these curses, they lash out. "I wouldn't be a woman anymore!".
i think this part of your post is weirdest, because women definitely do take the pill to not get their period as often

>> No.17284741

>>17284720
>You're only sexist? be racist too!
It's too nuanced (and offtopic) a discussion to have right now.

>>17284723
Is it the majority? I thought it caused nausea and other side effects not everyone would prefer over the normal thing. Regardless, have you no comment on the other things? I just want a whitepill.

>> No.17284775

>>17284741
>Is it the majority? I thought it caused nausea and other side effects not everyone would prefer over the normal thing. Regardless, have you no comment on the other things? I just want a whitepill.
I don't know, for both of us it's anecdotal I assume, depends on the woman in question. How bad the side effects are for them and how they weigh that vs period, but I've never met anyone who told me taking the pill would make them not a woman
As far as the rest of the post goes I guess I'd agree generally, I don't really think women are capable of love towards anyone other than their child

>> No.17284876

>>17284775

What if women were actually capable of genuine love toward men? Would humanity be different today?

>> No.17285015

How many of you anons received genuine love from you mother? I'm under the impression a lot of you received abuse at the hands of women and thus resent the whole of the fairer sex.

>> No.17285070

>>17285015
My mother loved me as a child, at least as far as I can tell. The problem comes when most arguments with her -and many other women in my life- are about them being suddenly irrational; either blowing a problem out of proportion, or claiming a solution is more complicated than it really is, or my favorites, taking a negative observation as a personal attack, or skewing reality to make me sound worse

i.e.: if I didn't do the dishes two days in a row I'd hear "you NEVER do the dishes". If I had a habit that annoyed her after two or three times, I'd hear "you ALWAYS do this". I may be too autistic and sharing too much, I just want to know if others have gone through this.

Two weeks later I'd then hear "I was on my period lol" or "you were right but it's still your fault (somehow)" and that just made me more and more resentful. Men don't seem to have this problem among themselves very often, and any attempts to clarify dialogue or improve communication is taken as too autistic or too condescending. What would you do in this position?

>> No.17285114

>>17285015
>a lot of you received abuse at the hands of women
Yeah, in my case it was my mom being an idiot, my older sister being arrogant and always putting me down, and my younger sister manipulating and lying to get me in trouble. My father was mostly absent from my childhood.

It was only as an adult when I started to meet actual women that I realized not all women were like this. But by then it was too late. I think my sexuality was permanently damaged from a combination of my abusive family and the way I retreated into porn as a young boy.

>> No.17285162

All females should be killed at birth prove me wrong.

>> No.17285176

>>17285162
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GKBtMLOC2oU

>> No.17285204

>>17285162
But how would we get BOOBA?

>> No.17285216

>>17285015
My mother is a saint and the only good woman I'm aware of

>> No.17285942

>>17283648
this

>> No.17285980

>>17280932

>Their Eros
>Their Logos
>The animus of their anima

Psychoanalysis is literally a bunch of mysticism, what a joke.

>> No.17285992

>>17285980
>t. brainlet

>> No.17285997

>>17285980
Obviously he defines the words in the previous passages. Read books.

>> No.17286033

If you want to know the absolute state of intelligence of women, go read philosophy books written by supposedly “top” women. It’s usually utterly mediocre and cliche and they can only do moral philosophy while only being able to parrot theoretical ideas from male philosophers. If they are the cream of female minds, imagine the dreadful state of average females. Women are beautiful, soft and seductive but rarely go over those qualities.

>> No.17286146

>>17281765
did you even read the thread? some people are just talking about isolated incidents of abuse by female authority figures. this is not some PUA think tank

>> No.17286182

>>17285980

Correct

>> No.17286237

>>17280989
>>>/lgbt/

>> No.17286254

>>17285070
I’m glad you’ve shared this. My father is the one who is the irrational one who uses emotional arguments. Oddly enough my mother is typically far more rational that my father. She is perhaps the most rational woman I’ve met. She also never lies. I’ve tried to discuss these problems with my father but he always falls into the same habit again. I’m an extremely moody person and I suspect its something I’ve gotten from him. Your best bet at improving your situation is to be as calm and rational as possible. Don’t engage on an emotional level if you can help it. This has helped me on multiple occasions.

>> No.17286270

>>17285980
This isn't psychoanalysis, it's analytical psychology.

>> No.17286312

>>17286254
What a dreadful typo

>> No.17286335

>>17285070
>taking a negative observation as a personal attack
tfw my mother takes negative observations about misfunctioning devices as a personal attack

>> No.17286579

>>17280971
like the other replies, this has reminded me of female teachers when i was a kid.
we had this one bitch who screamed at me for about twenty minutes for not having respect when i was about nine because i was helping my friend with his spelling and said 'you can remember how to spell "soldier" because soldier's "die"'. Her husband was in the army. would any man be so unbeleivably imature as to blatently take their anxieties about their retard grunt husband out on a nine year old. Any reasonable man would be humiliated to do something so unbelievably cope.
Women have no self-control or abuility to attempt to see themselves from the outside. The jews may have fucked the west but women have been their biggest social avatars

>> No.17286593

>>17280981
filtered. go back.

>> No.17286615

>>17280989
okay, semite.

>> No.17286621

>>17281833
i didn't think it was possible to talk like a nigger and a semite at once

>> No.17286633

>>17281993
>Woman is a riddle
Is she? Women in general are quite simple in nature. You seem to be conflating emotional volatility with emotional complexity.

>> No.17286669

>>17283666
husserls a fag

>> No.17286709

>>17286621
>semite
you're a retard

>> No.17286722

>>17281049
Anyone who still had enough sense of humour to listen objectively to the ensuing dialogue would be staggered by the vast number of commonplaces, misapplied truisms, cliches from newspapers and novels, shop-soiled platitudes of every description interspersed with vulgar abuse and brain-splitting lack of logic. It is a dialogue which, irrespective of its participants, is repeated millions and millions of times in all the languages of the world and always remains essentially the same.
Just repeating for emphasis

>> No.17286794

>>17280971
I remember when I was around 8 years old I sneezed and because was raised in a Catholic home I was told you were supposed to say "God bless me/you." Well, I did that once when I sneezed and the cunt teacher glared at me at told me to "take a timeout." I'll never forgive that bitch. Alright, blogpost over.

>> No.17286810

>>17286794
>Catholic home I was told you were supposed to say "God bless me/you.

Never heard "God bless me", it's always "Bless you". Still hypercunt move to put you on timeout for that though.

>> No.17286837

>>17283666
I don't even like Pharaoh.

>> No.17286866

>>17280971

A public school has the intellectual culture of a DMV waiting room

>> No.17286892

>>17280932
this is why men should be kept out of academia

>> No.17286922

>>17286892
why is that?

>> No.17286930

>>17281765
NPC response unironically. You cunts always gravitate to the word "disgusting".

>> No.17286949

>>17285070
Just do the dishes and ignore the nagging, you mom loves you and worked hard to raise you, she's entitled to being a bit annoying with you sometimes.
Take it from someone older who's regretting not being nicer to his mom with every passing year.

This will also improve your relationship with other women (but also don't be as tolerant with other women as you are with your mom).

>> No.17286971

As a woman, I feel that I can identify with what Jung says here, genuinely. Does Jung ever discuss how a female can override their nature?

>> No.17286984

>>17286794
I've never heard 'God bless me'.
Someone says 'Bless you' or you say 'pardon me'.
And I went to a rather traditional all boys Catholic school.

>> No.17286991

>>17286892
They made academia and sustained it for 2500 years.
W*men have ruined it in less than a century.
Bravo!

>> No.17287002

>>17284706
>Women will do well regardless of what society they're in, barring one that outright oppresses them.
Ironically women do best in societies that do “oppress” them. Not only does it save them from their awful inclinations, but they also actually enjoy being dominated by men and being told what to do. They will play the victim, yes, but they love that role anyways.

>> No.17287085

>>17283980
Have you forgotten time is a, how should we say it, ‘delicate’ topic for women?
That’s why she got mad. It’s hilarious how crazy these creatures are.

>> No.17287094

>>17280984
men in power, you mean her husband?

>> No.17287097

>>17286971
Yes, Jung's whole framework is geared towards psychological growth. The process for women would be "integrating the animus". von Franz writes about it in Man and His Symbols.

>> No.17287102

>>17280971
/thread
/board
/website

>> No.17287118

>>17287094
The husband has barely any power. The slightest display of power by him might very well lead to a divorce-rape.

>> No.17287268

>>17285216
Are you Italian or something?

>> No.17287299

>>17280932
well /lit/ what refutation do you offer

>> No.17287313

>>17285216
Is she Catholic?
I have this theory that the veneration of the image of the Virgin Mary is healthy to the female soul.

>> No.17287352

>>17286971
Do you really want to override your nature, or you just say this for attention and approval?

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>>17286810
>>17286984
>I've never heard 'God bless me'
Seems to be a common expression I heard when growing up in the Midwest. I was told you were supposed to say it because you were sneezing your soul out and the Devil could inhabit your body if you don't say it fast enough or have someone else say it for you. I wasn't trying to imply that all Catholics say that, it's just how I was raised.

>> No.17287409

>>17286971
Every single problem about female nature is solved by humility.
Then again, the same could be said about mankind in general...

>> No.17287660

I like women they're pretty :)

>> No.17287670

>>17287660
pretty retarded yes

>> No.17287704

>>17281025
why are you using memes made by nazis?

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>>17287660
>>17287670
HAHAHAHA

>> No.17287725

>>17287097
Badass. I’ll have to look into it, then.
>>17287409
I can agree with this. I find that my ego, particularly my ego as a woman, conflicts with my values and with my relationships. I fear that everything I do is deceitful, even if in a subconscious way.
>>17287352
I do genuinely wish to override this nature, but I’m never entirely sure if this desire is simply driven by the actual desire for approval. Maybe it is just to maintain this ego of mine, who knows. Regardless, I’d like to learn more about it all.

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>>17287725

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>>17281567
What a psycho, sorry, anon.
I guess don't turn into your mother, but reversed. She hated men (your father) and all that psychological damage was played out on a substitute male, you.
I have no idea if this is the case, but if you seek female hate threads or shit like that from /r9k/ or /pol/ you're going to add fuel to the fire of the dysfunction of hating women. Hate your mom, hate what modernity has turned women into, but find a good gf and don't do the shit your mom did to you to your (potential) daughter.

>> No.17287833

>>17283980
Based Kantian

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>>17287799

>> No.17287981

>>17281957
>That would finally dehumanize mankind.
Good.

>> No.17288021

>>17287832
>hate what modernity has turned women into
Not that anon but thanks for saying this

>> No.17288054

>>17287725
Read Crime and Punishment and imitate Sonya.
not her occupation, of course

>> No.17288264 [DELETED] 

>>17287094
>Implying that men currently act like men in marriages

>> No.17288276

>>17287094
>Implying that current "men" act like men

>> No.17288445

>>17286709
semite

>> No.17288553

>>17287094
men are not in control of marriages
women are, 70% (number goes up if she has a bachelors) of divorces are filed by women. they control it

>> No.17288578

>>17287948
good interaction

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This is a very interesting thread. Seems to show some people have a very narrow experience of women, however that the nature of women is the same in them all. A submissive (non-negative) woman and a kind, gentle male in a relationship is the ideal.
As many said earlier, resenting women because at face-value they provide no worth to your end goals is a dangerous game to play. Women nag for a reason.
Nagging is different than being a cunt however. In the end, if you are humble and forgiving, very few people, especially women, will be able to keep their absolutely defiled view of how to be.

>> No.17289030

>>17283222
This, lol

>> No.17289166

>>17281753
This.

I still grapple with how much my step-mother fucked me up emotionally. She was objectively just a distrusting and toxic person and even my older sister started avoiding visits to my father's place after a certain age, but I didn't have the smarts or confidence to stick up for myself. She totally ruined my self esteem and gave me reasons to be anxious and vindictive about female motivations.

The scars are still there, but I've since had great friendships, relationships, and partnerships with women of all kinds. For a long time I only saw that nasty cunt in every girl I knew, whether I realized it or not, but after a certain point I realized that the women currently in my life do far more for my current happiness than her memory currently does for my unhappiness.

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>>17289166
>but I've since had great friendships, relationships, and partnerships with women of all kinds
fuck you

>> No.17289322

>>17280971
You’re a fucking loser, chud

>> No.17289389

>>17280989
Soap yourself silly troll

>> No.17289504

>>17288814
>narrow experience

The majority of posters are referring specifically to their public school teachers, so duh.

You shouldn't assume that is their only experience. You talk with tunnel vision.

>> No.17289535

>>17289322
Supply and demand is ruining your only source of income --naked pictures

And each day you become less appealing to look at

>> No.17289634

>>17287725
nice larp

>> No.17289839

a lot of people here seem to have a problem with female teachers. looking back at my childhood, though i was abused verbally my male teachers, it was a female teacher who slammed a book on my head. fuck women.

>> No.17289922

>>17289504
I didn't say it was their only experience, but I certainly think that many men let negative encounters or even negative long term relationships effect their views. I don't see that being an ideal worldview.

>> No.17289969

>>17289634
Psh, try saying something more useful, nerd

>> No.17289984

>>17289922
Men are far too driven by booba and poopa, anon. We know women are traps and we continue the trend regardless. Stating the truth about women has virtually zero impact on our behavior.

>> No.17289990

>>17289922
>fire hot
>maybe next time it wont be hot

>> No.17289996

>>17289922
not an argument

>> No.17290119

>>17288814
>A submissive (non-negative) woman and a kind, gentle male in a relationship is the ideal
You’re the one that comes off as naive and inexperienced. As a man, you simply cannot be kind and gentle in a relationship. Not all the time.

>> No.17290127

>>17281643
I understand your pain anon, not even in primary school (many nice female teachers there), but in high school there is always some really bitchy female teachers.

What stopped me from being effected by them was openly reacting against them. You should know, if someone does something bad to you, you have the right to react.

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>>17290127
I did a few times and it felt great. One of them used to bully one of my good friends for being short, and would quite literally say that his opinion wasn't important because he was a white male, I shit you not. Eventually he snapped after one too many shit takes, berated her for being emotionally instable and incompetent, and then she simply burst into tears and ran from the classroom, was a sight to behold. High schools are full of insane cunts like this.

>> No.17290222

>>17289922
True. You should still kill yourself though, whore.

>> No.17290241

>>17289922
>only way to cope with this thread is being condescending

Please read the OP post

>> No.17290277

>>17290218
Holy fucking based

>> No.17290352

An education system filled with women is an absolute disaster. play fighting, competition and movement are all punished. sitting still for 6 hours and mindlessly regurgitating information is all you need.

something I've realised is that the types of interactions male and females have and how they affect the opposite sex is whats key.

Male interaction is upsetting for females. this is true in both childhood and adulthood. Its competitive, its rough and its active.

Female interaction doesn't upset males, it just bores them to death. its safe, its friendly and its overly compassionate.

however its socially acceptable to bore people. but its not socially acceptable to upset people. the end result is that males have to suppress about 90% of themselves when there are females present. whether its in school, work or social groups this happens. while females have free reign to be their boring selves

>> No.17290652

>>17287832
Thank you anon. I don't really "seek out" female hate threads, it's just that anons' reminiscing about their pasts brought back some memories. At any rate, your advice is heeded.

>> No.17290845

>>17282178

read the op and tell me that is not an embarrassing take on women. like something a 13 year old would say

>> No.17290860

>>17290845
I have read the op and some of other Jung's works. Not only it's not embarrassing, on the contrary I find it very insightful. What do you find embarrassing in particular?

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>>17281049
>who hurt you

>> No.17291719

>>17284594
LMAO, what the fuck?

>> No.17291754

>>17281365
Lmao, what a pussy.

>> No.17291765

>>17281567
Holy shit, this brings backs the memories.

>> No.17291796

>>17283725
Based Florence.

>> No.17291811

>>17280971
would you prefer a pink painted fake world that then would make you frustrated at the first attempt of overcomming an isue and failure?

>> No.17291861

>>17281835
Incel types who think woman want chad are represed homosexuals.

>> No.17291873

>>17284876
There had to be feasible conditions on earth for such trait to pass over. We'd butterfly effect into wholy different humanity.

>> No.17291906

>>17291861
Outright lie. Kill yourself.

>> No.17291945

>>17290241
Not condescending you're just acting like a woman

>> No.17291963

>>17289984
>>17289990
>>17289996
>>17290222
Don't claim to act like a masculine man if you think it's allowed to let non-truths effect your emotions. That's literally what Jung was talking about in OP.

>> No.17292373

>>17291811
You have zero knowledge of human behavior
>>17291945
Stay seething roastie

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>>17292373
Not a girl bucko

>> No.17292482

>>17291811
But anon the world is exceptionally easy and the lying women had me convinced it was hard. You have a female mentality.

>> No.17292488

>>17292476
Well your fake angle is just a cope for your own shit life, bucko

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>>17292488

>> No.17292771

>>17292476
That's right, you'll never be a woman

>> No.17292953

>>17292771
You all act more like woman than trannies do. Pretty emotional.

>> No.17293606

>>17280971
Once I my greatest teachers was a female teaching third grade in her 70s. Incredible woman taught us far beyond the approved curriculum.
Worst teacher I ever had was a female teaching 4th grade. She was fat and getting a divorce and targeted me specifically because I already knew everything she was teaching

>> No.17293811

>>17281862

> Hypergamy and civilization are incompatible

You realize that throughout history most men didn't even manage to reproduce? They're totally compatible. Marriage is a social technology which keeps it from spinning completely out of control, but women fucking their way up has always been a thing. Especially if they can get away with cuckolding. And in turn this does benefit the overall genetic fitness of the subsequent generation.