/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.17279517]

I have never read a philosophy book that didn't seem like it was written by an annoying pseud.

[Anonymous No.17279520]

>I have never read a philosophy book
Of coure. You're a woman.

[Anonymous No.17279526]

>>17279517
Johanna was just coping because she knew her work would be forgotten and show would be remembered only through her son.

[Anonymous No.17279527]

>>17279517
KEK triggered.

[Anonymous No.17279536]

>>17279526
*she would be remembered only through her son.

[Anonymous No.17279543]

>>17279517
Imagine being a woman kek. Must be a shame that you can't into philosophy

[Anonymous No.17279547]

>>17279517
Based tough love mom.

[Anonymous No.17279553]

>>17279517
total KO. schopenhauer completely BTFO’d.

[Anonymous No.17279554]

>>17279520
>>17279526
>>17279527
>>17279536
>>17279543

[Anonymous No.17279559]

Kierkegaard is comfy if you have a soul.

[Anonymous No.17279568]

>>17279517
Didn't Plato say that misanthropy comes from betrayal from others, especially early in life? For what is the individual to know other?

Seems pretty accurate.

[Anonymous No.17279576]

>>17279520
>>17279526
>>17279527
>>17279536
>>17279543

[Anonymous No.17279580]

>>17279554
>>17279576
YWNBAW

[Anonymous No.17279582]

>>17279568
Desu there is academic literature explaining Schopenhauer's misogyny through his mom's bitchiness. She was so awful his dad literally committed suicide.

[Anonymous No.17279618]

>>17279517
Women get triggered by people who challenge the status quo because their inferior brains are 99% of the time wired to protect the existing power structure for the sake of social dynamics.
The only thing that gets a woman to change her mind is a show of force/dominance.

Basically psychologically all women are whores because they spread their psychological legs for whoever is providing them with stability/comfort.

All women are whores=women are sellouts with no integrity and its genetically hard wired into them unless you get a 1 in a million woman like that mongolian khan's daughter who wrestled men.

[Anonymous No.17279631]

>>17279618
keyed

[Anonymous No.17279648]

>>17279554
You in the pic?

[Anonymous No.17279675]

>>17279582
I wasn't sure exactly how bad she was, but either way Plato's point is right in this case of Schopenhauer. As it turns out, his mother was so bad it negatively effected his social relations and feelings about humanity for the rest of his life.

[Anonymous No.17279688]

>>17279675
Well said.

[Anonymous No.17279698]

>>17279517
Her mom sounds like my ex lmao

[Anonymous No.17279731]

>>17279618
surprisingly good post. anyone have that lolita copypasta about all women being slaves

[Anonymous No.17279733]

>>17279517
Little Schopie was only 19 when she wrote this letter (I crunched the numbers). His mom was a stone cold bitch.

[Anonymous No.17279751]

>>17279618
holy based

[Anonymous No.17279799]

why would you hate women? It's like hating trees or the ocean

[Anonymous No.17279802]

>>17279799
I don't hate women, anon.

[Anonymous No.17279813]

>>17279526
This.

[Anonymous No.17279827]

>>17279520
Based. Women can't read.

[Anonymous No.17279836]

>>17279517
I have never read a 4chan post hating on philosophy that didn't seem like it was written by an annoying pseud.

[Anonymous No.17279843]

>>17279517
Imagine saying this to your 6 year old son.

[Anonymous No.17279845]

>>17279836
based

[Anonymous No.17279848]

>>17279576
I dont get it. Is that gif supposed to be a jew? With the nose and weird looking eyes. Do you not like jews or do you just pick out the first meme that shows up in the Google results?

[Anonymous No.17280448]

>>17279618
This is 10x better read in Joker's voice.
5/5

[Anonymous No.17280453]

>>17279576
>>17279554
only bunkercuck trannies use these images
t. not evne a polak

[Anonymous No.17280521]

>>17279520
>>17279618
This, literally every exceptional person or thinker in history ignored women and hecklers to get where they did.

You get nothing by playing by the rules other people try to set for you, especially as a man. This is basic wisdom anyone over the age of 15 has. Kys deadend grub.

[Anonymous No.17281041]

>>17279799
because i will never lose my virginity and that makes me sad

[Anonymous No.17281047]

>>17280521
wow she's actually pretty cute

[Anonymous No.17281071]

>>17281041
It is not that great, anon. Just saying. And no, I haven't had to pay.

[Anonymous No.17281079]

>>17279799
I had a terrible mother and was abused by women during childhood, including female teachers, so I can't trust them. They also generally exhibit loathsome and hateworthy behavior. They are typically petty, bitchy, narcissistic, cunning, hypocritical, cowardly, entitled, and stupid.
>It's like hating trees or the ocean
That's an insult to trees and the ocean.

[Anonymous No.17281082]

>>17281071
It is a bit disappointing if you consider all the fuss people do about it. Like when it happened, I thought: "Is that it?"

[Anonymous No.17281089]

>>17281079
Not all women are like that, anon.

[Anonymous No.17281102]

>>17281082
And don't get me wrong, it does feel good. But I dunno, I think it is mostly about hormones.

[Anonymous No.17281124]

>>17279517

I have read philosophy from the 1600s to 1800s
I'm trying to read Plato now
Are there dialogues where the person "interviewed" is intelligent and not ridiculed by Socrates? So far everything Ive read is Socrates "owning" people, sometimes with falacious arguments

[Anonymous No.17281130]

>>17281124
KEK I'm not exactly sure, but he does provide some explanation in the Republic. But that is not how you are supposed to read Philosophy, anon. Just read and understand it, search for 'holes' after you finish it.

[Anonymous No.17281131]

>>17279517
Women are so irrationally proud that they would rather psychologically destroy their own children than accept they are wrong.

[Anonymous No.17281133]

>>17281130
A highlight on that "some," because it is mostly what you said.

[Anonymous No.17281140]

>>17281124
In the dialogue "Parmenides" the philosopher Parmenides shows the flaws in the young Socrates' thinking. It's also probably Plato's hardest dialogue.

[Anonymous No.17281146]

>>17281089
Most of them are. The only ones that aren't are ugly ones, but they'd be the same if they were able to get away with it. Women are just fucking trash compared to men. It's the oldest of elephants in the room.

[Anonymous No.17281249]

>>17281146
If men weren't trash too they wouldn't allow this too happen. These things have happened because men have forgotten God and started thinking with their dicks. In other words, in lack of an objective authority of morality, the only authority becomes the dick, and the dick tells men they should listen what Eve says and take the forbidden fruit.
>"and Adam was not deceived, but the woman was deceived and became a transgressor."
1 Timothy 2:14

[Anonymous No.17281290]

>>17281146
>>17281249
They develop this as they age. But most use their "power" for egotistical purposes. The best you can do is what >>17281249 said, 'outgun' (as in get educated and perceptive) them. And don't think with the wrong head.

[Anonymous No.17281296]

>>17281290 I'm the quoted anon
But some are really cool. I had a bunch of cool friends that were beautiful.

[Anonymous No.17281310]

>>17279517
i am glad this bitch was wrong

[Anonymous No.17281326]

>>17281296
There's good women out there, but all of them have this one virtue: they're humble and know their place as followers. Proud women who want to lead and rebel against authority are destructive creatures.

[Anonymous No.17281390]

I hate women!

[Anonymous No.17281411]

>>17281326
No, some are ok. I had a friend who took "control of stuff" without being a bitch about it. But in the end most are people, they have their own faults.

[Anonymous No.17281419]

>>17280521
She looks so much better like this

[Anonymous No.17281448]

>>17279688
Thank you anon, also check em. Nice Hitler dubs.

[I hate women No.17281475]

>>17279520
Schway

[Anonymous No.17281729]

>>17279520
FPBP
/thread

[Anonymous No.17281846]

>>17279618
Are you being ironic or are you a high level sociopathic incel?
>>17280521
Do you know John Stuart Mill?

[Anonymous No.17281892]

>>17279517
this statement tells us considerably more about OP than it tells us about philosophy books

[Anonymous No.17281913]

>>17281448
>1448
Shame true Hitler 1488 dubs didn't happen ITT and further bless it

>>17281846
Shut up, STUPID woman.

[Anonymous No.17281934]

>>17279517
Its true though, all philosophy books are written by pseuds that bring absolutely ZERO value to modern thought.
Tell me, what was Cioran achieved besides trap you men into the shadowy tentacles of Nihilism?

[Anonymous No.17281944]

>>17279517
Try it.

[Anonymous No.17281948]

>>17279517
That letter could not be a bigger reflection of truth, Schopenhauer got obsessed with knowledge because he felt insecure and inadequate. It was a chip in his armor. Women are born to detect such things and to be repelled by suck weakness.

It was inevitable that this would happen.

[Anonymous No.17281962]

>>17281948
It doesn't matter though. Schopenhauer is a world renown philosopher who inspired countless artists, poets, and composers. No one gives a single fuck about his mother. Insecurity and a sense of inadequacy can be exactly the right ingredient to birth greatness in certain individuals, the desire to prove others wrong in your abilities.

[Anonymous No.17281977]

>>17281962
It DOES matter though. It doesn't matter to you cause you are not a woman having to select a suitable mate based on biological wiring you cannot control. And, which have been crafted through time to intuitively spot weaknesses in men that makes them unsuitable candidates for long term survival.


So why the fuck would you hate women? If you were one, then you'd be acting the same way

[Anonymous No.17282022]

>>17279517
Poor fucking Arthur... I mean she probably had her points, but he was 19 in 1807, can you imagine being a teenage version of Schopenhauer?

[Anonymous No.17282037]

>>17282022
He made a harsh critic on his mother stuff, anon. That is probably why she wrote that letter.

[Anonymous No.17282048]

brutal. he sounds like an insufferable twat of the highest order.

[Anonymous No.17282071]

>>17281977
No it doesn't matter. Schopenhauer obviously felt that he had something to prove, or to give to the world, and that he was equipped with the intellect to do so, so why would he give a shit if he came off as boorish and rude to women, that he wasn't able to cater to their needs or (shock horror) to the needs of his idiot mothor? Beethoven was the same. Why would you care what some banal roastie thinks about you if you can write a symphony while deaf?

[Anonymous No.17282076]

>>17282037
He was a fucking 19 years old. The woman was a cunt.

[Anonymous No.17282080]

>>17282076
It was her job, anon. She probably used that to raise him. She has a point to be mad about it.

[Anonymous No.17282083]

>>17282071
>Why would you care what some banal roastie thinks about you if you can write a symphony while deaf?
It is a silly question, because they did care. Why? Because no matter how many contributions you give to this world, there's no single man on Earth that does not want the approval of women, there is of course, those that delude themselves in thinking they are above this or immune to it. But it is just a cope.
Much like an emo that wants to kill themselves cannot help but move away when a car comes speeding down and threatens to run him over.

Such is the power of nature

[Anonymous No.17282085]

>>17282080
Yeah, that's why his father killed himself. She was so pleasant that he could no longer bear it.

[Anonymous No.17282091]

>>17282085
I mean, I don't know if she was cool. But he was a bit of a jerk with her, not sure if it was "justified."

[Anonymous No.17282094]

>>17282085
He was a weak man

[Anonymous No.17282101]

>>17282094
And what are you, conglomerating with outcasts and freaks?

[Anonymous No.17282110]

>>17282083
You don't understand. Their legacy renders meaningless whether they desired the approval of women. Of course they desired the approval of women, being men, I'm not disputing that. What I'm saying is that it obviously doesn't mean shit in light of what that desire gave to the world, indirectly in the form of their creative work. I can tell you're probably a woman because you can't think beyond the basic social dimension of "that they channeled their feelings fruitfully into enduring works of human thought and spirit doesn't matter; that they failed with women renders it all meaningless". People read Arthur Schopenhauer today, not Johanna Schopenhauer, so I really couldn't give a fat shit what Johanna felt or thought.

[Anonymous No.17282119]

>>17282101
I'm unironically trying to fix this shit.

[Anonymous No.17282126]

>>17282119
Anon, I hate to break it to you.
You are here forever.

[Anonymous No.17282133]

>>17282101
Well, I grew up as an outcast and freak so this place still feels like home despite now knowing, and being able to do better in the normie scene
>>17282110
I am actually a guy, so you seem unable to really tell much. Ironically, you suffer from that which you judge me of, an inability to see past beyond basic social dimensions (of men) to consider both sides.

[Anonymous No.17282137]

>>17282126
No, I can leave it, anon. This place is boring. If I get back to college I doubt I will get back to here.

[Anonymous No.17282143]

>>17282133
I can see the woman's side, I'm just saying the woman's side is silly and irrelevant when you take the bigger picture into account.

[Anonymous No.17282149]

>>17282137
I'm here mainly because I can have some fun trying to mess with anons.

[Anonymous No.17282174]

You're right. Philosophy should be called stupidity. It gets way too in the weeds of semantics, meanings and being and could have been really great and even helpful but no, its dominated by idiots

[Anonymous No.17282214]

>>17282174
This, thousand year worth of Philosophy can be completed discarded and dismissed by doing something as simple as getting a job, exercising physically or socializing

[Anonymous No.17282298]

>>17282214
>>17282174
KEK anons, Philosophy is involved in a thing called Ethics. Which is supposed to be a thing in every profession.

[Anonymous No.17282306]

>>17280521
Holy shit she is way much prettier

[Anonymous No.17282316]

>>17282306
Oh it is that girl. I dunno, she had a mocking smile that was kinda cute.

[Anonymous No.17282324]

>>17282306
But she uses too much makeup, you probably can't even recognize her without it. That might be the reason for it too, considering that people buy her fucking bath water. KEK

[Anonymous No.17282325]

>>17282298
>He thinks Philosophers define Ethics
Let me see if I can abstract this enough to explain.
Philosophy is nothing but a rack. It brushes in the darkness, in copes to couple up leaves together into a pile, so that when the light is switched on, one might see them clearly.
But the leaves exist irregardless of philosophy.


Make sense? You don't need to know philosophy to engage in ethics.

[Anonymous No.17282338]

>>17282325
Dunno, anon. Have you actually bothered reading a Philosophy book? Doesn't seem like it. Laws are a thing too. Maybe you should read a book called the case of the espeluncean explorers and see if you can find any Philosophy in it. It is a quite interesting read even if you are not into Law related things.

[Anonymous No.17282369]

>>17279799
There is an instinct making you look for them, even when you know it's terrible. Society is set up so you have to pretend to take women seriously (though that's just an effect of the above instincts).
>inb4 hurr hate the instinct, not the women
No, both. If only because women manipulate men through those instincts.

[Anonymous No.17282378]

>>17282369
We found a coooooool guy, everyone

[Anonymous No.17282394]

>>17282378
He is right, you need to go back.
>>17282369
Have you tried meditation? It makes you more aware of and in control of your instincts. That's why buddhists with their obsession of desire place so much importance on it.

[Anonymous No.17282421]

>>17282369
>>17282394

Some women are reasonable, anons. I miss a friend from college sometimes. But I'm so crazy that I couldn't help but think that she was trying to do something with me. And it ended up that she was just being cool to me.

[Anonymous No.17282435]

>>17280521
>ywn bride-kidnap bell dolphin

[Anonymous No.17282451]

>>17279843
he's not 6, that's the date

[Anonymous No.17282459]

>>17282451
He was 19 but it's still awful. Imagine having a mom like that, oh god

[Anonymous No.17282460]

>>17279517
why do redditors need to take every image and turn it into a gay wojak meemee

[Anonymous No.17282701]

>>17279554
>>17279576
Lol someone just triggered reddit.

[Anonymous No.17282758]

>>17282459
>Imagine having a based mom like that
Fix't it for you, you s o y f a g g o t.

[Anonymous No.17282767]

>>17280453
>only bunkercuck trannies use these images
>t. not evne a polak

[Anonymous No.17282777]

>>17279517
>be gone, THOT
his roastie mom was unable to comprehend his genius
big surprise, I know

[Can intentionality be accounte(...) No.17282838]

>>17282777
what the fuck is up with all the 13 yo posting lately

[Anonymous No.17282850]

>>17279517
>schopenhauer
>super-clever
Like mother like son

[Anonymous No.17282911]

>>17281948
Read "On Women" without knowing who wrote it and you'd realize he's telling the truth. You're not necessarily wrong, but resentment sometimes fuels the best literature.

>chip in his armor

The phrase you're looking for is either chip on his shoulder or chink in the armor.

[Anonymous No.17282920]

>>17281934
Cioran isn't an edgy pessimist. He liberates men from ideology and megalomania more than any anyone since the cynics and skeptics.

[Anonymous No.17282930]

>>17282459
At 19 most people were old enough to be take on the role of proper men. I think she was genuinely upset that he was a brilliant mind but such an intolerable person. Tough love, so to speak

[Anonymous No.17282985]

>>17281977
You simply don't understand. We will take the woman's position to be, in this instance, that "a man ought to meet the proper standards of social decorum; that is, he ought to be friendly, polite, have a degree of charm with women, in short, be perfectly benign and ordinary and therefore capable of catering to a womans needs. Well, Schopenhauer evidently wasn't ordinary. There is a supreme clarity and yet a certain kind of intellectual ferocity and passion that permeates through his writings, quotes out the ass in this language and that, untranslated of course (because fuck the plebs) a remarkable ability to condense down and crystalize difficult to comprehend ideas in such a way as to make them perfectly comprehensible (the hallmark of a great intellect), a searing contempt for charlatanism and obscurantism, all of which could not have come from such a well tempered and ordinary man as Johanna wanted him to be, the soft docile mommy worshipper than never puts a foot out of line, that never attempts to do what mommy does BEST. Yet without that irascible nature there would never have been a Wagner, a Proust, a Mahler, A Tolstoy. In fact it's that very nature, so repulsive to women, that male willingess to be a social ghoul and upset people, that is indirectly responsible for the very best that the human race has accomplished: the symphonies of Beethoven, Calculus, the transcendental aesthetic, and so on and so on, all produced by social goblins, all produced by a woman's failure, all produced by who, were they born today, would be labelled incels. So I can tell you now that the woman's perspective was absolutely and unequivocally WRONG in this instance, and that in fact Johanna was really nothing more than the archetypal wrathful mother who wants nothing less than for her son to succeed. Now if Schopenhauer hadn't been so talented, and was deluding himself, then Johanna would have been in the right, naturally, but he wasn't, so she was wrong. Really, a woman want's nothing less than for a man to succeed in spite of them. The old saying "behind every successful man is a woman rolling her eyes", it's completely true. Irrefutable. If ever you find yourself having incurred the wrath of a woman, count it a victory.

[Anonymous No.17283052]

>>17282985
Holy fucking based. Have a rare Schop

[Anonymous No.17283058]

>>17279526
and yet, her words are remembered as we see in this thread and nobody knows what Schopen wrote beyond cope about Hegel

[Anonymous No.17283070]

>>17283058
NOOO The Charlatan

[Anonymous No.17283087]

>>17283058
>nobody knows what Schopen wrote beyond cope about Hegel
You're the dumbest nigger on this board

[Anonymous No.17283093]

>>17279520
fpbp

[Anonymous No.17283123]

The Based Scho was aganist normalfag and normalfag roast*es. The only worthwhile people are the ones who separate themselves from masses. His essay "On Women" was a critique and not a conclusion. Schopenhauer was one the greatest radical feminist in the history of philosophy.
This is what Schopenhauer said about anti-normalfag women :

“I have not yet spoken my last word about women. I believe that if a woman succeeds in withdrawing from the mass, or rather raising herself from above the mass, she grows ceaselessly and more than a man.”

FUCK NORMIES
FUCK NORMIE FEMO*DS

[Anonymous No.17283179]

>>17279526
>>17280521
>>17279618
And yet Schoppenhauer's classes were empty where Hegel's were full.
He might have been a great thinker but he was a bad teacher where Hegel was a great one in both. It would have benefited him greatly to follow his mother's advice and temper his character.
Being a good teacher and surrounding yourself with intelligent students is key for the development of your thought, and its no surprise to me that Schoppenhauer fell into the bitter pessimistic strain of thought that he did.
being a decently palpable person would most likely have improved his academic success and through that improved his thinking as well, but its no surprise to me either that incels on 4chan have trouble realizing that.

[Anonymous No.17283194]

>>17283179
I bet you feel really righteous right now

[Anonymous No.17283481]

>>17279517
I read a book by Charles Taylor the other day. Really enjoyed the overall tone as it felt like listening to a well prepared course (which I love). I suppose it helps that he is a professor at McGill.

[Anonymous No.17283600]

>>17279554
>>17279576
The worst thing is these kind of do look like me and it's extremely hurtful

[Anonymous No.17283606]

>>17282985
Based, brother

[Anonymous No.17283655]

>>17282048
You sound like you're on HRT

[Anonymous No.17283665]

>>17279554
>>17279576
why are you assuming those guys are leftists?

[Anonymous No.17283672]

>>17282094
Oh, everything to absolve the woman, fucking simp

[Anonymous No.17283673]

>>17283179
>but its no surprise to me either that incels on 4chan have trouble realizing that.

[Anonymous No.17283680]

>>17282214
Why are Americans allowed to exist?

[Anonymous No.17284379]

>>17282777
my own trips and I haven't noticed them
until now
>checked

[Anonymous No.17284400]

>>17279520
/thread

[Anonymous No.17284700]

>>17282985
Your post was too based, i had to save it.

[Anonymous No.17284753]

>>17279554
>>17279576
In his defense while Schopenhauer WAS a totally insufferable pessimistic faggot, for a mother to talk that way to her own child would be so damaging as to complicate the problem irrecoverably--which, as we see with Schopenhauer, is exactly what happened.

[Anonymous No.17284943]

>>17282076
He was a teenager then? Someone change the graphic to make him look like a zoomer